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HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?

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agape093
User ID: 465211
7/9/2008 4:35 AM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

THANK YOU THANK YOU
Mr. Coward!!!!
It took me awhile to get through this whole thread but WOW it was worth the effort!
off to do some home work now, you can be sure i will share this gold with alot of folks!
also happy to donate and upgrade my membership!
been on this site about an hour and the info was worth 1000's of dollars. " hey i think that means i'm in debt to you?" LOL!

seriously as i read the info i'm researching i see we have worked and commenced bank transactions being recorded and stored for safe keeping till some day i may need a relief/remedy if my assets are ever at risk.
well last year
a divorce
corp re-stucturing of our 7 year old company
and a frivolous patent lawsuit
along with my biz manager quitting During all the change/chaos created a hardship circumstance I needed to handle and quick!
Levy's and Lien's, back taxes, credit bullies, license revoking tactics, pretty much forced me to close my specialty biz of restoring hair on cancer survivors (who to this day are still willing to pay me in cash and visit me in jail if need be).
But I have a hunch this process is happening for a very good reason, stay tuned i am sending in my private off set discharging and indemnity bond tomorrow!!!

I feel I have worked and paid into our system for 20 years and I have Utilized conveniences that money payed for over the years. I will continue to pay taxes and create jobs here after. I feel the trade is equal for in a time of hardship our country used my proof of birth to leverage our countries growth in 1933 and now I am usuing the relief/remedy that was put in place at that time

HJR 192
"...every obligation, heretofore or hereafter incurred, whether or not any such provision is contained therein or made with respect thereto, shall be discharged upon payment, dollar for dollar, in any coin or currency which at time of payment is legal tender for public and private debts..." -- House Joint Resolution 192

this has been public information since 1933

thank you to all who have discovered this and shared in the faces of no agreement and those courageous souls lobbing in a new era for revolutionaries.
I will share the chronicles of a Sleeping Sovereign as the process unfolds.
k
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 374755
7/9/2008 7:27 AM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

The way I understand the UCC is that you make yourself the Debtor and Creditor of your car (any property). So, then you get fined and the Court then pays you after they fine you, so you win.

Here's a website that explains it fairly well. We all must, must, must adopt this strategy. You'll get used to winning.

The Laywers Secret Oath
[link to www.apfn.org]
Search for UCC with your computers Edit > Find
kikiluv
User ID: 465369
7/9/2008 12:39 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

thank you so much!
will document as i gather more info
xo :)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 376019
7/9/2008 1:13 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

i gather The UCC is mostly a trick... however, I guess if you have your Ninjitsu to the fullest degree you can use it.

Otherwise, i'd advise using the English Common law because that was what was used in 1770's.

Also, if you a african american, or any other heritage, you can set the basis for your law in a contract with the local municipalities.

That would be using "Notice" and "Grace".

Now, attorenys will dis-sway you from using this because they are meant to protect this.

Check your local paper, you'll see foreclosures need to give notice, wait for it to cure, than publish notice in the public newpaper.


Common law is still very active and you can enter into agreements with any corporation in this world, give em your stipulations, and give em 30 days, registered mail...

FL, GA, MS are all corporations created under the laws of D.C. (United States)

None can prove they are the original lawful bodies created before the civil war...

ask them, give em thirty days ... they can't answe
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 376019
7/9/2008 1:28 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

The end-goal should be to provide evidence to show you are sepereate from the entity created at your birth. (Legal Name).

The 'legal name' was created to keep track of the Credit YOU EXTEND to the Federal Government. That is your credit
score.

This HAD to be done when the gold was removed from circulation.

Whoever creates the credit though, has fiduciary obligations to fulfill.

For UScitizens, its now abidding by the USCode, you can be cited and given a inraction by a commericial policeman operating out of DC for not fulfilling your fiduciary obligation to back the debt of the United States.
Military
User ID: 465588
7/9/2008 9:10 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

Hey everyone, anyone by any chance now how this entire THREAD can be printed out easily? Without having to highlight every page and copy and paste?.... Just wondering, INFO is by far the best, Im in the process...Fuck this Country and Bankers imo...
Military
User ID: 465588
7/9/2008 9:32 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

Hey everyone is MIlitary again.... So I ran across another Thread somewhere, Forgot to save it i think, But the "guy" was saying something about how it was standing in line at a bank,,,getting ready to cash a check...noticed that the guy in front of him was cashing a check as well.

He saw that the guy in front had to pay the $5 charge for cashing the check since he wasnt part of the "bank" ...

So the guy then went on saying that





you have to tell the teller something alone the lines of
"I have a draft of an unassured value...."



then you Endorse it a special way with something along the lines of
"Unassured cash, blah blah, then Sign it"



Dont Quote my quotes... i was being VARY vague just from my memory of what I read... what im asking is if anyone can give me the correct words to say to the tell and what to write as your endorsement.



THANKS!
Momof3
User ID: 454663
7/10/2008 1:56 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

Here is an interesting segment that was on CNN....

CNN...tells banksters to produce the original note!!!

[link to uk.youtube.com]
pro se
User ID: 466212
7/11/2008 3:19 AM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

Here is an interesting segment that was on CNN....

CNN...tells banksters to produce the original note!!!

[link to uk.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Momof3 454663

also you may click the following link for more useful info about fighting back against the mortg corps etc....
[link to www.consumerwarningnetwork.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 472240
8/13/2008 11:55 AM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

This could have already been answered in a page I might have missed and realize this is an old thread but maybe someone reading will know...

On letters to these third party collection agencies should the closing read "Signed Without Prejudice" or all right reserved, etc. above actual signature and address?

I am about to deal with a couple of shyster law firms, aka debt collectors, and looking to cover all bases.
Bon
User ID: 484202
8/13/2008 3:00 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

Hi Shibumi.

Thank you so much for enlighteing me with this very valuable information. I am dealing with credit card collection agencies, two of them at the moment. I sent them both the letter you posted, asking for ORIGINAL contract, etc. One of these blood suckers is harrasing me at work, calling to ask if i still work where I am now. This lady called at least 20 times, of course I told her off by claiming that the person she is asking for no longer works here. I am a bit concerned that my boss would pick up and don't want to deal with that reality. At any rate, what do you suggest I do in this case, should I just send them another letter to stop harrasing me with phone calls?

Thank you so much,
if easier you can contact me at gemofgibraltar@gmail.com
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 484217
8/13/2008 3:27 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

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ExhaleAeonVolts
User ID: 444542
8/20/2008 2:22 AM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

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Angels Don't Grow on Wall Street. -E.A.V.

“Get the facts first. You can distort them later. ” - Mark Twain

Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.

- Thomas Jefferson
texan07
User ID: 503048
9/14/2008 7:44 AM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

i just spent several hours reading this whole thread. fascinating. it's like the curtain is pulled back and the wizard is caught with his pants down

anyway, a year ago, i got called, out of the blue, about an old old utility bill.

the lady blindsided me at work, she rambled on, finishing up with "How would you like to take care of that sir, with visa or mastercard?"

I replied dead pan. "I'm sorry mam, I have no earthly idea what you just said in the last two minutes, but it sounds like you're attempting to collect money, and I have no way to verify the validity of your claims, so you'll have to submit the details in writing, so that I may inspect for myself that you are who you say you are, and have a bonafide issue with me."

She said OK. I never heard from them again. Never recieved anything in the mail.
BIGGKENN
User ID: 512072
9/27/2008 5:21 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

i gather The UCC is mostly a trick... however, I guess if you have your Ninjitsu to the fullest degree you can use it.

Otherwise, i'd advise using the English Common law because that was what was used in 1770's.

Also, if you a african american, or any other heritage, you can set the basis for your law in a contract with the local municipalities.

That would be using "Notice" and "Grace".

Now, attorenys will dis-sway you from using this because they are meant to protect this.

Check your local paper, you'll see foreclosures need to give notice, wait for it to cure, than publish notice in the public newpaper.


Common law is still very active and you can enter into agreements with any corporation in this world, give em your stipulations, and give em 30 days, registered mail...

FL, GA, MS are all corporations created under the laws of D.C. (United States)

None can prove they are the original lawful bodies created before the civil war...

ask them, give em thirty days ... they can't answe
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 376019




Hello-
I have just read the entire Thread and I was curisous if someone would be willing to help with a few small scams I seem to have gotten involved in!? Maybe post on this thread that you are indeed willing to help and we can pass info at a later time. I just a have a few questions when it comes to thier potentiel rebutles in court. What I fucking scam this entire thing is....did I mention my scams are all with 3rd party collection agencies.
ExhaleAeonVolts
User ID: 444542
9/29/2008 3:12 AM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

bump
Angels Don't Grow on Wall Street. -E.A.V.

“Get the facts first. You can distort them later. ” - Mark Twain

Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.

- Thomas Jefferson
pinebilly
User ID: 515104
10/1/2008 3:52 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

Hello Everyone,

I know this thread was started years ago and it seems like some of the original posters have moved on. Great thread btw, awesome information.

I was wondering if anyone had the knowledge and was willing to share in regards to the two letters I will post below.

I wanted someones opinion as to "which letter is better" to send to a CA in regards to debt validation.

FIRST LETTER


To Whom It May Concern:

This letter is being sent to you in response to a notice sent to me on September 19, 2008. Be advised that this is not a refusal to pay, but a notice sent pursuant to the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 15 USC 1692g Sec. 809 (b) that your claim is disputed and validation is requested.

This is NOT a request for “verification” or proof of my mailing address, but a request for VALIDATION made pursuant to the above named Title and Section. I respectfully request that your offices provide me with competent evidence that I have any legal obligation to pay you.

Please provide me with the following:

§ Complete payment history, the requirement of which has been established via Spears v Brennan 745 N.E.2d 862; 2001 Ind. App. LEXIS 509 and
§ Agreement that bears the signature of the alleged debtor wherein he agreed to pay the original creditor.
§ Letter of sale or assignment from the original creditor to your company. (Agreement with your client that grants you the authority to collect on this alleged debt.) Coppola v. Arrow Financial Services, 302CV577, 2002 WL 32173704(D.Conn., Oct. 29, 2002) – Information relating to the purchase of a bad debt is not proprietary or burdensome. Debtor must phrase their request clearly to obtain: The source of a debt and the amount a bad debt buyer paid for plaintiff’s debt, how amount sought was calculated, where in issue a list of reports to credit bureaus, and documents conferring authority on defendant to collect debt.
§ Intimate knowledge of the creation of the debt by you, the collection agency
§ What the money you say I owe is for
§ Explain and show me how you calculated what you say I owe
§ Provide a verification or copy of any judgment if applicable
§ Show me that you are licensed to collect in my state
§ Provide me with your license numbers and Registered Agent

I’m sure you know, under FDCPA Section 809 (b), you are not allowed to pursue collection activity until the debt is validated. You should be made aware that in TWYLA BOATLEY, Plaintiff, vs. DIEM CORPORATION, No. CIV 03-0762 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF ARIZONA, 2004, the courts ruled that reporting a collection account indeed is considered collection activity.



If your offices have reported invalidated information to any of the 3 major Credit Bureau’s (Equifax, Experian or TransUnion) this action might constitute fraud under both Federal and State Laws. Due to this fact, if any negative mark is found on any of my credit reports by your company or the company that you represent I will not hesitate in bringing legal action against you for the following:

§ Violation of the Fair Credit Reporting Act
§ Violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act
§ If your offices are able to provide the proper documentation as requested in the following Declaration, I will require at least 30 days to investigate this information and during such time all collection activity must cease and desist.

Also during this validation period, if any action is taken which could be considered detrimental to any of my credit reports, I will consult with my legal counsel for suit. This includes any listing any information to a credit reporting repository that could be inaccurate or invalidated or verifying an account as accurate when in fact there is no provided proof that it is.

If your offices fail to respond to this validation request within 30 days from the date of your receipt, all references to this account must be deleted and completely removed from my credit file and a copy of such deletion request shall be sent to me immediately.

I would also like to request, in writing, that no telephone contact be made by your offices to my home or to my place of employment. If your offices attempt telephone communication with me, including but not limited to computer generated calls and calls or correspondence sent to or with any third parties, it will be considered harassment and I will have no choice but to file suit. All future communications with me MUST be done in writing and sent to the address noted in this letter by USPS.

It would be advisable that you assure that your records are in order before I am forced to take legal action. This is an attempt to correct your records, any information obtained shall be used for that purpose.

Best Regards,


SECOND LETTER


Dewey, Cheatum and Howe PC
PO Box XXX
Lowlife TX 66666-6666

Attn: Unknown—Unsigned Correspondence Received

June X, 2006

VIA: Certified Mail # _________________________

Re: Your account #666

A collection letter was received from your office on May X, 2006.

You are hereby in receipt of notice under the authority of the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act regarding your above referenced file number that part, or all, of the alleged debt is DISPUTED and hereby demand validation and verification, in writing, as follows:

1) A copy of the ORIGINAL signed contract and other supporting documentation that gave rise to the alleged obligation Dewey, Cheatum and Howe PC is claiming owed.

2) Statement, under penalty of perjury:
a. that your client is the bona fide party in interest of the contract and will produce said ORIGINAL signed contract (#1 above) for my own and a judge’s inspection should there be a trial to contest these matters.
b. the name and address of all persons, corporations, associations, legal firms or any other parties and entities having an interest in the collection or legal proceedings regarding the alleged debt.
c. that as a debt collector you have not purchased evidence of debt and are proceeding with this collection activity solely in the name of the original contracting party.
d. that you know and understand that certain clauses in a contract of adhesion are unenforceable unless the party to whom the contract is extended could have selectively rejected the clause.
e. and provide written verification from the stated creditor that you are authorized to act on their behalf in this debt collection action.
f. That Dewey Cheatum and Howe PC has taken reasonable and prudent diligence to verify that the amount claimed owed is in fact a legitimate debt prior to instigating this action and making said claims, and that all relevant correspondence has been reviewed prior to initiating this claim.

3) Production of the account and general ledger statement showing the full accounting of the alleged obligation you are attempting to collect from me, signed and sworn by the person responsible for maintaining these records and having first hand knowledge as to their accuracy and authenticity, and able to testify under oath to that effect.

Contacting me again after receipt of this notice without providing procedurally proper validation of the alleged debt constitutes a scheme of fraud by advancing a writing that you know or should know is false, with the intention that the courts and/or others rely on the written communication to impair or damage my credit rating, my reputation, my standing in the community as well as intentionally inflicting financial and emotional harm upon me. I take this notice, and my rights, very seriously and expect Dewey Cheatum and Howe to do the same.

Your firm is now the third debt collection firm to contact me in regards to this alleged debt. I have requested the exact same information from each firm and to date have received no response. In the event that this debt is not validated by you as required by the Fair Debt Collections Act, you have a legal responsibility to terminate the claim and correct any negative credit reporting which may have been made in connection with this alleged debt. You may want to obtain a legal opinion on this, but I believe that would constitute a scheme of fraud if this debt were to be resold; assuming that Dewey Cheatum and Howe PC has in fact purchased evidence of debt in this matter.

I also will not respond to any future correspondence which is not signed or does not indicate who at your firm has sent the demand for payment.

I expect timely responses to the above confirmations and that they be made in writing and sent via certified mail to the address listed below. Alternately, a letter from your firm that the matter has been satisfied and that any adverse credit reporting relating to this transaction has been expunged by the three major credit reporting agencies.

Signed

U.R. Fraud



THANKS IN ADVANCE! Any help is vastly appreciated!

Pinebilly
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 523640
10/11/2008 4:55 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

Difficult to nearly impossible to pull it off, no matter that the principles might be valid. This nation has been sold into bondage, and the bonds are failing to perform as promised.

Your birth certificate was used as collateral backing for the national debt. The bondage is absolutely Bibical in nature. There is a book titled "Babylonian Woe" written by David Astle found in the files area of the yahoo group IJCCR. Get this book.

Here are some links:

[link to ecclesia.org]
[link to ecclesia.org]
[link to www.suijuris.net]

Rice McLeod material is here: [link to beam.to]
Kevin Hines site is: [link to www.tapesite.com]

Yahoo groups:

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[link to groups.yahoo.com]

A search for the following names will get you in contact with the
leading edge thinking in the field of redemption of the strawman.
(in no particular order)

Howard Griswold
Al Adask [link to www.adask.net]
Barton Buhtz
Rice McLeod
Cyndie and Byron Beers
Winston Shrout
Jack Smith
Victoria Joy (angel with an inkwell)

George Mercier, Invisible Contracts
[link to www.wealth4freedom.com]

More links: [link to ucc-redemption.info] [link to www.uccredemption.com]
[link to www.scu.edu]
[link to www.commonlawvenue.com]
[link to www.notaryprotest.com]
[link to www.wealth4freedom.com]
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[link to www.supremelaw.org]
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[link to www.angelfire.com]
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[link to sw.jeffotto.com]
[link to www.commonlawvenue.com]
[link to www.jusbelli.com]
[link to autarchic.tripod.com]
[link to www.wealth4freedom.com]
[link to www.wealth4freedom.com]
[link to www.adventuresinlegalland.com]
[link to www.mayanmajix.com]
[link to www.breaktherulesandwin.com]
[link to famguardian.org]
[link to autarchic.tripod.com]

Truth Sets Us Free: [link to www.truthsetsusfree.com]

Get these files:
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[link to autarchic.tripod.com]

Jean Keating:
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[link to www.freedom-school.com]

The REDEMPTION MANUAL 4th EDITION
which sells for $115.00(includes shipping)
and includes a CD published by:

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Tele: 541-779-7709
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They also have an offering:
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Read the following webpages:
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[link to www.hiscovenantministries.org]
[link to presys.com]

Read about the two constitutions:
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This pdf file tells you how we got under admiralty law:
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This guy says this is a lot of mythology; do your own due diligence:
[link to www.teamlaw.org]

George Mercier's INVISIBLE CONTRACTS book tells you how you signed in
to their hidden agenda via adhesion contracts (free & zipped version):
[link to www.worldnewsstand.net]

The Mandrake Mechanism:
[link to www.wealth4freedom.com]

Some associated things have been written. Get them if you haven't
already: "Billions for Bankers" and "I want the Earth + 5%"

Figure out the exact functions of money systems and re-engineer the
system: [link to www.reinventingmoney.com]
Complementary Currencies: [link to www.complementarycurrency.org]
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 368509
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 272356
11/8/2008 5:29 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

OP

Hate to say it but a debt is a debt. You may be able to bring this strategy up, but you will lose. Be cautious as an unwise move at this time may be seen as "fraudulent conveyance" or "attempted theft by deception". Default on a loan will get a judgment against you, fraud will get you time.

Avoid bankruptcy if you can, it isn't worth the years of hard work to get back in shape. Negotiate with the party attempting collection. They will typically rather negotiate than chase you in court and attempt to collect a judgement.

As for mortgages, notes etc. The originials or certified copies are available at the Clerk of the Court and certified copies are admissable in any court.

As for whose fault your debt is, you can whine all you want about TPTB or "the man". You incurred a debt under both UCC and Common Law. Fair or not, remember the schoolyard strategy, don't provoke a bully. The bully may be wrong, but he will beat you just the same.

Be cautious about implementing any of the strategies you find on the net ....unless you have plenty of time and money to fight in court.

Good Luck
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81125
rachel
User ID: 529732
11/8/2008 5:53 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 554866
11/19/2008 7:09 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

What if it's past 30 days. What's next?
this is all bullshit. i tried this with a goodyear credit card i stopped paying on and the collectors threatened me with further legal action after i asked for the "original note." the conversation was being recorded and i had already acknowledged i was the person with the debt.


It doesn't matter what you tell them over the phone, verbal threats have NO LEGAL CLOUT. You can tell them you are Henry Kissenger for all they care. It doesn't matter. The so-called contract you signed with the credit card company doesn't have any characteristics of a valid, legal binding contract. What you and I sign are unenforceable, UNILATERAL contracts with thugs. Therefore I would advice to start with, (B.), in the second part of dealing with Credit Cards as outlined here from a previous post:

[/qoute]My advice would be to stay away from the whole UCC-1 thing, for now. You have to understand that when living in a Commercial world/venue you have to play by the rules of the Commerce Game:
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1. A workman is worthy of his hire. Authorities: Exodus 20:15; Lev. 19:13; Matt. 10:10; Luke 10:7; II Tim. 2:6. Legal maxim: “It is against equity for freemen not to have the free disposal of their own property.

2. All are equal under the law (God’s Law-Moral and Natural Law). Authorities: Exodus 21:23-25; Lev. 24:17-21; Deut. 1:17, 19:21; Matt. 22:36-40; Luke 10:17; Col. 3:25. Legal maxims: “No one is above the law.”; “Commerce, by the law of nations, ought to be common, and not to be converted into a monopoly and the private gain of a few.”

3. In commerce, truth is sovereign. See Exodus 20:16; Psalms 117:2; John 8:32; II Cor. 13:8. Legal maxim: “To lie is to go against the mind.” Oriental proverb: “Of all that is good, sublimity is supreme.”

4. Truth is expressed in the form of an Affidavit. See Lev. 5:4-5; Lev. 6:3-5; Lev. 19:11-13; Num. 30:2; Matt. 5:33; James 5:12.

5. A matter must be expressed to be resolved. See Heb. 4:16; Phil. 4:5; Eph. 6:19-21. Legal maxim: “He who fails to assert his rights has none.”

6. An unrebutted affidavit stands as truth in commerce. See 1 Pet. 1:25; Heb. 6:13-15. Legal maxim: “He who does not deny, admits.”

7. An unrebutted affidavit becomes a judgment in commerce. See Heb. 6:16-17. Any proceeding in court, tribunal, or arbitration forum consists of a contest, or “duel,” of commercial affidavits wherein the points remaining unrebutted in the end stand as the truth and the matters to which the judgment of the law is applied.

8. He who leaves the field of battle first (does not respond to Affidavit) loses by default. See Book of Job; Matt 10:22. Legal maxim: “He who does not repel a wrong when he can occasions it.”

9. Sacrifice is the measure of credibility. One who is not damaged, put at risk, or willing to swear an oath on his commercial liability for the truth of his statements and legitimacy of his actions has no basis to assert claims or charges and forfeits all credibility and right to claim authority. See Acts 7, life/death of Stephen. Legal maxim: “He who bears the burden ought also to derive the benefit.”

10. A lien or claim, under commercial law, can only be satisfied by one of the following actions. See Gen. 2-3; Matt 4; Revelation. Legal maxim: “If the plaintiff does not prove his case , the defendant is absolved.”

10.1. A rebuttal Affidavit of Truth, supported by evidence, point-by-point.

10.2. Payment.

10.3. Agreement.

10.4. Resolution by a jury according to the rules of common law.
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Now look at #4,5,6, and ESPECIALLY 7. What does that tell you?

Also, when it comes to so-called "money" it doesn't exist. The remedy is found in HJR-192. The PTB won't admit it but the U.S. is truely BRANKRUPT. And if there is only pieces of paper, fiat money, to live with you play the Commerce Game with other pieces of paper. But BE CAREFUL and PRUDENT. After all, you are dealing with thugs who are only interested in collecting the "interest" on the fraudulent, national debt.

Here are some good places to start, briefly, in catorgies:

1. Traffic tickets:

Newbies: [link to ticketslayer.com]
Experienced: [link to www.freedom-school.com]

2. Credit Card Debts, and others - i.e. bills, student loans, etc. (However, see the end for my take on rent payments!):

A. After getting sick and tired of paying you can wait for the account to go to collections. After going to collections, WITHIN 30 DAYS YOU CAN SEND THEM THIS!!:

[link to www.fair-debt-collection.com]

B. After they respond with copies of your statements, send them both the Notice and AFFIDAVIT:

[link to www.fair-debt-collection.com]

[link to www.usa-the-republic.com]

(But of course, you would have to tailor it to your situation! ALSO, DON'T FORGET TO PUT THE ADDRESS OF THE NOTARY ON YOUR NOTICE.)

C. Then, if they try to move again against you, send them this:

[link to freedom-school.com]

(Again, study, do some research and tailor for yourself. Yes, you can do this without a UCC-1.)

And what will happen is the debt will either be discharged, they will try to take you, or threaten you, to court (laughable and doubtful in regards to the affidavits already filed), or, MORE THAN LIKELY, they will sell it to another interloper, debt collector. You have to be persistent because each time they sell the debt to another collector, over time, it becomes "worthless" to other interlopers/players in the field.

Now for rent payments, you are REALLY going to have to understand your situation. Yes, it is possible to not pay your rent and eventually have the debt discharged but your Credit Report won't let you easily move to another apartment/dwelling anytime soon. And remember, DON'T DO THIS WITH OTHER LIVING SOULS. If the apartment is owned by a sole proprietor, FORGET IT! IT WON'T WORK AND YOU JUST BROKE THE REAL LAW OF THE LAND: Don't infringe or impede on another person's life, liberty, and persuit of happines!

That being said, you can also use the affidavit first mentioned to keep your property safe. For example, suppose you can't get your inspection sticker on your car and the apartment manager is threatening to tow it! Remember who you are - life and blood, natural man/woman. Send them the affidavit:

[link to www.usa-the-republic.com]

, and watch them stop themselves in their tracks! But, as I said again, you have to DO SOME RESEARCH and study on your own.
[/qoute]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380698
*Auttent
User ID: 565007
12/3/2008 2:12 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

[link to secretpart.9ix.net]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 564983
12/3/2008 2:28 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

Hi Shibumi.

Thank you so much for enlighteing me with this very valuable information. I am dealing with credit card collection agencies, two of them at the moment. I sent them both the letter you posted, asking for ORIGINAL contract, etc. One of these blood suckers is harrasing me at work, calling to ask if i still work where I am now. This lady called at least 20 times, of course I told her off by claiming that the person she is asking for no longer works here. I am a bit concerned that my boss would pick up and don't want to deal with that reality. At any rate, what do you suggest I do in this case, should I just send them another letter to stop harrasing me with phone calls?

Thank you so much,
if easier you can contact me at gemofgibraltar@gmail.com
 Quoting: Bon 484202


surprised to see this thread pop up again.

if you are still on, once the demand for validation of debt has been made, they are precluded by FDCPA act from any additonal calls. Don't tell them to stop calling, tell them that they are violating the law by continuing to make dunning calls after you have requested validation.

you can tell a collection agency to stop contacting you, but under statute that allows them to move past the validation stage and directly to collections/default judgment. its all a carefully crafted scam but you can work through it easily by knowing what the rules of engagement are.

It always puzzles me that people will read the directions to play monopoly or to install a printer but don't bother to learn the LAW that is being used against them to take their money and property.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 564983
12/3/2008 2:32 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

by the way, if they continue to call AFTER you have WRITTEN them per my template posted earlier, you can sue under FDCPA.

typical bogus law limits recovery to $1,000 plus provable damages, but let's say they called you at work and you lost your job as a result. You could probably slam them big time since you would have VERIFYABLE damages.

the standard for recovery is pretty straightforward. you just have to prove that you requested verification, they didn't provide it, and they subsequently contacted you.

Advantage $1000 to YOU. Don't imagine you would be hearing from them after that.

have fun!
*hopShannon
User ID: 573335
12/16/2008 12:52 AM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

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FM ECONOMIST
User ID: 574539
12/17/2008 8:28 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

DECEMBER 17, 2008

I AM CURRENTLY IN A CIVIL TRAIL IN MISSOURI WITH CAPITAL ONE BANK, WILLMINGTON DELAWARE AND IN NEED OF SOME ADVICE ON HOW TO HANDLE BEING PURPOSELY DEFRAUDED BY THE PLANTIFF'S ATTORNEY. HE COMMITTED THE ACT OF MAKING FALSE STATEMENTS BEFORE THE JUDGE IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF GREENE COUNTY BY STATING THAT I WAS ARGUING THE CHARGES OF THE CREDIT CARD AND NOT QUESTIONING THE DEBT ITSELF. I TOLD HIM I WAS CHALLENGING THE VALIDITY OF THE DEBT AND THAT I WOULD BE REPRESENTING MYSELF IN THIS CASE. ARE THERE ANY REMEDIES FOR WHAT THE ATTORNEY SAID BEFORE THE JUDGE IN THIS CASE? OR AM I GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A DEFAULT JUDGEMENT FOR THIS FRAUD. ALSO IS THERE A MOTION TO DISMISS I CAN SUBMIT TO THE COURT OVER JURSDICTIONAL CONFLICT?
I SURE DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE IN ALL THEIR ADVICE ON THIS BLOG.

THANKS SO MUCH
MR. CROWELL
HowlinJack
User ID: 580163
12/26/2008 8:34 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

I have a sizeable HELOC from the now defunct IndyMac Federal Bank. It is about $180k. The home this mortgage was secured by is now severely over leveraged by a first mortgage of $728K plus this HELOC. Times being what they are I was not able to sell or refinance nor keep the payments up.

IndyMac has apparently either sold this debt to a collection agency or is using a collection firm to attempt to collect the debt. I was unaware that they could do that. I thought that they could only take the home back. Apparently they have figured out that they will get nothing by foreclosing on the home and have somehow managed to be able to come after me directly.

I received the dunning letter from them at the beginning of December. It was dated November 19. It took me a few weeks to figure out what the heck was going on and luckily I came across this thread. I just sent out the FDCPA dispute letter I saw on this site via certified mail. I also checked with the State of California to see if this collection LLC is registered in CA. It isn't.

I had intended on trying to settle this account after I am able to get a modification of terms on the first mortgage holder. I figured why waste the time with #2 if #1 isn't going to play ball. Well, #1 is playing ball, however, now it appears I am being sent to collections by the second mortgage holder. I would be willing to settle with them for maybe .05-.10 cents on the dollar.

My rationalization is that because of the banks piss poor lending practices, they have damaged the value of my asset severely. My home has lost almost 50% of its value over the last two years which has essentially stripped me of any viable solutions to the problem of no longer making enough to make the payment. I can't refinance nor can I sell them home to payoff the mortgage. If I were to sell them home, the first mortgage holder would lose about $250k and the IndyMac HELOC would receive nothing.

I am concerned that because IndyMac bank has failed and the FDIC has taken over operations, does that change any of the interaction suggested in this thread? Does the fact that this mortgage was supposed to be secured against the home and due to market conditions is essentially unsecured at this point alter any of the methods suggested herein?
Heyoka
User ID: 568958
12/26/2008 9:10 PM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

HI GLP.

I have a legal/financial issue that may be going to court soon. I cannot afford to lose!

I lost my job some time ago and was unable to keep up on payments for a car loan.

While considering declaring bankruptcy I discovered the 'Straw man'/Soveriegnty websites out there. Here are the sites i have found.

[link to www.worldnewsstand.net]

[link to www.the7thfire.com]

[link to www.halexandria.org]

[link to www.wealth4freedom.com]

Does anyone know if this stuff really works? Any legal eagles out there can tell me about this or if there is an alternative recourse?

I need someone who is not just preprogrammed by the system but someone who has tried it.
 Quoting: BrokeAC 106184


There is a lot of good information here. Some of the info is not so good and dead links. If you decide to the info you get, it will take at lease 6 months to put it together before you will be able to appear before anyone.

As an alternative to this mess. You Stated that you are broke, file IRS form 433a. Be honest, because they will check. If they deny your request, you can appeal. When all is done and the IRS accepts the 433a, you will be demean uncollectible and the IRS will not bother you for at least 2 years. During this time get informed and if possible, file bankrupsty and include the IRS debt.

They can be beat if you know how. I've have done it twice and have paid them nothing in the last 15 years.

Good Luck

Heyoka
Thinking of Getting a Trust or Creating a Will. Don't until you read this! [link to passingbucks.com]

You know we live in the dark days of history when the common people fear their government more than criminals! FCO 06/14/2005
seekingthetruth
User ID: 587165
1/6/2009 8:38 AM
Re: HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?Quote

Here is an interesting segment that was on CNN....

CNN...tells banksters to produce the original note!!!

[link to uk.youtube.com]

also you may click the following link for more useful info about fighting back against the mortg corps etc....
[link to www.consumerwarningnetwork.com]
 Quoting: pro se 466212


Here's something else on the subject of original notes. Don't know if it has been posted here before but the information looks useful so here goes.

[link to void-judgments.com]
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