How the TYRANTS Topple - [Powerful Quote] | |
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s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 10/18/2014 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But what if the Tyrant has the power to destroy you should you stop serving him? (Ex. See what happens if you stop paying taxes) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48157643 Yes, direct confrontation with the tyrant gets a violent response. There are dozens of other ways. Here is Bill Buppert at free state New Hampshire talking about non violent resistance to tyranny. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Last Edited by s. d. butler on 10/18/2014 08:17 PM |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 10/18/2014 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When we stop serving them, they will fall in on their own imprint. I appreciate any and all voices who help explain this to others and are helping change the world for the better. There's a reason why this isn't taught in schools, because it would threaten the very control system that enslaves minds without them even realizing. OP what is the attribution for the quote? |
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The_Brave (OP) User ID: 1630959 United States 10/19/2014 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But what if the Tyrant has the power to destroy you should you stop serving him? (Ex. See what happens if you stop paying taxes) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48157643 See what happens if a great number of us stopped paying taxes. There's power in numbers and safety in herds. There are more of us than them :) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64159582 United States 10/19/2014 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Non violent resistance has a poor track record. Even if half the US decided to stop paying taxes, the only result is the law will come for you and your property, one at a time-from the victims perspective. The only hope of success of a non violent revolt is that the military would come to the rescue of the down trodden civilians--sort of like the guys with bigger guns helping the guys with no guns. I wonder why Obama want a civilian government force that "is just as well armed and just as well trained" as the army? Political power comes from the barrel of a gun. All else is wishful thinking. |
The_Brave (OP) User ID: 1630959 United States 10/19/2014 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time and time again. That's it period. We fund it, They run it. |
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s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 10/22/2014 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Non violent resistance has a poor track record. Even if half the US decided to stop paying taxes, the only result is the law will come for you and your property, one at a time-from the victims perspective. Quoting: Green Tabber The only hope of success of a non violent revolt is that the military would come to the rescue of the down trodden civilians--sort of like the guys with bigger guns helping the guys with no guns. I wonder why Obama want a civilian government force that "is just as well armed and just as well trained" as the army? Political power comes from the barrel of a gun. All else is wishful thinking. If half of actual tax payers quit paying the system would collapse. TPTB don't have the means or the manpower to go after that many people. |
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Anonymous Martyr User ID: 41570726 United States 10/23/2014 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In other words it is the side of all mans sin, selfishness, but the side that does not take from another, but the man who could not live with himself if he did not throw himself in front of a bus to push a little innocent out of the way. <All acts are selfish> Emanuel Kant? Gary57 |
Anonymous Martyr User ID: 41570726 United States 10/23/2014 01:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | <<If half of actual tax payers quit paying the system would collapse. TPTB don't have the means or the manpower to go after that many people.>> It would take that and that ace in the whole: a military made up of the downtrodden, and what we need to lead, the intellectuals; attorneys, judges, politicians, and the rest who if truly given a chance to join an orderly herd, and if able to escape the trappings of their office, might just think beyond their own lifespan. <<Don't fall for the traps they lay... They know damn well what they are doing and how to pin humanity against each other with their tactics of divide and conquer. We are all being manipulated and all we have is each other.>> <<Political power comes from the barrel of a gun. All else is wishful thinking.>><< Non violent resistance has a poor track record. Even if half the US decided to stop paying taxes, the only result is the law will come for you and your property, one at a time-from the victims perspective.The only hope of success of a non violent revolt is that the military would come to the rescue of the down trodden civilians--sort of like the guys with bigger guns helping the guys with no guns.>> We all thinking people know this is possible and if it can be done not so probable, but if given a true chance and the right momentum at the right time, would step beyond our singular selves and act as one. It is an insurrection always building, naturally, to bring balance. The second amendment is of little use anymore. Its true intent was to give the people the right to protect themselves from a government either overthrown as ours has been, or become impure a devoid of good intent for all. We can have guns but we cant have tanks. The time may come, very soon because the power has become brazen and flaunts its power to manipulate the letter of law. Many of those being taken advantage of are the men in the military itself. A time will come, if the pendulum doesnt hit the wall and destroy itself with us included, the tools of power may make its own destiny. <<All governments have existed because people have been convinced that they need them to survive. It's quite the opposite and people are realizing more and more there are other ways free people can act voluntarily for a better society.>> We must have government. Even no government is an expression of rejection of what is currently in control. We need a strong government that is made of the people, for the people, and in the interest for a future. We cant half step this one. We must see it through and act on what current history has shown us in its extremes. There are three and we are the extreme in the middle. Move the words around to the right place, and practice the intent of law instead of using the letter to the point of creating laws of the letter to take away our freedoms, we are poised to lead. It will take the ultimate sacrifice by those near the top and the always willing burden of those holding this market together. The "intellectuals" in this venue of life, the markets, will be a necessary sacrifice - not by their blood but the blood they live on and the trappings they make off the lives of the mass. For peaceful, and that is the only kind that will have a lasting, changing, effect, the majority will have to find themselves on the same side. We do this singularly, and gain momentum with sidelong glances, and those who dont think, jump aboard. Those with the real power recoil, over react, and lose traction since they really dont understand what they are dealing with - they are just dealing. They are the minority and the majority, if in mass and in an extreme imbalance, will dismiss the majority. To quote history at this early stage of our social evolution is too early. Give it time. We are only one foot on the bridge between animal and a self-aware animal. History shows we burn it and start again, with some technology intact. Imagine the barbarians looking and living in a simpler, more desperate life, and seeing the temples built before their time. What happened? We keep doing what we do, and more and more we reflect upon what has happened, and with the current technology we are no longer clustered but more connected. With the other side sharing the same weapons the outcome is unknown this time around. This is all very new and very fragile. To cross this bridge, technology intact, it must be a quick and sure crossing with no halts and starts half way across. It is all new, the three extremes of government and markets have all nearly been tried in different combinations except the most obvious and most effective, if we can trust ourselves. We will or we wont with a difference being made by watching eyes among the stars, whether we succeed or fail by self-imposing world that is a federalist, direct democracy with a socialist market with a balance supporting individual contribution and avoiding noncontributing power. Man must legislate himself using mechanisms insuring diversity and avoiding the hoarding of power. We will be part of the future or an important footnote in the support of another species. Gary57 |