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Killing disinformation about how Ebola spreads

 
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Killing disinformation about how Ebola spreads
People here are under the misconception that ebola is airborne and also could be spread through water reservoirs to infect on a wide scale. This is simply untrue.

"Health experts repeatedly emphasize that human-to-human transmission requires direct contact with infected bodily fluids, including blood, vomit and feces.

And to infect, those fluids have to reach a break in the skin or the mucous membranes found around your eyes, mouth and nose."


Route of transmission has been known for a while. The virus is not airborne.

"During the 1995 Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention followed 173 family members of 27 people infected with the virus. Seventy-eight people had no direct contact with an infected person, but they could have been exposed to Ebola through the air. None got infected.

The 28 family members who did get sick all had some sort of physical contact with an ill person."

What about contaminating water sources?

"In water, the Ebola virus would be deactivated in a matter of minutes, Schmaljohn says. That's because each Ebola virus is encased in an envelope taken from the outer surface, or membrane, of a host cell."

Read and educate yourself. Doom and fright are one thing but disregarding real facts in favor of spreading those two things is another.

[link to www.npr.org]
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wife just took a class on it..

It is airborne
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You dont use level 3 containment on non airborne viruses...
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Then how come the monkeys in cages caught it across the room?


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OP may be a balding midget
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Re: Killing disinformation about how Ebola spreads
wife just took a class on it..

It is airborne

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Proof? What kind of class did your wife take? The virus is spread in liquid droplets and cannot survive in air.
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Then how come the monkeys in cages caught it across the room?


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Projectile droplet transmission, and normal body fluid-open wound contact. It isn't too difficult to imagine monkeys spitting at each other, and throwing their feces at one another, now is it?
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wife just took a class on it..

It is airborne

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Proof? What kind of class did your wife take? The virus is spread in liquid droplets and cannot survive in air.
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Which means the op is only partly correct,because it can travel in water, but can only live there for a short time
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wife just took a class on it..

It is airborne

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62714837


Proof? What kind of class did your wife take? The virus is spread in liquid droplets and cannot survive in air.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59455165


Infectious disease...
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You dont use level 3 containment on non airborne viruses...
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I wasn't going to reply since you obviously know nothing of which you are attempting to speak, but you presented me with an opportunity to educate.

Ebola biosafety classification requirement is Level 4. This level is required to protect those working with aerosolized viral agents that are highly infective. Source: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Then how come the monkeys in cages caught it across the room?


drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57663346

Projectile droplet transmission, and normal body fluid-open wound contact. It isn't too difficult to imagine monkeys spitting at each other, and throwing their feces at one another, now is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59455165


Nope, the monkeys were too far away to spit on each other or bombard each other with feces.

Not to mention the HUNDREDS of trained healthcare workers who have recently contracted ebola after being lied to and told it wasn't airborne.

It's disinformation to say that ebola requires direct contact.
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You dont use level 3 containment on non airborne viruses...
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I wasn't going to reply since you obviously know nothing of which you are attempting to speak, but you presented me with an opportunity to educate.

Ebola biosafety classification requirement is Level 4. This level is required to protect those working with aerosolized viral agents that are highly infective. Source: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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yes that is why 1.3 million will be infected by december and 1.2 billion by August of next year..

because it is not airborne

fuckwit...
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Then how come the monkeys in cages caught it across the room?


drevil
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Them monkeys get around.
Or maybe someone in the lab is a monkey fucker
You can ignore the consequences of
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the RESULTS of the consequences of your actions

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Then how come the monkeys in cages caught it across the room?


drevil
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That was Ebola Reston, a form of Ebola that does not affect humans.
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wife just took a class on it..

It is airborne

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62714837


Proof? What kind of class did your wife take? The virus is spread in liquid droplets and cannot survive in air.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59455165


Which means the op is only partly correct,because it can travel in water, but can only live there for a short time
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In water, the Ebola virus would be deactivated in a matter of minutes. Even assuming that it could infect a large reservoir, or open water system, assuming that the source of infection is constant, it would degrade at a near-constant rate. However, this scenario is unlikely due to the nature of how the virus spreads. Ebola can persist for months in corpses, which is why it is important to bury bodies soon after death. But in theory, an infected corpse placed in a shallow or smaller contained body of water, such as a well, could potentially infect that water. Even then, the virus would still degrade quickly in the water, and the viral load of the entire system would eventually diminish as the corpse rots. However, to say that Ebola is generally viable in water and is transmissible on a large scale through water sources is misinformed.
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Then how come the monkeys in cages caught it across the room?


drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57663346

Projectile droplet transmission, and normal body fluid-open wound contact. It isn't too difficult to imagine monkeys spitting at each other, and throwing their feces at one another, now is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59455165


Nope, the monkeys were too far away to spit on each other or bombard each other with feces.

Not to mention the HUNDREDS of trained healthcare workers who have recently contracted ebola after being lied to and told it wasn't airborne.

It's disinformation to say that ebola requires direct contact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57663346


Instead of knee-jerk disagreeing with me, could you provide some sources to support your interesting conclusion?
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Then how come the monkeys in cages caught it across the room?


drevil
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That was Ebola Reston, a form of Ebola that does not affect humans.
 Quoting: oh_yikes


Thank you. I was going to say that but you beat me to it.
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Ignore this thread and do everything in your power to vote democrats out of office now...
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Re: Killing disinformation about how Ebola spreads
You dont use level 3 containment on non airborne viruses...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62714837


I wasn't going to reply since you obviously know nothing of which you are attempting to speak, but you presented me with an opportunity to educate.

Ebola biosafety classification requirement is Level 4. This level is required to protect those working with aerosolized viral agents that are highly infective. Source: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59455165


yes that is why 1.3 million will be infected by december and 1.2 billion by August of next year..

because it is not airborne

fuckwit...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62714837


Where are you getting these projections? Forget Ebola for the moment- I am truly curious as to how idiocy spreads.
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Ignore this thread and do everything in your power to vote democrats out of office now...
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lulz.
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Depends on how you define "Airborne".....

The virus IS found in the bodily fluids of the infected, and that includes saliva, mucus, etc....If someone coughs on you with ebola, you can get it....

Does it stay airborne? That is the question....
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Then how come the monkeys in cages caught it across the room?


drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57663346

Projectile droplet transmission, and normal body fluid-open wound contact. It isn't too difficult to imagine monkeys spitting at each other, and throwing their feces at one another, now is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59455165


I thought the monkeys were in another room and that's why they figured it was airborne traveling through the vents.
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Here is the info you need:

[link to ebola.emedtv.com]

Is a Person Contagious During the Ebola Incubation Period?
Even if a person exhibits no signs or symptoms of Ebola, he or she can still spread the virus during the incubation period.
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CNN - watching the CDC...."If you shook hands with this person while they were symptomatic, you have to be isolated for 3 weeks"...
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Then how come the monkeys in cages caught it across the room?


drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57663346


That was Ebola Reston, a form of Ebola that does not affect humans.
 Quoting: oh_yikes


Thank you. I was going to say that but you beat me to it.
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So what?
It was ebola.

The ebola currently rampaging through Africa is a different strain that is somehow - amazingly - shockingly - infecting a whole bunch of people, on a scale that ebola has never approached before. Each person develops a different variant of the disease while it learns to propagate itself throughout the human host ever more effectively.

How are all the experts in spacesuits getting it, ffs?
Explain that.
Are they all just that sloppy, or is the tiny virus penetrating their suits through the air?
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Look up Canadian studies on eba. It prove ebola can be airborne and that the virus can live dry or in fluid for up to 20-23 days.
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You dont use level 3 containment on non airborne viruses...
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I wasn't going to reply since you obviously know nothing of which you are attempting to speak, but you presented me with an opportunity to educate.

Ebola biosafety classification requirement is Level 4. This level is required to protect those working with aerosolized viral agents that are highly infective. Source: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59455165


yes that is why 1.3 million will be infected by december and 1.2 billion by August of next year..

because it is not airborne

fuckwit...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62714837


Where are you getting these projections? Forget Ebola for the moment- I am truly curious as to how idiocy spreads.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59455165


That's a mathematical model that assumes ebola is truly airborne.
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Depends on how you define "Airborne".....

The virus IS found in the bodily fluids of the infected, and that includes saliva, mucus, etc....If someone coughs on you with ebola, you can get it....

Does it stay airborne? That is the question....
 Quoting: MulvaGippleDelores


There is currently no evidence that ebola is spread through air and infects by inhalation of air containing live virus, as opposed to inhalation or skin contact of aerosols or droplets containing the virus. By their nature, droplets do not travel very far, and small volumes of water quickly evaporate, thus making them ineffective carriers of infectious virus particles over distances more than a few feet.

"Airborne transmission has not been documented during EVD outbreaks. They are, however, infectious as breathable 0.8– to 1.2-μm laboratory-generated droplets." Source: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I wasn't going to reply since you obviously know nothing of which you are attempting to speak, but you presented me with an opportunity to educate.

Ebola biosafety classification requirement is Level 4. This level is required to protect those working with aerosolized viral agents that are highly infective. Source: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59455165


yes that is why 1.3 million will be infected by december and 1.2 billion by August of next year..

because it is not airborne

fuckwit...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62714837


Where are you getting these projections? Forget Ebola for the moment- I am truly curious as to how idiocy spreads.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59455165


That's a mathematical model that assumes ebola is truly airborne.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57663346

If you are going to state something as fact, please provide a source. I could say that there's a mathematical model that you are an idiot, but without proof of the existence of the model we can only read your posts to be certain.
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Look up Canadian studies on eba. It prove ebola can be airborne and that the virus can live dry or in fluid for up to 20-23 days.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61963193


It would be great if you would be so kind as to provide links to these studies you claim exist.





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