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Navy Grounds Top Guns. F/A-18 Hornet strike fighter squadrons state-side grounded with only two or three flyable jets available.

 
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Navy Grounds Top Guns. F/A-18 Hornet strike fighter squadrons state-side grounded with only two or three flyable jets available.
What the frack!


The F/A-18s needs spare parts and in too many cases they’re being taken from brand new jets. This is a risk to national security and pilots’ lives.

The U.S. Navy’s elite cadre of fighter pilots—made famous by Top Gun—are not flying nearly often as they would like. Instead, many of the Navy’s elite Boeing F/A-18 Hornet strike fighter squadrons are sitting on the ground with only two or three flyable jets available. The rest of the jets are awaiting maintenance for want of critical spare parts—and some of those parts are being cannibalized from brand new jets in an increasingly vain attempt to keep squadrons flying.

“It’s pretty bad, ” said one veteran F/A-18 fighter pilot. “Some squadrons have found it difficult to keep more than a few jets up, while other squadrons are spending a tremendous amount of operational time away from home base, creating what Air Boss has called ‘the haves and the have nots.’”

The ‘have not’ units are those squadrons based at home in the United States that are not immediately preparing to deploy. The ‘haves’ are those either flying combat missions over Iraq and Syria or those from high-priority areas like the elite Japan-based units that are always kept at a very high level of readiness thanks to China and North Korea.

While that’s great for the units that get to fly on a regular basis, it is very bad for those squadrons that are not able to take to the skies. Pilots need to fly a certain number of hours per month in order to keep their skills sharp—that is the advantage of American aviators over foreign countries. Often, it’s less about the technological advantages of American aircraft and more the skills of that man or woman flying that jet that makes the real difference in combat.

If pilots are not flying, their skills atrophy and that could put their lives in danger. That’s especially true when Navy pilots are flying over Syria and Iraq.

Sources tell The Daily Beast that there are dozens of jets awaiting maintenance—and most of the planes are less than 10 years old, which by aircraft standards is practically brand new. Effectively, dozens of brand new jets worth billions of dollars are sitting on the ground useless.

The problem is neither the Navy nor Boeing has enough trained engineers to inspect and perform needed repairs on the various versions of the F/A-18.

One of the main causes of the problem, according to multiple sources, was the congressionally mandated sequester that automatically cut the Pentagon budget.

Money that was cut during 2012 budget year is only now having a real impact because the skilled engineering force of engineers and technicians at various government contractors were laid off and found other jobs since then. The result is a massive backlog of aircraft that must be repaired.


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That's weird... I saw two flying in Boston 2 weeks ago. And I don't even think there are any based in the northeast.

The F/A-18 is a pretty badass jet... it sucks they are forgetting about it in favor of the F-22 and the F-35.
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That's weird... I saw two flying in Boston 2 weeks ago. And I don't even think there are any based in the northeast.

The F/A-18 is a pretty badass jet... it sucks they are forgetting about it in favor of the F-22 and the F-35.
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They may have been headed for the far east.
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they did the same thing on 9/11 hiding
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That's weird... I saw two flying in Boston 2 weeks ago. And I don't even think there are any based in the northeast.

The F/A-18 is a pretty badass jet... it sucks they are forgetting about it in favor of the F-22 and the F-35.
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They may have been headed for the far east.
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They don't have enough range to make it across the Atlantic... if they were headed over there they would be on a carrier.

I doubt they would arrange mid-air refueling for a jet that's mainly carrier based.
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That's weird... I saw two flying in Boston 2 weeks ago. And I don't even think there are any based in the northeast.

The F/A-18 is a pretty badass jet... it sucks they are forgetting about it in favor of the F-22 and the F-35.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


They may have been headed for the far east.
 Quoting: 411


They don't have enough range to make it across the Atlantic... if they were headed over there they would be on a carrier.

I doubt they would arrange mid-air refueling for a jet that's mainly carrier based.
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I was thinking mid-air refueling but your probably right.

Maybe they came from "Oceana Naval Air Station". Google it, click the map link, switch to earth view, then zoom in.
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I was thinking mid-air refueling but your probably right.

Maybe they came from "Oceana Naval Air Station". Google it, click the map link, switch to earth view, then zoom in.
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Damn 411, you truly earn your name, you're on top of shit.

There's a whole shit ton of em there!!!
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Re: Navy Grounds Top Guns. F/A-18 Hornet strike fighter squadrons state-side grounded with only two or three flyable jets available.
The state of the art (30 years ago, anyway) F-22 just scored it's first kill against the mighty ISIS Luftwaffe!

Why Is America Wasting the F-22 Raptor on Bombing ISIS?
[link to nationalinterest.org]

Meanwhile, the F-35 still has a few billion dollar bugs to work out.

Here's Another Sign Of How Astronomically Expensive The F-35 Is
[link to www.businessinsider.com]

USA! Number $18 Trillion!

:money:flag waver:money:
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hey we have to pay for those mexicans
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Re: Navy Grounds Top Guns. F/A-18 Hornet strike fighter squadrons state-side grounded with only two or three flyable jets available.
The state of the art (30 years ago, anyway) F-22 just scored it's first kill against the mighty ISIS Luftwaffe!

Why Is America Wasting the F-22 Raptor on Bombing ISIS?
[link to nationalinterest.org]

Meanwhile, the F-35 still has a few billion dollar bugs to work out.

Here's Another Sign Of How Astronomically Expensive The F-35 Is
[link to www.businessinsider.com]

USA! Number $18 Trillion!

:money:flag waver:money:
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yeah, but we only have 8 of each of them
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Re: Navy Grounds Top Guns. F/A-18 Hornet strike fighter squadrons state-side grounded with only two or three flyable jets available.
seems pretty simple, if they want to fly, go over to bomb Islamic State. the guys flying in the war are getting all the spare parts. want spare parts? deploy!

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I love getting one starred!


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I was thinking mid-air refueling but your probably right.

Maybe they came from "Oceana Naval Air Station". Google it, click the map link, switch to earth view, then zoom in.
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Damn 411, you truly earn your name, you're on top of shit.

There's a whole shit ton of em there!!!
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I try.
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Re: Navy Grounds Top Guns. F/A-18 Hornet strike fighter squadrons state-side grounded with only two or three flyable jets available.
They can ferry 2,000 miles when carrying a maximum load of external fuel.

I don't worry too much about all this. The core combat strength is still there. All that is lost is the time required to become operationally effective.

I've studied war all my life and I can tell you there are two kinds of war. there's play war and there's real war. In real war impossible things happen at impossible speed. A ship that takes 4 years to build in peace time gets built in 4 months. Mothballed equipment gets rebuilt and put into service at unimaginable speed. And spare parts show up quickly.
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Re: Navy Grounds Top Guns. F/A-18 Hornet strike fighter squadrons state-side grounded with only two or three flyable jets available.
isnt this what the Tucsan boneyard is for?

Or is it all financial, and just another example of Obama putting American capability offline and out of the fight?





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