Breaking> NURSE'S HUSBAND TESTS POSITIVE FOR EBOLA IN SPAIN (2nd case) Another nurse being tested after showing symptoms | |
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TexasCowgirl512 User ID: 43877345 United States 10/07/2014 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking> NURSE'S HUSBAND TESTS POSITIVE FOR EBOLA IN SPAIN (2nd case) Another nurse being tested after showing symptoms With the antibody therapy, doctors transfuse blood from people who've recovered from the disease. The survival rate improves, but researchers still don't know whether the therapy actually works because the patients who receive the blood transfusions also receive better care. Quoting: nancy2001 [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] This "transfusion" thread seems not to make any sense. Doesn't the donor blood have to match (Blood Type and other factors) the transfusion recipient? How can they transfuse blood willy-nilly just because the donor had Ebola? What are the chances that the donor: 1. Had Ebola 2. Recovered from it 3. Is the correct blood type 4. Is in proximity to the recipient. Seems like a BIG stretch to me. Or are they somehow separating the antibodies from the blood serum to make it universal? They might decrease the amount of the virus in the body but Ebola distroys the organs so quickly they will continue to die, kidneys, liver, lungs...take too much damage. Add the quickness of mutation..they can't cure it...they can't even catch up with it A man does what he must - in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures - and that is the basis of all human morality. Winston Churchill |
TexasCowgirl512 User ID: 43877345 United States 10/07/2014 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking> NURSE'S HUSBAND TESTS POSITIVE FOR EBOLA IN SPAIN (2nd case) Another nurse being tested after showing symptoms This is true and should have naplamed the villages, I know it sounds cruel but it was the only way to stop it....note WAS too late now A man does what he must - in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures - and that is the basis of all human morality. Winston Churchill |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56681215 United States 10/07/2014 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking> NURSE'S HUSBAND TESTS POSITIVE FOR EBOLA IN SPAIN (2nd case) Another nurse being tested after showing symptoms "she wore full protective gear and followed the protocol set in place by the World Health Organization to avoid contracting the disease." [link to www.thedailybeast.com] what does that mean for dallas ?? |
Someone User ID: 37960847 United States 10/07/2014 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking> NURSE'S HUSBAND TESTS POSITIVE FOR EBOLA IN SPAIN (2nd case) Another nurse being tested after showing symptoms I am watching BBC now, and they just came in with breaking news: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63738012 Four more people hospitalised for Ebola in Spain. Someone sayz, If this turns out to be true, and they aren't all people who had direct exposure to infected bodily fluids, it's a game changer. Why would the exposed nurse be doing rounds once she started to show symptoms? If she did, why would other medical professionals be panicking, since it would be obvious how it was spreading, and just as obvious how to stop it from spreading further? As usual, we're not getting the full or true story, but if it turns out the basic facts are true, then there has been a significant mutation, which RIAMP and RIIDS would explain. Not that it is necessarily airborne, but it might be. |
TexasCowgirl512 User ID: 43877345 United States 10/07/2014 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking> NURSE'S HUSBAND TESTS POSITIVE FOR EBOLA IN SPAIN (2nd case) Another nurse being tested after showing symptoms The husband of the nurse reported in facebook the goverment wants to sacrifice his dog, and he wants to stop that: Quoting: pekovic "Hello, my name is Javier Limon Romero, I am the husband of Teresa Romero Ramos, the ebola infected auxililiar for trying voluntarily to the two infected patients who were repatriated to Spain. I want to report publicly that such a Zarco, I think it is health officer of the Community of Madrid, told me they have to sacrifice my dog so if more. I asked my consent to. Which I refused rotumdamente. He says then they will demand a warrant to forcibly enter my home and sacrifice. I come before you leave the hospital several buckets of water, hot water and also with. 15kg bag of feed to have food and water. We will also leave open terrace to eliminate. It seems unfair that a mistake they want to solve this for the fast track. A dog does not have to spread anything a person and not backwards. If you are really worried about this problem I think you can find another type of alternative solutions, such as putting the dog in quarantine and observation as it has me. Or do you have to sacrifice my case. Of course, a dog is easier, not so much." Source: [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] I saw a study 20% of dogs can get it once exposed, not sure if they can carry it Pray it doesn't attach to birds, it has to some point bats Sad Last Edited by TexasCowgirl512 on 10/07/2014 12:51 PM A man does what he must - in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures - and that is the basis of all human morality. Winston Churchill |
TexasCowgirl512 User ID: 43877345 United States 10/07/2014 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking> NURSE'S HUSBAND TESTS POSITIVE FOR EBOLA IN SPAIN (2nd case) Another nurse being tested after showing symptoms "she wore full protective gear and followed the protocol set in place by the World Health Organization to avoid contracting the disease." [link to www.thedailybeast.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56681215 what does that mean for dallas ?? Hospitals unlike leavel 4 labs don't have negative pressure.... That's how it is spreading IMHO A man does what he must - in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures - and that is the basis of all human morality. Winston Churchill |
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Someone User ID: 37960847 United States 10/07/2014 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking> NURSE'S HUSBAND TESTS POSITIVE FOR EBOLA IN SPAIN (2nd case) Another nurse being tested after showing symptoms "she wore full protective gear and followed the protocol set in place by the World Health Organization to avoid contracting the disease." [link to www.thedailybeast.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56681215 what does that mean for dallas ?? Someone sayz, Nothing. Yet. If a mutation making it possible to spread easier has occurred in Spain, then that is where we'll see a full scale epidemic, and where a pandemic will be centered on. We just have to wait to see if the chain of transmission grows to third level contacts. That would be extremely bad news. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63501139 United States 10/07/2014 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking> NURSE'S HUSBAND TESTS POSITIVE FOR EBOLA IN SPAIN (2nd case) Another nurse being tested after showing symptoms With the antibody therapy, doctors transfuse blood from people who've recovered from the disease. The survival rate improves, but researchers still don't know whether the therapy actually works because the patients who receive the blood transfusions also receive better care. Quoting: nancy2001 [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] This "transfusion" thread seems not to make any sense. Doesn't the donor blood have to match (Blood Type and other factors) the transfusion recipient? How can they transfuse blood willy-nilly just because the donor had Ebola? What are the chances that the donor: 1. Had Ebola 2. Recovered from it 3. Is the correct blood type 4. Is in proximity to the recipient. Seems like a BIG stretch to me. Or are they somehow separating the antibodies from the blood serum to make it universal? They might decrease the amount of the virus in the body but Ebola distroys the organs so quickly they will continue to die, kidneys, liver, lungs...take too much damage. Add the quickness of mutation..they can't cure it...they can't even catch up with it Yes, this is what I understand they are doing..maybe its just called plasma.. |
Someone User ID: 37960847 United States 10/07/2014 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking> NURSE'S HUSBAND TESTS POSITIVE FOR EBOLA IN SPAIN (2nd case) Another nurse being tested after showing symptoms "she wore full protective gear and followed the protocol set in place by the World Health Organization to avoid contracting the disease." [link to www.thedailybeast.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56681215 what does that mean for dallas ?? Hospitals unlike leavel 4 labs don't have negative pressure.... That's how it is spreading IMHO Someone sayz, It hasn't been spreading that way up till now. If it were, we'd have outbreaks in the wild all over the place. Up until this case in Spain, we haven't seen any transmission outside of Africa. That isn't surprising if the main mode of infection isn't human-to-human, but host-to-human, given that they have no idea what the host species is. Unless they have that same host species in Spain though, transmission there would have to be human-to-human. Which means a significant mutation. Of course, every person they've sequenced has a unique strain, so we already know something is wildly accelerating mutation rates. So having a significant mutation under these conditions is entirely possible. That's how we know this isn't a weaponized strain being spread. There's no way they could whip up a unique strain for every person infected, how would they even keep track? |