How bad will England be screwed when Scotland declares independence? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15478766 United Kingdom 09/16/2014 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's why this will be a 75% YES VOTE people who live in an Area of Scotland with YES BANNERS in the windows YOUR NOT GOING TO PUT A NO BANNER IN YOUR WINDOW. So people singing YES might well be a NO. That's why the YES vote will fail. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57654586 United Kingdom 09/16/2014 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pretty quick I would imagine. Statistics show that scotland could be the 4th richest 7th richest country in the world if it became independent (the UK is 17th) Scotland despite only havin 8% of the uk's population is accountable for: 32% of the uks land, 92% of it's fresh water, 64% forest area, 65% gas production, 97% of crude oil production, 45% open coal cast production, 65% of untapped coal reserves, 92% renewable hydro electric energy, 60% of fish landing and 30% of beef herding, not to mention 100% of the scotch whiskey production! Scotland has 25% of European wave and wind energy potential for future green investment (an independent scotland aims to be fossil fuel free) by 2020. The Clair oil field has not been discovered and is estimated to be worth some 600 billion barrels of oil. In the last 2 years Scotland's North Sea saw 13.5 billion in investment alone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62900072 In 2011/2012 the treasury took an extra £60BILLION from Scotland in oil and gas generated revenues (compared to the rest of the uk) Scotland also receives less in public spending than it pays in taxes, even if Scotland is in deficit it is given a loan from the Uk to break even at the end of the year, a loan which must be paid back with interest. Scotland has been economic guinea pig of things like the poll and bedroom tax. Since the highland clearances the English have used scotland as refuge, the sat in those beautiful old castles, killed our deer, fished out salmon. They duped the scots into the Darien scheme and so the 1707 union of the crown and since then Scotlands wealth has been used to prop up west ministers illegal wars, creative accounting practices, mps second homes. The uk has the lowest pension rates in Europe, the highest rate of fuel poverty in Europe, longest working hours. No to mention that the river Clyde, which runs through the central belt (Scotland's most densley populated area) has been chosen as the home for the uk's nuclear submarine arsenal because "it's a lesser risk to the population there" Scotland have had a raw deal since the union of the crowns and has been used to financially back almost everything Westminster, a free scotland would be a very rich scotland indeed. Think of the new special relationship between an oil rich scotland and the states haha As for what part of the empire queen lizzy and the eton boys lose next? The rumor is that some northern english folks want the old borders restored so berwick and Newcastle are again part of Scotland. Hard to take seriously from someone who can't even spell whisky correctly. I'm dyslexic.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56681215 United States 09/16/2014 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...also I find it strange that people are offensive about Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14330370 the Queen who is by blood half Scottish. Strange? She who gives her grandsons £10 million helicopters for their birthdays, or a £4 million refit of the private apartments at Kensington Palace (Kate & Will) in preparation for the new baby arrival - from the PUBLIC PURSE? She who authorises payments of £762,000 per year to the Duke of Westminster for simply owning a Scottish Estate (again, from the public purse..) She who gave herself a £5 million pay rise this year in the middle of so-called austerity measures?? FIRE THE LOT OF THEM! Except "SHE" makes none of those decisions. Kensington Palace belongs to the Crown Estate, which is in turn owned by the British Government and not the Queen. The Queen is paid a Sovereign Grant out of the profits from the Crown Estate. The reason she got a "pay rise" is because the Crown Estate made more profit, of which she takes a percentage (and then pays tax on that). They still contribute far more to the economy than they take. The helicopter is for use on official engagements - it's not a personal toy. Don't you just love all these 'experts' on the UK, who've probably never set foot there, nor know a scooby about the reality. Plus the one going on about how the English stole the Scots' oil revenue money and that they get less than they pay out. Bull-fucking-shit! The Sots get three times more per head than people in the north of England. They get BILLIONS from the English taxpayers every year, so the amount "they wuz robbed" of doesn't even cover one year's payments! well then obviously england can't wait to get rid of those freeloaders! all they are doing is costing money. worthless freeloaders. same as the fakeland islands with all the freeloading pedophile penguins. thanks for clearing that up for us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62580916 United States 09/16/2014 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think they are destined to break. And it is just what England needs to get their heads out of their asses instead of trying import the entire middle east to London. Why do the British hate themselves sooooooo much? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3693500 Ireland 09/16/2014 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62899502 Strange? She who gives her grandsons £10 million helicopters for their birthdays, or a £4 million refit of the private apartments at Kensington Palace (Kate & Will) in preparation for the new baby arrival - from the PUBLIC PURSE? She who authorises payments of £762,000 per year to the Duke of Westminster for simply owning a Scottish Estate (again, from the public purse..) She who gave herself a £5 million pay rise this year in the middle of so-called austerity measures?? FIRE THE LOT OF THEM! Except "SHE" makes none of those decisions. Kensington Palace belongs to the Crown Estate, which is in turn owned by the British Government and not the Queen. The Queen is paid a Sovereign Grant out of the profits from the Crown Estate. The reason she got a "pay rise" is because the Crown Estate made more profit, of which she takes a percentage (and then pays tax on that). They still contribute far more to the economy than they take. The helicopter is for use on official engagements - it's not a personal toy. Don't you just love all these 'experts' on the UK, who've probably never set foot there, nor know a scooby about the reality. Plus the one going on about how the English stole the Scots' oil revenue money and that they get less than they pay out. Bull-fucking-shit! The Sots get three times more per head than people in the north of England. They get BILLIONS from the English taxpayers every year, so the amount "they wuz robbed" of doesn't even cover one year's payments! So how many for the people in the South of England? The further north you get from the capital the worse it gets. Scotland's money goes into England end of story, some comes back but not nearly as much as we put fourth, look at English City Council spending compares to Scotland's City Council. Id like to see these billions that we receive yearly.. If that's true then the Scottish government is diddling funds and no doubt billions since it's yearly Id like to see your information sources if you wouldn't mind sharing I had a good site but forgot to save the damn thing! But here's what I can find for now - I'll keep looking for the better link: "David Cameron faces a “bloodbath” at the hands of Tory MPs after all three parties pledged to continue high levels of funding for Scotland if it rejects independence. Under the Barnett formula, devised in the 1970s by Labour Treasury minister Lord Barnett, spending is allocated according to population size, rather than the amount each country actually needs. Critics say this gives Scotland an unfair share of government spending and even Lord Barnett has called for it to be replaced. According to research at Stirling University, England loses around £4.5 billion of public spending every year because the money is handed to Scotland instead." [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] ... "For readers who'd rather not wade through the statistics: the answer is yes, Scotland does get a net subsidy.... The basic facts are that Scotland accounts for 8.4% of the UK population, 8.3% of the UK's total output and 8.3% of the UK's non-oil tax revenues - but 9.2% of total UK public spending. Scottish Executive figures for 2009-10 show that spending per capita in Scotland was £11,370, versus £10,320 for the UK. In other words, spending in Scotland was £1,030 - or 10% higher - per head of population than the UK average...." [link to www.bbc.com] |
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firinne User ID: 52431909 Ireland 09/16/2014 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Unionists are shittin a brick... Here is the websites you need to read if you really want to find out the truth... [link to www.businessforscotland.co.uk] [link to newsnetscotland.com] [link to wingsoverscotland.com] SAOR ALBA... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59238745 United Kingdom 09/16/2014 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | rUK will also suffer if there is a Yes vote. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57981712 Currently, UK current account deficit is ~ 4% GDP, remove Scotland and that rises to ~ 7.5% GDP Couple that with budget deficit around 7% (the dreaded twin deficits) and the long term outlook for rUK is unsustainable the fact that UK runs a large current account deficit at the bottom of the economic cycle means this position will get worse as the economy improves and grows Scotland will be in a world of shit too if it persists with the non starters of currency union / sterlingisation - it has to develop a new free floating currency with sufficient reserves and a current account surplus to finance its budget deficits despite all this, I hope they vote Yes, that shower of shite in westminster needs to go- let this be the catalyst ^THIS^ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62887068 Ireland 09/16/2014 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In 1919 70% of irish people voted for nationalist parties, still didn't get rid of the brits and look at the state of it now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40224551 Eh excuse me fucktard but we threw off your yoke and got our free state republic. Also, your nation is in quite the state too financially. How's londonstan these days? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62052520 Spain 09/16/2014 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From bedroom tax to privatization of nhs, most importantly to the sale of entire uk to Multinational corporations through TTIP treaty, entire uk is screwed. TTIP puts corporations ABOVE the power of law. Like, they will frack wherever they want, and if they poison your water or oil comes out under your house and it burns, you will not be able to sue them. That's one of the reasons scotland is getting out, and this is one reason why ENGLAND should also get out. [link to www.wdm.org.uk] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62052520 Spain 09/16/2014 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since i think its their doing. Im guessing they wont be screwed at all. Scotland will probably get screwed. Quoting: T-Man We already know they will get a huge increase in immigration. So we probably dont even need more bad news. lol US is entirely an immigrant nation. there is nothing wrong with immigration - it depends on WHO you are allowing to immigrate. And whether they are integrating. On the other hand, there is bedroom tax. people are being treated as if they were cash cows in their own country. today. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62052520 Spain 09/16/2014 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What percent of the UK military is Scottish? That to me seems a big deal. Seems like the Scots make up a majority of the UK armed forces. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61660170 its not a huge percentage in general armed forces, but they are a decent part of secret service apparently. but more importantly, scots do not want trident and its nuclear crap in scotland. they will kick it out. IRONICALLY, british government's report in the recent years had said that trident was TOO dangerous to locate to south. but its ok to keep it in scotland. so nuclear risk is ok for scots, but not english. things like this ended the union for scots. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62052520 Spain 09/16/2014 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.yesscotland.net] This is the blueprint the independence movement released for scottish armed forces btw. |
firinne User ID: 52431909 Ireland 09/16/2014 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What percent of the UK military is Scottish? That to me seems a big deal. Seems like the Scots make up a majority of the UK armed forces. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61660170 Scotland has only about 10% of the UK armed forces (roughly in line with population size). But the point is scotland will prob never be at war, just like its nearest neighbor Ireland who hasn,t been in one war in its 100 year history. |
firinne User ID: 52431909 Ireland 09/16/2014 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What percent of the UK military is Scottish? That to me seems a big deal. Seems like the Scots make up a majority of the UK armed forces. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61660170 its not a huge percentage in general armed forces, but they are a decent part of secret service apparently. but more importantly, scots do not want trident and its nuclear crap in scotland. they will kick it out. IRONICALLY, british government's report in the recent years had said that trident was TOO dangerous to locate to south. but its ok to keep it in scotland. so nuclear risk is ok for scots, but not english. things like this ended the union for scots. Trident is located just a few miles down the road from Scotlands largest population centre. (Glasgow) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62912379 United Kingdom 09/16/2014 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those three old politic regimes, it Britishness and it Royal fakeness will be more screwed than England. When losing Scotland to independent, there is no point having British flag. It good, can you not see all these rottenness things?, take a good look at Fracking, GMO etc... It time for real change and for real Democracy, not rotten greed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61660170 United States 09/16/2014 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What percent of the UK military is Scottish? That to me seems a big deal. Seems like the Scots make up a majority of the UK armed forces. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61660170 Scotland has only about 10% of the UK armed forces (roughly in line with population size). But the point is scotland will prob never be at war, just like its nearest neighbor Ireland who hasn,t been in one war in its 100 year history. Thought it was more than that. So it seems military man power won't reduce dramatically, yet as you said, Scotland will most likely choose not to engage in the wars of England and the U.S. Thanks for answering the question. Cheers |