At least three people that saw Jesus alive are still alive today.

True, very true, but I see it as a common sense understanding that he meant that they would be here on earth. He could have said I will take you to the kingdom, but no he didn't. He had a purpose, and I think it was a legal element that exist between the angels, devil and God, that demands witnesses to the legal events.

Those who are present with the Lord
never die.

perhaps he was referring to the 144,000 of Gods Election who will be "gathered" by Christs angels just prior to the dumping out of the bowls of wrath upon the rest of those herein who will have by that point been "deceived"

hence have become recipients of "the mark of such" by way of the mark of the beast

so how old might they then be?

lol

methusala type?

remains to be seen I imagine

regardless

; )

True, very true, but I see it as a common sense understanding that he meant that they would be here on earth. He could have said I will take you to the kingdom, but no he didn't. He had a purpose, and I think it was a legal element that exist between the angels, devil and God, that demands witnesses to the legal events.

perhaps War Eagle will be among them...

; )

War Eagle wishes he was. But I have my old friend the constant pain, that never ever leaves. This is hell on earth for me, without my family, it would be, but they are the heaven on earth.

physical pain?

physical pain?

Yes.

War Eagle, I have to tell you that you have blown my mind with this thread. Forever it seems there have been whispers about Immortals walking among us, most believed that to be myth. I am now beginning to think many of the so called myths are truths that TPTB have cloaked in superstition to keep us from the truth.

I believe this thread changes their agenda from an esoteric{ secret} agenda to an exoteric one ( where all secrets are divulged}..

Thank you War Eagle for the "food for thought"

I know of four.
One was one of the original apostles of Christ.
The other three I know of are what would now be called
'Aztec' descended from the travelers from Jerusalem
before it was destroyed in 600 BC, who settled in what is
now the USA.

There could be more.

There is also a high probability that Christ himself was
married and had offspring who were taken with their mother
by the Templars after his crucifixion, to what would become
Wales.

my condolences in that regard

I am no stranger to incessant pain either

having existed with chronic sciatica for most of my life

I do understand it's a constant battle simply to retain ones sanity

relief will arrive when we lay our bodies down in no uncertain terms

War Eagle, a thought just occurred to me. Do you suppose these 3 have any part to play in the 2 Witness' appearance?

It would seem logical that if they truly exist, that they would have a part to play, what do you think????

I understand your pain, I wish I could help. I had a spinal cord growth that was heck to get out. All the more reason to not give up.

there will be no "giving up" by way of same

quite the contrary in truth

however no one will retain their flesh bodies beyond the onset of the upcoming Age


it is and will be a time of Gods children existing in spiritual bodies from the onset of the Millennium forward

some having been fully resurrected, the rest having been marked as "dead"

the dead will be taught by His Election throughout the Millennial Reign

I believe you, and sincerely hope to see you there at some point in time.
I say don't give up because I tell myself that every day, when all I want to do is just relax one day without it reminding me of its presence.

They promised people they spoke to that
the kingdom was at hand.
That it would happen within their lifetimes.
Just like every preacher has in the last 2000 years.
They've all been wrong.

They promised people they spoke to that
the kingdom was at hand.
That it would happen within their lifetimes.
Just like every preacher has in the last 2000 years.
They've all been wrong.

I understand and appreciate your kindness

I can assure you this too will soon pass

; )

I googled and found this


The relationship between religion and schizophrenia is of particular interest to psychologists because of the similarities between religious experiences and psychotic episodes; religious experiences often involve auditory and/or visual hallucinations, and those with schizophrenia commonly report similar hallucinations, along with a variety of delusions and faulty beliefs. A common report from those with schizophrenia is some type of a religious delusion - that is, they believe they are divine beings, God is talking to them, they are possessed by demons, etc. In a study of patients with schizophrenia that had been previously admitted to a hospital, 24% had religious delusions. This has led some researchers to question whether schizophrenia leads an individual to become more religious, or if intense religiosity leads to schizophrenia.

In 1745, one of the most intriguing people in history visited London; a man who was said to be over two thousand years old! Some said he was in league with the Devil, others thought he was a Himalayan yogi of the highest order; all that we know is that, according to written historical references, a Count St Germain was apparently on the European scene from 1651 to 1896 - a period of 245 years.


Unable to explain the incredible lifespan of this man, the historians either omitted him from the history books or claimed several impostors in different time periods were responsible for the myth. But if we face the unadulterated facts about the count as they were written, they paint a very perplexing picture of a phenomenal man. Here then, is the story. When the English soldiers returned from the Holy Land after the third Crusade came to a disastrous end in the twelfth century, they brought back with them many fabulous tales of the mysterious Orient.

One particular story the crusaders often told was of a man known in the East as the Wandering Jew. The story went as follows. In the Judgement Hall of Pontius Pilate, there was a Jewish doorkeeper named Cartaphilus, who had actually been present at the trial of Jesus of Nazareth. When Christ was dragging his cross through the streets on the way to Calvary, he halted for a moment to rest, and at this point, Cartaphilus stepped out from the large crowd lining the route and told Jesus to hurry up.

Jesus looked at Cartaphilus and said, "I will go now, but thou shall wait until I return."

Thanks, it is better as we speak.