All prophecies the bible says will happen in End Times are happening or almost completed at present

Apparently, there is an element of the supernatural here based on the description of this verse:

Joel 2:8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded....

And God refers to them as his 'army'....

Joel 2:11 And the Lord shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word....

Joel 2:4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.

5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.

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They're possibly supernatural and yet they are compared to a strong people.

Said Jesus in his lifetime and also said by numerous people every centennial since.

Not really - Jesus explained when the end of the world would be. He gave markers to look for. I won't go into them - just post this:

People for 2000 years have been incorrectly saying Jesus would return.

Up til now - it couldn't have happened because the technology didn't exist.

You couldn't see something happening on the other side of the world - this passage below makes no sense to anyone living in Jesus time.

Only we today can understand the technology it takes for this to happen:

Rev 13:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall SEE their dead bodies three and an half days lie in the street. (KJV)

This says other people from other nations will SEE their dead bodies in the street.

The tech didn't exist for people to be in a FIELD or someone on a ROOF and both 'simultaneously' seeing something they should act on i.e. the antichrist STANDING in the temple.

Math 24:15 When ye therefore shall SEE the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

Well, the technology now exists for the rest of prophecies to come true.

Joel 2:2...a great people and a strong...

What could enable a person to achieve the characteristics described in Joel 2?

Possibly transhuman individuals:

Small excerpt from an article on transhumanism....

Engineering Humans for War

Inside the Pentagon’s efforts to create a super-soldier—and change the future of the battlefield

“Soldiers having no physical, physiological, or cognitive limitation will be key to survival and operational dominance in the future.”

What if soldiers could have 10 times the muscle endurance of enemy soldiers? What if they could leap seven feet or do 300 pull-ups a day?

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Math 24:15 When ye therefore shall SEE the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


Spiritually see.

Jesus words where about the spirit and spirit only. The flesh profits nothing, care not for tomorrow and all that.

The Holy place is the mind(spirit)

The Abomination that makes desolate is the soul, the heart in a man, given to the lusts of the flesh.


(whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Anyone can see something physical and understand it.

This takes a bit more.


Mark 13:14
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

The mountain is the mind. Where you should go to commune with the Father in the Holy splace which is the mind(spirit), since God is a spirit, and those that worship him must do so in spirit also. That's how one receives his righteousness and revelations, which renew and transforms your mind.

Luke 16:15
And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

Yet you all treat your own hearts(souls) like it is Holy..


Thing is with what Jesus taught is that if you don't understand, or should I say if you haven't had understanding revealed to you by the Father, then what you read will seem like a parable, and Jesus said that himself.

That's why he said Seek FIRST the Kingdom and the Father's righteousness and then ALL things (spiritual) undertanding will be added to you.

The rcck of the true church is revelations from the Father..

You get them, and understanding is revealed.


Jesus kept asking the question why is it in seeing you cannot see, and why is it in hearing you cannot hear?


Have your hearts yet hardened. Why do you think evil in your hearts.? etc, etc..

Let me get this straight - So Jesus said if you are in a field or on a rooftop and you 'spiritually SEE' the evil one stand in the holy place.

mmmmm - sorry I don't see that in these verses:

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

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If you are in THE MIDDLE of Jerusalem and you spiritually SEE - Nope - not here either.

20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh....

To further clarify what Jesus is saying - he's referring to Dan 11:31 when he says in Matt 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet:

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

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And we're told in Daniel 12 - this is 3 1/2 years before Jesus returns:

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

Joel 2:2...a great people and a strong..

Joel 2:3 ....yea, and nothing shall escape them

Found this on another thread - would post the thread but don't remember which one.

End times - Horror to come:

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Joel 2:10 The earth shall quake before them

From biblehub:

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

earth … quake before them—that is, the inhabitants of the earth quake with fear of them.

Joel 2:10....the heavens shall tremble

Well we certainly know locusts aren't going to make the heavens tremble or any man. But God could!!

Pretty much all bible commentaries here refer to it as army of locusts:

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To be fair I've only recently learned about transhumanism myself; otherwise, I would probably be saying it was locusts:)

Also note - I believe this takes place at the end of the great tribulation, and we have idea how advance transhumanism will be by then.

Joel 2:10...the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining...

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light...

This

So Joel 2 could represent either world war three or Armageddon

Here we have the kings of the east threatening the antichrist, which also supports Joel 2 that it's China and possibly Armageddon...

Daniel 11:44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
King James Version (KJV)

It is a verse from the day of the lord event, the day the two witnesses are resurrected.

Joe:2:11:
And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army:
for his camp is very great:
for he is strong that executeth his word:
for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible;
and who can abide it?

Re:19:11-16:
And I saw heaven opened,
and behold a white horse;
and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True,
and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
His eyes were as a flame of fire,
and on his head were many crowns;
and he had a name written,
that no man knew,
but he himself.
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood:
and his name is called The Word of God.
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses,
clothed in fine linen,
white and clean.
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword,
that with it he should smite the nations:
and he shall rule them with a rod of iron:
and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written,
KING OF KINGS,
AND LORD OF LORDS.

Re:14:18:
And another angel came out from the altar,
which had power over fire;
and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying,
Thrust in thy sharp sickle,
and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth;
for her grapes are fully ripe.
Re:14:19:
And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth,
and gathered the vine of the earth,
and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

M't:13:41-43:
The Son of man shall send forth his angels,
and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend,
and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire:
there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.
Who hath ears to hear,
let him hear.

I agree with you completely.

However, some where in here we have to fit the vial judgments, which also signal the Great Day Of The Lord.

It appears the vials are poured during Armageddon:

Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

There is a few hours or wrath on the day the 7th trump sounds. A handfull of fallen angels are sent to the fiery lake and the rest of the judgment is agains the men who followed them. If the Book of Jude calls fallen angels 'ungodly men' they that term is specific to fallen angels when read in prophecy. Their judgement is at the end of the 1,000 year reign and that whole period is known as the day of the lord for that reason. The people who are alive at the end of day 1 of the 1,000 years are considered to be 'children of God, a 1,000 years later they are perfected men in heart band immortality. Should they sin the fiery lake would then be their destination as they are of the 2nd birth in which men can look on the face of God and remain alive.

Jude:1:4:
For there are certain men crept in unawares,
who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men,
turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness,
and denying the only Lord God,
and our Lord Jesus Christ.


The vials are the wrath that is called the 3rd woe and like the two before it start with the sound of a trump. The 5th trump is woe #1 and it lasts for a period of 5 months. The next woe is the 6th trump in which 1/3 of the planet is killed in 37 months (42months for the Beast from the Pit at the start of the 5th trump, at the sound of the 7th trump all 42 months have been used up.

The day the two witnesses are resurrected is the day the 7th trump sounds and that results in all 7 vials being poured out in just a few hours. If the timeline from the day of the cross is used the vials would be from 1PM-3PM. The resurrection of the whole House of Israel as described in Eze:37:1-14) would occur and that would finish the 1st day of the 1,000 year reign.

Re:11:14:
The second woe is past;
and,
behold,
the third woe cometh quickly.

Re:18:8:
Therefore shall her plagues come in one day,
death,
and mourning,
and famine;
and she shall be utterly burned with fire:
for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Re:18:10:
Standing afar off for the fear of her torment,
saying,
Alas,
alas,
that great city Babylon,
that mighty city!
for in one hour is thy judgment come.

The seals are prophecy for what the coals from heaven and the trumps that follow will bring to the earth in a literal fashion. I could expand on ythat if you are interested.

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We agree that Joel2 and Rev 16 along with vial judgments refer to The Great Day of The Lord.

Where I don't agree is mystery babylon is still here, after the antichrist takes over the new world order. He and satan are totally in control at that time. (Rev 13)

So you see in Rev 18:18 - that mystery babylon is pretty much in charge - until the antichrist and the 10 kings destroy her; Therefore is gone before The Great Day of The Lord.

Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire....

Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Joel 2:11 And the Lord shall utter his voice before his army....

As mentioned before - this army could possess some supernatural elements.

Can we find any examples of God's supernatural forces or army?

IMO - yes. It's possible the army Joel 2 is referencing is the same army in Rev 19:

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war....

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean....

Could these people be part of this army?:

Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them....

Or angels?

6 And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.