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Russia is collapsing

 
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Russia is just fine :) Putin is doing a good job change is a good thing new rules for a new world is what is needed respect for one anther is all that is needed you are guided be heavenly bodies moving through the shadows they cast and the light they bring let the UN be a light a light of neutral ground let all bring there truth and the world will do the right thing
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strange how they are suppose to be going in the crap can when for some strange reason their economy was better this year then ever before. They also are in the black rather then like the US so damn far in debt we will never get it all paid off.
 Quoting: pmb1


Russias economy?
weapons and oil.
Thats Russian economy..

None of that benefits the general public.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1937662


Raw materials and petroleum
Their customers for high end weapons have
self destructed one by one in recent years.
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The irrationality and immaturity of the Putin cheerleaders here is astounding.

Someone points out that Russia's really not an epitome of freedom and prosperity.

Your stock reply is: "Yeah, but what about America?!". What the hell? If America is bad, is Russia that much better? You never even try to demonstrate how Russia's better. You just blurt out "Yeah, but what about America?!" as if that's reason enough.

You've been trapped in either-or mentality. You think that you have to choose sides between Russia and the west and blindly support your side (like you do with Putin and Russia). Since you can't stand the idea of supporting the west, you think your only option is to support Russia no matter what kind of a country Russia is.

To me Russia is a near-dictatorship with no freedoms to speak of. It doesn't mean that I don't see what's wrong with America or the west, or that I would accept any of it. Unlike you, I'm not going to choose a side and support it blindly. Both the west and Russia are corrupt and aggressive and both need to change.

Saying that Putin is fighting the New World Order is ridiculous. He's fighting to increase Russia's global influence, wealth and his own power. Just like US and American presidents have been doing for the last decades. How is this Putin fighting the New World Order? Is any of it aimed at increasing your liberties or freeing you from NWO? No. He just wants to get more influence in NWO. "Here's the new boss, same as the old boss."
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hesright
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this is thread clearly shows how many sheeple are out there.

So much commie love its amazing O.O

We need 2 diff FEMA camps 1 for ebola suspects and 1 for the commie lovers.

Russia has no power. They are lucky cause they have nukes otherwise russia would be wiped out long time ago.

Bye Bye Russia and our commie lovers...
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10/30/2014 08:35 AM
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this is thread clearly shows how many sheeple are out there.

So much commie love its amazing O.O

We need 2 diff FEMA camps 1 for ebola suspects and 1 for the commie lovers.

Russia has no power. They are lucky cause they have nukes otherwise russia would be wiped out long time ago.

Bye Bye Russia and our commie lovers...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64672204


socilaist US and socialist EU is far more close to communism than ever respect Russia
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Russia is the last bastion of freedom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64348032

WTF?

No political opposition.
No freedom of press.
No rights for the minorities (e.g. gays, lesbians, and if you were a black person you'd hate living in Russia)
Economy is based on bribes and being friends with oligarchs
Totally corrupt police and legal system

You really think that's freedom?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64670254


You just described American system except for the bolded part, but blacks have no place in Russia anyway so its all good...
 Quoting: Matjaz


There is LITERALLY now NO opposition press at all in Russia.
And try publicly criticizing Putin or his friends like
people constantly do the American president and you'll be in prison for a long time.
Rich people in the cities of Russia get blue lights for their cars to weave in and out of the riff raff.
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10/30/2014 08:36 AM
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u kidding?

Russia is the last bastion of freedom.

Putin is one smart cookie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64348032


Thats funny.
he has opposition killed.
everyone lives hand to mouth and crime and corruption are rampant and minimized because they originate with the bureaucrats.
there are a flood of people desperate to leave but they have nothing to take with them like money or savings.
Russias a return to monarchical rule where quality of live is proportional to fealty to the ruling class.
There is no independence because all aspects of economy is controlled by Putin and his oligarchs.
The only thing a Russian ccan have is promises of Russian martial glory while they live with 3 generations in a crumbling 600 sq ft flat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1937662


Can a Russian enjoy his food? Read good literature? Look at the stars at night? Work hard for what little he does get? Can a Russian love his family? Can a Russian just be human and find glory in his days? Why do you look down on the Russian merely because you don't like his government?

Look I've met and worked with people who worked and survived the Siberian mines, let alone the Afghani invasion.
Despite all that, they eat and enjoy the sky the same way I do.
 Quoting: Foilage


Very funny turok, even a basketball american can do the exact same thing.
Enjoying ones food is enhanced when one is starving
Enjoying ones sky is enhanced when someone is busy looking behind them because of fear of corruption at every level.
Nice try with the platitudes tovarish!
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10/30/2014 08:36 AM
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Russia is like a dying star. Finally exhausted, in its final throes it will rapidly expand to swallow its neighbors, before collapsing in on itself.
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10/30/2014 08:37 AM
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Putins power base population dont actually care about their well being, they can drink vodka all day in their shambly surroundings, thats Russia's symptom, they can maintain strong aggressive state on shitty economy because of people mentality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 535854


to a large extent you are correct.
they are a country of functioning alcoholics and
they enable and support oneanother's alcoholism, and
the whole system seems to run perfectly well :)
and they are a rugged and hearty people...

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 Quoting: Holy Cow!_33


Still imagine if there wouldnt be so much hard licker consuming sky would be the limit.
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10/30/2014 08:38 AM
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Russia is like a dying star. Finally exhausted, in its final throes it will rapidly expand to swallow its neighbors, before collapsing in on itself.
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maybe it's a white dwarf, a neutron star already
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10/30/2014 08:41 AM
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strange how they are suppose to be going in the crap can when for some strange reason their economy was better this year then ever before. They also are in the black rather then like the US so damn far in debt we will never get it all paid off.
 Quoting: pmb1


Russias economy?
weapons and oil.
Thats Russian economy..

None of that benefits the general public.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1937662


Raw materials and petroleum

Their customers for high end weapons have
self destructed one by one in recent years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50115627


The fact is theres no real consumer economy
Outside of the major cities its subsistence living.
the rampant alcoholism and drug epidemic as well as growing acceptance of izlame by ethnic Russians is a direct result of endemic hopelessness of the general public
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10/30/2014 08:43 AM
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Texas' GDP is $1,144.695 billion
Russia's GDP is $1,231.89 billion

Italy's GDP is bigger than Russia

[link to www.economist.com]
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u kidding?

Russia is the last bastion of freedom.

Putin is one smart cookie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64348032


Thats funny.
he has opposition killed.
everyone lives hand to mouth and crime and corruption are rampant and minimized because they originate with the bureaucrats.
there are a flood of people desperate to leave but they have nothing to take with them like money or savings.
Russias a return to monarchical rule where quality of live is proportional to fealty to the ruling class.
There is no independence because all aspects of economy is controlled by Putin and his oligarchs.
The only thing a Russian ccan have is promises of Russian martial glory while they live with 3 generations in a crumbling 600 sq ft flat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1937662


You must be stuck in 1994, Russia in 2014 is much diffrent. Nobody want to leave and people dont live mouth to mouth. As a matter of fact Russians havent had it that good in decades. Thats the main reason Putn is so popular.
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10/30/2014 08:44 AM
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Here's Ron Paul being totally wrong about
Russia and the US Dollar just 2 months ago.

US Sanctions on Russia May Sink the Dollar
[link to www.ronpaulinstitute.org]
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10/30/2014 08:45 AM
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Re: Russia is collapsing
u kidding?

Russia is the last bastion of freedom.

Putin is one smart cookie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64348032


Thats funny.
he has opposition killed.
everyone lives hand to mouth and crime and corruption are rampant and minimized because they originate with the bureaucrats.
there are a flood of people desperate to leave but they have nothing to take with them like money or savings.
Russias a return to monarchical rule where quality of live is proportional to fealty to the ruling class.
There is no independence because all aspects of economy is controlled by Putin and his oligarchs.
The only thing a Russian ccan have is promises of Russian martial glory while they live with 3 generations in a crumbling 600 sq ft flat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1937662


Can a Russian enjoy his food? Read good literature? Look at the stars at night? Work hard for what little he does get? Can a Russian love his family? Can a Russian just be human and find glory in his days? Why do you look down on the Russian merely because you don't like his government?

Look I've met and worked with people who worked and survived the Siberian mines, let alone the Afghani invasion.
Despite all that, they eat and enjoy the sky the same way I do.
 Quoting: Foilage


They don't deserve a better quality of life? If so just say so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28251674


Its not a question of deserving. Its a question of realism; and doing the best that you can with what little you have.

All I know is that life happens to the best of us. We don't necessarily ever get to choose much, except how to react.

In Canada i've met and worked with some real Russian survivors, working in the cold all winter. I've seen them prosper and work against great prejudice even in Canada, as a super-minority, against other minorities like the Italians in construction. I've worked in lock-step with their grit and found them able and deep in their humanity. There are some real hero's out there. And to this day, I often like a Russian males voice, like a strong cup of coffee.
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10/30/2014 08:47 AM
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Russia is the last bastion of freedom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64348032

WTF?

No political opposition.
No freedom of press.
No rights for the minorities (e.g. gays, lesbians, and if you were a black person you'd hate living in Russia)
Economy is based on bribes and being friends with oligarchs
Totally corrupt police and legal system

You really think that's freedom?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64670254


the rumor is that putin likes little boys..disgusting. Creepy phuque
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Russia is the last bastion of freedom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64348032

WTF?

No political opposition.
No freedom of press.
No rights for the minorities (e.g. gays, lesbians, and if you were a black person you'd hate living in Russia)
Economy is based on bribes and being friends with oligarchs
Totally corrupt police and legal system

You really think that's freedom?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64670254


the rumor is that putin likes little boys..disgusting. Creepy phuque
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 888381

You still being turned on by that picture of him hugging a boy on red square ?
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Russia is the last bastion of freedom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64348032

WTF?

No political opposition.
No freedom of press.
No rights for the minorities (e.g. gays, lesbians, and if you were a black person you'd hate living in Russia)
Economy is based on bribes and being friends with oligarchs
Totally corrupt police and legal system

You really think that's freedom?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64670254


You just described American system except for the bolded part, but blacks have no place in Russia anyway so its all good...
 Quoting: Matjaz


There is LITERALLY now NO opposition press at all in Russia.
And try publicly criticizing Putin or his friends like
people constantly do the American president and you'll be in prison for a long time.
Rich people in the cities of Russia get blue lights for their cars to weave in and out of the riff raff.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50115627


Blue lights are on the police vehicles but they are given to connnected individuals to essentially make them untouchable by the police.
The police carry AKs and so do the bodyguards for the elites.
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this is thread clearly shows how many sheeple are out there.

So much commie love its amazing O.O

We need 2 diff FEMA camps 1 for ebola suspects and 1 for the commie lovers.

Russia has no power. They are lucky cause they have nukes otherwise russia would be wiped out long time ago.

Bye Bye Russia and our commie lovers...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64672204


LMAO Russia's conventional forces now outnumber NATO. When the wall came down the EURO weenies disarmed and kept sucking at the US taxpayer's teat. The US is now bankrupt with a commie in charge. Good luck.

My prediction... Russia and Germany split Europe, it's been done before.
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Fifty-six journalists have been killed in Russia since 1992, and 64% of those were murdered.
Russia is the fifth-deadliest place to be a journalist.

Source: Committee to Protect Journalists
[link to cpj.org (secure)]
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10/30/2014 08:50 AM
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Vladimir Putin is the most effective leader in the world.
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u kidding?

Russia is the last bastion of freedom.

Putin is one smart cookie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64348032


Thats funny.
he has opposition killed.
everyone lives hand to mouth and crime and corruption are rampant and minimized because they originate with the bureaucrats.
there are a flood of people desperate to leave but they have nothing to take with them like money or savings.
Russias a return to monarchical rule where quality of live is proportional to fealty to the ruling class.
There is no independence because all aspects of economy is controlled by Putin and his oligarchs.
The only thing a Russian ccan have is promises of Russian martial glory while they live with 3 generations in a crumbling 600 sq ft flat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1937662


You must be stuck in 1994, Russia in 2014 is much diffrent. Nobody want to leave and people dont live mouth to mouth. As a matter of fact Russians havent had it that good in decades. Thats the main reason Putn is so popular.
 Quoting: Matjaz


I don't think its that good, but I'll go with you half way.

Russia's Growing Middle Class in for a Scare
[link to www.themoscowtimes.com]

That said I've never been to Russia, so take what i read with a grain of salt.
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Fifty-six journalists have been killed in Russia since 1992, and 64% of those were murdered.
Russia is the fifth-deadliest place to be a journalist.

Source: Committee to Protect Journalists
[link to cpj.org (secure)]
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How many Americans were killed since 1992 ? Anyone count ?
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Fifty-six journalists have been killed in Russia since 1992, and 64% of those were murdered.
Russia is the fifth-deadliest place to be a journalist.

Source: Committee to Protect Journalists
[link to cpj.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50115627


To be a "western" (read: Zionist) journalist?
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Russia is the last bastion of freedom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64348032

WTF?

No political opposition.
No freedom of press.
No rights for the minorities (e.g. gays, lesbians, and if you were a black person you'd hate living in Russia)
Economy is based on bribes and being friends with oligarchs
Totally corrupt police and legal system

You really think that's freedom?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64670254


the rumor is that putin likes little boys..disgusting. Creepy phuque
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 888381


People who attain power generally try to find some activities that push boundries even for them.
Narcissists hate the concept of 'forbidden' and try to overcome it wherever they find it.
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Russia is the last bastion of freedom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64348032

WTF?

No political opposition.
No freedom of press.
No rights for the minorities (e.g. gays, lesbians, and if you were a black person you'd hate living in Russia)
Economy is based on bribes and being friends with oligarchs
Totally corrupt police and legal system

You really think that's freedom?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64670254


the rumor is that putin likes little boys..disgusting. Creepy phuque
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 888381


anybody can spread rumor just like cancer story....bsflag
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u kidding?

Russia is the last bastion of freedom.

Putin is one smart cookie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64348032


Thats funny.
he has opposition killed.
everyone lives hand to mouth and crime and corruption are rampant and minimized because they originate with the bureaucrats.
there are a flood of people desperate to leave but they have nothing to take with them like money or savings.
Russias a return to monarchical rule where quality of live is proportional to fealty to the ruling class.
There is no independence because all aspects of economy is controlled by Putin and his oligarchs.
The only thing a Russian ccan have is promises of Russian martial glory while they live with 3 generations in a crumbling 600 sq ft flat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1937662


You must be stuck in 1994, Russia in 2014 is much diffrent. Nobody want to leave and people dont live mouth to mouth. As a matter of fact Russians havent had it that good in decades. Thats the main reason Putn is so popular.
 Quoting: Matjaz


I don't think its that good, but I'll go with you half way.

Russia's Growing Middle Class in for a Scare
[link to www.themoscowtimes.com]

That said I've never been to Russia, so take what i read with a grain of salt.
 Quoting: Foilage


I'm not saying standard of living is the same as in west. But people sure arent starving. Standard living in major cities specially Moscow can be pretty high. I know 20 years ago you could barelly spot a Russian tourist in Adriatic coast and even if, it was some billionare. Now the beaches are full of them midlle class. Russians, Germans and Brits, biggest tourists hordes you'll find on European beaches.

Sometime I feel people in the west still think people are waiting in lines in Russia.
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Fifty-six journalists have been killed in Russia since 1992, and 64% of those were murdered.
Russia is the fifth-deadliest place to be a journalist.

Source: Committee to Protect Journalists
[link to cpj.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50115627

How many Americans were killed since 1992 ? Anyone count ?
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 64671942


Russia's homicide rate is twice as bad as America's.
Russia has a homicide rate of 9.7 per 100,000, compared with 4.7 per 100,000 in the U.S.


Russia's population has fallen by 6.6 million since 1993. That's the equivalent of Massachusetts.
Russia's population was 141.9 million in 2010 and is projected to fall 10.7% to 126.6 million by 2050.

What countries are people risking their lives to live in?
The UK and the USA.
Nobody's beating down Russia's door to get in.
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Fifty-six journalists have been killed in Russia since 1992, and 64% of those were murdered.
Russia is the fifth-deadliest place to be a journalist.

Source: Committee to Protect Journalists
[link to cpj.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50115627

How many Americans were killed since 1992 ? Anyone count ?
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 64671942


Russia's homicide rate is twice as bad as America's.
Russia has a homicide rate of 9.7 per 100,000, compared with 4.7 per 100,000 in the U.S.


Russia's population has fallen by 6.6 million since 1993. That's the equivalent of Massachusetts.
Russia's population was 141.9 million in 2010 and is projected to fall 10.7% to 126.6 million by 2050.

What countries are people risking their lives to live in?
The UK and the USA.
Nobody's beating down Russia's door to get in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50115627

American journalists killed in America. No statistics exist, eh ?

Russia's depopulation is a serious problem.

No one is keeping them in. People can leave. And return.
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Fifty-six journalists have been killed in Russia since 1992, and 64% of those were murdered.
Russia is the fifth-deadliest place to be a journalist.

Source: Committee to Protect Journalists
[link to cpj.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50115627

How many Americans were killed since 1992 ? Anyone count ?
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 64671942


Russia's homicide rate is twice as bad as America's.
Russia has a homicide rate of 9.7 per 100,000, compared with 4.7 per 100,000 in the U.S.


Russia's population has fallen by 6.6 million since 1993. That's the equivalent of Massachusetts.
Russia's population was 141.9 million in 2010 and is projected to fall 10.7% to 126.6 million by 2050.


What countries are people risking their lives to live in?
The UK and the USA.
Nobody's beating down Russia's door to get in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50115627


Thats just a trend. Same in Europe. At some point when nature will require, the curve will go up again. Its a matter of over population. Too bad corporations are too greedy and cant wait for that so they import people.





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