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ReefRaider

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Someone in the medical community with a fucking backbone who is qualified enough to render the assessment the "CDC are Liars"!

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is this the same as saying that the CDC are ly'in sacks-a-shit ?
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Folks, read The Hot Zone. Ebola is very contagious. At the CDC, ebola is considered a level 4 microorganism. When scientists are handling it, they have to remove all clothing and jewelry, put on latex gloves and a suit, and then put on another hazmat suit over that which is attached to a face mask like an astronaut.

The scientist carries an air supply which pumps air into the suit and mask. There's always 2 scientists in the room, and every few seconds they glance at each other to make sure there's nothing wrong with the suit or no pin pricks in the gloves. After they're done, they leave the room, which is kept under negative pressure at all times, and they go to the first decontamination room where they receive a chemical shower and uv light. This takes close to 30 minuets.

They they go to the next area, where they take off the suit and put it in a cabinet which has uv light shining on it at all times. They they inspect their inside pair of gloves for pin holes. They they take the rest of their clothes off and dispose of them. Then they take another long shower, and then they can leave.

These same people are telling us that sitting next to a person on a plane with ebola is nothing to worry about. LOL
They're trying not to cause panic is what they're doing, but inside the CDC right now, I would bet my life on it, there's all out panic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57037612


That's a good point. Here's what a private Biosafety Level 4 lab looks like. Exactly as you said, and yeah, that's insane for them to say open exposure, anywhere, is even remotely safe.

[link to www.txbiomed.org (secure)]

"Designed for maximum containment, BSL-4 labs offer a safe environment for scientists to study deadly pathogens for which there are no known treatments or vaccines. These labs are often described as “spacesuit labs” because scientists who work in them wear protective suits that serve as an effective barrier between them and the agents they study. Numerous other safety and security measures are engaged to ensure that both the scientists working inside and the environment outside the lab have the utmost protection from the agents under investigation."
John 8:32

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Here's how serious Ft. Detrick takes Ebola. Bubonic Plague doesn't even get the level of security, at their new facility, that Ebola gets.

[link to www.popularmechanics.com]

Hemorrhagic fevers like Marburg and Ebola, which are caused by viruses, are among the world's most horrific afflictions. For about seven days after infection, patients suffer from flulike symptoms, but as the virus multiplies, blood starts to seep from the skin, mouth, eyes and ears. Internal organs hemorrhage into bloody, shapeless masses. Some of these fevers kill up to 90 percent of those who contract them, and they can be passed along by close contact with bodily fluids, maybe even by a sneeze.

Scientists still don't know much about how these rare but deadly diseases operate. If they take root in America--carried by unsuspecting travelers or by terrorists--the medical community would have no vaccines to halt their spread. And there are only a handful of laboratories in the world equipped to experiment with these highly communicable pathogens; none has the sophisticated diagnostic gear that is being installed at the IRF. Lessons learned here could one day mean the difference between an outbreak and an epidemic.

Paragas is standing in what will be the dividing line between two labs--an outer lab rated to handle dangerous infectious diseases and an inner lab designed for the worst pathogens in the world. The outer area is the medical research equivalent of a maximum-security prison--Biosafety Level 3. The inner sanctum is supermax, or BSL-4. Researchers can study bubonic plague at level 3; Ebola and other killers that are transmissible and currently incurable must be quarantined at level 4. The institute is so security-conscious that it asked Popular Mechanics not to identify the floor on which the BSL-3 and BSL-4 labs are located.
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"They are either lying or they are incompetent".

I disagree.

I think they are both.
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cool. it's good to see someone stand up for what is right even tho it's too late. nothing anyone could have done. tptb determined they were going to do agenda21 and nothing could stand in their way.
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CDC leaders are like Lois Lerner combined with the Secret Service dunce wench
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He was Just on Cavuto, Said Pray.......
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Heres a link to the video....

[link to www.ajc.com]
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He was Just on Cavuto, Said Pray.......
 Quoting: Mr BubbaHyde


Fox News @FoxNews · 9m 9 minutes ago
Dr. who claims #CDC is lying on #Ebola risk: “Imported cases are going to be happening if not weekly, possibly daily and possibly hourly.”
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i hope he doesnt have an *accident* or heart attack now...
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Maybe. But I'm still kinda on the fence just the same. Panic doesn't do anything good.
 Quoting: ajk


Hi AJK. Regardless of whether the U.S. ebola is real or invented, the point remains, we're being lied to.

They are telling us that we're not at risk unless we have body contact, fluids, within 3 ft. etc. blah blah blah. They have an "out" for that statement in that it's not been documented in humans, that you can get Ebola from a sneeze. "In humans." Aerosol transmission though, HAS been documented.

First, the definition: aer·o·sol
"a substance enclosed under pressure and able to be released as a fine spray, typically by means of a propellant gas."

So, is a sneeze aerosol?

Aerosols are emitted not only by "aerosol-generating procedures,"[19] but may also be transmitted whenever an infected person coughs, sneezes, talks, or exhales. Pathogens transmitted by respiratory aerosols can travel short or long range from the source depending on the size and shape of the particles, the initial velocity (eg, cough vs exhalation), and environmental conditions (eg, humidity, airflow).[25-27]
[link to www.medscape.com]

If you're not in that 3 ft. range, are you safe?

INFECTIOUS DOSE: Viral hemorrhagic fevers have an infectious dose of 1 - 10 organisms by aerosol in non-human primates Footnote 41.
[link to www.phac-aspc.gc.ca]

The aerosol from a sneeze doesn't just dissipate and disappear. It lands on people, surfaces, floors, walls, railings, purses, briefcases, and anything in the area. It would make sense that in an airport situation, the sneeze would be spread farther by air movement from human activity.

There may have been no human studies of transmission by sneezing, but it's been suggested:

Transmission of Ebola virus (Zaire strain) to uninfected control monkeys in a biocontainment laboratory.

The most likely route of infection of the control monkeys was aerosol, oral or conjunctival exposure to virus-laden droplets secreted or excreted from the experimentally inoculated monkeys. These observations suggest approaches to the study of routes of transmission to and among humans.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Hazmat teams have reference sheets when working on toxic spills, etc. Pretty sure it's the MSDS they refer to. Here's the MSDS for Ebola:

Free Safety Data Sheet Index
Ebola virus


PATHOGEN SAFETY DATA SHEET - INFECTIOUS SUBSTANCES
Humans may be infected by handling sick or dead non-human primates and are also at risk when handling the bodies of deceased humans in preparation for funerals, suggesting possible transmission through aerosol droplets (2, 6, 28). In the laboratory, infection through small-particle aerosols has been demonstrated in primates, and airborne spread among humans is strongly suspected, although it has not yet been conclusively demonstrated
[link to www.msdsonline.com]

So, if it's a false flag, they're lying. If it's not a false flag, based on the above resources and others, IMO they're still lying. Might be good to plan your activities according to the trust you have in liars.

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It's sad that it had to even get to this point for someone to stand up and say "hey!"
 Quoting: Ohio chic


Yep...but it's WAY past the point people should've been standing up years ago.

And it's even sadder that he's the only one doing anything active.

There are tons of people (probably the majority of Americans) who have no clue about this Ebola threat knocking on their door.
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I think that is great! I want him to be my doctor.
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CDC better update their website. In link below, it states that there were NO cases in US. I guess they are busy with other things.
[link to www.cdc.gov]
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its funny the whole "ebola is a hoax" thing seems to be going on in africa also

in africa the hoax meme has had a real effect

trying to see i americans are dumb enough to fall for it too
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Folks, read The Hot Zone. Ebola is very contagious. At the CDC, ebola is considered a level 4 microorganism. When scientists are handling it, they have to remove all clothing and jewelry, put on latex gloves and a suit, and then put on another hazmat suit over that which is attached to a face mask like an astronaut.

The scientist carries an air supply which pumps air into the suit and mask. There's always 2 scientists in the room, and every few seconds they glance at each other to make sure there's nothing wrong with the suit or no pin pricks in the gloves. After they're done, they leave the room, which is kept under negative pressure at all times, and they go to the first decontamination room where they receive a chemical shower and uv light. This takes close to 30 minuets.

They they go to the next area, where they take off the suit and put it in a cabinet which has uv light shining on it at all times. They they inspect their inside pair of gloves for pin holes. They they take the rest of their clothes off and dispose of them. Then they take another long shower, and then they can leave.

These same people are telling us that sitting next to a person on a plane with ebola is nothing to worry about. LOL
They're trying not to cause panic is what they're doing, but inside the CDC right now, I would bet my life on it, there's all out panic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57037612


^^THIS^^

I dunno about their panic level inside the CDC, but you are right about the whole "suiting up" procedure. It's crazy isn't it? That they would dare to tell us 3 feet is a safe distance when they don't enter a ROOM with ebola in test tubes without the suits?
"It's a metaphor, see: You put the killing thing right between your teeth, but you don't give it the power to do its killing." ~ Augstus Waters
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Go away shill .... People are waking up...you all better be scared of US Instaed of us scared of you
 Quoting: Ohio chic


I don't know if I'd call him a shill, if anything he seems to be going the other way since he's not parroting what the news is saying here, trying to wake you all up in effect to their tactics rightly or not.

I'm not sure where I am on this really, but I would keep in mind that they do like to instill fear, fear is power, remember that.
 Quoting: ajk


Instilling fear and watching facts are different topics. Borders open, no flight restricts for these countries, cdc assured us that there was such a low risk of it ever showing up here...wow you really are a special kind of stupid if you think that this is not happening.
 Quoting: Ohio chic


:darwinshh:
Let them think it's fake. That's one problem which is self-correcting.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


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Take precautionary measures, It is good to play it safe. This virus has a 50/50 or 60/40 mortality rate. Ofcourse if you are into playing russian roulette with your health. By all means throw caution to the wind. And don't complain when you vomit blood.
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The thing that bothered me is that they told him he could either remove the suit and let them confiscate it or not fly. Um, what if that were his only means of protection on a flight? Maybe one of the teachers as the school where the kid went after breaking quarantine wtfwtfwill wear one to teach in tomorrow.
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At US and Canadian airports travelers from Africa are being asked if they feel sick? Of course, no one will admit that they are not well...

Thomas Eric Duncan knew that he could be infected after carrying for dying woman with Ebola in Liberia. Still this rat got on 3 planes and now have free medical care in the USA.
Probably he was already sick with symptoms on his way to Texas....

Just wait and see how many Americans and not only, he infected along the way....

damned

What a great way for this doctor flying in protection suit to bring awareness about Ebola.

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