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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64645611 United States 10/29/2014 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How are you guys going to break it to the world that we never went to the moon and that it was all staged? Are you hoping one day everyone will be in the right mood to receive that information? Are you planning to just suppression advancement and keep the masses stupid forever? Once it's 50 years or 75 years since the last moon landing, wtf are you planning to do then? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46991188 Thread: MOST OBVIOUS PROOF MOON LANDINGS FAKED Thread: OFFICIAL NASA VIDEO ADMITS To NEVER SENDING PEOPLE TO THE MOON Thread: WHERE THE FUK ARE The PICTURES AND VIDEOS OF COMET SIDING SPRING?! I CALL BULLSHIT!!!!! My favorite..the photo of the Apollo landing on the moon because if thats fucking true the camera crew that took the picture were actually the first people on the moon...lol...10/28/2014 rocket launch of 20 feet high then it explodes..lol..ya we've been to the moon but can't seem to get a single fucking rocket in the sky.. Watch past video of NASA shuttles after launch...they arc in the high atmosphere never breaching 80,000 feet... YOU CANNOT GO HIGHER THAN 80,000 FEET! SEE Branson the Virgin mogel and his attempts...engine stops at 80,000 feet Furthermore the scientific explanation of rockets along with physics proves rockets won't work in a vacuum like space without matter to push off of. There are 4 major ideas on presented on the Internet, including NASA web sites, as to how rockets generate thrust in space 1. Newton’s 3rd Law : for every force there is an equal and opposite 2. Newtons’s 2nd Law : Force = Mass x Acceleration 3. Conservation of Momentum 4. The use of a specialized nozzle to accelerate the gas inside the ship, concentrate and aim the gas jet I will address each of these issues showing why they are invalid. In addition I will review the results (and lack thereof) of the founders of space rocketry Obereth (who designed most of the rocket science for the Fritz Lang film Woman in the Moon), Goddard, who was the first to claim an experimental result proving vacuum thrust and Clarke, a champion of Newton’s 3rd law. There’s obviously too much to cover in one post so I’ll start by addressing the most popular response to those who question how rockets operate in the vacuum of space: Newton’s 3rd Law, that is to say that a rocket when it exhausts propellant will be pushed in the opposite direction. The problem with applying Newton’s 3rd is that the rocket’s propellant does not generate force in a vacuum according to the laws of physics and chemistry. If the force of the propellant is 0 then Newton’s 3rd states that Force on Rocket=-Force of Gas. If Force of Gas = 0 the rocket does not move. Why doesn’t the propellant generate any force, it's expanding, right? There is something known as “Free Expansion” or the “Joule-Thomson” effect, named after James Prescott Joule and J.J. Thompson two of the founders of the field of Physical Chemistry. [link to www.etomica.org] ... ound2.html Free Expansion states that when a pressurized gas is exposed to a vacuum the gas expanding into the vacuum without any work being done. The gas is not “pulled” or “sucked” into the vacuum nor is it “pushed” out of the high-pressure container. In other words no work is done, no heat or energy is lost. This result has been experimentally verified numerous times since its discovery in the 1850’s. [for example a paper in the Journal of Physical Chemistry from 1902: [link to pubs.acs.org] As if Free Expansion wasn’t enough to invalidate the theory of rockets producing a force in a vacuum there is also a result from thermodynamics: Work = Pressure x Change_in_Volume that is easily found searching for “W=PV” [link to lsc.ucdavis.edu] If the pressure of a system is 0 then the work done by the expanding gas into that system is 0. Gas expanding in a vacuum doing no work agrees with Free Expansion. This can also be understood as the gas meets no resistance as it exits into the vacuum and thus transfers neither heat nor energy to its surroundings. If the gas loses neither heat nor energy then it has done no work. At this point we have a rocket with high-pressure gas generated from liquid fuel that can release the gas into a vacuum but has no way to produce a force while doing so. As soon as the nozzle is opened the gasses escape without doing any work. Therefore the 3rd Law is rendered useless. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5439482 United States 10/29/2014 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well the boomers are the only ones who care anyway. Personally i think it was all cover for making icbms. That is why iran and nk have both sent animals into space now. It cracks me up how if the launch is for science it is a rocket, but if it is for war it is a missle. Quit falling for semantic games people. I have another question. If we really have moon rocks, why arent they the most valuable thing on the planet. I mean, you can dig as deep and as long as you want, you will never find a moon rock. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46438098 United States 11/01/2014 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I FIGURED IT OUT!!! Fake first contact with aliens and have the government say "the aliens asked us to do these hoaxes". We can make up anything to make this sound reasonable like the aliens want us to stay on earth until we're ready for incorporation into the galactic empire or whatever. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46438098 United States 11/01/2014 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I FIGURED IT OUT!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46438098 Fake first contact with aliens and have the government say "the aliens asked us to do these hoaxes". We can make up anything to make this sound reasonable like the aliens want us to stay on earth until we're ready for incorporation into the galactic empire or whatever. This way we can say "the aliens made us do it" and deflect all accountability |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46438098 United States 11/01/2014 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I FIGURED IT OUT!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46438098 Fake first contact with aliens and have the government say "the aliens asked us to do these hoaxes". We can make up anything to make this sound reasonable like the aliens want us to stay on earth until we're ready for incorporation into the galactic empire or whatever. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46420894 United States 11/02/2014 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I FIGURED IT OUT!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46438098 Fake first contact with aliens and have the government say "the aliens asked us to do these hoaxes". We can make up anything to make this sound reasonable like the aliens want us to stay on earth until we're ready for incorporation into the galactic empire or whatever. This way we can say "the aliens made us do it" and deflect all accountability Any shills think this would work? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46962021 United States 11/03/2014 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is a shill? Quoting: Astral Goat Is that the person in store who goes Oooo these slacks fit great what great material they r made of! Shills are people paid to argue an agenda. Sell outs who protect the official story at all costs. They will never budge on anything no matter what you throw at them. It is like trying to argue with a record player. You can think of them as people with IQs of 45 who think they're road scholars. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46313044 United States 11/03/2014 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is a shill? Quoting: Astral Goat Is that the person in store who goes Oooo these slacks fit great what great material they r made of! Shills are people paid to argue an agenda. Sell outs who protect the official story at all costs. They will never budge on anything no matter what you throw at them. It is like trying to argue with a record player. You can think of them as people with IQs of 45 who think they're road scholars. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56328430 United States 11/07/2014 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is a shill? Quoting: Astral Goat Is that the person in store who goes Oooo these slacks fit great what great material they r made of! Shills are people paid to argue an agenda. Sell outs who protect the official story at all costs. They will never budge on anything no matter what you throw at them. It is like trying to argue with a record player. You can think of them as people with IQs of 45 who think they're road scholars. |
Joe42 User ID: 61754891 United States 11/07/2014 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How are you guys going to break it to the world that we never went to the moon and that it was all staged? Are you hoping one day everyone will be in the right mood to receive that information? Are you planning to just suppression advancement and keep the masses stupid forever? Once it's 50 years or 75 years since the last moon landing, wtf are you planning to do then? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46991188 Thread: MOST OBVIOUS PROOF MOON LANDINGS FAKED Thread: OFFICIAL NASA VIDEO ADMITS To NEVER SENDING PEOPLE TO THE MOON Thread: WHERE THE FUK ARE The PICTURES AND VIDEOS OF COMET SIDING SPRING?! I CALL BULLSHIT!!!!! My favorite..the photo of the Apollo landing on the moon because if thats fucking true the camera crew that took the picture were actually the first people on the moon...lol...10/28/2014 rocket launch of 20 feet high then it explodes..lol..ya we've been to the moon but can't seem to get a single fucking rocket in the sky.. Watch past video of NASA shuttles after launch...they arc in the high atmosphere never breaching 80,000 feet... YOU CANNOT GO HIGHER THAN 80,000 FEET! SEE Branson the Virgin mogel and his attempts...engine stops at 80,000 feet Furthermore the scientific explanation of rockets along with physics proves rockets won't work in a vacuum like space without matter to push off of. There are 4 major ideas on presented on the Internet, including NASA web sites, as to how rockets generate thrust in space 1. Newton’s 3rd Law : for every force there is an equal and opposite 2. Newtons’s 2nd Law : Force = Mass x Acceleration 3. Conservation of Momentum 4. The use of a specialized nozzle to accelerate the gas inside the ship, concentrate and aim the gas jet I will address each of these issues showing why they are invalid. In addition I will review the results (and lack thereof) of the founders of space rocketry Obereth (who designed most of the rocket science for the Fritz Lang film Woman in the Moon), Goddard, who was the first to claim an experimental result proving vacuum thrust and Clarke, a champion of Newton’s 3rd law. There’s obviously too much to cover in one post so I’ll start by addressing the most popular response to those who question how rockets operate in the vacuum of space: Newton’s 3rd Law, that is to say that a rocket when it exhausts propellant will be pushed in the opposite direction. The problem with applying Newton’s 3rd is that the rocket’s propellant does not generate force in a vacuum according to the laws of physics and chemistry. If the force of the propellant is 0 then Newton’s 3rd states that Force on Rocket=-Force of Gas. If Force of Gas = 0 the rocket does not move. Why doesn’t the propellant generate any force, it's expanding, right? There is something known as “Free Expansion” or the “Joule-Thomson” effect, named after James Prescott Joule and J.J. Thompson two of the founders of the field of Physical Chemistry. [link to www.etomica.org] ... ound2.html Free Expansion states that when a pressurized gas is exposed to a vacuum the gas expanding into the vacuum without any work being done. The gas is not “pulled” or “sucked” into the vacuum nor is it “pushed” out of the high-pressure container. In other words no work is done, no heat or energy is lost. This result has been experimentally verified numerous times since its discovery in the 1850’s. [for example a paper in the Journal of Physical Chemistry from 1902: [link to pubs.acs.org] As if Free Expansion wasn’t enough to invalidate the theory of rockets producing a force in a vacuum there is also a result from thermodynamics: Work = Pressure x Change_in_Volume that is easily found searching for “W=PV” [link to lsc.ucdavis.edu] If the pressure of a system is 0 then the work done by the expanding gas into that system is 0. Gas expanding in a vacuum doing no work agrees with Free Expansion. This can also be understood as the gas meets no resistance as it exits into the vacuum and thus transfers neither heat nor energy to its surroundings. If the gas loses neither heat nor energy then it has done no work. At this point we have a rocket with high-pressure gas generated from liquid fuel that can release the gas into a vacuum but has no way to produce a force while doing so. As soon as the nozzle is opened the gasses escape without doing any work. Therefore the 3rd Law is rendered useless. This is bullshit science here, yes a rocket does work in space...The rocket pushes against the gases propelled out, the gases push against the rocket. Imagine you and your buddy are floating in space holding on to each other, you place your feet against each others, knees bent, and both push off at the same time, both of you would move away from each other yes? or does space somehow stop this? the rocket is doing the same thing against its own expelled gases (aren't you glad this signature isn't rediculously long) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64900214 United States 11/07/2014 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the moon landing is a hoax, it will be the last nail in the coffin of the American empire. Personally, I don't know if its real or fake, but I do know, if I was a shill manager, I would put a heavy team on defending the moon landing. Its literally the last nut-and-bolt holding the machine together. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60012532 United States 11/07/2014 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch past video of NASA shuttles after launch...they arc in the high atmosphere never breaching 80,000 feet... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64645611 YOU CANNOT GO HIGHER THAN 80,000 FEET! SEE Branson the Virgin mogel and his attempts...engine stops at 80,000 feet Furthermore the scientific explanation of rockets along with physics proves rockets won't work in a vacuum like space without matter to push off of. Dude what about satellites??? How the fuck did we get them up there? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57847826 United States 11/07/2014 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch past video of NASA shuttles after launch...they arc in the high atmosphere never breaching 80,000 feet... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64645611 YOU CANNOT GO HIGHER THAN 80,000 FEET! SEE Branson the Virgin mogel and his attempts...engine stops at 80,000 feet Furthermore the scientific explanation of rockets along with physics proves rockets won't work in a vacuum like space without matter to push off of. Dude what about satellites??? How the fuck did we get them up there? "Satellites" are just genetically modified fireflies released into the sky by the Illuminati to fool us into thinking we can reach space. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46425727 United States 11/08/2014 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch past video of NASA shuttles after launch...they arc in the high atmosphere never breaching 80,000 feet... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64645611 YOU CANNOT GO HIGHER THAN 80,000 FEET! SEE Branson the Virgin mogel and his attempts...engine stops at 80,000 feet Furthermore the scientific explanation of rockets along with physics proves rockets won't work in a vacuum like space without matter to push off of. Dude what about satellites??? How the fuck did we get them up there? Satellites are just barely above the atmosphere. Rockets are 1000 times more effective with earth's atmosphere to push against. You get very little thrust in a vacuum with nothing to push against. Blow up a balloon and let it go and it will fly across the room. Blow up a balloon and let it go in a vacuum and it will barely go anywhere. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37358582 United States 11/24/2014 04:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch past video of NASA shuttles after launch...they arc in the high atmosphere never breaching 80,000 feet... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64645611 YOU CANNOT GO HIGHER THAN 80,000 FEET! SEE Branson the Virgin mogel and his attempts...engine stops at 80,000 feet Furthermore the scientific explanation of rockets along with physics proves rockets won't work in a vacuum like space without matter to push off of. Dude what about satellites??? How the fuck did we get them up there? Speaking of shills! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37358582 United States 11/24/2014 04:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is a shill? Quoting: Astral Goat Is that the person in store who goes Oooo these slacks fit great what great material they r made of! Shills are people paid to argue an agenda. Sell outs who protect the official story at all costs. They will never budge on anything no matter what you throw at them. It is like trying to argue with a record player. You can think of them as people with IQs of 45 who think they're road scholars. Sold their soul cheap! |