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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 60035161 United States 09/04/2014 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You aren't insinuating that WHO (UN) would cover up the facts are you? They've always been so straight forward and honest before! They obviously would never lie to us, they only want what's best for us. (I couldn't even type that with a straight face.) Quoting: Epic Beard Guy (sarcasm off) LOL. Yea it's not like they would ever claim the doctors were over stating the problem |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41920447 United States 09/04/2014 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I try to read everything that I see regarding this Ebola outbreak. Seems to me that CDC and WHO are not on the same page. Both are spinning info and facts. I believe it is out of conrol and will result in massive deaths in Western Africa then- move outward - across the oceans eventually. We may deal with it more effectively in the US, but who wants to gamble on that? So many reasons to close our borders and shut down air travel at this point in time. I know the stop of air travel is a drastic measure. It should be done. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62227372 United States 09/04/2014 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as the US goes one concern I have is college students returning from Africa for the start of the new school year here. I hope the Universities put together some policies quickly to insure the safety of students. I personally don't believe anyone who has traveled to those countries should be allowed in the schools till they have completed at least the 21 days observation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60035161 ===============================================================------------------------------------------------------------- It was on the news yesterday that 5 students from the E-Bola stricken countries have started school at UWM Madison Wisconsin. That worries me cause my grandson is at that campus. The school plans to keep an eye on the African students simply by checking them for a fever! Are they NUTS!!!!? By the time they have a fever, the entire campus will have E-Bola! Remember this stuff is airborne! ==============================================================______________________________________________________________ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25033107 Canada 09/04/2014 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The hopes that Nigeria’s Ebola outbreak could be quickly stamped out have evaporated. .." Looks like Port Harcourt is fucked "The WHO report is grim: “During his 6 day period of hospitalization, he was attended by the majority of the hospital’s health care staff,” it says, and members of his church community visited and performed a healing ritual that apparently involved laying on of hands. “On 21 August, he was taken to an ultrasound clinic, where 2 physicians performed an abdominal scan. He died the next day.” It was not until 27 August that tests confirmed he was infected with Ebola." [link to news.sciencemag.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61593482 Canada 09/04/2014 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop fearmongering! I suggest anyone who is worried to do some homework and get the facts. The fact is a 1/4 million people at least will die of influenza this cold season and the CDC and WHO and the media are not freaking out about that. This is being blown out of proportion to push the coming vaccine on the populace, nothing more. Just like Swine flu and Avian flu was fear mongered to get everyone to accept the flu shot. Don't be dummies and fall for this shit lest you wish to die from more of their poisonous shots. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25033107 Canada 09/04/2014 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop fearmongering! I suggest anyone who is worried to do some homework and get the facts. The fact is a 1/4 million people at least will die of influenza this cold season and the CDC and WHO and the media are not freaking out about that. This is being blown out of proportion to push the coming vaccine on the populace, nothing more. Just like Swine flu and Avian flu was fear mongered to get everyone to accept the flu shot. Don't be dummies and fall for this shit lest you wish to die from more of their poisonous shots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61593482 You're the one who needs to do some research and get some facts, your opinion is positively ignorant. The flu has less than .1% mortality rate and kills the old immune compromised. Go back to school. |
Edgenation User ID: 57140267 Canada 09/04/2014 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New numbers just got posted on wiki [link to en.m.wikipedia.org] 3685 cases and 1844 deaths as of Aug 31 |
Eleven-15 User ID: 62482027 United States 09/04/2014 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ===============================================================------------------------------------------------------------- Quoting: Anonymous Coward It was on the news yesterday that 5 students from the E-Bola stricken countries have started school at UWM Madison Wisconsin. That worries me cause my grandson is at that campus. The school plans to keep an eye on the African students simply by checking them for a fever! Are they NUTS!!!!? By the time they have a fever, the entire campus will have E-Bola! Remember this stuff is airborne! ==============================================================______________________________________________________________ Yes, meanwhile those 5 students are allowed to run around the campus and the community touching, coughing, and sneezing on anything and everything they come into contact with. FUCKEN AMAZING They should have quarantined them. FUCK their feelings and political correctness. Better safe then sorry. The logic here is astounding. Anyone who has read GLP for any period of time has acquired good knowledge mixed in with the 99% noise. The trick is learning to filter out the noise. Quote from Anonymous Coward (AC) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59707277 United States 09/04/2014 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did he just say that the dead guy in the wheelchair has been dead in the middle of the street for two days on one of the busiest streets in the city? And it's been raining the whole time??? Holy crap. The dead body probably infected dozens of dogs and cats drinking puddle water, and possibly dozens if not hundreds of people walking past him. Scary times. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 60035161 United States 09/04/2014 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop fearmongering! I suggest anyone who is worried to do some homework and get the facts. The fact is a 1/4 million people at least will die of influenza this cold season and the CDC and WHO and the media are not freaking out about that. This is being blown out of proportion to push the coming vaccine on the populace, nothing more. Just like Swine flu and Avian flu was fear mongered to get everyone to accept the flu shot. Don't be dummies and fall for this shit lest you wish to die from more of their poisonous shots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61593482 I never attempt to fear-monger. There are real concerns here. I have looked at the facts and my concerns are based on facts. Even using the WHO numbers that they admit are probably only 1/4 of what the true numbers are anyone can see that the outbreak has gotten worse not better. They do not have a handle on it and won't for at least some time to come. You say the WHO is not freaking out, but they have and are concerned. You don't pull your workers from a lab out of an area that is testing possible cases unless you are truly concerned. The who and the CDC did not take enough action in the beginning and when it became obvious they didn't have the outbreak under control they tried to contradict the Doctors on the ground. Once it was obvious how far the outbreak was spreading they finally started changing there tone. Admitting that it was worse than they had previously stated. They have still tried to downplay what has been going on but have gradually started admitting to the scale of the event. They now admit this outbreak will continue for several months at least. Yes there are other things like the flu that have high numbers, but most people have developed some immunity to it. Therefore the majority of those who are infected will not die. In the case of Ebola there is very little immunity in the general population. If it continues to spread it will not be like getting the flu. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62526955 United States 09/04/2014 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whatever happens, happens. The west can't and won't be able to stop Ebola. One of Africa's problems is the lack of infrastructure and the attitude of some people. The only thing that can be done is containment. The west can't build them a healthcare infrastructure when it can barely afford them and manage the ones they have. I watched a news report from Africa and people are scared, so scared they're asking for other countries to take them in. If they west gives in to accepting Ebola refugees, it's gonna be a catastrophe. Gotta watch out for an African diaspora. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 60035161 United States 09/04/2014 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't want anyone to be afraid. Fear only makes matters worse. I do hope people keep an eye on this. I am however curious is there a point in which you would become concerned? For me as long as the rate is not dropping I will remain concerned about where this might be heading. When we see a steady drop in the rate we will know that they are getting a handle on this. Till that time there is a risk and the longer it goes the risk to other countries increases. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1443815 Canada 09/04/2014 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop fearmongering! I suggest anyone who is worried to do some homework and get the facts. The fact is a 1/4 million people at least will die of influenza this cold season and the CDC and WHO and the media are not freaking out about that. This is being blown out of proportion to push the coming vaccine on the populace, nothing more. Just like Swine flu and Avian flu was fear mongered to get everyone to accept the flu shot. Don't be dummies and fall for this shit lest you wish to die from more of their poisonous shots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61593482 You're the one who needs to do some research and get some facts, your opinion is positively ignorant. The flu has less than .1% mortality rate and kills the old immune compromised. Go back to school. Ok you go ahead and loose sleep over it then. It is not an opion i have done a shit ton of homework and have talked at lenght with my son who is a virologist but surely you know more than him. No he does not specialize in killer viruses but I going to bet ha knows a fuck load more than you. It is a serious virus but as of now the infections are in Africa. None are hear so until you hear that it is sweeping through your country you really shouldn't be too worried, but by all means chicken little run around in a panic if you like calling people idiots because they are not scared like you. Pansy. |
Abi ~ User ID: 54732924 United States 09/04/2014 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as the US goes one concern I have is college students returning from Africa for the start of the new school year here. I hope the Universities put together some policies quickly to insure the safety of students. I personally don't believe anyone who has traveled to those countries should be allowed in the schools till they have completed at least the 21 days observation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60035161 That is a concern..as well as all the churches that do their mission trips during the summer..some of them around here just got back from Africa in late August.. You accept the love you think you deserve~~~ Love cannot live where there is no trust~~~ Truth has no temperature~~~ Love like it's never gonna hurt~~~ Have no regrets~~~ |
Apocalypse Troll Trollicus Apocalyptus User ID: 55215269 United States 09/04/2014 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greed! Causing innocent blood to flow Entire culture, lost in the overthrow They came to seize and take whatever they please Then all they gave back was death and disease My people were left with no choice but to decide To conform to a system, responsible for genocide Responsible for genocide Responsible for genocide AIDS is killing the entire African nation And a vaccine is still supposedly under preparation But these governments, they don't mind their procrastination They say, "We'll kill them off, take their land and go there for vacation." - Rage Against the Machine, "Darkness" "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible." [link to www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57660705 United States 09/04/2014 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sad truth is those numbers given are really more about PR then the truth. No country or organization could possibly confirm all the boddies literally lying in ditches/streets/water sourcers or even begin to understan the true scope of animal spreading via the eating of decomposing people just lying around all over the continent of Africa. Its a public downplay to reduce fear equating to chaos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39480951 United States 09/04/2014 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been going since December 2013: Quoting: SarahC [link to www.nytimes.com] A 2 year old boy picked it up from bushmeat. That's 9 months, and we can fit a curve to 9 months of data: 2048 cases is 11 months in, but we've got there in 9 months! 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16384, 32768, 65536, 131072, 262144, 524288, 1048576, 2097152, 4194304, 8388608, 16777216, 33554432, 67108864, 134217728, 268435456, 536870912, 1073741824, 2147483648, 4294967296, 8589934592 : Everyone infected. We're AHEAD of the curve. ahead of the curve does not surprise me, TPTB want to see us dead |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49288543 Canada 09/04/2014 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop fearmongering! I suggest anyone who is worried to do some homework and get the facts. The fact is a 1/4 million people at least will die of influenza this cold season and the CDC and WHO and the media are not freaking out about that. This is being blown out of proportion to push the coming vaccine on the populace, nothing more. Just like Swine flu and Avian flu was fear mongered to get everyone to accept the flu shot. Don't be dummies and fall for this shit lest you wish to die from more of their poisonous shots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61593482 You're the one who needs to do some research and get some facts, your opinion is positively ignorant. The flu has less than .1% mortality rate and kills the old immune compromised. Go back to school. Ok you go ahead and loose sleep over it then. It is not an opion i have done a shit ton of homework and have talked at lenght with my son who is a virologist but surely you know more than him. No he does not specialize in killer viruses but I going to bet ha knows a fuck load more than you. It is a serious virus but as of now the infections are in Africa. None are hear so until you hear that it is sweeping through your country you really shouldn't be too worried, but by all means chicken little run around in a panic if you like calling people idiots because they are not scared like you. Pansy. Actually, more than likely I do. Tell him to look at it again, he is obviously not paying attention if he is not concerned. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 60035161 United States 09/04/2014 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop fearmongering! I suggest anyone who is worried to do some homework and get the facts. The fact is a 1/4 million people at least will die of influenza this cold season and the CDC and WHO and the media are not freaking out about that. This is being blown out of proportion to push the coming vaccine on the populace, nothing more. Just like Swine flu and Avian flu was fear mongered to get everyone to accept the flu shot. Don't be dummies and fall for this shit lest you wish to die from more of their poisonous shots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61593482 You're the one who needs to do some research and get some facts, your opinion is positively ignorant. The flu has less than .1% mortality rate and kills the old immune compromised. Go back to school. Ok you go ahead and loose sleep over it then. It is not an opion i have done a shit ton of homework and have talked at lenght with my son who is a virologist but surely you know more than him. No he does not specialize in killer viruses but I going to bet ha knows a fuck load more than you. It is a serious virus but as of now the infections are in Africa. None are hear so until you hear that it is sweeping through your country you really shouldn't be too worried, but by all means chicken little run around in a panic if you like calling people idiots because they are not scared like you. Pansy. Resorting to name calling not needed. You can make your point without attacking others. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35274703 United States 09/04/2014 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop fearmongering! I suggest anyone who is worried to do some homework and get the facts. The fact is a 1/4 million people at least will die of influenza this cold season and the CDC and WHO and the media are not freaking out about that. This is being blown out of proportion to push the coming vaccine on the populace, nothing more. Just like Swine flu and Avian flu was fear mongered to get everyone to accept the flu shot. Don't be dummies and fall for this shit lest you wish to die from more of their poisonous shots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61593482 You're the one who needs to do some research and get some facts, your opinion is positively ignorant. The flu has less than .1% mortality rate and kills the old immune compromised. Go back to school. Ok you go ahead and loose sleep over it then. It is not an opion i have done a shit ton of homework and have talked at lenght with my son who is a virologist but surely you know more than him. No he does not specialize in killer viruses but I going to bet ha knows a fuck load more than you. It is a serious virus but as of now the infections are in Africa. None are hear so until you hear that it is sweeping through your country you really shouldn't be too worried, but by all means chicken little run around in a panic if you like calling people idiots because they are not scared like you. Pansy. No disrespect to you or your son but. This outbreak is characteristic of a global threat. 1. Is sustaining to a small geographic area for a long time. 2. Is showing very slow, nonlinear growth. 3. Reservoired in multiple species. 4. Past practices in containment are much less effective. This bug is not burning out. In the past, minor measures against an outbreak were enough to insure quick burn out. This ain't the same. Slow confined exponential growth assures that once critmass is achieved you will see it spread like fire in a dry hay field. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49288543 Canada 09/04/2014 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The facts of the outbreak are alarming. It is perhaps the most alarming outbreak in the modern era. All of the people who know enough to be concerned, are concerned. Anyone who is not concerned is either not paying attention, or they do not have sufficient background to understand what is actually going on. (Or they refuse to believe any of the information and think it's just a big media stunt, in which case there is no point in even discussing anything with you) |
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Botany girl User ID: 44353767 United States 09/04/2014 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop fearmongering! I suggest anyone who is worried to do some homework and get the facts. The fact is a 1/4 million people at least will die of influenza this cold season and the CDC and WHO and the media are not freaking out about that. This is being blown out of proportion to push the coming vaccine on the populace, nothing more. Just like Swine flu and Avian flu was fear mongered to get everyone to accept the flu shot. Don't be dummies and fall for this shit lest you wish to die from more of their poisonous shots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61593482 You really need to research the difference between flu season and ebola. Ebola has a much higher kill rate than the flu- the flu infects many more people and they survive. Nobody is talking about lining up for a vaccine here- they are talking about the numbers rapidly increasing and this thing is out of control. Ebola is deadly and somehow it has mutated at an alarming rate. |