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What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?

 
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What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
I'll tell you what... this:


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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Your post is lacking in info, but I firmly believe magnetism is all we need to generate all the planet's power needs.

This is old knowledge, it's been done time and time again.
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Your post is lacking in info, but I firmly believe magnetism is all we need to generate all the planet's power needs.

This is old knowledge, it's been done time and time again.
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And i'm telling you how to do it right now.
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Your post is lacking in info, but I firmly believe magnetism is all we need to generate all the planet's power needs.

This is old knowledge, it's been done time and time again.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


And i'm telling you how to do it right now.
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What does the faraday cage add to the equation?
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Your post is lacking in info, but I firmly believe magnetism is all we need to generate all the planet's power needs.

This is old knowledge, it's been done time and time again.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


And i'm telling you how to do it right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60947385

What does the faraday cage add to the equation?
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


According to conventional science, nothing, since it doesn't react with magnetic fields.

but in some labs you get a standing electric wave that forms around the skin of the cage which starts a spinning toroidal inverse flow back down of space itself.
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Hmmmm:IMHO:

a moving magnetic field creates a voltage in a copper wire; which results in a current flow. if the wire is connected end to end with no load (shorted) there is no potential difference (voltage possible )in the wire.
any potential built up due to the small internal copper resistance is quickly grounded
as faraday cages are earthed.

So nothing. a second moving field in the oposite polarity would help counter any voltage created by being some degree out of phase with the first. So creating even more "nothing"


Some Inductive heating may be produced in all the random "eddy" currents created in the metal of the cage.


IMHO basically Nothing happens. but thanks for playing.
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Hmmmm:IMHO:

a moving magnetic field creates a voltage in a copper wire; which results in a current flow. if the wire is connected end to end with no load (shorted) there is no potential difference (voltage possible )in the wire.
any potential built up due to the small internal copper resistance is quickly grounded
as faraday cages are earthed.

So nothing. a second moving field in the oposite polarity would help counter any voltage created by being some degree out of phase with the first. So creating even more "nothing"


Some Inductive heating may be produced in all the random "eddy" currents created in the metal of the cage.


IMHO basically Nothing happens. but thanks for playing.
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exactly as you said. IMHO. But you are not accounting for the opposing longitudinal waves that counter eachother from each field. Which means its just your opinion and your opinion, I hate to tell you, is severely misinformed.
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Upgrade to tachyon theory, try trufax.org.
VV can help head you into new science.
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Your post is lacking in info, but I firmly believe magnetism is all we need to generate all the planet's power needs.

This is old knowledge, it's been done time and time again.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


And i'm telling you how to do it right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60947385


How can you tell someone how to do it right when you can't explain the essential details properly yourself?!


Are they in phase?

How are the magnetic fields created?

What type of coil if used?

How many Watts to lift 1 pound of payload?

Steering mechanism?

Power source?

Voltage needed?

Safety considerations?
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
The real deal is...


Mercury enclosed in an egg shape container. Heat it up and wholla.
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
C'mon, OP, give us a little more.

You clearly know more than you said in your original post. This could be an epic thread.
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Your post is lacking in info, but I firmly believe magnetism is all we need to generate all the planet's power needs.

This is old knowledge, it's been done time and time again.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


And i'm telling you how to do it right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60947385


How can you tell someone how to do it right when you can't explain the essential details properly yourself?!


Are they in phase?

How are the magnetic fields created?

What type of coil if used?

How many Watts to lift 1 pound of payload?

Steering mechanism?

Power source?

Voltage needed?

Safety considerations?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24146935


man I let the engineers worry about the details. I'm a scientist for god sake.
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Your post is lacking in info, but I firmly believe magnetism is all we need to generate all the planet's power needs.

This is old knowledge, it's been done time and time again.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


And i'm telling you how to do it right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60947385


How can you tell someone how to do it right when you can't explain the essential details properly yourself?!


Are they in phase?

How are the magnetic fields created?

What type of coil if used?

How many Watts to lift 1 pound of payload?

Steering mechanism?

Power source?

Voltage needed?

Safety considerations?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24146935


man I let the engineers worry about the details. I'm a scientist for god sake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60947385


just kidding. Of course I can't go into technical details or I'd be identified instantly and lose my job.
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
I love this thread :)

Almost all my favorite things wrapped up in one thread...

Thanks OP and everyone asking questions and contributing...
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Your post is lacking in info, but I firmly believe magnetism is all we need to generate all the planet's power needs.

This is old knowledge, it's been done time and time again.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


And i'm telling you how to do it right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60947385

What does the faraday cage add to the equation?
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


According to conventional science, nothing, since it doesn't react with magnetic fields.

but in some labs you get a standing electric wave that forms around the skin of the cage which starts a spinning toroidal inverse flow back down of space itself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60947385


So why not in any lab willing to reproduce the experiment??
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Upgrade to tachyon theory, try trufax.org.
VV can help head you into new science.
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:)

I have a theory on ^^this and copper (blood) and tachyons...but I won't bore you guys with it...I'll hang back and read...I just so excited about this stuff, it really makes me happy thinking about it...

Okay sorry OP to 'girl' up your thread with all my feelings...
What doesn't kill me only makes me stronger...
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
OP is sounding more and more like Prof. Farnsworth on an episode of Futurama.


Since you don't want to lose your job for spilling proprietary secrets, perhaps you can tell us who you work for and point us to their website. Any product information? Release dates?

Thank you.
Glutomoto

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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Upgrade to tachyon theory, try trufax.org.
VV can help head you into new science.
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:)

I have a theory on ^^this and copper (blood) and tachyons...but I won't bore you guys with it...I'll hang back and read...I just so excited about this stuff, it really makes me happy thinking about it...

Okay sorry OP to 'girl' up your thread with all my feelings...
 Quoting: Tampa Heather


I wouldn't mind hearing your theory actually. And not worries, thank you for the input.

hfspock
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Upgrade to tachyon theory, try trufax.org.
VV can help head you into new science.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63743309


:)

I have a theory on ^^this and copper (blood) and tachyons...but I won't bore you guys with it...I'll hang back and read...I just so excited about this stuff, it really makes me happy thinking about it...

Okay sorry OP to 'girl' up your thread with all my feelings...
 Quoting: Tampa Heather

C'Mon TH! Write it up for later, if need be. I'm so uninformed in this area, but so very interested in it.
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Your post is lacking in info, but I firmly believe magnetism is all we need to generate all the planet's power needs.

This is old knowledge, it's been done time and time again.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


And i'm telling you how to do it right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60947385

Someone sayz,

More showing and less telling.

I'd be interested in building a replication of something you've built that works.

I've got enough of my own space goat farts if I'm looking for an unproven concept to build.
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Your post is lacking in info, but I firmly believe magnetism is all we need to generate all the planet's power needs.

This is old knowledge, it's been done time and time again.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


And i'm telling you how to do it right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60947385


How can you tell someone how to do it right when you can't explain the essential details properly yourself?!


Are they in phase?

How are the magnetic fields created?

What type of coil if used?

How many Watts to lift 1 pound of payload?

Steering mechanism?

Power source?

Voltage needed?

Safety considerations?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24146935


man I let the engineers worry about the details. I'm a scientist for god sake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60947385

Someone sayz,

"Say goodnight, Gracie."
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
two words "magnetic braking"
Ominous regressions
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
James Clerk Maxwell understood the relationship between gravity and magnetism
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
James Clerk Maxwell understood the relationship between gravity and magnetism
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Now we're getting somewhere.

I'm sure you all have heard of the new Hendo Hoverboards ( [link to www.engadget.com] )? They really work, apparently.

The tech essentially is two rotating halback arrays ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] ) of neodymium magnets.

The key is the board must be used over a flat non-ferrous conductive surface in which the rotating magnet arrays induce eddy currents. According to Lenz law those induced currents will likewise generate a magnetic field, but of opposite polarity.

This causes the board to float about an inch from the board. The current battery config lets it run for about 12 minutes.

Here is the part that surprised me. When we talk about lift like on an airplane, there are reliable formulas for how much energy it requires to take off for a given plane loaded with a cargo of X weight. Likewise there are formulas for the energy required to keep the plane aloft for a given weight of cargo.

The amount of energy required to take off is much greater than to stay in the air, and the greater the weight of the cargo, the more energy it takes to take off and stay flying.

With the hoverboard, the heavier the weight on the board, the more energy it takes to get it lifted, but once it's lifted, the amount of energy it takes to keep it lifted is the same regardless of the weight on the board. It takes no more energy to keep 200 lbs lifted to 1" than it does to keep 2000 lbs lifted to 1".

That seems peculiar to me, but it has to do with the amount of energy required to establish field lines versus the amount it takes to keep the field lines established.
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
James Clerk Maxwell understood the relationship between gravity and magnetism
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 765405

Now we're getting somewhere.

I'm sure you all have heard of the new Hendo Hoverboards ( [link to www.engadget.com] )? They really work, apparently.

The tech essentially is two rotating halback arrays ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] ) of neodymium magnets.

The key is the board must be used over a flat non-ferrous conductive surface in which the rotating magnet arrays induce eddy currents ( [link to www.electrical4u.com] ). According to Lenz law those induced currents will likewise generate a magnetic field, but of opposite polarity.

This causes the board to float about an inch from the board. The current battery config lets it run for about 12 minutes.

Here is the part that surprised me. When we talk about lift like on an airplane, there are reliable formulas for how much energy it requires to take off for a given plane loaded with a cargo of X weight. Likewise there are formulas for the energy required to keep the plane aloft for a given weight of cargo.

The amount of energy required to take off is much greater than to stay in the air, and the greater the weight of the cargo, the more energy it takes to take off and stay flying.

With the hoverboard, the heavier the weight on the board, the more energy it takes to get it lifted, but once it's lifted, the amount of energy it takes to keep it lifted is the same regardless of the weight on the board. It takes no more energy to keep 200 lbs lifted to 1" than it does to keep 2000 lbs lifted to 1".

That seems peculiar to me, but it has to do with the amount of energy required to establish field lines versus the amount it takes to keep the field lines established.
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
Yeah, ok buddy.

A faraday cage shields against EMF not magnetic lines of flux. Try again.
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
James Clerk Maxwell understood the relationship between gravity and magnetism
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 765405

Now we're getting somewhere.

I'm sure you all have heard of the new Hendo Hoverboards ( [link to www.engadget.com] )? They really work, apparently.

The tech essentially is two rotating halback arrays ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] ) of neodymium magnets.

The key is the board must be used over a flat non-ferrous conductive surface in which the rotating magnet arrays induce eddy currents. According to Lenz law those induced currents will likewise generate a magnetic field, but of opposite polarity.

This causes the board to float about an inch from the board. The current battery config lets it run for about 12 minutes.

Here is the part that surprised me. When we talk about lift like on an airplane, there are reliable formulas for how much energy it requires to take off for a given plane loaded with a cargo of X weight. Likewise there are formulas for the energy required to keep the plane aloft for a given weight of cargo.

The amount of energy required to take off is much greater than to stay in the air, and the greater the weight of the cargo, the more energy it takes to take off and stay flying.

With the hoverboard, the heavier the weight on the board, the more energy it takes to get it lifted, but once it's lifted, the amount of energy it takes to keep it lifted is the same regardless of the weight on the board. It takes no more energy to keep 200 lbs lifted to 1" than it does to keep 2000 lbs lifted to 1".

That seems peculiar to me, but it has to do with the amount of energy required to establish field lines versus the amount it takes to keep the field lines established.
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MIC already has these 'boats'...

Not trying to be cryptic but I really don't like to talk about this stuff...my *uncle* works 'around' this stuff and because of my other 'skills' well, I'll just leave it at that...

I will write up my hypothesis that I mentioned up thread and post it one day soon...if this thread is still going I will post it here first :)

I've mentioned it before on GLP a few times on different threads...I didn't come up with it entirely on my own...actually member Voltaic actually explained to me (in engineering/physics terms) what I was experiencing...I knew I was attracting tachyons, and their info, I just didn't know how...

All about slowing the spin of the copper atom which turns the copper atom into a magnet of sorts...

...I've another diagram in my head of a copper tube, lined with zinc, and water inside of it...for another time...
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Re: What if you overlap two counter rotating magnetic fields around a faraday cage?
OP, maybe what you're seeing is synchrotron radiation? I mean there are crazy high energy particles (dare I say positrons?) in the atmosphere now...
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