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OBL Dreams Of EMP Bomb Attack On USA

 
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OBL Dreams Of EMP Bomb Attack On USA
So does IRAN and all USA enemies!

by John C.K. Daly
UPI International Correspondent
Washington (UPI) Jun 22, 2006

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A former Pakistani intelligence agent who once worked closely with Osama bin Laden says that the U.S. may well be attacked with electro-magnetic pulse bombs. During a June 22 interview with Adnkronos International news agency Khalid Khawaja said, "The e-bomb shall be the new threat for the USA, not the nukes or gas attacks."
Khawaja is a retired former member of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI. After retiring, he went to Afghanistan and fought with bin Laden. Khawaja said of bin Laden, "Osama is above all this politicking. He is a great man and will remain great." Khawaja is said to retain close ties with Kashmiri militants and former Taliban leaders.

An e-bomb or electromagnetic pulse weapon is designed to disable electronic equipment over a wide area by generating an intense surge of electromagnetic radiation. The weapon generates an electromagnetic shock wave, inducing heavy currents in all electronic gadgets with semi-conducting materials, frying their circuitry.



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ahhh I can deal with candle light and no cell phone but PLEASE don't take away my GLP!!!!!
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gasp uhoh
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Believe me - the E-bomb idea is more of a movie fantasy than a weapon.
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Believe me - the E-bomb idea is more of a movie fantasy than a weapon.
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OK - and just why should we believe YOU? scratching I mean, I'm willing to if you give me a good enough reason.
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I live near Hoover. Back up in 10 minutes.
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Oh noes don't kill my gameboys!1!!1!eleventy
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The EMP threat was overhyped as a make work project for physicist who were paid good money going through the entire US arsenal testing and analyzing. Fact is, things like cars are not susceptible to EMP because they are so well sheilded. Your car doesn't crap out when lightning hits a mile away. Its the same principle. So scenes like the movie The Day After are pure fantasy.

A localized EMP bomb might take out exposed antennas and scramble some computers but the idea that it would shut down everything is a fantasy.

High altitude EMP from a nuclear weapon was discovered in the Starfish Prime detonation 500 miles from Hawaii where it set off some burglar alarms and took down some of the power grid.

Its the power grid that is most susceptible. So, it there were a nuclear EMP strike - you might see the power go out in certain areas just like when lightning strikes and equipment hooked to the power grid could be damaged in the power surge but your car will work just fine - so will transistor radios and battery operated devices.
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Those little, non-nuclear e-bombs can knock out most stuff nearby, I forget what kind of ranges but it's not far.

However if the turds had the brains to place them strategically they could do great harm.
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The EMP threat was overhyped as a make work project for physicist who were paid good money going through the entire US arsenal testing and analyzing. Fact is, things like cars are not susceptible to EMP because they are so well sheilded. Your car doesn't crap out when lightning hits a mile away. Its the same principle. So scenes like the movie The Day After are pure fantasy.

A localized EMP bomb might take out exposed antennas and scramble some computers but the idea that it would shut down everything is a fantasy.

High altitude EMP from a nuclear weapon was discovered in the Starfish Prime detonation 500 miles from Hawaii where it set off some burglar alarms and took down some of the power grid.

Its the power grid that is most susceptible. So, it there were a nuclear EMP strike - you might see the power go out in certain areas just like when lightning strikes and equipment hooked to the power grid could be damaged in the power surge but your car will work just fine - so will transistor radios and battery operated devices.
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Thank-you! Though I still believe that anything is possible - I thank-you kindly for explaining yourself so well and politely. Often a rarity here on GLP.
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Soviet EMP weapons

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Tech can zap power grids. Freeze ocean...
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3760 has it correct, electrical power transmission systems are the most vulnerable to emp attack.

The emp high altitude detonation scanario is way overblown. The only ones that could pull it off are Russia, or the US.
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I've been hearing about this scalar electromagnetics crap for years now and for the life of me - I can't figure out what the hell Bearden is talking about and I've had two semesters of undergrad and grad electromagnetic theory courses.

If he's found a new discovery why doesn't he give us a demo and freeze some water or something?

What you can do is fry electronics with a high power microwave beam - I suppose you could implant voices into people's heads as well. You could perhaps heat the ionosphere with normal e-beams. You might even try and cause quakes by causing piezoelectric vibrations in rocksat a critical frequency.

But you don't need scalar electromagnutics to change the weather - that happens all by itself according to the Greenland and Antarctic ice cores - and we don't know why. It seems to be connected to the orbital strech cycle - major glaciations.
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3760 has it correct, electrical power transmission systems are the most vulnerable to emp attack.

The emp high altitude detonation scanario is way overblown. The only ones that could pull it off are Russia, or the US.
 Quoting: Omega


The Navy set off three high altitude tests in the fifties with lower yield weapons in the 100kT range in the South Atlantic. The detonations created an aurora and the same longitude and lattitude in the Northern hemisphere as the ionization from the blast was channelled there by the Van Allen belts.

The Starfish Prime high altitude detonation over the South Pacific created one hell a light show. It was a one megaton blast and it took out most satellites then in orbit (1964). It was probably being tested as a "pin down" counter where the Soviet missiles would be unable to navigate the intense plasma and ionization. It was NOT during the Cuban missile crisis however.

One thing the DoD fears is Al Queda seizing a Pakistani missile and setting it off at high altitide because it would take out most of the low earth orbiting satellites such as spy sats and some comsats. Might even screw up GPS a little. It would be very costly and would leave the US blind for a period util replacements could be orbited.
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idiots-unless theyve invented a portable Integrated circuit Kidney dialysis machine (the size of say-a shoebox) of late, OBL has been dead for 2-3 years
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FOR THE ENTIRE GRID TO GO DOWN IMPLIES - PRE-EMPTIVE ATTACK ON THE USA.

GET READY FOR BIG PROBLEMS...
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Mainstream/Popular news = Fake news.
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He was in a hospital a month or so before Sept 11. Well documented (even on the cia site) that CIA agents visited him while he was there. He's a very wealthy man, do you really think he doesn't have the best medical care and lives in a cave?

idiots-unless theyve invented a portable Integrated circuit Kidney dialysis machine (the size of say-a shoebox) of late, OBL has been dead for 2-3 years
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I'm sure the obl lives in a very nice cave...
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Osama is not just merely dead, but really most sincerely dead, just like Ariel Sweathog Sharon is. skull_fing
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can they make french fries......or are they American Frys........Oh an American won Le Tour again.........


well.......watch the weather, it takes down power grids way better than any bomb and disease works way better than any bomb..............

Hawk won't save you either......OBL.......is he still around, I thought the CIA fired him?
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3760 has it correct, electrical power transmission systems are the most vulnerable to emp attack.

The emp high altitude detonation scanario is way overblown. The only ones that could pull it off are Russia, or the US.
[/Omega]

The Navy set off three high altitude tests in the fifties with lower yield weapons in the 100kT range in the South Atlantic. The detonations created an aurora and the same longitude and lattitude in the Northern hemisphere as the ionization from the blast was channelled there by the Van Allen belts.

The Starfish Prime high altitude detonation over the South Pacific created one hell a light show. It was a one megaton blast and it took out most satellites then in orbit (1964). It was probably being tested as a "pin down" counter where the Soviet missiles would be unable to navigate the intense plasma and ionization. It was NOT during the Cuban missile crisis however.

One thing the DoD fears is Al Queda seizing a Pakistani missile and setting it off at high altitide because it would take out most of the low earth orbiting satellites such as spy sats and some comsats. Might even screw up GPS a little. It would be very costly and would leave the US blind for a period util replacements could be orbited.
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