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Are you IMMUNE to EBOLA or AIDS? You might be.

 
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Why do some people survive [EBOLA] infection?

Patients fare better with supportive care, including oral or intravenous rehydration that can buy time for the body to fight off infection. But studies on blood samples from patients during the 2000 outbreak of a different Ebola strain in Uganda have also identified genes and other markers that seem to be predictive of survival. Patients who recovered had higher levels of activated T cells in their blood and had certain variants of a gene that codes for surface proteins that white blood cells use to communicate. Earlier this year, researchers found a new association between survival and levels of sCD40L, a protein produced by platelets that could be part of the body’s attempt to repair damaged blood vessels. The authors note that markers like sCD40L could suggest new therapies that augment the repair mechanisms most important for survival.

[link to news.sciencemag.org]

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Statistically significant associations were found between certain sets of alleles and either fatal or nonfatal disease outcomes. Alleles B*67 and B*15 were associated with fatal outcomes, whereas B*07 and B*14 were associated with nonfatal outcomes. The PDA-derived functions that were produced were 81.8% accurate in classifying patients into their correct outcome group. Several epitopes predicted to bind strongly to HLA-B*07 molecules were identified in the viral polymerase, nucleoprotein, and VP35 protein.

more at ...

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

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This video is from the sixties and covers an outbreak in Korea affecting US personal.



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This is an old video from the nineties giving an up close and personal account of an outbreak.



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All born again and Spirit Filled Christians are immune to Ebola and to Aids whether they realize it or not!! Because the Holy Spirit is an anti-disease Spirit that God gives to those who believe in Him and are filled with His Holy Spirit. So while everybody else is dying in great agonies, those of us who serve and love and worship Jesus Christ will be free from every disease. And that includes, nuclear radiation!!
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Right! All those poor Christians who have died just "didn't have enough Holy Spirit" in them!!
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FUCKYA.. white people - kicking ass on diseases since the black fucking plague!
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some white people immune to the virus because white people created the damn fking virus!

fuckyeah5
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This is NOT funny. You are closer than you know.

The "elites" are Rh negative.
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Got anything on B13 and B39, OP?
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I remember reading a few years back that rh negative blood came from a mutation that occurred in the descendants of those who survived the Black Plague.
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NO, it goes back WAAAY further than that! Try Neanderthal.
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I read this entire thread, waiting to see someone state the obvious:

If the "black plague" of the Middle Ages was actually an Ebola-type outbreak - THAT NEGATES THE CHANCES OF THIS BEING BIO-ENGINEERED.

Just natural selection culling the herd from time to time.
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Yeah, that's why I am not buying it.

The black plague has characteristic BUBOES. There are no such buboes described in Ebola patients.
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I wonder if these protective genes relate to RH negative blood?

The first post's article, speaks of two copies of a certain allele providing strong protection against HIV infection. RH negative blood has two sets of the negative marker.

Apparently negative blood is used to treat patients with AIDS, it either slows down their AIDS or stops it for months at a time which is what first lead people to believe people who are RH negative can't catch AIDS.
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well that's a question I was going to ask you... I can tell you I am RH O-negative with the CCR5 mutation but from what I understand the mutation must be on BOTH sides of the DNA to be effective against aids or plague.... didn't know about ebola.....hmmmmm..... I'm not going over there (Africa) to find out if I'm immune....rofl....

I've always wondered if everyone who has the CCR5 mutation is RH negative....we'll never know because negatives are watched/tracked and they (TPTB) wont let us know.

I do know that I fall into almost every category that supposedly describes a negative

only time will tell....
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I am of Native descent, and my mother was O-. However, I am O+. BUT I fit all into all the O-negative "categories" too.

Do you guys know anything about O negatives who test as O positive? I found a little info online, but it wasn't much. Thanks.
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I wonder if these protective genes relate to RH negative blood?

The first post's article, speaks of two copies of a certain allele providing strong protection against HIV infection. RH negative blood has two sets of the negative marker.

Apparently negative blood is used to treat patients with AIDS, it either slows down their AIDS or stops it for months at a time which is what first lead people to believe people who are RH negative can't catch AIDS.
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but i would guess that africans can also have Rh negative blood, too. So I doubt that the deciding factor is the Rh factor.
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VERY few Africans are negative. Neanderthal was NOT in Africa.
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Yeah, that's why I am not buying it.

The black plague has characteristic BUBOES. There are no such buboes described in Ebola patients.
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New Plague fits in with bio weapon "Blackpox" Ebola combined with smallpox to make it more contagious.
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I know several virologists who have said privately that those taking antivirals (mostly men/women who are HIV positive now) are afforded a great deal of resistance to Ebola by the drugs they are taking. The Ebola virus cannot get a foodhold to infect cells with those antivirals in your bloodstream.
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These might be of help to you..
SV40, HLA-B27, CCR5, Delta32, NPC1

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


some people may be resistant to Ebola infection entirely, if they have a mutation in a gene called NPC1. Studies show that, when researchers take cells from people with the NPC1 mutation and try to infect them with Ebola in a laboratory dish, these cells are resistant to the virus.
[link to www.livescience.com]

Rh Negative Blood & HLA B27

By Matt McGrath

In the human immune system, the HLA (human leucocyte antigen) family of genes plays an important role in defending against foreign invaders such as viruses.

The authors say that the origins of some HLA class 1 genes are proof that our ancient relatives interbred with Neanderthals and Denisovans for a period.

“Getting these genes by mating would have given an advantage to populations that acquired them.”

At least one variety of HLA gene occurs frequently in present day populations from West Asia, but is rare in Africans.

“The HLA genes that the Neanderthals and Denisovans had, had been adapted to life in Europe and Asia for several hundred thousand years, whereas the recent migrants from Africa wouldn't have had these genes,” said study leader Peter Parham from Stanford University School of Medicine in California.

“So getting these genes by mating would have given an advantage to populations that acquired them.”

Dr. Pinna says:

The HLA gene which provides our white cells in our immune system with the ability to recognize viruses and perhaps cancers was a gift from our Neanderthal ancestors.

Neanderthals interbred with Europeans and Chinese but not with Africans. This is very important from a medical point of view.

Since the HLA (HUMAN LEUKOCYTE (WHITE CELL) ANTIGEN) protects against viruses, we find the most deadly viruses in Africa. For example, the famous EBOLA virus.Why? Because Africans do not have the ability to defend against and eradicate this virus. The viruses found in Europe and China are rather mild, such as mumps, measles and German measles.Also, Africans have less defenses against cancers caused by viruses. Here is a report from the Guardian, U.K:

“The difference is that a disproportionate number of cancers in Africa are caused by infections, such as the hepatitis viruses (B and C), which cause liver cancer, or the human papillomavirus (HPV), which causes 98% of cervical cancers. The worldwide average for infection-related cancers is about 22%; in Africa, the figures are much higher: 40% of cases in women and 30% in men.”

European and Chinese interbreeding with Neanderthals was a gift from God. Not only did it give us red hair and big brains, but also a way to fight viral infection.

HLA B27 & CCR5-Δ32

According to Randall Johnson at the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, "Only 7% of the US population tests positive for the HLA-B27 gene; this gene, found only in persons with Rh-Negative blood, can trigger the immune system to operate overtime at WARP SPEED in times of medical emergency."

Note: HLA-B27 is also sometimes found in those who are Rh negative recessive.

The HLA-B27 Genetic Marker is said to have protective properties that guard against the progression of HIV. It is said, that people with this gene do not have the right proteins for the HIV virus to bind with. The HLA-B27 Marker is most often found in people with O- Blood.

CCR5-Δ32 is a deletion mutation of a gene that has a specific impact on the function of T cells. At least one copy of CCR5-Δ32 is found in about (5-14%) of people of Northern European and in those of Northern European descent. There also is a small minority (1%) with the same mutation amongst Southern Europeans or Balkan Peninsula. It has been hypothesized that this allele was favored by natural selection during the Black Death for Northern Europeans.

The allele has a negative effect upon T cell function, but appears to protect against smallpox and HIV. Yersinia pestis (the bubonic plague bacterium) was demonstrated in the laboratory not to associate with CCR5. Individuals with the Δ32 allele of CCR5 are healthy, suggesting that CCR5 is largely dispensable. However, CCR5 apparently plays a role in mediating resistance to West Nile virus infection in humans, as CCR5-Δ32 individuals have shown to be disproportionately at higher risk of West Nile virus in studies, indicating that not all of the functions of CCR5 may be compensated by other receptors.

While CCR5 has multiple variants in its coding region, the deletion of a 32-bp segment results in a nonfunctional receptor, thus preventing HIV R5 entry; two copies of this allele provide strong protection against HIV infection. This allele is found in 5–14% of Europeans but is rare in Africans and Asians.

HLA-B27 is an inherited gene marker that is associated with a number of related rheumatic diseases. They share in common, certain features like spinal and peripheral arthritis, skin and GI disorders, anterior chamber eye disease, psoriasis like skin lesions, as well as inflammation and joint pain. This gene is found with highest prevalence in patients with ankylosing spondylosis, reactive arthritis, and patients with the combination of peripheral arthritis and either psoriasis or inflammatory bowel disease.

Neanderthals have been found with skeletal deformities known to be caused be ankylosing spondylitis and Arthritis.[13]

CONCLUSION

Neanderthals carried HLA-B27 which offers protection from certain diseases, however it also causes autoimmune diseases. CCR5-Δ32 deletion is also linked in with O negative blood. They originate in Neanderthals and are not often found in Africa. If you have Rh negative blood, you are blessed with some of the genes from our most ancient families.

Research by Tia Douglass & Andre Heyrman of NADA.
[link to rhnegativebloodsecrets.blogspot.co.uk]
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AIDS does not exist
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Yes it does. I know someone an extended family member who died of aids.
Aids deniers are maybe lonely fools who like to nay say everything just to get a'rise out of others.
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Rh and blood type are antiquated with no definitive correlation with anything. The discovery of MHC I/II and subsequent analysis of thousands of variants in different "humanoids" provides all the information needed to correlate (degree of) immunity with antigen challenge.

If only it were so simple as blood type, Rh +/-
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All born again and Spirit Filled Christians are immune to Ebola and to Aids whether they realize it or not!! Because the Holy Spirit is an anti-disease Spirit that God gives to those who believe in Him and are filled with His Holy Spirit. So while everybody else is dying in great agonies, those of us who serve and love and worship Jesus Christ will be free from every disease. And that includes, nuclear radiation!!
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