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HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?
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dude in florida User ID: 363073 2/27/2008 9:48 AM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote |
In case the website with the 1st affidavit should ever go down it would look something like this.
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Affidavit of Denial of Corporation Existance
One, Your Name (Upper/Lower case), a living, breathing Natural Man, declare that the following facts are true to the best of my knowledge and belief.
I hereby deny that the following corporations exist: THE UNITED STATES, STATE OF SHYSTER, COUNTY OF FRAUD, CITY OF FRAUD, SHYSTER, DEBT COLLECTION COMPANY NAME, ALL BAR ASSOCIATIONS, YOUR FULL NAME, of YOUR ADDRESS(in UPPER CAPS ONLY), CITY, STATE and ALL OTHER CORPORATE MEMBERS WHO ARE, OR WHO MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH ANY COMPLAINTS AGAINST MY NATURAL BODY.
If any man or woman desiring to answer this affidavit, please answer in the manner of this affidavit, with notarized affidavit, using your Christian or family name for signature, and mail to the below named notary, address provided, within ten (10) days or default will be obtained.
Your Full Name (Upper and lower case)
On the ____ day of (Month), 2008 A.D., a man who identified himself as (Your Full Name Upper and lower case) appeared before me, a notary, and attested to the truth of this affidavit with his signature.
__________________________________ Seal:
Notary Public in and for the State of (Your State)
My Commission expires; __________________
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This would be the affidavit of your first line of defense. Use wisely... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380698
does denying our corporate existence make us ineligible for all of the things in our lives that depend on this corporate name? i mean, does the govt come after people who make this declaration to make their lives harder? |
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Thanks 376378 User ID: 381436 2/27/2008 11:03 AM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote | Thanks for the advice 376378> On the matter of my credit cards. I appreciate it! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 386491 3/5/2008 8:48 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 368509 3/8/2008 2:24 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 401329 3/27/2008 1:34 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote | Will this also work on current loans and credit card debt that has not gone to collections and payments are currently being made upon |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 334219 4/2/2008 4:32 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote |
Will this also work on current loans and credit card debt that has not gone to collections and payments are currently being made upon Quoting: Anonymous Coward 401329
Read what this woman did concerning her current loans and credit card debt here to get an understanding on how the whole "scheme of things" is played out upon all of us today:
[link to www.freedom-school.com]
And after reading you can decide for yourself how you want to play the "Commerce Game". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 339386 4/3/2008 5:58 AM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote | WOW,WOW,WOW,AND WOW
THE GOOD NEWS IS HERE THANKS |
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FICO SUCCESS is the answer yo User ID: 411672 4/9/2008 9:14 AM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote | Get some true answers and clues from this e-book. I found it on ebay it's not in publication anywhere but as we all know anytime someone can give some truth to this government's bullshit they shut them down. Here's the link to the ebay page (cut and paste it) or just go to ebay and search for fico success :
[link to cgi.ebay.com] |
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t583t User ID: 430064 5/8/2008 5:01 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote | c939t |
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t583t User ID: 430064 5/8/2008 5:02 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote | c939t |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 401342 5/11/2008 8:52 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote |
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james sanders User ID: 435544 5/19/2008 7:14 AM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote | Good Morning
I have A QUESTION FOR YOU,HOW CAN I FREE MY STRAW MAN AND FILE FOR SOVEREIGNTY.
JAMES[googlevid] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 435563 5/19/2008 8:35 AM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote |
dude. I think i responded to your issue earlier.
what you will find is that the so called "loan" was sold by the bank to either a mortgage company or sent to the Federal Reserve directly.
the only thing you need to do is insist on inspecting the ORIGINAL NOTE!
Go ahead...tell them you will pay off the amount due, but you want to inspect the original note!
they won't be able to produce it!
guess what, no note..no debt.
i've used it at least 6 times on debt collection scumbags and it's worked every time.
fuck them and their bogus papers.
forget the strawman bullshit. it's true to a degree, but its so convoluted no one has ever made it work.
NO NOTE NO DEBT. that is well rooted in commercial law, but people are too stupid to get it.
and fuck those people that say it can't be done.
and OP....you didn't pay a cent for this info. Quoting: shibumi2
fourwinds10 had an article about this very thing not so long ago.i reposted the article here but i cant remember the title now. it was something along the lines of cancelling credit card debt |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 401342 5/19/2008 9:20 AM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote |
dude. I think i responded to your issue earlier.
what you will find is that the so called "loan" was sold by the bank to either a mortgage company or sent to the Federal Reserve directly.
the only thing you need to do is insist on inspecting the ORIGINAL NOTE!
Go ahead...tell them you will pay off the amount due, but you want to inspect the original note!
they won't be able to produce it!
guess what, no note..no debt.
i've used it at least 6 times on debt collection scumbags and it's worked every time.
fuck them and their bogus papers.
forget the strawman bullshit. it's true to a degree, but its so convoluted no one has ever made it work.
NO NOTE NO DEBT. that is well rooted in commercial law, but people are too stupid to get it.
and fuck those people that say it can't be done.
and OP....you didn't pay a cent for this info.
fourwinds10 had an article about this very thing not so long ago.i reposted the article here but i cant remember the title now. it was something along the lines of cancelling credit card debt Quoting: Anonymous Coward 435563
Well, so far, this method appears to be working for me.
I have 2 credit cards w/ 3rd party collection agents, and have demanded the original note for validation of debt.
So far....nothing!
One card's for ~$3000, and the other is ~$2500.
Maybe those amounts are too small for them to have to deal w/ a pain in the ass like me...?
It's only been about 3 weeks, not sure how long it takes for a response--but they haven't called, mailed, nothing in almost a month.
I'll keep you guys posted. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 435563 5/19/2008 10:01 AM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote |
Good Morning
I have A QUESTION FOR YOU,HOW CAN I FREE MY STRAW MAN AND FILE FOR SOVEREIGNTY.
JAMES[googlevid] Quoting: james sanders 435544
[link to www.freedom-school.com]
the answer is in this ebook |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 433480 5/19/2008 10:13 AM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote |
You people talk as though the money system is devised as a way to keep you down. It's not. YOU CHOOSE to take loans and/or credit cards. YOU CHOOSE to use them to accumulate debt. Then when YOUR CHOICES prove to be bad, you blame the system. Ever hear of personal accountability? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9482
Abundance is the right of every living human being. Currency and credit are ideas scripted specifically to keep us worrying about something that doesn't exist. What does personal accountability mean when on one side of the spectrum we have corporate assholes living in their false hunkey-dorey reality driving Lexus' while on the other side we have families that have to resort to using credit cards to heat their houses and feed their children.  |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 321994 5/19/2008 11:02 AM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote |
Good Morning
I have A QUESTION FOR YOU,HOW CAN I FREE MY STRAW MAN AND FILE FOR SOVEREIGNTY.
JAMES[googlevid]
[ link to www.freedom-school.com]
the answer is in this ebook Quoting: Anonymous Coward 435563
for truth
Please read, re-read, and read again that ebook.
You'll realize you knew absolutely NOTHING about how the "system" works, once you're done reading it.
Very compelling. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 401342 5/19/2008 7:55 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote | bumpity bump for FREEDOM!! |
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vkarma User ID: 442445 5/29/2008 11:52 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote |
bumpity bump for FREEDOM!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 401342
Some great info in this thread. The thing that really opened my eyes is that the whole system is a lie. It's a very simple concept, here is why -
The Fed (Federal Reserve), as most of us know, creates money out of thin air, by just adding numbers to some computer somewhere.. Then that "Monitized Credit" is forwarded to credit card companies like "Chase" who then send you a piece of plastic in exchange for your signature.
When you use this piece of plastic to buy, let's say, food for example.. The merchant is paid..and no one looses..
The big misconception is the idea that a depositor has put his money in the "Chase" bank and you have accessed that money for your own use, and have not paid him back if you default on your card... That's the lie.. |
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Gina User ID: 443925 6/1/2008 4:54 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote | I would like to get some personal help one on one. If this is possible please write me at teginawilliams@yahoo.com. I have been working with the Winston Shrout org but I need one on one help. I am willing to pay a fee or donate. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 441534 6/1/2008 5:01 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote |
bumpity bump for FREEDOM!!
Some great info in this thread. The thing that really opened my eyes is that the whole system is a lie. It's a very simple concept, here is why -
The Fed (Federal Reserve), as most of us know, creates money out of thin air, by just adding numbers to some computer somewhere.. Then that "Monitized Credit" is forwarded to credit card companies like "Chase" who then send you a piece of plastic in exchange for your signature.
When you use this piece of plastic to buy, let's say, food for example.. The merchant is paid..and no one looses..
The big misconception is the idea that a depositor has put his money in the "Chase" bank and you have accessed that money for your own use, and have not paid him back if you default on your card... That's the lie.. Quoting: vkarma
I have a pop gun that shoots air. I guess I could pay the credit card company back by aiming my pop-gun in its general direction, and then declaring I'm paying them back with the same currency as they deposited, huh?
Can't you see it all going down now?? LOL
pop pop pop.....
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 444465 6/2/2008 2:39 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote | I have a problem I was hoping to get some help with. I started a company that was incorporated in the state of IL in 2006, but has now been dissolved as of 3 weeks ago. I had two company credit cards, one with Amex, and the other with Chase.
Since the company is now dissolved, and their is no income from the company to pay back the credit cards, they are now coming after me personally. At this time their are no judgements or impending actions other than collection calls directly fro mthe card companies. Both cards are now about 60 days past due. I don't personally have the income to repay these due to my wife's loss of her job, and other circumstances. Chase balance is about $11,500, and Amex is about $4,500.
I don't recall signing any card agreements with either company. I believe that the Chase card just came as part of my setting up a business account with them, and the Amex was done online.
How should I address this? |
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Tryingtogetby User ID: 444465 6/2/2008 2:47 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote | The above is my post. I didn't want anyone to think I wasn't willing to join and post. Thanks |
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USMom68 User ID: 444999 6/3/2008 11:37 AM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote | Has anyone been successful or know of anyone that has been successful in discharging a mortgage using this process? |
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Momof3 User ID: 454663 6/19/2008 12:37 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote | Is Shibumi2 still around? I just came across this thread recently. I noticed some of it was posted in 2006!
I have a question about demanding the original note....
I read recently a post on the SuiJuris (spelling?) forum that someone went to court with this argument and the judge informed them that the original note was not required. I couldn't find that thread there again, but wondered if anyone else has been hearing this? If they do not require the original what is the next step?
Sorry I don't remember the particulars of that person's case...it could be this was secured like a mortgage?
Anyway...Love the thread and Shibumi2 if you are still out there I am going to try this with my unsecured "debts". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 308987 7/3/2008 10:11 AM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote | I have been wiaing for this Moment. This is not based on the UCC - Strawman theory, but on freedom alone and how the federal reserve works! fOR COMMENTS PLEASE EMAIL
amarcino@jeffersoncapitalfunding.com
I haveattached the actual docket of me winning the foreclosure process PRO SE!
Date Filed Case Type Judge
11/05/07 FORECLOSURE David E Henderson
Parties
Name Type Address Attorney(s)
WELLS FARGO BANK NA Plaintiff AS TRUSTEE FOR THE MLMI TRUST SERIES 2006-WMC1
C/O WILSHIRE CREDIT CORP.
14523 SW MILLIKAN WAY SUITE 200
BEAVERTON, Oregon 97005 BRIAN S JACKSON
FAIRWEATHER & JACKSON
4300 CAREW TOWER
441 VINE STREET
CINCINNATI, Ohio 45202
ANTHONY T MARCINO Defendant 129 CARAVEL PLACE
STEUBENVILLE, Ohio 43953 PRO SE
ANTHONY T. MARCINO
C/O 129 CARAVEL PLACE
WINTERSVILLE, Ohio 43953
MELISSA C MARCINO Defendant 129 CARAVEL PLACE
STEUBENVILLE, Ohio 43953
JOHN DOE NAME UNKNOWN OCCUPANT Defendant 292 MARY STREET
STEUBENVILLE, Ohio 43952
Docket (Show All Entries | Show Entries Paged)
Date Text Type
11/05/07 Deposit Payment: $55.00, by: LERNER SAMPSON & ROTHFUSS
11/05/07 FORECLOSURE ACTION FILED TOGETHER WITH INSTUCTIONS FOR SERVICE AND EXHIBITS A AND B.
11/05/07 SUMMONS TOGETHER WITH COPY OF COMPLAINT ETC MAILED BY CERT. MAIL TO DEFENDANTS.
11/05/07 CERTIFIED MAIL FOR SERVICE OF SUMMONS & COMPLAINT ETC UPON DEFENDANTS.
11/05/07 SUMMONSES (6) TOGETHER WITH (3) COPIES OF COMPLAINT ETC ISSUED TO THE JEFF. CO. SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR SERVICE UPON DEFENDANTS.
11/05/07 SUMMON WITH COPY OF COMPLAINT SENT CERTIFIED MAIL TO: ANTHONY T MARCINO ARTICE #71603901984532988337.
11/05/07 SUMMON WITH COPY OF COMPLAINT SENT CERTIFIED MAIL TO: MELISSA C MARCINO ARTICE #71603901984532988320.
11/05/07 SUMMON WITH COPY OF COMPLAINT SENT CERTIFIED MAIL TO: JOHN DOE NAME UNKNOWN OCCUPANT ARTICE #71603901984532988313.
11/07/07 Certified Mail Return : Article # : 71603901984532988320, Delivered Date : 11/07/2007, Reason : Return, Party : MELISSA C MARCINO, Note : ADDRESSED TO MELISSA C. MARCINO (SGD) (NOT LEGIBLE) ON 11/6/07, RECEIVED AND FILED.
11/07/07 Certified Mail Return : Article # : 71603901984532988337, Delivered Date : 11/07/2007, Reason : Return, Party : ANTHONY T MARCINO, Note : ADDRESSED TO ANTHONY T MARCINO (SGD) (NOT LEGIBLE ON 11/6/07, RECEIVED AND FILED.
11/07/07 Certified Mail Return : Article # : 71603901984532988313, Delivered Date : 11/07/2007, Reason : Non Deliverable, Party : JOHN DOE NAME UNKNOWN OCCUPANT, Note : ADDRESSED TO UNKNOWN OCCUPANT OF 292 MARY STREET, STEUBENVILLE, MARKED: NOT DELIVERABLE; UNABLE TO FORWARD; RETURN TO SENDER.
11/07/07 CERTIFIED MAIL ADDRESSED TO JOHN DOE UNKNOWN OCCUPANT, 292 MARY STREET, STEUBENVILLE, OHIO 43952, RETURNED THIS DAY BY THE US POST OFFICE MARKED: NOT DELIVERABLE AS ADDRESSED; UNABLE TO FORWARD; RETURN TO SENDER.
11/07/07 NOTICE OF FAILURE OF SERVICE PREPARED AND MAILED TO: CRAIG THOMAS
11/07/07 ANSWER OF DEFENDANT, ANTHONY T. MARCINO, FILED.
11/08/07 SHERIFF'S RETURN OF SERVICE OF SUMMONS (PERSONAL) FILED, ENDORSED: I RECEIVED THIS SUMMONS ON 11-5-07 AT 2:00 P.M. AND MADE PERSONAL SERVICE OF IT UPON ANTHONY MARCINO BY LOCATING HIM AND TENDERING A COPY OF SUMMONS AND ACCOMPANYING DOCUMENTS ON 11-6-07. (SGD) FRED J. ABDALLA, SHERIFF BY: TROY DEVORE, DEPUTY.
11/08/07 SHERIFF'S RETURN OF SERVICE OF SUMMONS (RESIDENCE) FILED, ENDORSED: I RECEIVED THIS SUMMONS ON 11-5-07 AT 2:00 P.M. AND MADE PERSONAL SERVICE OF IT UPON DEFENDANT, MELISSA MARCINO A PERSON OF SUITABLE AGE AND DISCRETION THEN RESIDING THEREIN, A COPY OF THE SUMMONS, A COPY OF THE COMPLAINT AND ACCOMPANYING DOCUMENTS ON 11-6-07. (SGD) FRED J. ABDALLA, SHERIFF BY: TROY DEVORE, DEPUTY.
11/08/07 SHERIFF'S RETURN OF SERVICE OF SUMMONS (FAILURE OF SERVICE) FILED, ENDOSED: I RECEIVED THIS SUMMONS ON 11-5-07 AT 2:00 P.M. WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO MAKE PERSONAL-SERVICE UPON THE DEFENDANT, UNKNOWN OCCUPANT. THERE IS NO ADDRESS OF 292 MARY ST., STEUBENVILLE, OH 43952 (SGD) FRED J. ABDALLA, SHERIFF BY: AARON ELLENBERGER, DEPUTY.
11/08/07 NOTICE OF FAILURE OF SERVICE PREPARED AND MAILED TO: CRAIG A THOMAS ESQ.
11/16/07 COUNTERCLAIM FILED BY ANTHONY T. MARCINO, PRO SE, AND FOR MELISSA MARCINO.
11/16/07 AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENCY FILED.
11/16/07 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE FILED.
11/16/07 MOTION FOR EXTENSION OF TIME FILED BY ATTY. CRAIG A. THOMAS, FOR PLAINTIFF, WITH CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE.
11/16/07 JOURNAL ENTRY FILED IN RE: IT IS HEREBY ORDERED THAT PLAINTIFF BE GRANTED UNTIL DECEMBER 15, 2007 TO REPLY TO THE DEFENDANT'S COUNTERCLAIM FILED HEREIN.
12/17/07 NOTICE OF SUBSTITUTION OF COUNSEL FOR PLAINTIFF FILED WITH CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE - THAT BRIAN S. JACKSON (OHIO BAR NO. 0068516) OF THE LAW FIRM OF FAIRWEATHER & JACKSON LLC, 4300 CAREW TOWER, 411 VINE STREET CINCINNATE, OH 45202 IS SUBSTITUTED AS COUNSEL FOR PLAINTIFF IN PLACE OF CRAIG A. THOMAS OF THE LAW FIRM OF LERNER, SAMPSON & ROTHFUSS, LLP. AND CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE.
12/17/07 PLAINTIFF'S REPLY TO COUNTERCLAIM OF DEFENDANT, ANTHONY MARCINO FILED WITH CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE.
01/14/08 AMENDED ANSWERS, DEFENSES, FILED BY ANTHONY T. MARCINO, PRO SE, WITH CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE.
06/13/08 MOTION TO DISMISS FILED BY ANTHONY T. MARCINO, ET, AL, WITH NOTICE OF HEARING (SET FOR MONDAY, JUNE 30, 2008 AT 9:00 A.M.) AND CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE.
07/02/08 JOURNAL ENTRY FILED IN RE: IT IS ORDERED THAT THE COMPALINT OF THE PLAINTIFF IS HEREBY DISMISSED AS THE PLAINTIFF IS NOT A REAL PARTY IN INTEREST.
07/02/08 POSTAGE FOR COPIES OF ENTRY FILED 7/2/08 MAILED TO BRIAN S. JACKSON, ESQ., AND ANTHONY T. MARCINO.
07/02/08 Disposition: DISMISSAL Disposition Code |
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monieB User ID: 464450 7/7/2008 3:22 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote | ok, so i am totally oblivious to all that is going on... i got introduced to the winston strout idea last night and i am looking for info... anybody have suggestons or comments about his ideas? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 196275 7/7/2008 7:51 PM | | Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid? | Quote |
Is Shibumi2 still around? I just came across this thread recently. I noticed some of it was posted in 2006!
I have a question about demanding the original note....
I read recently a post on the SuiJuris (spelling?) forum that someone went to court with this argument and the judge informed them that the original note was not required. I couldn't find that thread there again, but wondered if anyone else has been hearing this? If they do not require the original what is the next step?
Sorry I don't remember the particulars of that person's case...it could be this was secured like a mortgage?
Anyway...Love the thread and Shibumi2 if you are still out there I am going to try this with my unsecured "debts". Quoting: Momof3
This has been an issue with the foreclosures and someone in Florida raised the issue and won.
Essentially, companies that have no original...and almost none of them do (except STATE CHARTEREWD banks generally) have been filing AFFIDAVIT OF LOST DOCUMENT.
These affidavits are statements to the court that the supporting document is lost and petitioning the court to accept the copy. The Florida case WON and had that petition denied by arguing that the mortgage companies were relying on these lost doc affidavits routinely which was never the case. The court dismissed the foreclosure.
I think if one is intorduced just raise that issue. You can also attack the copy as SOMEONE has to authenticate it and probably no one else was present at the signing except YOU...and you are sure as hell not going to authenticate it.
I think its a non-issue.
shibumi2 |
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