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If You Do Not Believe In The Rapture...

 
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If You Do Not Believe In The Rapture...
you do not understand the purpose of The Tribulation

and you do not understand the different roles and purposes of The Church and Israel.
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The Purpose of the Great Tribulation

The purpose of this ordeal, the Time of Jacobs Trouble, is to drive Israel en extremis, to return to God: I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me earnestly (Hosea 5:15). Interesting Old Testament passage: God says, I will go and return to my place To return, He must have left it! Watch those untils in the text: they often denote significant milestones. The term offence is singular and specific. Apparently, a prerequisite condition for the Second Coming of Christ is for Israel to acknowledge her Messiah and to petition His return. (This would help explain why Satan continues to be so intensely committed to the Jews destruction.)

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"The National Regeneration of Israel: Israels required confession (Lev 26:40-42; Jer 3:11-18; Hos 5:15) and pe-titioning the Messiah (Zech 12:10) inaugurates the final three days of the campaign with pleading and petition (Hos 6:1-3; Isa 53:1-9), fulfilling Romans 11:25-27 (see also Zech 12:10-13:9; Joel 2:28-32; Isa 64:1-12; Ezek 20:33f; Ps 79:1-13; 80:1-19). When the faithful remnant petitions Jesus to return, He comes to rescue them."

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You know that literally no one on here believes anything buy bull bangers say, right?
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Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.

I'd like to go quietly in my sleep, like grandpa did. Not screaming in terror like the people in the back seat of the car he was driving.
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chuckle
"Don't tell me truth hurts, little girl, 'cause it hurts like hell. --David Bowie
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Re: If You Do Not Believe In The Rapture...
you do not understand the purpose of The Tribulation

and you do not understand the different roles and purposes of The Church and Israel.
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The Purpose of the Great Tribulation

The purpose of this ordeal, the Time of Jacobs Trouble, is to drive Israel en extremis, to return to God: I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me earnestly (Hosea 5:15).

Interesting Old Testament passage: God says, I will go and return to my place To return, He must have left it! Watch those untils in the text: they often denote significant milestones. The term offence is singular and specific. Apparently, a prerequisite condition for the Second Coming of Christ is for Israel to acknowledge her Messiah and to petition His return. (This would help explain why Satan continues to be so intensely committed to the Jews destruction.)

[link to www.khouse.org]
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The Purpose of the Great Tribulation

The purpose of this ordeal, the Time of Jacobs Trouble, is to drive Israel en extremis, to return to God: I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me earnestly (Hosea 5:15). Interesting Old Testament passage: God says, I will go and return to my place To return, He must have left it! Watch those untils in the text: they often denote significant milestones. The term offence is singular and specific. Apparently, a prerequisite condition for the Second Coming of Christ is for Israel to acknowledge her Messiah and to petition His return. (This would help explain why Satan continues to be so intensely committed to the Jews destruction.)

[link to www.khouse.org]
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Any "god" that uses force to get followers is a demented, deranged, psychopathic monster.
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If you do not believe in the Rapture...
I think that you probably do not understand the purpose of The Tribulation
and you do not understand the different roles and purposes of The Church and Israel.

If you do not believe in the Rapture,
please tell us what you think the purpose of the Tribulation is
and explain the different roles of the Church and Israel.
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Unfortunately you don't quite understand who the house of Israel is yet to rightly divide the Word of God. You could know now, but not while following your own hearts and holding on to the traditions and precepts of men.

Keep on espousing rapture doctrines and you will come to know the hard way. We all will be judged by what we teach. Judgment includes either rewards having been faithful to the doctrine of Christ or punishment.



Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
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Ezekiel 13

You ought to read it and pay very close attention

Isaiah 29 speaks to those who spread false doctrines of fly away too.. you might read it carefully some time.



Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
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Ezekiel 13

You ought to read it and pay very close attention

Isaiah 29 speaks to those who spread false doctrines of fly away too.. you might read it carefully some time.



Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
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you do not understand the purpose of The Tribulation

and you do not understand the different roles and purposes of The Church and Israel.
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There is only one saved group and it is (spiritual) Israel.

You must be born again in Christ to be saved.

It is about the spirit now, not the flesh.

Remember.... Jesus said "It is finished".

There ain't no rapture!!!
J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil.

Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves.
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Your information appears to be correct.

I just noticed one thing:

"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a na-tion even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. - Daniel 12:1

Note too, that although it is worldwide, the focus is on Israel:

Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacobs trouble; but he shall be saved out of it. - Jeremiah 30:7"

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Could this be Ebola... and could it be that Jews are genetically immune?

That would account for everyone getting hit with Death except for the Jewish line.

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Not only that but...

Why construct bombs and bullets when the Jews (Israel) who are some of the best genetic engineers in the world, could construct a plague that didn't affect their genetics and just release that into the Arab horde. Much more effective.
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Unfortunately you don't quite understand who the house of Israel is yet to rightly divide the Word of God. You could know now, but not while following your own hearts and holding on to the traditions and precepts of men.

Keep on espousing rapture doctrines and you will come to know the hard way. We all will be judged by what we teach. Judgment includes either rewards having been faithful to the doctrine of Christ or punishment.


Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
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What do YOU say is the purpose of the Tribulation
and how do YOU say it applies to the Church and Israel?
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you do not understand the purpose of The Tribulation

and you do not understand the different roles and purposes of The Church and Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62416233

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62416233

There is only one saved group and it is (spiritual) Israel.
You must be born again in Christ to be saved.
It is about the spirit now, not the flesh.
Remember.... Jesus said "It is finished".
There ain't no rapture!!!
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What do YOU say is the purpose of the Tribulation
and how do YOU say it applies to the Church and Israel?
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You know that literally no one on here believes anything buy bull bangers say, right?
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false
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bump for later
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If you do not believe in "the Rapture",
I think that you probably do not understand the purpose of The Tribulation
and do not understand the different roles and purposes of The Church and Israel.

If you do not believe in the Rapture,
please tell us what you think the purpose of the Tribulation is
and explain the different roles and purposes of the Church and Israel.


Here, let's make it easier to see if any can answer;

Any of the many of you that always attack and deny the Rapture,

What do you think is the purpose of the Tribulation?


The truth is, I doubt that one of you have thought that far...
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Do you think you have it all figured out

but you don't even know what it's all really about?!
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"I will protect you from the hour of trial coming upon the whole earth..". The Lord will protect those who God has given to Him.
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So.

There is no commandment to "understand" the rapture or tribulation.

Are you trying to pick a fight?

I'm pretty sure as long as followers of Jesus believe in him and treat others as they treat themselves, He could care less about the general layman understanding random prophecies.
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The time of Jacob's (Israel's) trouble is for Israel's faithlessness to God and the Lord Jesus. Those that are Christ's will be protected as it states in Revelation 3.
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OP, brother;

You are onto a conception that many churches do not touch. Do you feel compelled to make Alyah as a Gentile? Or does Zechariah 14 or Daniel 13 make you think there will be Tribulation Saints? Where should they flow to? The mountains of Judah? The mark of the beast will be upon us soon. Did He not say to not return to your own houses, or the blessed of the LORD dwelleth in tents? Of course, there is I Thessalonians 4 and we are to encourage each other with these words; as it says at the end of the chapter.

Truth is, what I have gleaned (and it is not a popular version of the vision) is that the church does go through part of the Tribulation.
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Re: If You Do Not Believe In The Rapture...
you do not understand the purpose of The Tribulation

and you do not understand the different roles and purposes of The Church and Israel.
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100% wrong. An evil and wicket generation asks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah.
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Re: If You Do Not Believe In The Rapture...
you do not understand the purpose of The Tribulation

and you do not understand the different roles and purposes of The Church and Israel.
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Rapture...stupidest shit ever

there is no God, no special place for you after death.

religions are nothing more than the creations of men, there have been hundreds and hundreds of gods worshiped by mankind...and EVERY one of them cease to exist as soon as no ignorant man is left to believe in them.

The bible is nothing more than words of ignorant ancient people that believed stupid shit like the earth is flat and held in place by pillars of salt.

why would anyone want to believe in ancient shit written by people so stupid they were afraid of rain?

evolve already.
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Just get raptured ALREADY, idiots.
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Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is the LORD. To the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness...
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If you do not believe in "the Rapture",
I think that you probably do not understand the purpose of The Tribulation
and do not understand the different roles and purposes of The Church and Israel.

If you do not believe in the Rapture,
please tell us what you think the purpose of the Tribulation is
and explain the different roles and purposes of the Church and Israel.


Here, let's make it easier to see if any can answer;

Any of the many of you that always attack and deny the Rapture,

What do you think is the purpose of the Tribulation?



The truth is, I doubt that one of you have thought that far...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62416233





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