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Lockheed Martin scientist on deathbed says aliens are real (VIDEO) RT News Disclosure - UPDATE PAGE 2

 
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Reported on RT.com today
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Aliens, some as old as 200 years, are real and have visited Earth, a former Lockheed Martin senior scientist has claimed. In his final moments, he provided “photo evidence” while sharing his personal experiences of UFOs and extraterrestrials.

The controversial 33-minute video was made shortly before Boyd Bushman died on August 7, 2014. However, the footage has only recently emerged and is starting to garner widespread attention.

“I do have a top secret clearance,” he affirms at the beginning of the video. He goes on to state that incidents such as Roswell in 1947 – when a military Air Force surveillance balloon crashed – happened at the hands of aliens.

Bushman shared details about aliens, UFOs, and anti-gravity technology – which he says is being developed by US, Russian, and Chinese scientists at Area 51 (the US military facility).

In the video, Bushman is seen holding up second-hand “photo evidence” of aliens while describing them to viewers.

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Boyd Bushman - His Last Interview: A Documentary on Area 51 and UFO's over Tucson, Arizona

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But I want to add, even if people all agree that yeah those ufos are up there; that does not mean that we will know and understand what it is. It does not mean aliens are visiting necessarily. We have no idea. I have no idea what it is so I cant add anything here. But I have been trying to figure it out for a long time. So I have read a lot and looked at a lot of pictures trying to find someone who knows something.
The only thing I have learned is we know nothing. We have lots of ideas.
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I suppose until an alien craft comes and hovers over hour house, when we are able to capture it on our stupid smart phone, we will believe it.
even then, others will not.
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yeah, even if you capture it on your smartphone even your best friend wont believe it and find any excuse to not believe it. It is difficult for people obviously. Not something anyone will just say "oh wow, now THAT picture looks real!" Because it wont look real even if you saw it for real. How could it look real when it is not anything that has been seen before?

I stand by the truth that in the end we just all have to see it and go from there.
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Good catch OP

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Bullshit. His alien is a toy.
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proof please
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Here.

[link to www.openminds.tv]
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Case Closed!

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Bullshit. His alien is a toy.
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proof please
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Here.

[link to www.openminds.tv]
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Thanks for sharing....isn't it so cute!
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Case Closed!

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The toy itself cannot be seen as evidence that Boyd is a liar. The toy can be a part of a disinformation program and people would say: "Ah, you see it's just a toy, so he is a liar".

However, the photos of Boyd can't also be seen as evidence.

My conclusion: the photos are probably fake but I cannot rule out that the toy is a part of a disinformation program.
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The toy itself cannot be seen as evidence that Boyd is a liar. The toy can be a part of a disinformation program and people would say: "Ah, you see it's just a toy, so he is a liar".

However, the photos of Boyd can't also be seen as evidence.

My conclusion: the photos are probably fake but I cannot rule out that the toy is a part of a disinformation program.
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nobody cares for your 'conclusion', everyone can think for themselves dont they
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I would tend to believe this however the last sentence of the photo being available at Walmart tends to make me think he was senile or just trolling for some last laughs
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The toy itself cannot be seen as evidence that Boyd is a liar. The toy can be a part of a disinformation program and people would say: "Ah, you see it's just a toy, so he is a liar".

However, the photos of Boyd can't also be seen as evidence.

My conclusion: the photos are probably fake but I cannot rule out that the toy is a part of a disinformation program.
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even if true it does not mean he wittingly did that --you need to look at where ge got the info.
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nobody cares for your 'conclusion', everyone can think for themselves dont they
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spock

An internet forum is the place to share opinions/conclusions.

even if true it does not mean he wittingly did that --you need to look at where ge got the info.
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You're right.

Last Edited by Well-Manicured Man on 10/31/2014 10:52 AM
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This story is trending on Facebook at the moment...

Might just be due to Halloween...

but lots of sites are running this story.
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This story is trending on Facebook at the moment...

Might just be due to Halloween...

but lots of sites are running this story.
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Interesting...

How would one dis-credit a credible source?

Take pictures of a 'puppet/toy/doll' Provide the source with these pictures and tell him it is a REAL alien. Let him dis-credit himself.

When the source spreads the story (which is now 2nd hand info) he loses all credibility. Even though some of his information may have been true.

Another thing you could do, is to make a toy replica of a REAL alien. Make it look exactly like the alien, sell it to Walmart as a childs toy.....! Done! What are you to believe is real? A Real Alien, which they made a toy out of? or a Toy, made to look like an Alien??


Think about this for a minute..... If you were aliens, and trying to prove/disprove Humans were real. An alien takes actual pictures of a REAL human, show the pictures to others and tell them that Humans are real. Meanwhile another alien (who wants to confuse the masses), makes an exact replica of the pictures, and makes a G.I. Joe doll. Plants it in their Walmart stores, sell it as a toy. Would aliens believe Humans existed? Why would they when they can buy the same G.I. Joe Human doll in a toy store.

Just now, you have tasted what True Cognitive Dissidence is all about.
This is the basis of how the CIA operates.

Lets go back to Ripleys Believe It Or Not!
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This story is trending on Facebook at the moment...

Might just be due to Halloween...

but lots of sites are running this story.
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Interesting...

How would one dis-credit a credible source?

Take pictures of a 'puppet/toy/doll' Provide the source with these pictures and tell him it is a REAL alien. Let him dis-credit himself.

When the source spreads the story (which is now 2nd hand info) he loses all credibility. Even though some of his information may have been true.

Another thing you could do, is to make a toy replica of a REAL alien. Make it look exactly like the alien, sell it to Walmart as a childs toy.....! Done! What are you to believe is real? A Real Alien, which they made a toy out of? or a Toy, made to look like an Alien??


Think about this for a minute..... If you were aliens, and trying to prove/disprove Humans were real. An alien takes actual pictures of a REAL human, show the pictures to others and tell them that Humans are real. Meanwhile another alien (who wants to confuse the masses), makes an exact replica of the pictures, and makes a G.I. Joe doll. Plants it in their Walmart stores, sell it as a toy. Would aliens believe Humans existed? Why would they when they can buy the same G.I. Joe Human doll in a toy store.

Just now, you have tasted what True Cognitive Dissidence is all about.
This is the basis of how the CIA operates.

Lets go back to Ripleys Believe It Or Not!
 Quoting: Chugiakian

bump


I will put this out there.....

I believe that the aliens ARE REAL.
I also believe that TPTB want to create confusion, so they made up alien toy dolls (either this one presented here, or perhaps others) to be placed in toy stores to do exactly what this video has done! - Their plan worked!
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its posted on the BLAZE today!
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This story is trending on Facebook at the moment...

Might just be due to Halloween...

but lots of sites are running this story.
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Interesting...

How would one dis-credit a credible source?

Take pictures of a 'puppet/toy/doll' Provide the source with these pictures and tell him it is a REAL alien. Let him dis-credit himself.

When the source spreads the story (which is now 2nd hand info) he loses all credibility. Even though some of his information may have been true.

Another thing you could do, is to make a toy replica of a REAL alien. Make it look exactly like the alien, sell it to Walmart as a childs toy.....! Done! What are you to believe is real? A Real Alien, which they made a toy out of? or a Toy, made to look like an Alien??


Think about this for a minute..... If you were aliens, and trying to prove/disprove Humans were real. An alien takes actual pictures of a REAL human, show the pictures to others and tell them that Humans are real. Meanwhile another alien (who wants to confuse the masses), makes an exact replica of the pictures, and makes a G.I. Joe doll. Plants it in their Walmart stores, sell it as a toy. Would aliens believe Humans existed? Why would they when they can buy the same G.I. Joe Human doll in a toy store.

Just now, you have tasted what True Cognitive Dissidence is all about.
This is the basis of how the CIA operates.

Lets go back to Ripleys Believe It Or Not!
 Quoting: Chugiakian

bump


I will put this out there.....

I believe that the aliens ARE REAL.
I also believe that TPTB want to create confusion, so they made up alien toy dolls (either this one presented here, or perhaps others) to be placed in toy stores to do exactly what this video has done! - Their plan worked!
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How would one dis-credit a credible source?

Take pictures of a 'puppet/toy/doll' Provide the source with these pictures and tell him it is a REAL alien. Let him dis-credit himself.

When the source spreads the story (which is now 2nd hand info) he loses all credibility. Even though some of his information may have been true.

Another thing you could do, is to make a toy replica of a REAL alien. Make it look exactly like the alien, sell it to Walmart as a childs toy.....! Done! What are you to believe is real? A Real Alien, which they made a toy out of? or a Toy, made to look like an Alien??

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Interesting and a good addition to my post above.

And that's why THEY (the people inside the government (who have the power)) always win.
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Case Closed!

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The toy itself cannot be seen as evidence that Boyd is a liar. The toy can be a part of a disinformation program and people would say: "Ah, you see it's just a toy, so he is a liar".

However, the photos of Boyd can't also be seen as evidence.

My conclusion: the photos are probably fake but I cannot rule out that the toy is a part of a disinformation program.
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nobody cares for your 'conclusion', everyone can think for themselves dont they
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Don't you guys love it when stupid shills like this one spill the beans ?
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my take is that there's a reason this got huge media attention..

yes, Boyd might have been given false pics of the doll.
Or the doll came after the real thing

If they don't mention the doll in the media..the goal of making this public such as in RT would certainly be to ridicule those that took it seriously.. and for the public to dismiss notions related to this topic furthermore.

One thing is clear. They DO NOT want anyone taking this topic seriously. They(the aliens themselves and the powers in cahoots with them) don't want anyone to know about them.

and the most plausible reason for that is.....
“He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.”
― George Orwell, 1984

it's funny how in movies every alien invasion is short spanned and with fierce battles......... that's far from thinking big...

Why would they attack that which they can manipulate for even bigger profits?

"John 12:31
31 Now is the judgment of this world; now will the ruler of this world be cast out."

well..she knew the goal, but was a bit off with the timing.
What started back then.. is about to come to fruition.


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"Now my soul is troubled, and what shall I say? ‘Father, save me from this hour’? No, it was for this very reason I came to this hour."
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Supposedly he gave a friend a camera and had them take pictures of all this top secret alien/space travel?!! They would never allow something like that at any secure facility. I think it's BS from the get-go, whether or not it's intentional disinformation is anyone's guess.
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Re: Lockheed Martin scientist on deathbed says aliens are real (VIDEO) RT News Disclosure - UPDATE PAGE 2
Reported on RT.com today
[snip]
Aliens, some as old as 200 years, are real and have visited Earth, a former Lockheed Martin senior scientist has claimed. In his final moments, he provided “photo evidence” while sharing his personal experiences of UFOs and extraterrestrials.

The controversial 33-minute video was made shortly before Boyd Bushman died on August 7, 2014. However, the footage has only recently emerged and is starting to garner widespread attention.

“I do have a top secret clearance,” he affirms at the beginning of the video. He goes on to state that incidents such as Roswell in 1947 – when a military Air Force surveillance balloon crashed – happened at the hands of aliens.

Bushman shared details about aliens, UFOs, and anti-gravity technology – which he says is being developed by US, Russian, and Chinese scientists at Area 51 (the US military facility).

In the video, Bushman is seen holding up second-hand “photo evidence” of aliens while describing them to viewers.

[link to rt.com]

Boyd Bushman - His Last Interview: A Documentary on Area 51 and UFO's over Tucson, Arizona

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 Quoting: Chugiakian


It good be good idea if somebody write down what he is saying





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