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Revealing The Two Witnesses In Scripture; Contrary To Opposing Versions.

 
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Learning scripture is fine...but telling people they have

to know this is contrary to our teaching.

Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and His work and all is

forgiven is the main point.

He is the Savior within our lives and we are saved through

His sacrifice.

Really, what does it matter what people know about what

will be revealed? And whatever makes you think you're correct

might surprise when it isn't.

Why not wait 'patiently' for all to be revealed and let us

enjoy our lives and what it is presently.



Just a though....






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Another main point don't forget to repent in all the process you mentioned.


Just a thought...
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When you start your theory with "the bible is wrong" -- your theory is flawed.
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The Bible isn't wrong my friend, just some of its interpretations by flawed men. Try to keep-up with what is being pertinent in these post.
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ThankX guys.. (But) simple 4 questions -- 1 -- Will they show up (Together) in the flesh as 2 people in sackcloth? 2 -- Where will they show up at? 3 -- Will they be seen on TV - CNN..Fox news .. Aljazeera ect ? 4 -- Are any of you one of these two? This is a simple (Yes-no or where set of questions) All U gotta do is answer it without a whole page of explaining stuff that nobody understands.. Just -yes-no or where.. Thank you guys.. PeaCe!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72201589


(1.) They will show up together, in the flesh. Their headquarters will be in a wilderness place. For they are the symbolic two wings in (Rev.12:14KJV.) Where they nourish the woman (believers,) for Three and one half yrs. As two people. not in sackcloth as an outer covering, but a spiritual garment.

(2.)They will show up at the same place the believers are gathered together for the end days, called a wilderness place (Rev.12:14KJV.) There will be their headquarters. Nevertheless, they (the two witnesses) shall move about throughout the World especially in Jerusalem as often as they will during their ministry.

(3.) They will be seen on all the broadcasts around the World often. But not as good figures but evil characters against their believed savior the (anti-Christ and false prophet, and his cohorts.) For those two will be hated by the world. For those two shall speak against its system and the lust of its attractions. They will be the servant of God ministering to the millions of God's children to strengthen them in the Lord and doing great works in the midst of the children of the Most-High.

(4.) In the past I was not allowed to say. Now the Lord has allowed it. For the time draws near and those who believe me shall receive a blessing, and those who will not believe what I say, shall not receive a blessing.


Yes, I am one of those two, and this commission was not of my choosing. For I sought not out any place and never knew of any call on my life. Until the Lord came to me when I turned thirty and informed me of my calling. He declared to me saying many things and showed me different promises for my life that I didn't understand much of its meaning. One of many things he said was:

You shall stand in the midst of
Congregation and sing praises unto me
from your lips.
Your heart shall sing a new song.
I Am the Bow and you are the Arrow.
And I shall shoot you forth, and
you shall go to the hearts of many people,
for My Glory.

Although the Lord told me many things and revealed hidden meanings. I didn't know/understand what he was telling me. Not until twenty years later on my 50th birthday. God sent someone to inform me of my calling. I refused to believe what I was hearing. and denied that such a thing could be, he soon left.

I began to read the scriptures. not to prove he was correct, but that he was wrong in his prophecy about me. Although I had been a diligent reader of the Word for several decades. Even to the point of memorizing several books of the Bible and memorizing nearly a thousand verses of scripture.

I had never seen its meaning until that day. It was like reading a blueprint of the one who had drawn-up the design.

I began to read my Bible that afternoon and after what seemed like a few minutes, I was distracted by a light coming through my window. Going to the window I discovered it was the next morning sun rising.

I was surprised at the thought that hours had passed, put was so engrossed in the Word I took my seat and continued to read.

Suddenly I heard a noise outside. I went to the window and realized again to my surprise that it was my trash being taken away by the garbage men the next morning. Then I thought to myself, I haven't slept for a long time. Although I wasn't tired I went and laid down. As I had felt I had slept a good eight hours. Yet, it had only been about two hours later I was awaken and began to read again.

Later toward that evening I went to my refrigerate to get me something to eat and drink. Then a question was ask of me was I hungry or thirsty. I thought to myself I was not hungry or thirsty though I hadn't ate or drank anything for two days at least. Then I thought this was a total fast orchestrated by the Lord.

To make a long story short I remained seated in that chair reading scripture day and night for seven days. In a total fast, only sleeping a few hrs. during that seven day period. Usually waking up speaking in tongues, or falling asleep speaking in them. After seven days of discovering a whole new meaning in God's Word.

And shown my calling and my place from birth to death in scripture, I was dismayed. He reminded me of the places in scripture, he had included me in to see in my time of his calling for me. Asking me if I remembered one of the places he included me. I had remembered and had never forgotten.

When I was as small as a child I remember the Lord coming to me going through my chest and filling me with His incredible love. As this burst of this Love hit me, I remember lifting my head with all the strength I could muster and from my Mother breast, which was covered in a blue dress, I looked into her face. Although I couldn't have been more than a few weeks old. I remember these words in English though I knew no language at that age. I thought at the time this is love and thought it came from my mother. But after receiving Jesus as my savior years later and feeling this same feeling I felt that day I then knew it was the love of God.

I said within myself and even today after 71 yrs I can still hear my thoughts say the words, "I Must Remember This." The Lord reminded me of the reason he included this verse and many other as my life was unfolded before me in scripture; to show me of the unfolding of my life from birth to death. Thus, the meaning of:

(Psalms.22:9KJV) But thou art he that took me out of the womb; thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breast.

I was embarrassed to be who was, I was lacking all I should be. And feared I was the least qualified person to ever be called into such a position. I have always had such compassion for men/women who deserve much better than I have/had or deserved. Far better men and women than I could ever hope to be. Even the least of all mankind deserved better than I had already received at that point.

After seven days I was still not hungry or thirsty. I didn't know if the Lord wanted me to continue or not. Then I received a phone call after seven days. Someone asking to take me to dinner that afternoon. The Lord told me to go.

I went, ate a full meal with several courses, a desert and a large drink with no side effect from lack of food or drink for seven days. Now that is the kind of fast I like. No hunger, no thirst for as long as the fast last. And then eat all you want at the end of the fast with no worry of side effect from eating all you want.

I have fasted before for three days at a time as of a partial fast, no food, but water, on my own initiative and thought I would die. The Lord's way of doing it is so much better.

I can only tell you what the Lord has shown to me. These two servants will not be representing kings or priest during their 42 mos, ministry. They will simply be ambassadors to Christ representing the Kingdom of the Most High God, The King of the Universe.

They will be servants to God's children, serving in every catalogue for the glory of their God and Father on high. If anyone tries to teach any other way they are confused or seek to glorify two individuals who seek no glory. Who only dread the task ahead of them. For God shall expect much from them whom He has trusted to do that which they so will in those days.

I know my claim may seem as foolish as all the other who call themselves one of the witnesses. Not only on this website but throughout the world. The only difference from them and me is I hope they are right and I am wrong. Because the Lord knows how I lack in myself to be able to serve him in such a great capacity.
 Quoting: S-wordlike




Cmon guys I’ve claimed to be one of the two witnesses since 2012.... this guy has finally come out as the other witness this is a historic time.... wow... you guys get to witness this... amazing
 Quoting: waterman


Waterman, I told you I would not send you anymore replies. Yet, this one last time.

Thank you for pinning this. It was a complete surprise.

Yes you have been asking me to reveal this truth for 21 years. Yet the Lord told me now i could.

As far as any recognition of my proclamation, it is meant to be.

For their eyes are blinded from the truth. And they hear what they want. Their hearts are far from the Lord and it saddens me to see it.

I never realize until this point. The contention there is within the body of Christ. They fight among themselves as a feud of rabid animals. Clawing and yelling and accusing their brethren in a manner that sends fear into my heart for them.

I will leave my own thread and never again respond/reply to it again. I will not be a part of anything such as this. That brings out such anger and hatred among God's children/family.

Good-bye and God bless.
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ThankX guys.. (But) simple 4 questions -- 1 -- Will they show up (Together) in the flesh as 2 people in sackcloth? 2 -- Where will they show up at? 3 -- Will they be seen on TV - CNN..Fox news .. Aljazeera ect ? 4 -- Are any of you one of these two? This is a simple (Yes-no or where set of questions) All U gotta do is answer it without a whole page of explaining stuff that nobody understands.. Just -yes-no or where.. Thank you guys.. PeaCe!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72201589


(1.) They will show up together, in the flesh. Their headquarters will be in a wilderness place. For they are the symbolic two wings in (Rev.12:14KJV.) Where they nourish the woman (believers,) for Three and one half yrs. As two people. not in sackcloth as an outer covering, but a spiritual garment.

(2.)They will show up at the same place the believers are gathered together for the end days, called a wilderness place (Rev.12:14KJV.) There will be their headquarters. Nevertheless, they (the two witnesses) shall move about throughout the World especially in Jerusalem as often as they will during their ministry.

(3.) They will be seen on all the broadcasts around the World often. But not as good figures but evil characters against their believed savior the (anti-Christ and false prophet, and his cohorts.) For those two will be hated by the world. For those two shall speak against its system and the lust of its attractions. They will be the servant of God ministering to the millions of God's children to strengthen them in the Lord and doing great works in the midst of the children of the Most-High.

(4.) In the past I was not allowed to say. Now the Lord has allowed it. For the time draws near and those who believe me shall receive a blessing, and those who will not believe what I say, shall not receive a blessing.


Yes, I am one of those two, and this commission was not of my choosing. For I sought not out any place and never knew of any call on my life. Until the Lord came to me when I turned thirty and informed me of my calling. He declared to me saying many things and showed me different promises for my life that I didn't understand much of its meaning. One of many things he said was:

You shall stand in the midst of
Congregation and sing praises unto me
from your lips.
Your heart shall sing a new song.
I Am the Bow and you are the Arrow.
And I shall shoot you forth, and
you shall go to the hearts of many people,
for My Glory.

Although the Lord told me many things and revealed hidden meanings. I didn't know/understand what he was telling me. Not until twenty years later on my 50th birthday. God sent someone to inform me of my calling. I refused to believe what I was hearing. and denied that such a thing could be, he soon left.

I began to read the scriptures. not to prove he was correct, but that he was wrong in his prophecy about me. Although I had been a diligent reader of the Word for several decades. Even to the point of memorizing several books of the Bible and memorizing nearly a thousand verses of scripture.

I had never seen its meaning until that day. It was like reading a blueprint of the one who had drawn-up the design.

I began to read my Bible that afternoon and after what seemed like a few minutes, I was distracted by a light coming through my window. Going to the window I discovered it was the next morning sun rising.

I was surprised at the thought that hours had passed, put was so engrossed in the Word I took my seat and continued to read.

Suddenly I heard a noise outside. I went to the window and realized again to my surprise that it was my trash being taken away by the garbage men the next morning. Then I thought to myself, I haven't slept for a long time. Although I wasn't tired I went and laid down. As I had felt I had slept a good eight hours. Yet, it had only been about two hours later I was awaken and began to read again.

Later toward that evening I went to my refrigerate to get me something to eat and drink. Then a question was ask of me was I hungry or thirsty. I thought to myself I was not hungry or thirsty though I hadn't ate or drank anything for two days at least. Then I thought this was a total fast orchestrated by the Lord.

To make a long story short I remained seated in that chair reading scripture day and night for seven days. In a total fast, only sleeping a few hrs. during that seven day period. Usually waking up speaking in tongues, or falling asleep speaking in them. After seven days of discovering a whole new meaning in God's Word.

And shown my calling and my place from birth to death in scripture, I was dismayed. He reminded me of the places in scripture, he had included me in to see in my time of his calling for me. Asking me if I remembered one of the places he included me. I had remembered and had never forgotten.

When I was as small as a child I remember the Lord coming to me going through my chest and filling me with His incredible love. As this burst of this Love hit me, I remember lifting my head with all the strength I could muster and from my Mother breast, which was covered in a blue dress, I looked into her face. Although I couldn't have been more than a few weeks old. I remember these words in English though I knew no language at that age. I thought at the time this is love and thought it came from my mother. But after receiving Jesus as my savior years later and feeling this same feeling I felt that day I then knew it was the love of God.

I said within myself and even today after 71 yrs I can still hear my thoughts say the words, "I Must Remember This." The Lord reminded me of the reason he included this verse and many other as my life was unfolded before me in scripture; to show me of the unfolding of my life from birth to death. Thus, the meaning of:

(Psalms.22:9KJV) But thou art he that took me out of the womb; thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breast.

I was embarrassed to be who was, I was lacking all I should be. And feared I was the least qualified person to ever be called into such a position. I have always had such compassion for men/women who deserve much better than I have/had or deserved. Far better men and women than I could ever hope to be. Even the least of all mankind deserved better than I had already received at that point.

After seven days I was still not hungry or thirsty. I didn't know if the Lord wanted me to continue or not. Then I received a phone call after seven days. Someone asking to take me to dinner that afternoon. The Lord told me to go.

I went, ate a full meal with several courses, a desert and a large drink with no side effect from lack of food or drink for seven days. Now that is the kind of fast I like. No hunger, no thirst for as long as the fast last. And then eat all you want at the end of the fast with no worry of side effect from eating all you want.

I have fasted before for three days at a time as of a partial fast, no food, but water, on my own initiative and thought I would die. The Lord's way of doing it is so much better.

I can only tell you what the Lord has shown to me. These two servants will not be representing kings or priest during their 42 mos, ministry. They will simply be ambassadors to Christ representing the Kingdom of the Most High God, The King of the Universe.

They will be servants to God's children, serving in every catalogue for the glory of their God and Father on high. If anyone tries to teach any other way they are confused or seek to glorify two individuals who seek no glory. Who only dread the task ahead of them. For God shall expect much from them whom He has trusted to do that which they so will in those days.

I know my claim may seem as foolish as all the other who call themselves one of the witnesses. Not only on this website but throughout the world. The only difference from them and me is I hope they are right and I am wrong. Because the Lord knows how I lack in myself to be able to serve him in such a great capacity.
 Quoting: S-wordlike




Cmon guys I’ve claimed to be one of the two witnesses since 2012.... this guy has finally come out as the other witness this is a historic time.... wow... you guys get to witness this... amazing
 Quoting: waterman


Waterman, I told you I would not send you anymore replies. Yet, this one last time.

Thank you for pinning this. It was a complete surprise.

Yes you have been asking me to reveal this truth for 21 years. Yet the Lord told me now i could.

As far as any recognition of my proclamation, it is meant to be.

For their eyes are blinded from the truth. And they hear what they want. Their hearts are far from the Lord and it saddens me to see it.

I never realize until this point. The contention there is within the body of Christ. They fight among themselves as a feud of rabid animals. Clawing and yelling and accusing their brethren in a manner that sends fear into my heart for them.

I will leave my own thread and never again respond/reply to it again. I will not be a part of anything such as this. That brings out such anger and hatred among God's children/family.

Good-bye and God bless.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


and false you remain to be, but God Almighty will punish you as He will all false so-called Christian pastors and impostors!

Be sure
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ThankX guys.. (But) simple 4 questions -- 1 -- Will they show up (Together) in the flesh as 2 people in sackcloth? 2 -- Where will they show up at? 3 -- Will they be seen on TV - CNN..Fox news .. Aljazeera ect ? 4 -- Are any of you one of these two? This is a simple (Yes-no or where set of questions) All U gotta do is answer it without a whole page of explaining stuff that nobody understands.. Just -yes-no or where.. Thank you guys.. PeaCe!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72201589


(1.) They will show up together, in the flesh. Their headquarters will be in a wilderness place. For they are the symbolic two wings in (Rev.12:14KJV.) Where they nourish the woman (believers,) for Three and one half yrs. As two people. not in sackcloth as an outer covering, but a spiritual garment.

(2.)They will show up at the same place the believers are gathered together for the end days, called a wilderness place (Rev.12:14KJV.) There will be their headquarters. Nevertheless, they (the two witnesses) shall move about throughout the World especially in Jerusalem as often as they will during their ministry.

(3.) They will be seen on all the broadcasts around the World often. But not as good figures but evil characters against their believed savior the (anti-Christ and false prophet, and his cohorts.) For those two will be hated by the world. For those two shall speak against its system and the lust of its attractions. They will be the servant of God ministering to the millions of God's children to strengthen them in the Lord and doing great works in the midst of the children of the Most-High.

(4.) In the past I was not allowed to say. Now the Lord has allowed it. For the time draws near and those who believe me shall receive a blessing, and those who will not believe what I say, shall not receive a blessing.


Yes, I am one of those two, and this commission was not of my choosing. For I sought not out any place and never knew of any call on my life. Until the Lord came to me when I turned thirty and informed me of my calling. He declared to me saying many things and showed me different promises for my life that I didn't understand much of its meaning. One of many things he said was:

You shall stand in the midst of
Congregation and sing praises unto me
from your lips.
Your heart shall sing a new song.
I Am the Bow and you are the Arrow.
And I shall shoot you forth, and
you shall go to the hearts of many people,
for My Glory.

Although the Lord told me many things and revealed hidden meanings. I didn't know/understand what he was telling me. Not until twenty years later on my 50th birthday. God sent someone to inform me of my calling. I refused to believe what I was hearing. and denied that such a thing could be, he soon left.

I began to read the scriptures. not to prove he was correct, but that he was wrong in his prophecy about me. Although I had been a diligent reader of the Word for several decades. Even to the point of memorizing several books of the Bible and memorizing nearly a thousand verses of scripture.

I had never seen its meaning until that day. It was like reading a blueprint of the one who had drawn-up the design.

I began to read my Bible that afternoon and after what seemed like a few minutes, I was distracted by a light coming through my window. Going to the window I discovered it was the next morning sun rising.

I was surprised at the thought that hours had passed, put was so engrossed in the Word I took my seat and continued to read.

Suddenly I heard a noise outside. I went to the window and realized again to my surprise that it was my trash being taken away by the garbage men the next morning. Then I thought to myself, I haven't slept for a long time. Although I wasn't tired I went and laid down. As I had felt I had slept a good eight hours. Yet, it had only been about two hours later I was awaken and began to read again.

Later toward that evening I went to my refrigerate to get me something to eat and drink. Then a question was ask of me was I hungry or thirsty. I thought to myself I was not hungry or thirsty though I hadn't ate or drank anything for two days at least. Then I thought this was a total fast orchestrated by the Lord.

To make a long story short I remained seated in that chair reading scripture day and night for seven days. In a total fast, only sleeping a few hrs. during that seven day period. Usually waking up speaking in tongues, or falling asleep speaking in them. After seven days of discovering a whole new meaning in God's Word.

And shown my calling and my place from birth to death in scripture, I was dismayed. He reminded me of the places in scripture, he had included me in to see in my time of his calling for me. Asking me if I remembered one of the places he included me. I had remembered and had never forgotten.

When I was as small as a child I remember the Lord coming to me going through my chest and filling me with His incredible love. As this burst of this Love hit me, I remember lifting my head with all the strength I could muster and from my Mother breast, which was covered in a blue dress, I looked into her face. Although I couldn't have been more than a few weeks old. I remember these words in English though I knew no language at that age. I thought at the time this is love and thought it came from my mother. But after receiving Jesus as my savior years later and feeling this same feeling I felt that day I then knew it was the love of God.

I said within myself and even today after 71 yrs I can still hear my thoughts say the words, "I Must Remember This." The Lord reminded me of the reason he included this verse and many other as my life was unfolded before me in scripture; to show me of the unfolding of my life from birth to death. Thus, the meaning of:

(Psalms.22:9KJV) But thou art he that took me out of the womb; thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breast.

I was embarrassed to be who was, I was lacking all I should be. And feared I was the least qualified person to ever be called into such a position. I have always had such compassion for men/women who deserve much better than I have/had or deserved. Far better men and women than I could ever hope to be. Even the least of all mankind deserved better than I had already received at that point.

After seven days I was still not hungry or thirsty. I didn't know if the Lord wanted me to continue or not. Then I received a phone call after seven days. Someone asking to take me to dinner that afternoon. The Lord told me to go.

I went, ate a full meal with several courses, a desert and a large drink with no side effect from lack of food or drink for seven days. Now that is the kind of fast I like. No hunger, no thirst for as long as the fast last. And then eat all you want at the end of the fast with no worry of side effect from eating all you want.

I have fasted before for three days at a time as of a partial fast, no food, but water, on my own initiative and thought I would die. The Lord's way of doing it is so much better.

I can only tell you what the Lord has shown to me. These two servants will not be representing kings or priest during their 42 mos, ministry. They will simply be ambassadors to Christ representing the Kingdom of the Most High God, The King of the Universe.

They will be servants to God's children, serving in every catalogue for the glory of their God and Father on high. If anyone tries to teach any other way they are confused or seek to glorify two individuals who seek no glory. Who only dread the task ahead of them. For God shall expect much from them whom He has trusted to do that which they so will in those days.

I know my claim may seem as foolish as all the other who call themselves one of the witnesses. Not only on this website but throughout the world. The only difference from them and me is I hope they are right and I am wrong. Because the Lord knows how I lack in myself to be able to serve him in such a great capacity.
 Quoting: S-wordlike




Cmon guys I’ve claimed to be one of the two witnesses since 2012.... this guy has finally come out as the other witness this is a historic time.... wow... you guys get to witness this... amazing
 Quoting: waterman


Waterman, I told you I would not send you anymore replies. Yet, this one last time.

Thank you for pinning this. It was a complete surprise.

Yes you have been asking me to reveal this truth for 21 years. Yet the Lord told me now i could.

As far as any recognition of my proclamation, it is meant to be.

For their eyes are blinded from the truth. And they hear what they want. Their hearts are far from the Lord and it saddens me to see it.

I never realize until this point. The contention there is within the body of Christ. They fight among themselves as a feud of rabid animals. Clawing and yelling and accusing their brethren in a manner that sends fear into my heart for them.

I will leave my own thread and never again respond/reply to it again. I will not be a part of anything such as this. That brings out such anger and hatred among God's children/family.

Good-bye and God bless.
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you will stand a fart's chance to survive as what you claim to be, for their fire is firm and true knowledge given to them by God from Scripture in order that they devour your lies in the most incredible ways.

You cannot play games with God Almighty without finally taking the brunt of His wrath.

Be sure
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(1.) They will show up together, in the flesh. Their headquarters will be in a wilderness place. For they are the symbolic two wings in (Rev.12:14KJV.) Where they nourish the woman (believers,) for Three and one half yrs. As two people. not in sackcloth as an outer covering, but a spiritual garment.

(2.)They will show up at the same place the believers are gathered together for the end days, called a wilderness place (Rev.12:14KJV.) There will be their headquarters. Nevertheless, they (the two witnesses) shall move about throughout the World especially in Jerusalem as often as they will during their ministry.

(3.) They will be seen on all the broadcasts around the World often. But not as good figures but evil characters against their believed savior the (anti-Christ and false prophet, and his cohorts.) For those two will be hated by the world. For those two shall speak against its system and the lust of its attractions. They will be the servant of God ministering to the millions of God's children to strengthen them in the Lord and doing great works in the midst of the children of the Most-High.

(4.) In the past I was not allowed to say. Now the Lord has allowed it. For the time draws near and those who believe me shall receive a blessing, and those who will not believe what I say, shall not receive a blessing.


Yes, I am one of those two, and this commission was not of my choosing. For I sought not out any place and never knew of any call on my life. Until the Lord came to me when I turned thirty and informed me of my calling. He declared to me saying many things and showed me different promises for my life that I didn't understand much of its meaning. One of many things he said was:

You shall stand in the midst of
Congregation and sing praises unto me
from your lips.
Your heart shall sing a new song.
I Am the Bow and you are the Arrow.
And I shall shoot you forth, and
you shall go to the hearts of many people,
for My Glory.

Although the Lord told me many things and revealed hidden meanings. I didn't know/understand what he was telling me. Not until twenty years later on my 50th birthday. God sent someone to inform me of my calling. I refused to believe what I was hearing. and denied that such a thing could be, he soon left.

I began to read the scriptures. not to prove he was correct, but that he was wrong in his prophecy about me. Although I had been a diligent reader of the Word for several decades. Even to the point of memorizing several books of the Bible and memorizing nearly a thousand verses of scripture.

I had never seen its meaning until that day. It was like reading a blueprint of the one who had drawn-up the design.

I began to read my Bible that afternoon and after what seemed like a few minutes, I was distracted by a light coming through my window. Going to the window I discovered it was the next morning sun rising.

I was surprised at the thought that hours had passed, put was so engrossed in the Word I took my seat and continued to read.

Suddenly I heard a noise outside. I went to the window and realized again to my surprise that it was my trash being taken away by the garbage men the next morning. Then I thought to myself, I haven't slept for a long time. Although I wasn't tired I went and laid down. As I had felt I had slept a good eight hours. Yet, it had only been about two hours later I was awaken and began to read again.

Later toward that evening I went to my refrigerate to get me something to eat and drink. Then a question was ask of me was I hungry or thirsty. I thought to myself I was not hungry or thirsty though I hadn't ate or drank anything for two days at least. Then I thought this was a total fast orchestrated by the Lord.

To make a long story short I remained seated in that chair reading scripture day and night for seven days. In a total fast, only sleeping a few hrs. during that seven day period. Usually waking up speaking in tongues, or falling asleep speaking in them. After seven days of discovering a whole new meaning in God's Word.

And shown my calling and my place from birth to death in scripture, I was dismayed. He reminded me of the places in scripture, he had included me in to see in my time of his calling for me. Asking me if I remembered one of the places he included me. I had remembered and had never forgotten.

When I was as small as a child I remember the Lord coming to me going through my chest and filling me with His incredible love. As this burst of this Love hit me, I remember lifting my head with all the strength I could muster and from my Mother breast, which was covered in a blue dress, I looked into her face. Although I couldn't have been more than a few weeks old. I remember these words in English though I knew no language at that age. I thought at the time this is love and thought it came from my mother. But after receiving Jesus as my savior years later and feeling this same feeling I felt that day I then knew it was the love of God.

I said within myself and even today after 71 yrs I can still hear my thoughts say the words, "I Must Remember This." The Lord reminded me of the reason he included this verse and many other as my life was unfolded before me in scripture; to show me of the unfolding of my life from birth to death. Thus, the meaning of:

(Psalms.22:9KJV) But thou art he that took me out of the womb; thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breast.

I was embarrassed to be who was, I was lacking all I should be. And feared I was the least qualified person to ever be called into such a position. I have always had such compassion for men/women who deserve much better than I have/had or deserved. Far better men and women than I could ever hope to be. Even the least of all mankind deserved better than I had already received at that point.

After seven days I was still not hungry or thirsty. I didn't know if the Lord wanted me to continue or not. Then I received a phone call after seven days. Someone asking to take me to dinner that afternoon. The Lord told me to go.

I went, ate a full meal with several courses, a desert and a large drink with no side effect from lack of food or drink for seven days. Now that is the kind of fast I like. No hunger, no thirst for as long as the fast last. And then eat all you want at the end of the fast with no worry of side effect from eating all you want.

I have fasted before for three days at a time as of a partial fast, no food, but water, on my own initiative and thought I would die. The Lord's way of doing it is so much better.

I can only tell you what the Lord has shown to me. These two servants will not be representing kings or priest during their 42 mos, ministry. They will simply be ambassadors to Christ representing the Kingdom of the Most High God, The King of the Universe.

They will be servants to God's children, serving in every catalogue for the glory of their God and Father on high. If anyone tries to teach any other way they are confused or seek to glorify two individuals who seek no glory. Who only dread the task ahead of them. For God shall expect much from them whom He has trusted to do that which they so will in those days.

I know my claim may seem as foolish as all the other who call themselves one of the witnesses. Not only on this website but throughout the world. The only difference from them and me is I hope they are right and I am wrong. Because the Lord knows how I lack in myself to be able to serve him in such a great capacity.
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Cmon guys I’ve claimed to be one of the two witnesses since 2012.... this guy has finally come out as the other witness this is a historic time.... wow... you guys get to witness this... amazing
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Waterman, I told you I would not send you anymore replies. Yet, this one last time.

Thank you for pinning this. It was a complete surprise.

Yes you have been asking me to reveal this truth for 21 years. Yet the Lord told me now i could.

As far as any recognition of my proclamation, it is meant to be.

For their eyes are blinded from the truth. And they hear what they want. Their hearts are far from the Lord and it saddens me to see it.

I never realize until this point. The contention there is within the body of Christ. They fight among themselves as a feud of rabid animals. Clawing and yelling and accusing their brethren in a manner that sends fear into my heart for them.

I will leave my own thread and never again respond/reply to it again. I will not be a part of anything such as this. That brings out such anger and hatred among God's children/family.

Good-bye and God bless.
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you will stand a fart's chance to survive as what you claim to be, for their fire is firm and true knowledge given to them by God from Scripture in order that they devour your lies in the most incredible ways.

You cannot play games with God Almighty without finally taking the brunt of His wrath.

Be sure
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Godlikeproduction seems to protect your lies by hindering true information coming forth.

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When you start with "the Bible is the Word of God" you are being misled and lack any true study of the issues.

Which Bible? Which translation?

KJV onlyism is utter nonsense. The Vulgate is just as wrong about the trinity as the KJV is - and it's 1200 year older.

Father God wrote the 10 Commandments with His own "finger".

The Holy Spirit didn't write anything.

John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

John 16:13 "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.

Scripture is inspired. Not handwritten by God Himself.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Further proof the Bible wasn't "divinely" written?

Apparent contradictions.
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Wow. You call yourself the Lords servant and you don't believe the bible is the word of God??? I wouldn't want to be you on Judgment Day.
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Instead of making "statements" - how about addressing the points I made above?

Nope.

Neither Jesus nor the Holy Spirit are equal to the Father.

The Father SENT Jesus.
The Father SENDS the Holy Spirit.

Tertullian, in the early 3rd century, was the first "church leader" who mentioned the "trinity", "though he noted that the majority of the believers in his day found issue with his doctrine"

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Look up the history of these verses...

Matthew 28:19
1 John 5:7
1 Timothy 3:16
Acts 17:29
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9

Those verses and many others have been tampered with since the original authors wrote their "books".

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Really? The one true church?

You mean like the "history / facts" of evolution that's rammed down school kids throats?

Here's some FACTS that you CAN NOT deny.
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The congregation set up by Paul in Rome became a church with a bishop, just like dozens of others around the Mediterranean.

And ALL so-called early "popes" were basically nothing more than bishops, with no true authority over Christendom.

Only through subsequent Edicts did the church in Rome start claiming authority over the next several centuries.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The Church gradually became a defining institution of the Roman Empire. Emperor Constantine issued the Edict of Milan in 313 proclaiming toleration for the Christian religion, and convoked the First Council of Nicaea in 325 whose Nicene Creed included belief in "one holy catholic and apostolic Church". Emperor Theodosius I made Nicene Christianity the state church of the Roman Empire with the Edict of Thessalonica of 380.

Through such "Edicts" Rome mixed pagan statues, beliefs etc...into the "church", turning the apostolic churches into a hiararchy / tradition-laden religion, just like Judaism had become.

The Waldensians LEFT the Rome area because of such.

God and His Son Jesus finally got fed up with the RCC, and initiated the Reformation, which led to each person reading the Bible and following Jesus and the Father, not human popes who tried to prevent those things.

My heart isn't hardened, against Catholic Believers. I refuse to "pay homage" to a group of church leaders who over centuries have burned Christian documents, killed multi-thousands, sold indulgences, tried to keep the Bible out of the common man's hands and protected hundreds of pedophiles.

It's easy to see what happened millenia ago.

First off, the word "catholic" was a generic term used to describe the churches that had been founded by the Apostles.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Theodosius I, Emperor from 379 to 395, declared "Catholic" Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire, declaring in the Edict of Thessalonica of 27 February 380

The Nicene Creed didn't exist until 380.

The congregation set up by Paul in Rome became a church with a bishop, just like dozens of others around the Mediterranean.

And ALL so-called early "popes" were basically nothing more than bishops, with no true authority over Christendom.

Only through subsequent Edicts did the church in Rome start claiming authority over the next several centuries.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The Church gradually became a defining institution of the Roman Empire. Emperor Constantine issued the Edict of Milan in 313 proclaiming toleration for the Christian religion, and convoked the First Council of Nicaea in 325 whose Nicene Creed included belief in "one holy catholic and apostolic Church". Emperor Theodosius I made Nicene Christianity the state church of the Roman Empire with the Edict of Thessalonica of 380.

Through such "Edicts" Rome mixed pagan statues, beliefs etc...into the "church", turning the apostolic churches into a hiararchy / tradition-laden religion, just like Judaism had become.

The RCC truly didn't start grasping hold of the Catholic Empire until 445, when the emperor Valentinian III decreed that all western bishops must obey the pope.

Notice that BOTH Theodosius AND Valentinian III were EMPERORS.

NOT popes. Rome mere "back-dated" their line of popes, all the way to Peter.


Finally, it's ironic that prior to Constantine's Edict of making Christianity "legal", Roman authorities spent the previous 290 years persecuting Christians.

Then, in 385 CE the first Christians, were beheaded for heresy in Trier/Germany the Spanish Priscillianus and six followers.

This began a centuries-long assualt on both pagans AND non-Catholics that lasted up until the 1700's.

Finally, the Bible wasn't "made" by the RCC. All they did was chose which manuscripts to consider as doctrine.

The manuscripts used to create the Bible existed 200+ years BEFORE Constantine legalized Christianity.

Roman leaders spent the entire 290+ years between Christ's death and Constantine's supposed vision in 312 AD persecuting and killing Christians.

They had NO control etc...of the network of Christian churches that had been in existence since the apostles had begun establishing them after Christ's ascension.

Rome merely assimilated them, beginning with the Council of Nicea.

And just because the RCC LISTS popes before then....

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

....does NOT mean they were actually true Roman Catholic popes. Funny how pretty much ALL the supposed popes PRIOR to the proclamation of the Edict of Milan in 313 were killed.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Killed by WHO?

Roman leaders.
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No, you've just made a long list of excuses as to why you rejected the one true Church, which as Christ said would survive even the gates of Hell.

So it cannot be changed. No matter what. Because GOD HIMSELF said so.

You're on a bad path man. Really bad. Heading toward rejection by Christ, because you rejected his Church.

Sorry. But truth is truth.
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Anyone who thinks that God and His Son will judge folks by what CHURCH they belong to is just plain STUPID.

The RCC changed the 10 Commandments. This is a FACT.

Neither Jesus nor the Holy Spirit are equal to the Father.

The Father SENT Jesus.
The Father SENDS the Holy Spirit.

Tertullian, in the early 3rd century, was the first "church leader" who mentioned the "trinity", "though he noted that the majority of the believers in his day found issue with his doctrine"

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Look up the history of these verses...

Matthew 28:19
1 John 5:7
1 Timothy 3:16
Acts 17:29
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9

Those verses and many others have been tampered with since the original authors wrote their "books".

Finally, God cannot die, yet Jesus did.
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I’ve already said I am Elijah there is no shyness about it... have you been paying attention..... helllllo
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bonghit
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It's Elijah and Enoch that simple two individuals that never died. But were taken. With out ever experiencing death. All those who have died are not the ones that are coming back. End of discussion.
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WHo says it can't be someone resurrected?

Lazarus died twice as a human.

This below seems simple too.
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Consider this pair.

Both Daniel and John have "sealed books", apparently for the "end times".

Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the
words, and seal the book, even to the
time of the end:
many shall run to and
fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

John - Revelation 10

9 And I went unto the angel, and said
unto him, Give me the little book. And
he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up;
and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it
shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
10 And I took the little book out of the
angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in
my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as
I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
11 And he said unto me, Thou must
prophesy again before many peoples, and
nations, and tongues, and kings.

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Who is the church?

Now that is an interesting question, and it's one that only God can answer.
For one, it's not the Catholic Church, although some who are catholic may be of that group.
You can call them, the church, the ecklesia, called out, people of the way or whatever you like.
You might think that you are a part of that group, you may believe you are a christian.
Paul demands that we examine ourselves, to see if we are "OF" Christ.
BUT only God the Father knows who are the true believers.
Only God knows because to be in that group takes more than you doing, confessing, or believing. God must "PLACE" you into Christ.
That is what the scriptures say, it is a spiritual event, and only God can draw you, choose you, or call you, and then place you into that body.

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Of course it's the Catholic Church. There is no other....Protestants have been led away from truth.

Since the Ascension and the Arrival of the Holy Ghost, MASS has been celebrated in the CHURCH, the CATHOLIC CHURCH.

You must have Faith and Works. Protestants have only FAITH.

You do not attend Mass.
You do not get the Eucharist.
You do not get Confession to have sins forgiven.

And yet, you claim entry into Heaven?
Oh no.
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Where does Jesus say that attendance to a specific "church" is a requirement for salvation?

He doesn't.

Where does Jesus say that attending "mass" is a requirement for salvation?

He doesn't.

Where does Jesus say to turn the "breaking of bread together" into a ritual to be performed in public?

He doesn't.

Where does Jesus say that you have to confess your sins to a priest to have them forgiven?

The Lord's Prayer of Matthew 6 and Luke 11 rebuke that notion.
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You can't just run around and make up your own rules as to how GOD must serve you.

You Serve GOD. He Set the rules.
He created the Church and the Sacraments.

You have to follow his rules, not rely on your own rules and your own "wisdom" and reject Catholics cause...well we don't like them.
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Jesus...nor Peter...established the RCC.

The RCC claims Peter as first pope by proxy...not by truth.

The point is that you and the RCC claiming the RCC as the one true church begins in history as self-declaration, not Christ declared.

The congregation set up by Paul in Rome became a church with a bishop, just like dozens of others around the Mediterranean.

They had NO control etc...of the network of Christian churches that had been in existence since the apostles had begun establishing them after Christ's ascension.

Rome merely assimilated them, beginning with the Council of Nicea.

Just because the RCC LISTS popes before then....

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

....does NOT mean they were actually true Roman Catholic popes. Funny how pretty much ALL the supposed popes PRIOR to the proclamation of the Edict of Milan in 313 were killed.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Killed by WHO?

Roman leaders.

And ALL so-called early "popes" were basically nothing more than bishops, with no true authority over Christendom.

Only through subsequent Edicts did the church in Rome start claiming authority over the next several centuries.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The Church gradually became a defining institution of the Roman Empire. Emperor Constantine issued the Edict of Milan in 313 proclaiming toleration for the Christian religion, and convoked the First Council of Nicaea in 325 whose Nicene Creed included belief in "one holy catholic and apostolic Church". Emperor Theodosius I made Nicene Christianity the state church of the Roman Empire with the Edict of Thessalonica of 380.

Through such "Edicts" Rome mixed pagan statues, beliefs etc...into the "church", turning the apostolic churches into a hiararchy / tradition-laden religion, just like Judaism had become.
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For their eyes are blinded from the truth. And they hear what they want. Their hearts are far from the Lord and it saddens me to see it.

I never realize until this point. The contention there is within the body of Christ. They fight among themselves as a feud of rabid animals. Clawing and yelling and accusing their brethren in a manner that sends fear into my heart for them.

I will leave my own thread and never again respond/reply to it again. I will not be a part of anything such as this. That brings out such anger and hatred among God's children/family.

Good-bye and God bless.
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I have no anger nor hatred for any Believer.

Yet the Bible tells us call out and refute false doctrines using scripture.

That can be difficult since the Catholic scribes changed certain verses to support things like the trinity.

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S-wordlike,

Why should God send just two witnesses instead of sending His true apostolic church as such?

-RML
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Because at that time the force of the true church will no longer be here. Yet, new converts shall come forth thereafter. Yet, Satan never attacks the forces of the strength of the church, but the remnant in their beginning state, with little strength is Satan's prey. I know that this is not always the most popular belief with everyone (the Rapture.)

Nevertheless, it seems that would be the only reason a weak body must be nourished and lifted up by the two wings of a great eagle at that time (Rev.12:14KJV.) The other reason I believe he sends his two witnesses is because he says in his Word that is the way he is going to do it. Who am I to contend with God.

If you have another idea on the subject matter. I always enjoy listening to your point of view.
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Thanks for your answer.

Where is that true apostolic church to which you must belong as one of God's foretold true witnesses?

Thanks in advance for your answer,
-RML
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Belonging to a church as an organization regardless of its title apostolic, Pentecostal, baptist, catholic, etc. Is of no assurance of ones calling or entitlement of eternal promises when spiritual matters are taken into consideration.

The only mandate of qualifying for such an order is ones belief, trust, hope and faith in Jesus Christ and the finished work he has already performed; in that persons life even before he had the knowledge to even ask.

What justifies it is God's determination as to who the foretold witnesses are. Not determined by the will of man alone, but the already dictates of God's decision as to whom he wills to be so, before the foundation of this world existed.

I hope this is at least somewhat the answer you sought, to the question you posted.
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The question was not about any such organization as you mention but about THE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH, a church you by necessity must be a member of when claiming to be one of God's foretold two witnesses.

The question is: Where is THE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH today, since all those organizations put together that you mention cannot be reckoned to THE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH.

Instead of evading the question give an honest answer!

Be sure
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Because at that time the force of the true church will no longer be here. Yet, new converts shall come forth thereafter. Yet, Satan never attacks the forces of the strength of the church, but the remnant in their beginning state, with little strength is Satan's prey. I know that this is not always the most popular belief with everyone (the Rapture.)

Nevertheless, it seems that would be the only reason a weak body must be nourished and lifted up by the two wings of a great eagle at that time (Rev.12:14KJV.) The other reason I believe he sends his two witnesses is because he says in his Word that is the way he is going to do it. Who am I to contend with God.

If you have another idea on the subject matter. I always enjoy listening to your point of view.
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Thanks for your answer.

Where is that true apostolic church to which you must belong as one of God's foretold true witnesses?

Thanks in advance for your answer,
-RML
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Belonging to a church as an organization regardless of its title apostolic, Pentecostal, baptist, catholic, etc. Is of no assurance of ones calling or entitlement of eternal promises when spiritual matters are taken into consideration.

The only mandate of qualifying for such an order is ones belief, trust, hope and faith in Jesus Christ and the finished work he has already performed; in that persons life even before he had the knowledge to even ask.

What justifies it is God's determination as to who the foretold witnesses are. Not determined by the will of man alone, but the already dictates of God's decision as to whom he wills to be so, before the foundation of this world existed.

I hope this is at least somewhat the answer you sought, to the question you posted.
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The question was not about any such organization as you mention but about THE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH, a church you by necessity must be a member of when claiming to be one of God's foretold two witnesses.

The question is: Where is THE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH today, since all those organizations put together that you mention cannot be reckoned to THE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH.

Instead of evading the question give an honest answer!

Be sure
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If any of those you mention be THE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH, then please reveal it!

Be sure
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Thanks for your answer.

Where is that true apostolic church to which you must belong as one of God's foretold true witnesses?

Thanks in advance for your answer,
-RML
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Belonging to a church as an organization regardless of its title apostolic, Pentecostal, baptist, catholic, etc. Is of no assurance of ones calling or entitlement of eternal promises when spiritual matters are taken into consideration.

The only mandate of qualifying for such an order is ones belief, trust, hope and faith in Jesus Christ and the finished work he has already performed; in that persons life even before he had the knowledge to even ask.

What justifies it is God's determination as to who the foretold witnesses are. Not determined by the will of man alone, but the already dictates of God's decision as to whom he wills to be so, before the foundation of this world existed.

I hope this is at least somewhat the answer you sought, to the question you posted.
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The question was not about any such organization as you mention but about THE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH, a church you by necessity must be a member of when claiming to be one of God's foretold two witnesses.

The question is: Where is THE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH today, since all those organizations put together that you mention cannot be reckoned to THE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH.

Instead of evading the question give an honest answer!

Be sure
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If any of those you mention be THE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH, then please reveal it!

Be sure
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THE APOSTOLIC CHURCH you by necessity must be a member of as a foretold witness must without doubt teach true apostolic teachings, for if the church does not do it you will also not do it, being instead a member of a false church.

The apostle thereforw warns in Col 2:8:

"Take heed lest there shall be any one that maketh spoil of you through his philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."

Be sure
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Being what you claim to be, you sure know what is written about the two staffs of God in Zech 11:7, the first one being Jesus Christ, the Beauty and the second one being Bands.

When Bands, the second staff was cut asunder by God according to Zech 11:14, He thereby broke THE BROTHERHOOD BETWEEN JUDAH AND ISRAEL. So God says.

That shows us that instead of uniting what is called Judah and Israel, as I find in your teaching, God divides them, even in the NT time when there is no longer any northern kingdom by the name Israel.

Are not your teaching therefore false?

Be sure
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Being what you claim to be, you sure know what is written about the two staffs of God in Zech 11:7, the first one being Jesus Christ, the Beauty and the second one being Bands.

When Bands, the second staff was cut asunder by God according to Zech 11:14, He thereby broke THE BROTHERHOOD BETWEEN JUDAH AND ISRAEL. So God says.

That shows us that instead of uniting what is called Judah and Israel, as I find in your teaching, God divides them, even in the NT time when there is no longer any northern kingdom by the name Israel.

Are not your teaching therefore false?

Be sure
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When God divides something it is to make the weaker one stronger whether it be the two kingdoms or the two anointed....in the reunification they will both be stronger


Two kingdoms:

:dividedkingdom:
:big israel:


Two anointed:

:adameveside1:
:firewitnesses:
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the first staff, namely Beauty, in Zech 11:10, as Zech 11:11-13 proves, it must clear that the second staff which is called Bands must be broken later in NT time, or rather about the midst of the NT time period as revealed by Hab 3:2, who mentions the "midst of the years" (namely the NT time).

The strange thing about the prophecy of Habakkuk is that his words speak of God going to REVIVE His works and make it KNOWN, so the question is WHY SHOULD THERE BE A NEED TO REVIVE, REVIVE WHAT, even IN WRATH, and make it KNOWN?

"O Lord, I have heard the report of thee, and am afraid: O Lord, revive thy work in the midst of the years; In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy."

What prophecies in NT compare well, in your opinion as one of the foretold two witnesses, with Habakkuk's prophecy?

And, since at that FORETOLD NT TIME the brotherhood between Judah and Israel is broken in spite of there being NO HISTORICAL EXISTENT ISRAEL beside Judah, WHAT ISRAEL'S BROTHERHOOD AND WHAT BROTHERHOOD WITH JUDAH, AND WHY, IS GOD going to break?

In this prophecy I cannot see any levitic and davidic kingdom, as you claim, so please explain by Holy Scripture where you find the basis of teaching such a doctrine!

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Being what you claim to be, you sure know what is written about the two staffs of God in Zech 11:7, the first one being Jesus Christ, the Beauty and the second one being Bands.

When Bands, the second staff was cut asunder by God according to Zech 11:14, He thereby broke THE BROTHERHOOD BETWEEN JUDAH AND ISRAEL. So God says.

That shows us that instead of uniting what is called Judah and Israel, as I find in your teaching, God divides them, even in the NT time when there is no longer any northern kingdom by the name Israel.

Are not your teaching therefore false?

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When God divides something it is to make the weaker one stronger whether it be the two kingdoms or the two anointed....in the reunification they will both be stronger


Two kingdoms:

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Two anointed:

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the first staff, namely Beauty, in Zech 11:10, as Zech 11:11-13 proves, it must clear that the second staff which is called Bands must be broken later in NT time, or rather about the midst of the NT time period as revealed by Hab 3:2, who mentions the "midst of the years" (namely the NT time).

The strange thing about the prophecy of Habakkuk is that his words speak of God going to REVIVE His works and make it KNOWN, so the question is WHY SHOULD THERE BE A NEED TO REVIVE, REVIVE WHAT, even IN WRATH, and make it KNOWN?

"O Lord, I have heard the report of thee, and am afraid: O Lord, revive thy work in the midst of the years; In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy."

What prophecies in NT compare well, in your opinion as one of the foretold two witnesses, with Habakkuk's prophecy?

And, since at that FORETOLD NT TIME the brotherhood between Judah and Israel is broken in spite of there being NO HISTORICAL EXISTENT ISRAEL beside Judah, WHAT ISRAEL'S BROTHERHOOD AND WHAT BROTHERHOOD WITH JUDAH, AND WHY, IS GOD going to break?

In this prophecy I cannot see any levitic and davidic kingdom, as you claim, so please explain by Holy Scripture where you find the basis of teaching such a doctrine!

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at finally experiencing the two witnesses here at GP, one with strange drawings and the other one with his strange reluctance to being what he does not want to be.

Now all of us not so well-read in Holy Scripture as they must be as God's whatever true two witnesses they are, have free access to them with all our problematic questions.

Since they are true witnesses I am sure they will not be annoyed by all the serious questions that we have and therefore will put to them in order to finally receive decent answers instead of receiving stupid answers from mediocre and even stupid would-bes apart of them.

Thank God, you people, for they are here now, at last! Let therefore our burdensome questions about Holy Scipture be put upon their shoulders, for they will as God's sent witnesses to us help us for sure.

Let these words solace all of you, for so am I who sent my difficult questions to them God's men, waiting happily for their God-proved answers.

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at finally experiencing the two witnesses here at GP, one with strange drawings and the other one with his strange reluctance to being what he does not want to be.

Now all of us not so well-read in Holy Scripture as they must be as God's whatever true two witnesses they are, have free access to them with all our problematic questions.

Since they are true witnesses I am sure they will not be annoyed by all the serious questions that we have and therefore will put to them in order to finally receive decent answers instead of receiving stupid answers from mediocre and even stupid would-bes apart of them.

Thank God, you people, for they are here now, at last! Let therefore our burdensome questions about Holy Scipture be put upon their shoulders, for they will as God's sent witnesses to us help us for sure.

Let these words solace all of you, for so am I who sent my difficult questions to them God's men, waiting happily for their God-proved answers.

Be sure

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ThankZ guys.. One simple question -- Are the 2 witnesses some sort of (in the flesh) secret return of the Jesus Christ? -- I mean.. There is (another) in the book of revelation (That must overcome) even as Jesus overcame.. Who is that? It is clear there is (another) because Jesus in Revelation is telling (Whoever this person is) that he must overcome - (even as he overcame) And whoever this person is will sit in the same throne..as Jesus..receive a (new name)
plus will rule with a (rod of iron) and many other things --- the whole works.. Is this person (the 2 witnesses ?) If not (2) who is that (one) ??????
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ThankZ guys.. One simple question -- Are the 2 witnesses some sort of (in the flesh) secret return of the Jesus Christ? -- I mean.. There is (another) in the book of revelation (That must overcome) even as Jesus overcame.. Who is that? It is clear there is (another) because Jesus in Revelation is telling (Whoever this person is) that he must overcome - (even as he overcame) And whoever this person is will sit in the same throne..as Jesus..receive a (new name)
plus will rule with a (rod of iron) and many other things --- the whole works.. Is this person (the 2 witnesses ?) If not (2) who is that (one) ??????
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The two witnesses divide the earthly offices of king and high priest ...Jesus is both heavenly King and High Priest so they are earthly representatives of Jesus’ heavenly Kingly and Priestly rulership

As far as overcomers there are many overcomers ...it would be pointless if only one person overcame....here is a link to promises to the overcomers:

[link to activechristianity.org (secure)]



...of course the bride are overcomers and will rule from heaven with Jesus during the millennium....the two witnesses are overcomers....the tribulation saints are overcomers....there are many overcomers.
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Waterman tries to circumvents the apposite reference to Hab 3 and Zech 11:14. Why?

Because they prove him to be totally false in his ignorance of what Holy Scripture does indeed say.

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No you are wrong... These verses do not talk about (Them or those) They talk about a (He) who must overcome even as Jesus overcame.. and this (he) is the very end time prophet that will come soon today .. read here
Rev
2:26 and he who is overcoming, and who is keeping unto the end my works, I will give to him authority over the nations,

2:27 and he shall rule them with a rod of iron -- as the vessels of the potter they shall be broken -- as I also have received from my Father;

This (Is not) about (a bunch) of saved people that receive this incredible position and they all rule with (rods) of iron.. otherwise it would of said (rods of iron) instead of (Rod) as in singular....(a rod) and as kings..This is about (one person).. There is (one) that is coming.. to fulfill this
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Waterman is (wrong) I would like to see S wordlike come back and post.. I will post reply
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No you are wrong... These verses do not talk about (Them or those) They talk about a (He) who must overcome even as Jesus overcame.. and this (he) is the very end time prophet that will come soon today .. read here
Rev
2:26 and he who is overcoming, and who is keeping unto the end my works, I will give to him authority over the nations,

2:27 and he shall rule them with a rod of iron -- as the vessels of the potter they shall be broken -- as I also have received from my Father;

This (Is not) about (a bunch) of saved people that receive this incredible position and they all rule with (rods) of iron.. otherwise it would of said (rods of iron) instead of (Rod) as in singular....(a rod) and as kings..This is about (one person).. There is (one) that is coming.. to fulfill this
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My response————————————————————————


To him who overcomes, I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.” Revelation 2:7.

The tree of life is symbolic of eternal life..........only one person is going to overcome and receive eternal life because it says “ him”?



“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death.” Revelation 2:11......only one person isn’t going to be hurt by the second death because it says “ He”?




That would a pretty pathetic crowd if only one person overcame....people are going to be tortured beaten and beheaded and only one person overcomes? Jesus’ bride won’t overcome either? See how silly that sounds?

Thanks,,.. You have a point.... But can you answer this.. How can everyone rule the Nations with a rod of iron ? That verse says (He) will rule.. Is Heaven to be (everybody) ruling each other with rods of iron? That sounds like we have now..everybody ruling making laws and crap like we have now... I understand about (him)will eat from tree of life.. (it sounds like it means (Him) equals everybody) But (really) look at the verses.. It sounds like a secret message ..or the message is only to (one person) and does not apply to anyone else,, (But) God had it written in Revelation as a (private but public) released message.. I see those verses as a secret message to (one man) There (is no way) that (all) will rule the Nations.. But I do see that this (one man) will eat from the tree of life.. Go figure.. It is (just) the way it is written.. It just makes you think it means everybody but it is really a personal (made public) letter to the end time prophet guy.. Go figure again
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Waterman is (wrong) I would like to see S wordlike come back and post.. I will post reply
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Waterman is blind to the fact that the book of Revelation with its seals and trumpets and woes clearly show us who respect what Holy Scripture indeed says, that hab 3:2 and Zech 11:14 reveals a mighty messenger who will come after the time of Jesus, i.e. in what is called "the midst of years" (not the end of our earth), and he comes before any foretold true two witnesses can step forward.

That is why that second staff, Bands, is the one, who also is called the MAN CHILD in the prophecies of Holy Scripture. I can easily prove what I say, so Waterman ought, instead of being cocksure, take himself down quite a few pegs in his false claims to being the final and true answer to what is foretold in Holy Scripture.

Waterman claims to be one of God's foretold to come true two witnesses but he still is blind to the prophetic fact that those foretold true two witnesses are callled TWO RAYS (not many), not on their own but instead in HIS HAND, namely in God's own hand when He reveals Himself as BANDS on eart to bind and destroy antichristian falsehood on earth. That is the reason why God through His second staff, the man child, cut asunder the brotherhood between Israel and Judah, i.e. between the fallen away Christian churches, that are called Israel, and Judah that are all those who God has promised to revive back to His true apostolic faith.

All this is totally unknown to that impostor Waterman, so therefore he does not see that God is going to judge his false claim as well as S-wordlike's false claim in this heavenly war.

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ASV Habakkuk 3:4 And his brightness was as the light; He had rays coming forth from his hand; And there was the hiding of his power. (Hab. 3:4 ASV)
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Thank you for the compliment, and I am a He.

To discern the over-comer in (Rev.2:26KJV) as an individual is correct. And to understand that this is talking about a singular rather than more than one is something revealed to you beyond what man teaches.

This same man (the over-comer) is throughout the scripture's and revealed as one and the same person throughout God's Word. God greatly loves him and speaks much about him in (Isa.41-52KJV) and most of the book of Job. If read with God's discernment, and many other places in scripture.

He is the Shiloh to come (Gen.49:10KJV) (Isa.49.5-13KJV) and has the strength of the unicorn; (horn) power (Deut.33:17KJV) upon his head (mind/soul,) to discern and understand God's Word. For he knew even the heart can be deceitful above all things. He is given understanding and judges correctly without physical attributes (Isa.11:1-4KJV.)

He is the commander, leader and witness, to the people (Isa.55:4KJV.) And the parables of Enoch
calls him the Chosen One, Hidden One, Elect One, the Righteous One, and the Son of Man. And it declares no one shall know or see him until his time is revealed (Enoch.19:3.) (2 Esdras.13:52KJV) Even so can no man upon the earth see my son or those that be with him but in the daytime, (when the light shines upon him, for he is hidden in the shadow.)

If the book of Enoch (Ethiopian version) is read discernibly the "Lord of Spirits" is the Father. The Name of the Lord of Spirits: and in his name, and the "Head of days" is the Son (Jesus.) And (God the Father and the Son Jesus) is always referred in the pronoun as Him, His, He in capital letters throughout the book.

While the small lettering pronouns him, his, he is referring to that one who over-comes. This man is not Jesus. And that Elect One shall pour forth all the secrets and counsel. Not b/c as God (Jesus) already knew all these things ..no b/c the Lord of Spirits taught him (the Elect One) all the secrets and counsel (Enoch.51:3).

So this man is not God (of the trinity) and hasn't His (God's) ability to process the higher attributes of God. He had to be taught all the secrets.

If this passage would have been speaking of the second Godhead of the trinity. He would have known all these things beforehand. They were given and revealed to him (Elect One, Chosen One, Son of Man, Hidden One b/c God taught him all these things and all secrets.

So in the end these things and all secrets shall begin to manifest themselves. Then shall that man be justified in his words alone and truths and new transformations still begin to unveil itself. For one purpose and only one purpose, but great benefit for all. And that purpose will be for the glory of our God. That all men/women might not perish before their time.

This book of Enoch shows the past, present, at that time and the future when he (Enoch) again is brought back to earth by the Lord and a few angels, in the last days, for the end times. And God speaks saying see if you can, and by your horns (power of understanding, discernment,) if you can recognize understand who this Elect One is for the latter days (Enoch.62:1-3.) For these are those days now, just before the end days, and just after the last days are over. Thus we are in those latter days.

Too many revealings about the latter and end days revealing in these many passages of the book of Enoch. This is why evil men have no desire that you understand its meaning. For even in that they distort what you need to know of this book of Enoch and his other works as well.

Even as he (Enoch) in those end days as Judge shall decide the separation of the two portion goat and sheep (Enoch.62:4-9,) as he sits next to the King.

In (Enoch.62:9.) He does all this in the word of the name of the Lord of Spirits (Jesus' name) and Righteous judgement of (the Lord of Spirits) God the Father. And that Elect One shall judge the nations and destroy the wicked ones who blasphemed and mocked the Lord of Glory, and spoke evil against his name, and his servants.

For know ye not it is mankind (the Elect One,) over-comer, who shall judge men and angels. They appeal to the King/Lord (Matt.25:37-KJV,) but the Judge determines their outcome for he himself overcame even as his Lord.

Notice when it states when the Son of Man comes with the holy angels. he sits upon the throne of his glory (Mat.25:31KJV.) Now he comes as a judge. Notice this Son of Man comes with the holy angels.

Now if this Son of man were representing Jesus the Son of God. It would have said the Son of Man came With His holy Angels. For these are his creations. Yet, these holy angels it states came with this Son of Man. He was associated with them but wasn't their master/creator.

He came as a Judge but the other entity there that day was called King and later Lord in the passage. So there seems to be two entities there that day but one as judge, the other as king and Lord (Mat.25:34,37KJV) We can see a clearer depiction of this in Enoch.

As I expounded on this subject many times I will repeat myself again for those who lack the discernment as to what scripture seeks to relay to us.

This man is spoken of often from the beginning to the end of God's Word. He is given many names and titles. Why? Because God surnamed him (surname in the Hebrew vernacular meaning given many flatter names and titles (Isa.45:4KJV.) He was called by these names and titles even before he came forth or before he even acknowledged God. Even though thou hast not known me saith the Lord, I surnamed thee.

Allow me to show you a few of the many names and titles. He is called "one like the Son of man" (Dan.7:13KJV.) The other two major entities in that (chap.7) is the Ancient of days (Jesus,) and the Most High (God the Father,) (Dan.7:22KJV.) Notice (verse 22) it states until the Ancient of days (came,) this is Jesus, for the Ancient of days (Jesus) not the Most High, comes to earth in the end days. So this one like the Son of man is a different entity altogether. And the Ancient of days could never be God the Father as interpreters would have you believe b/c he doesn't come to earth in the end days, but Jesus.

He is also the same man as the man child in (Rev.5:4-5KJV.) As a matter of fact same scene (Dan.7:13KJV,) different depictions. And b/c the Word says two or three witnesses. Also the same scene concerning Joshua (Zech.3,) regardless, of what man would have us believe. This is the same man who is the prince of Israel in the end days (Ezek.21:25-27KJV.) When it is overturned three times, three years, than it shall be given to him to fulfill David's promise in (2 Sam.7:11-29KJV,) concerning God's servant.

The same man as David seen in the vision in (2 Sam.7:11-29KJV.)
And David said; "And is this the manner of man, O Lord God?" (2 Sam.7:19.) Notice again David was asking God if this was a human being he was seeing? Why was David asking that, as if in dismay? Because he recognized the high position that that man was going to be placed in.

Even the head of the house and the courts, same promise made to Joshua In (Zech.3) Why b/c he is the same man!)

And what really shocked David even more is that he (David) knew this one he called future servant, just like in (Isa.42:1KJV,) this wasn't the coming Messiah. For David had already seen the Messiah in visions and would have recognized him, whom God had already revealed to David. This was not the Messiah made known to him beforehand, and he knew and wondered was this a man/human being he was seeing?

This is the same man, prophesied by Balaam. When he said, "what hath God wrought (Num.23:23KJV.) Balaam is prophesying about a nation yes, but an individual as well, called (Jacob/Israel.) He is the Star (morning star) out of Jacob and the scepter (ruler-ship) out of Israel (Rev.2:26KJV.) Not two men but one Jacob/Israel is one of the same man. This is why Balaam keeps referring to the man as him, and he, (singular,) not they or them (plural).

Yes when it speaks of the two witnesses in (Rev.11,) it refers to them as they, them, (plural) but not all these other passages I have quoted above. They are speaking in the singular personage. Neither was Balaam speaking about the coming Messiah. For Balaam states in (Num.23:10) Let my last end be like his. Balaam would never speak this way about the Lord Jesus for to envy his end would be to seek his position which would be blasphemy. So he knew it was not Jesus being referred to as the star out of Jacob or the scepter holder. But this one the Lord has promised it, the over-comer.

So it's not the choosing or the desiring or even the calling that proves to be the over-comer. For many of the bride will only be called, and others chosen, but none will be the over-comer for he shall be the Elect One of the elect ones.

Jesus has been called the Elect One by misinterpretations. Others have even claimed he was called that in scripture but was excluded by a scribe who wanted to comply with the other scribes, in recorded scripture that didn't include the Elect one for the Lord. What hog-wash. All scripture is given by inspiration of God. If the omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient God wanted that in scripture no force could ever stop it from being there.

Jesus is not an elect one b/c they must first be saved. Jesus is the savior, not the saved. Jesus was never elected for any position or office. His gift to us was of his choosing. He never had to be elected to do anything. He is of the Godhead and is the fullness therein. Any position he placed himself in was out of his love for us, not b/c he was elected to do anything.

Men teach many wrong interpretations. like Jesus being called the day-spring, not b/c he was born in Dec or even Sept but on the day of spring. Besides this is the only time of the year that new lambs are brought forth in Israel in the spring time. That is the time of the year the shepherds are in the fields at night for the new lambs. Not in Sept but in the spring.

So where is this one who the Lord calls the over-comer. Well he that overcomes is defined as in conquer or is a conqueror. So he went forth conquering and to conquer (Rev.6:2KJV.) Why did he go forth to conquer? He went forth to conquer what was rightfully his; this world and all that is in it.

For it was given to him at the first and it is rightfully his after the curse, in the last. Thus, shall Adam receive it back, for the gifts and callings of God are without repentance (Rom.11:29KJV.)

Why does he rule with an iron rod? This is meant not to convey a harshness of ruler-ship. But an inflexibility rule toward justice and fair play toward all. No bribery or corruption shall be allowed or tolerated in his kingdom.

No deceitfulness to gain a position or recognition. The love toward one another will be the common denominator toward the good of all. And to honor God as the highest priority in the pursuit of righteousness.

And why an empty bow (Rev.6:2KJV?) Because he (the arrow) was hidden in the Lord's quiver. (Isa.49:2KJV) And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword, in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me (of the trinity only Jesus has a shadow for he is made of flesh and bone.) God the Father and the Holy spirit has no shadow for they are spirits (James.1:17KJV.) And he made me a polished shaft (arrow) in his quiver.

So the bow is not empty (Rev.6:2KJV,) it is that the arrow is only hidden temporally. For you see the conqueror is that rider (the hidden arrow) upon the white steed. And the sword proceeding from his mouth (Isa.49:2KJV) is two edged, it will do well whose hearts are quicken by it, and it shall destroy those who seek to fight against it.

That is all for now.
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2 witnesses are 2 beasts from the revelation wearing white clothes.

Those are the beasts who were gang-stalking me.

Satan wears white. AN-RA. There is 2 of them. ANNA. SATANA.

1 and 1 and 1 = 3 and 3 is like 1.

2 x 3,5 = 7 (the one)
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Thank you for the compliment, and I am a He.

To discern the over-comer in (Rev.2:26KJV) as an individual is correct. And to understand that this is talking about a singular rather than more than one is something revealed to you beyond what man teaches.

This same man (the over-comer) is throughout the scripture's and revealed as one and the same person throughout God's Word. God greatly loves him and speaks much about him in (Isa.41-52KJV) and most of the book of Job. If read with God's discernment, and many other places in scripture.

He is the Shiloh to come (Gen.49:10KJV) (Isa.49.5-13KJV) and has the strength of the unicorn; (horn) power (Deut.33:17KJV) upon his head (mind/soul,) to discern and understand God's Word. For he knew even the heart can be deceitful above all things. He is given understanding and judges correctly without physical attributes (Isa.11:1-4KJV.)

He is the commander, leader and witness, to the people (Isa.55:4KJV.) And the parables of Enoch
calls him the Chosen One, Hidden One, Elect One, the Righteous One, and the Son of Man. And it declares no one shall know or see him until his time is revealed (Enoch.19:3.) (2 Esdras.13:52KJV) Even so can no man upon the earth see my son or those that be with him but in the daytime, (when the light shines upon him, for he is hidden in the shadow.)

If the book of Enoch (Ethiopian version) is read discernibly the "Lord of Spirits" is the Father. The Name of the Lord of Spirits: and in his name, and the "Head of days" is the Son (Jesus.) And (God the Father and the Son Jesus) is always referred in the pronoun as Him, His, He in capital letters throughout the book.

While the small lettering pronouns him, his, he is referring to that one who over-comes. This man is not Jesus. And that Elect One shall pour forth all the secrets and counsel. Not b/c as God (Jesus) already knew all these things ..no b/c the Lord of Spirits taught him (the Elect One) all the secrets and counsel (Enoch.51:3).

So this man is not God (of the trinity) and hasn't His (God's) ability to process the higher attributes of God. He had to be taught all the secrets.

If this passage would have been speaking of the second Godhead of the trinity. He would have known all these things beforehand. They were given and revealed to him (Elect One, Chosen One, Son of Man, Hidden One b/c God taught him all these things and all secrets.

So in the end these things and all secrets shall begin to manifest themselves. Then shall that man be justified in his words alone and truths and new transformations still begin to unveil itself. For one purpose and only one purpose, but great benefit for all. And that purpose will be for the glory of our God. That all men/women might not perish before their time.

This book of Enoch shows the past, present, at that time and the future when he (Enoch) again is brought back to earth by the Lord and a few angels, in the last days, for the end times. And God speaks saying see if you can, and by your horns (power of understanding, discernment,) if you can recognize understand who this Elect One is for the latter days (Enoch.62:1-3.) For these are those days now, just before the end days, and just after the last days are over. Thus we are in those latter days.

Too many revealings about the latter and end days revealing in these many passages of the book of Enoch. This is why evil men have no desire that you understand its meaning. For even in that they distort what you need to know of this book of Enoch and his other works as well.

Even as he (Enoch) in those end days as Judge shall decide the separation of the two portion goat and sheep (Enoch.62:4-9,) as he sits next to the King.

In (Enoch.62:9.) He does all this in the word of the name of the Lord of Spirits (Jesus' name) and Righteous judgement of (the Lord of Spirits) God the Father. And that Elect One shall judge the nations and destroy the wicked ones who blasphemed and mocked the Lord of Glory, and spoke evil against his name, and his servants.

For know ye not it is mankind (the Elect One,) over-comer, who shall judge men and angels. They appeal to the King/Lord (Matt.25:37-KJV,) but the Judge determines their outcome for he himself overcame even as his Lord.

Notice when it states when the Son of Man comes with the holy angels. he sits upon the throne of his glory (Mat.25:31KJV.) Now he comes as a judge. Notice this Son of Man comes with the holy angels.

Now if this Son of man were representing Jesus the Son of God. It would have said the Son of Man came With His holy Angels. For these are his creations. Yet, these holy angels it states came with this Son of Man. He was associated with them but wasn't their master/creator.

He came as a Judge but the other entity there that day was called King and later Lord in the passage. So there seems to be two entities there that day but one as judge, the other as king and Lord (Mat.25:34,37KJV) We can see a clearer depiction of this in Enoch.

As I expounded on this subject many times I will repeat myself again for those who lack the discernment as to what scripture seeks to relay to us.

This man is spoken of often from the beginning to the end of God's Word. He is given many names and titles. Why? Because God surnamed him (surname in the Hebrew vernacular meaning given many flatter names and titles (Isa.45:4KJV.) He was called by these names and titles even before he came forth or before he even acknowledged God. Even though thou hast not known me saith the Lord, I surnamed thee.

Allow me to show you a few of the many names and titles. He is called "one like the Son of man" (Dan.7:13KJV.) The other two major entities in that (chap.7) is the Ancient of days (Jesus,) and the Most High (God the Father,) (Dan.7:22KJV.) Notice (verse 22) it states until the Ancient of days (came,) this is Jesus, for the Ancient of days (Jesus) not the Most High, comes to earth in the end days. So this one like the Son of man is a different entity altogether. And the Ancient of days could never be God the Father as interpreters would have you believe b/c he doesn't come to earth in the end days, but Jesus.

He is also the same man as the man child in (Rev.5:4-5KJV.) As a matter of fact same scene (Dan.7:13KJV,) different depictions. And b/c the Word says two or three witnesses. Also the same scene concerning Joshua (Zech.3,) regardless, of what man would have us believe. This is the same man who is the prince of Israel in the end days (Ezek.21:25-27KJV.) When it is overturned three times, three years, than it shall be given to him to fulfill David's promise in (2 Sam.7:11-29KJV,) concerning God's servant.

The same man as David seen in the vision in (2 Sam.7:11-29KJV.)
And David said; "And is this the manner of man, O Lord God?" (2 Sam.7:19.) Notice again David was asking God if this was a human being he was seeing? Why was David asking that, as if in dismay? Because he recognized the high position that that man was going to be placed in.

Even the head of the house and the courts, same promise made to Joshua In (Zech.3) Why b/c he is the same man!)

And what really shocked David even more is that he (David) knew this one he called future servant, just like in (Isa.42:1KJV,) this wasn't the coming Messiah. For David had already seen the Messiah in visions and would have recognized him, whom God had already revealed to David. This was not the Messiah made known to him beforehand, and he knew and wondered was this a man/human being he was seeing?

This is the same man, prophesied by Balaam. When he said, "what hath God wrought (Num.23:23KJV.) Balaam is prophesying about a nation yes, but an individual as well, called (Jacob/Israel.) He is the Star (morning star) out of Jacob and the scepter (ruler-ship) out of Israel (Rev.2:26KJV.) Not two men but one Jacob/Israel is one of the same man. This is why Balaam keeps referring to the man as him, and he, (singular,) not they or them (plural).

Yes when it speaks of the two witnesses in (Rev.11,) it refers to them as they, them, (plural) but not all these other passages I have quoted above. They are speaking in the singular personage. Neither was Balaam speaking about the coming Messiah. For Balaam states in (Num.23:10) Let my last end be like his. Balaam would never speak this way about the Lord Jesus for to envy his end would be to seek his position which would be blasphemy. So he knew it was not Jesus being referred to as the star out of Jacob or the scepter holder. But this one the Lord has promised it, the over-comer.

So it's not the choosing or the desiring or even the calling that proves to be the over-comer. For many of the bride will only be called, and others chosen, but none will be the over-comer for he shall be the Elect One of the elect ones.

Jesus has been called the Elect One by misinterpretations. Others have even claimed he was called that in scripture but was excluded by a scribe who wanted to comply with the other scribes, in recorded scripture that didn't include the Elect one for the Lord. What hog-wash. All scripture is given by inspiration of God. If the omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient God wanted that in scripture no force could ever stop it from being there.

Jesus is not an elect one b/c they must first be saved. Jesus is the savior, not the saved. Jesus was never elected for any position or office. His gift to us was of his choosing. He never had to be elected to do anything. He is of the Godhead and is the fullness therein. Any position he placed himself in was out of his love for us, not b/c he was elected to do anything.

Men teach many wrong interpretations. like Jesus being called the day-spring, not b/c he was born in Dec or even Sept but on the day of spring. Besides this is the only time of the year that new lambs are brought forth in Israel in the spring time. That is the time of the year the shepherds are in the fields at night for the new lambs. Not in Sept but in the spring.

So where is this one who the Lord calls the over-comer. Well he that overcomes is defined as in conquer or is a conqueror. So he went forth conquering and to conquer (Rev.6:2KJV.) Why did he go forth to conquer? He went forth to conquer what was rightfully his; this world and all that is in it.

For it was given to him at the first and it is rightfully his after the curse, in the last. Thus, shall Adam receive it back, for the gifts and callings of God are without repentance (Rom.11:29KJV.)

Why does he rule with an iron rod? This is meant not to convey a harshness of ruler-ship. But an inflexibility rule toward justice and fair play toward all. No bribery or corruption shall be allowed or tolerated in his kingdom.

No deceitfulness to gain a position or recognition. The love toward one another will be the common denominator toward the good of all. And to honor God as the highest priority in the pursuit of righteousness.

And why an empty bow (Rev.6:2KJV?) Because he (the arrow) was hidden in the Lord's quiver. (Isa.49:2KJV) And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword, in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me (of the trinity only Jesus has a shadow for he is made of flesh and bone.) God the Father and the Holy spirit has no shadow for they are spirits (James.1:17KJV.) And he made me a polished shaft (arrow) in his quiver.

So the bow is not empty (Rev.6:2KJV,) it is that the arrow is only hidden temporally. For you see the conqueror is that rider (the hidden arrow) upon the white steed. And the sword proceeding from his mouth (Isa.49:2KJV) is two edged, it will do well whose hearts are quicken by it, and it shall destroy those who seek to fight against it.

That is all for now.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


is this him also?

Isaiah 22:21-22

21 And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah.

22 And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open.
Farewell American Samoa, the "last stop of today and just a stones throw from tomorrow"and with that said and done I stood up, standing at the end of the day and walked boldly onward into tomorrow and to the given day of rest.





GLP