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HELP! Legal Straw Man and Sovereignty UCC-1 theory valid?

 
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What is your take? I considered making a payment by check and writing in the memo line "payment made under coercion and duress" just to buy some time. Thoughts?
Thanks for all you do!
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DO NOT MAKE ANY PAYMENT! IF YOU DO, IT WILL BE USED AS EVIDENCE AGAINST YOU TO VALIDATE THE DEBT.
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OK, I see from their latest letter that is what they are trying to do. They are making reference to some payments made on this account and another.
Shibumi2 if you are still out there...would like to get some specific feedback. If you like you can email for more details: Pitcherzmom<at>msn<dot>com.
Thanks...
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I will have the documents posted shortly. THey are a master promissary note. Thank you for your help!


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Hi Shibumi2,

The master promissary notes are enclosed above. Thanks a lot for your time. These are all the notes that I possess.


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[Greetings Shibumi2,

I have a somewhat difficult situation. Currently I have student loans that are federal but are being managed by New Mexico Student Loan Corporation (a non-profit). I am not sure if they managed or if they were purchased by them. They are for $45K. Yes I know it’s a lot. The repayment date starts in 2011. Will the process change of asking them to inspect the original note work as well. I am currently paying the Perkins student loans ($7k) in addition to the Direct Lending $18K (Federal Government). Would it be possible to ask for the original note as well? If they are not able to provide it then how would I proceed into eliminating the debt? Also I have a Citibank student loan of $3,400. Would it be possible to eliminate that one as well even thou I am paying on it now?

If I would have known how fraudulent of financial system was I would have used a different route for paying for school. Interest rates in the United States have been artificially low for 25 years which drives up inflation which is eliminating the middle class and keeping poor people financially stagnant. Now that I learned about it after the fact I don’t want to be an indentured servant all my life. Thank you for all for your knowledge and wisdom.

itillc


Hi...just saw your post. If you're still around I would be interested in helping you. The student loan is a little more involved because the debt is with an agency of the US government. At the same time, it is a commercial debt and subject to some of the same laws. You may have noticed a few days ago the Kansas supreme court handed MERS a crushing defeat regarding their standing to bring eviction notices. While that case isn't directly applicable to your case, I think it demonstrates that many of the so called standard procedures accepted by most lower courts are fraudulent but that those defrauded don't have the time, money or resources to fight to the supreme court level.

Here's the deal. It is a MAXIM of law that in order to pursue collections of a debt, the ORIGINAL note is required. No matter what anyone tells you, its the LAW. I can guarantee that any note you signed is long gone, and so are the rights to bring suit.

Many attorneys will file an affidavit attesting to the fact that the original is "lost". This has gone on for years and in actuality has been successfully fought against..not to mention that on the face of it it is a lie. The doc isn't lost in the sense that it was misplaced...it was bundled and SOLD. Therein lies the difference.

So I would attack it the same way as the debt collections initially but probably will have to change strategies as I presume it will ultimately come to court. However, I am convinced they cannot prevail. At the same time, I would have to read the entire contract you signed because that will be the controlling document. Most people don't understand that we are all free to contract...it is the second most important right next to private property ownership. SO if you signed something that stripped you of the right to sue, for example, we will need to deal with that. The good news is that these agreements are CONTRACTS OF ADHESION, which makes them easier to attack. A COA is different than a real contract in that with a COA, one party writes and controls all the language. Technically, in a COA the lending party cannot even bring suit. Their remedy is limited to a cessation of services and/or a repo if it is real property. Since you are talking about an educational grant, about all they could do to recover their educational investment would be to deprive you of it via a swine flu shot (just kidding, sort of).

If you want to go forward, let me know and scan your docs so I can review. Make sure to black out all of your personal information and numbers before sending.
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ok. let me take a look at them. I will be traveling for a few days but will respond back to you.

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Hey, Look at page 13 of 17 of the Citi and Fed note. It lists three arbitration companies they demand be used. Google them and see if they are subject to any actions by the Attorney General in their domiciled state (ie where they are registered to do business). Some of them have been shut down because they are a fraudulent operation and it will be good to have that info.
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Hi S2,

Both National Arbitration Forum based out of Minnesota and American Arbitration Association appearly as of July of 2009 are no longer dealing with consumer issues. Here is an article by NPR:
[link to www.npr.org] In this article it explains the on why they are not accepting consumer complaints. To sum it up they were busted on making backdoor deals with credit card companies. I will check the last of the three to see thier status. Thank you for your timely reply.

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Hey, Look at page 13 of 17 of the Citi and Fed note. It lists three arbitration companies they demand be used. Google them and see if they are subject to any actions by the Attorney General in their domiciled state (ie where they are registered to do business). Some of them have been shut down because they are a fraudulent operation and it will be good to have that info.
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I am also looking into HR 1020 Arbitration Fairness Act as well to see the status of the newest bill to instill on the sheeple...baaa






Hi S2,

Both National Arbitration Forum based out of Minnesota and American Arbitration Association appearly as of July of 2009 are no longer dealing with consumer issues. Here is an article by NPR:
[link to www.npr.org] In this article it explains the on why they are not accepting consumer complaints. To sum it up they were busted on making backdoor deals with credit card companies. I will check the last of the three to see thier status. Thank you for your timely reply.

itillc





Hey, Look at page 13 of 17 of the Citi and Fed note. It lists three arbitration companies they demand be used. Google them and see if they are subject to any actions by the Attorney General in their domiciled state (ie where they are registered to do business). Some of them have been shut down because they are a fraudulent operation and it will be good to have that info.

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Check this letter out. Appearantly Citibank pulled the contract on JAMS. Not sure if its credible as of yet. Below is a letter being submitted to JAMS to state "forced arbitration is unfair and needs reform." Let me know what you think. Have a safe day of traveling.


[link to www.citizen.org]
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yeah, I had heard that one of the arbitration places was shut down by the attorney generals office in Minnesota. Glad to see it FINALLY...they were scams run by the credit card companies. it sickens me that these scum are still operating.

anyway, the first pass says that either party may elect to use the arbitration clause. i need to read it more closely, but that looks promising. Find out as much as you can on those arbitration outfits...and gather as much info on their corrupt behavior as possible. You may be able to contact the attorney generals office in MN and get more info.

these debt collectors and arbitrators are criminals. its impossible to calculate the financial damage and worry/stress these people have caused to others. sick

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Check this letter out. Appearantly Citibank pulled the contract on JAMS. Not sure if its credible as of yet. Below is a letter being submitted to JAMS to state "forced arbitration is unfair and needs reform." Let me know what you think. Have a safe day of traveling.


[link to www.citizen.org]
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forced arbitration isn't LAWFUL in a contract of adhesion, which is what you have.

your contract uses the word MAY which softens it up a bit. If the word had been shall, the contract isn't valid. You have to have an opt out option for arbitration in a contract of adhesion.

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Okay once I gather the materials and contact the MN General Attorneys office today.
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Hi S2,

I just read your letter that you sent to Dewey, Cheatum and Howe PC back in 2006. I have a couple carpet baggers trying to pry money out of me as well. One is for traffic tickets which were sent to a collection agency. They were simple parking tickets! Man these guys will do anything for a dollar. Do you have any suggestions on how to tell the court it is administrative not civil or criminal offense? I will look the arbitration info in regards to Citibank student loans this evening. Thank you. I will send you here a bulletion on how money is created. It will make you mad when you read it. I assume you already know but there might be a few things not everyone knows. Thanks again!
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HOW THE FED MAKES ITS MONEY

One might ask is it reasonable to use fascism and the Federal Reserve System in the same sentence. Before addressing whether the Federal Reserve System has fascist tendencies or not; we should address how money is created. For example: Congress asks for more money while cutting taxes and conducting 2 wars simultaneously plus bailing out dozens of various entities. This process of acquiring money goes to the US Treasury. The US Treasury which has only a few weeks of cash on hand at most will print Treasury Bills to be auctioned which are usually purchased by large banks from China and Japan. The lender (usually China or Japan) will purchase the bond at face value plus earn a specified interest rate. The money from the lender is sent to the Treasury in which is dispersed to various government agencies. The following example above is an example of money that already exists in the system. Now that large banks (lenders) do not have sufficient monies to purchase the Treasury Bills the Federal Reserve comes into play to off-set this imbalance. The FED will purchase a note from the bank (monetizing the debt) by simply transferring the total amount of the face value of the bond and take possession of the bond. A bond for a swap of money. Where does the FED acquire this money to purchase this debt? It is created out of thin air. This is proof to show “all dollars are loaned into existence”. A publication put out by the Federal Reserve (Boston) titled “Putting it Simply” States the following: “When you or I write a check there must be sufficient funds in our account to cover the check but when the Federal Reserve writes a check there is no bank deposit on which that check is drawn. When the Federal Reserve writes a check it is creating money”. By allowing the FED to print as much money as it pleases plus charging an interest rate to the government (taxpayers) is an enormous power. There are only two ways to create money the first one is the example above the other is known as fractionalized banking. A quick example of this is take a $1000 deposit and be able to loan it out over a period to equaling $10,000 keeping in mind the bank fulfills the 10% allocated reserve funds but the example doesn’t factor interest on those funds. This can quite simply be put as “all dollars are backed by debt” At the local banking level all new dollars from loans are created into existence. At the Federal Reserve level all new money is simply manufactured i.e. digitalized on a computer and traded for interest accruing bonds. Another way to look at it is each and every year enough new money must be loaned into existence to cover the interest payments on all the past outstanding debt. It’s an exponential system by its very nature. There will always be more debt than dollars available to pay off the debt. Anyone who says we need to work to pay off the debt doesn’t know what they are talking about. By its very design you can’t pay off the debt. As I stated already by its very nature it’s designed to be an exponential function. Perpetual growth is a requirement of modern banking. Without the creation of new money each year the interest payments to the FED would not be able to be fulfilled and defaults would quickly ripple through the system.
It's beyond my understanding why the treasury doesn't issue the money directly without being forced to pay interest to a cartel of private banks that are being deliberately hidden by the Fed. A group of private people, abhorrent leeches get colossal amounts of moneyfor nothing. If you don’t believe me what I am stating regarding the Federal Reserve System by its very nature is designed to remove wealth from the citizens of the country I will be more than happy to provide you with the documentation of what I stated above. Here are some questions that are rarely asked by any government official: Why hasn’t since the Federal Reserve’s inception had an audit? Why is it that they can give trillion dollar loans with no accountability and we pay the interest on those loans? Please see video below:
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Here’s a famous quote about the largest tax we have. The monitery policy we have today is what cause the latter (inflation).

"But who can say how much is endurable, or in what direction men will
seek at last to escape from their misfortunes?"
"Lenin is said to have declared that the best way to destroy the Capitalist
System was to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation,
governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of
the wealth of their citizens. By this method they not only confiscate, but
they confiscate arbitrarily; and, while the process impoverishes many, it
actually enriches some. . . . As the inflation proceeds and the real value of
the currency fluctuates wildly from month to month, all permanent
relations between debtors and creditors, which form the ultimate
foundation of capitalism, become so utterly disordered as to be almost
meaningless; and the process of wealth-getting degenerates into a gamble
and a lottery. "Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of
overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency.
The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of
destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is
able to diagnose."

John Maynard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace (p. 235-6): 1920
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I wrote that to a ignorant professor.
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Hi S2,

I just read your letter that you sent to Dewey, Cheatum and Howe PC back in 2006. I have a couple carpet baggers trying to pry money out of me as well. One is for traffic tickets which were sent to a collection agency. They were simple parking tickets! Man these guys will do anything for a dollar. Do you have any suggestions on how to tell the court it is administrative not civil or criminal offense? I will look the arbitration info in regards to Citibank student loans this evening. Thank you. I will send you here a bulletion on how money is created. It will make you mad when you read it. I assume you already know but there might be a few things not everyone knows. Thanks again!
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Are you receiving dunning letters from a collection agency, or did you get something from the court? If it's a dunning letter, follow the examples I posted earlier in the thread. Basically you are telling them to PROVE the debt, and clarifying what their standing is in the matter to pursue this with you. Obviously, you signed no contract regarding the parking ticket so that is a dead end (for them). They won't be able to prove that they are a party to the action so they will send you a statement, copy of some paperwork, whatever they have.

Essentially your position is, since they are demanding money from you, to PROVE IT. Whatever they send you isn't going to pass muster in any court of law and they know that.

Be careful that you don't use phrases such as "stop calling me". That allows them to bypass the validation step (at least temporarily) and you don't want to let them off the hook. Just tell them to send original documentation to prove you owe money.

I've never seen a collection action for parking infractions. They must be desperate. I'll do some reading and see if there is something else you need to be aware of.
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It is from this company below. I have not received a letter as of yet.

Municipal Services Bureau
(512) 371-9995
6505 Airport Blvd Ste 100
Austin, TX 78752

I will start reading up one the arbitration JAMS to see if they are Citi's arbitatator anymore.
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I called Citi and asked to see which arbitrators are currently being used and the sales rep didnt understand what it meant. I will call again today to get a complete answer from someone who knows.
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Hi Shibumi2,

I have been looking for the arbitrators for Citi and there are no updates that I am aware of any new replacements after 2 of the 3 are not being used by Citi anymore. Under contract would I then be forced to only use JAMS? I think I mentioned this already to you...sorry for repeating if I have: JAMS may not be used by Citi any longer. Citi has not been very helpful with me in obtaining information on the legal status of JAMS. On a side note...I have constructed the letter to mail them to the 3 party debt collectors. When I mail them I just send them certified and that should take care of it right? Thank you once again for your help.




yeah, I had heard that one of the arbitration places was shut down by the attorney generals office in Minnesota. Glad to see it FINALLY...they were scams run by the credit card companies. it sickens me that these scum are still operating.

anyway, the first pass says that either party may elect to use the arbitration clause. i need to read it more closely, but that looks promising. Find out as much as you can on those arbitration outfits...and gather as much info on their corrupt behavior as possible. You may be able to contact the attorney generals office in MN and get more info.

these debt collectors and arbitrators are criminals. its impossible to calculate the financial damage and worry/stress these people have caused to others. sick

shibumi2
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S2,

Are you still around? I have other documents to show you related to the student loans.
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STAFFORD STUDENT LOANS PURCHASED BY DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION

In addition to receiving housing information and their class schedules, students heading back to campus this fall should look out for one more crucial piece of mail this summer.

Beginning July 1, the majority of families who hold federal Stafford, Grad PLUS or Parent PLUS loans will receive notices that their loans have been bought by the Department of Education, says Sam Nelson, director of client relations for the Illinois Student Assistance Commission.

"To help lenders stay in the student loan market, the federal government is buying on the secondary market and servicing the loans themselves," says Nelson. "Six out of every 10 student loan dollars are now made with federal money instead of with private capital."

Although the change is no cause for alarm, students should be aware that the switch in loan servicers could affect certain borrower incentives and will affect where payments should be sent. Here's what to do if the federal government scoops up your student loan.

Consider your incentives
"Having your student loan purchased by the Department of Education doesn't really change much for the student borrower," says Jason Delisle, director of the federal education budget project at the New America Foundation, a think tank in Washington, D.C. "The terms and conditions of the loan are already spelled out by the federal government. They won't change at all. The only thing that changes is who's servicing the loan."

Delisle adds that while interest rates, loan limits, fees, repayment conditions and default options will stay the same for new loans and old ones currently in repayment, borrowers who took out student loans before the Department of Education started purchasing them in 2007 could lose certain borrower incentives.

"Before 2007, when the Department of Education started buying loans under ECASLA (Ensuring Continued Access to Student Loans Act), lenders offered certain discounts. For example, you might get a fee waiver before you start payments, or you might get 2 percent off of your remaining principal after making two years of consecutive payments," says Mark Kantrowitz, publisher of the financial aid Web site Finaid.org. "When ECASLA took effect, lenders who wanted their loans to be purchased by the Department of Education had to stop offering almost all of those incentives."

Most large student lenders -- including Wachovia, JPMorgan Chase, KeyBank, Edamerica and the National Education Loan Network, or Nelnet -- switched to the ECASLA program and dropped all borrower incentives except one: ECASLA gives borrowers who set up automatic payments on their accounts a 0.25 percent interest rate reduction.

A few lenders, such as Wells Fargo, service loans outside the ECASLA program and still offer a broad range of incentives. Although students who took out loans before 2007 with lenders who switched to ECASLA have already lost their incentives, those who have stuck with non-ECASLA lenders could lose their current incentives if they consolidate non-ECASLA loans with those sold to the Department of Education.

"That means that if you received any front-end discounts, like a cash principal reduction after you graduated, you could get a letter saying, 'Please pay that back,'" says Kantrowitz. "It may be worthwhile to keep a loan out of consolidation just to keep the discounts."

To figure out if consolidation will mean losing lucrative benefits, Kantrowitz recommends that students considering consolidation ask their lenders about benefit loss before combining loans.

Stay in contact
On top of consolidation woes, a change in loan servicers could also affect where and when students should send in payments.

"The biggest thing borrowers need to know if their loan is sold is that they may need to send payments to a different address and to notify the new servicer if they move," says Nelson. "One of the easiest ways that students end up in default is that the mail never gets to them because the student never tells them where they're moving. If a borrower wants to be proactive, stay on top of that issue."

Sending payments to a different address is no big deal for borrowers whose loans were all bought by the Department of Education. However, borrowers who hold multiple loans, some dating prior to 2007, may find that some of their loans have been bought under ECASLA and others haven't. In that case, students may need to send payments to two different loan-servicing agencies.

To ensure that they're on top of payments, students should contact their lenders as soon as possible to verify where to send payments and to which servicers, especially if multiple lenders are involved, says Frank Gittens, CEO and co-founder of Advance Your Institution, a Goodyear, Ariz., company that provides liquidity for school-sponsored student loans.

"If I have a Bank of America loan from last year and a Citibank from this year and both entities are selling to the Department (of Education), I would call and ask, 'How is that going to get reconciled when it comes to paying back my loans?'" says Gittens. "Are they going to combine payments? If not, I'd think about consolidating those loans. When you graduate, you're not going to want several different bills to pay."

Students can bypass the change-of-address problem and save a little on interest by enrolling in an automatic payment system that directly withdraws from a bank account each month. Students and parents can also pay loans online at www.dl.ed.gov.
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SHIBUMI2,

Citibank refuses to tell me the arbitrators they now use. What can I "lawfully" do to ask them prove whether they have the original note? Also I sent the letter template you made and those parasites havent contacted me again about the parking tickets; all thanks to you. A victory! Have you thought of an idea to take on the Federal government regarding the federal government student loans? I know since I am dealing with the federal government I have more at stake in dealing with the commerical debt. Thanks!



dude. I think i responded to your issue earlier.

what you will find is that the so called "loan" was sold by the bank to either a mortgage company or sent to the Federal Reserve directly.

the only thing you need to do is insist on inspecting the ORIGINAL NOTE!

Go ahead...tell them you will pay off the amount due, but you want to inspect the original note!

they won't be able to produce it!

guess what, no note..no debt.

i've used it at least 6 times on debt collection scumbags and it's worked every time.

fuck them and their bogus papers.

forget the strawman bullshit. it's true to a degree, but its so convoluted no one has ever made it work.

NO NOTE NO DEBT. that is well rooted in commercial law, but people are too stupid to get it.

and fuck those people that say it can't be done.

and OP....you didn't pay a cent for this info.
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Hey I just recieved a seatbelt ticket yesterday for 126 dollars, the officer didnt make me sign this ticket, is there anyway of not paying this ticket? Can someone please help?

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Thread: I Do Not Consent

Yes just remember traffic tickets are an administrative offense, NOT a civil or criminal offense. Watch a couple of the videos from the thread I posted from GLP "I do not consent." Also Youtube the Anti terrorist "standing in court" and the police videos. They guy is from the UK but they created the common law system that we have so most of it applies to us as well.




Hey I just recieved a seatbelt ticket yesterday for 126 dollars, the officer didnt make me sign this ticket, is there anyway of not paying this ticket? Can someone please help?

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Hey I just recieved a seatbelt ticket yesterday for 126 dollars, the officer didnt make me sign this ticket, is there anyway of not paying this ticket? Can someone please help?

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There is a guy in Canada who goes by the nickname Syn with you tube videos. He cashed his speeding ticket at the bank with the Bills of Exchange Act. The police came, he informed them of their full commercial liability when violating a parliamentary act and they ran out of the bank. The manager finally relented and gave him the cash.

The ticket is a bill of exchange, a negotiable instrument.
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That is freakin awesome!! banana2



Hey I just recieved a seatbelt ticket yesterday for 126 dollars, the officer didnt make me sign this ticket, is there anyway of not paying this ticket? Can someone please help?

This is for entertainment purposes only

There is a guy in Canada who goes by the nickname Syn with you tube videos. He cashed his speeding ticket at the bank with the Bills of Exchange Act. The police came, he informed them of their full commercial liability when violating a parliamentary act and they ran out of the bank. The manager finally relented and gave him the cash.

The ticket is a bill of exchange, a negotiable instrument.
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Hey, can show me how to file the proper tax forms in order regain redemption from student loans?

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Hey, can show me how to file the proper tax forms in order regain redemption from student loans?

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I would also like to know!!
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I have heard of this stuff to really work, I have seen actually proof with my own eyes

Another question, after you gain control of your strawman, will you be able to work in the united states?
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Hi Anonymous Coward 810959,

Would it be possible to show it works or at the very least give a description on the process of someonw you know made it work? Thanks!



I have heard of this stuff to really work, I have seen actually proof with my own eyes

Another question, after you gain control of your strawman, will you be able to work in the united states?
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11/09/2009 05:22 PM
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I wrote on the other thread regarding the Healthcare and you could challenge it. This is also a part of that process however I will clear up the name business and why you don't need to copyright it to prove you are a man, not a corpoation.

on the name I found this which will help explain the nature of what i mean a little better
[link to www.detaxcanada.org]
"Example: If your given names were 'John Henry', and your family name is 'Doe', then you would be 'John-Henry' of the 'Doe' family. 'John Henry Doe', regardless in which case the name is spelled or if the family name is first, is the name of the State created and owned 'legal identity'."

now for contracts .. combine with this

[link to www.ehow.com]
Regarding Contracts ... How to Use a DBA (Doing Business As)
"A DBA enables you to brand the name of your business rather than your personal name. You can get bank accounts in the DBA business's name as well as utilities, such as telephone contracts."

That will seperate yourself from "it" and now someone must be injured in order to bring suit on you (no victimless crimes)

However ... if you have a bunch of contracts out this is not prticable cause it could severaly hurt your chances of keeping attaing those service or getting newone if you don't know what you are doing.

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