Is Judaism a race or a religion?

Real world answer: Judaism is labeled a race when that is convenient, and a religion when that is convenient.

A person can be atheist and still considered Jewish (see Hollywood for starters), and one only has to prove Jewish genetics in order to gain permanent entry to Israel.

"Anti-Semitism" is considered "racism against Jews" by 99.9% of the population. The Rabbi is obfuscating.

Do a study on Semites and one sees the Jews are only one small part. Hebrews and Israel (real Israel) are Semites and Israel are the Chosen of God.

I agree above with the comments that both are used when it serves their purpose. Like Ben Affleck last week stating that to point out the rotten fruit of Islam is a "racist thing to say...Like saying a Jew is a xxxx"

What has he done but equate rejection of Islam (a religion) as racism and Jews (religion) with race?


Very crafty.
Racism and its attending laws, as most have noticed by now, was sold to the world as the solution to favouritism shown to people based upon the colour of one's skin... But has morphed into a label and law used by men who love to hurl insults and cower people by slapping them on the wrist.
Reject Islam as a religion? Are we not hearing more and more that we are racists if we do so? Why? Because Jews have used it for decades to protect criticism of the fruit produced by its myriad of religious beliefs. Dare to point out its rotten fruit and you get slapped with the racist label.

Sorry------say that in a new way?


Do not get that.....

It is both, in my opinion.


Just me, of course.

Judaism is a vehicle for a race....the same race that keeps trying to kill Jews - hence, itself.

Think about that...

Affleck is a fucking leftist idiot and Judaism is both.

Judaism is the set of laws followed by Israelites, it has to do with nationality and not religion. Modern day Jews are not the real Jews so of course whatever they say isn't true. A heathen can not join the congregation, ever.

Then why do they keep saying they need to be born to a Jewish mother to be Jewish.

Slicksters.

Unless the Torah Jews are Jews, and the slicksters are the synagogue of Satan.

Last Edited by IDL on 11/10/2014 08:12 PM

One can convert to Judaism, as well.

They just do not push for it like Christians and Muslims do.

technically, they have to take you in on the third try.


First time-----"No,. Study it carefully."

Second time----"No. Study it more and see if it is for you."

Third time-----"Ok. Since you are still interested."


The rabbis are told to do it that way.


Anyway, the Jews also have the 7 Noahide Laws, which are the laws that Noah was given by God after the Flood-----and which which all Non-Jewsih Gentile nations nations must follow.

Here is a link:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

See the post above this one.

That's part of their satanic doctrine, putting g the woman over the man, it all goes back to Semiramis. The bible makes it clear we come from the seed of our father, the mother's womb is literally nothing but the potting soil for life. You are what your father is, there is no mixed race or "half this and that" nationality goes by the father, Jews teach the opposite because they are of Satan. Even though they aren't the true Jews to begin with. But the whole world, including them, know it, as well as knowing who the true Jews are.

Who are the true Jews, then?


And where is the proof that Nationality/Religion is designated strictly by the father, please? Linky or stinky.

And BTW, i am not Jewish myself.

You are a trickster muslim.

BTW - Sarah was a prophet whereas Abraham kept arguing with G-d to save evil-doers.

If by "link" you mean a verse from the scripture than I have that.

Numbers 1:18
And they assembled all the congregation together on the first day of the second month, and they declared their pedigrees after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, by their polls.

So yes, your nationality is determined by your father's lineage, the mother nor the land you are born in have nothing to do with it. Ex: "Mexican" dad, "White" mom, you're a "Mexican" because you are your father's seed.

Both, they were one of three genetic experimental groups. Each group was kept separate so as not to confuse the experiments. The Christians were the last, when the scientists had reached thier goal. The groups were Muslims, Jews and Christians in that order - you can see the slight changes in thier respective religions as the experimentation progressed.

Islam is stolen from Judaism, it was literally fabricated for the sole purpose of getting the Ishmaelites (aka Arabs) out of the holy land, it backfired when Muhammed took what the catholic church had given him and just ran with it and called it a new "religion."

Last Edited by I'm Just Jake on 11/10/2014 08:37 PM

Few jews are religious but almost all of them share a culture. Judaism is a culture.

Because it's a set of laws, statutes, and commandments given to a specific people.

:ohlook:

Yes, for a specific purpose.

Looks like you have just fallen into the trap of the "may-translation error" problem------

The KING JAMES version-----which it is what you have quoted (I looked it up) says "by the houses of their fathers"

The Oremus Bible Browser translation, for example, says---
"Moses and Aaron took these men who had been designated by name, and on the first day of the second month they assembled the whole congregation together. They registered themselves in their clans, by their ANCESTRAL HOUSES, according to the NUMBER of NAMES from TWENTY YEARS OLD and upward, INDIVIDUALLY, as the Lord commanded Moses."

That above is the NEW REVISED STANDARD version.

The Anglicized New Revised Standard version says---
"Moses and Aaron took these men who had been designated by name, and on the first day of the second month they assembled the whole congregation together. They registered themselves in their clans, by their ANCESTRAL HOUSES, according to the number of NAMES from TWENTY YEARS OLD and upwards, INDIVIDUALLY, as the Lord commanded Moses."

The Douay-Rheims version says:

"Whom Moses and Aaron took with all the multitude of the common people: [18] And assembled them on the first day of the second month, reckoning them up by the KINDREDS, and HOUSES, and FAMILIES, and HEADS, and names of EVRY ONE from TWENTY YEARS OLD and upward, [19] As the Lord had commanded Moses."

(This one does not say INDIVIDUALLY).


Which one is the correct one, pray tell?

The KJV has been proven to have an enormous amount of errors-------why not look at the CONTEXT of the passage and also look at it from a translation that is as close to the Hebrew as possible?

For example:

God does not actually say "I AM THAT I AM" to Moses.
The correct (closest) Hebrew translation says "I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE"-----meaning that God is saying to the Moses and the Hebrew people-----"come with me on this journey and you will find out what I am and what I will be----and what I will become."

Anyway----


Like many Christians, you are taking this and many other things out of context----

"Take a census of the whole congregation of Israelites, in their clans, by ancestral houses, according to the number of names, every male individually; from twenty years old and upward, everyone in Israel ABLE TO GO TO WAR.You and Aaron shall ENROLL them, COMPANY by COMPANY. A man from each tribe shall be with you, each man the head of his ancestral house. "

(New Revised Standard Version).

"Take a census of the whole congregation of Israelites, in their clans, by ancestral houses, according to the number of names, every male individually; 3from twenty years old and upwards, everyone in Israel ABLE TO GO TO WAR. You and Aaron shall ENROLL them, COMPANY by COMPANY. A man from each tribe shall be with you, each man the head of his ancestral house."

(Anglicized Revised Version)

The same thing isn said basically in the KJV.

LOOK HERE-----------------

The POINT of the passage has to do with a census that God is having Moses and Aaron do for the purpose of registering ALL ABLE-BODIED men able to go to WAR. The male heads of each tribe would accompany them.

The census (according to some versions) was by ANCESTRAL NAMES of HOUSES, others of KINDREDS--------

Which one is it, then?

The Tribes were named after the male sons of Jacob-----but these tribes were to give their sons twenty years and up to God for them to fight in his name----it was for the purpose of war-----------it is NOT in the context of designating descent from MEN necessarily.

THAT is the context of this.

NOT what you are saying.

You have to look at the context of passages instead of simply picking a passage out of it at random and saying, "That fits what I think it fits."

As in....Hagar and her son were first?


Hmmmm.

Jews are about the least religious people in the world yet they absolutely have the tightest social network of any people. What can account for such intense social networking?

Millenia of horrendous things done to them would create social cohesion, I would say.........

Also, god said for them to stick together.


I guess.

Sorry.......it happens. And this IS GLP.

Jews here are considered either a) The Devil, b) Righteous people, or C) Just stupid.

Judaism is a religion. Having said that, many religious people consider fellow believers to be family. Even the Christians refer to each other as brother and sister, and they refer to the church as one body. It is not far-fetched to consider similar, albeit distinctly different, beliefs among Jews or other groups. Are they a biological race? No, since many have different lineage. However, they may consider themselves as such.