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There is God, his son Jesus and the holy ghost.

So there 3 God's? Or one God?And he send his son to die for our sins and if we accept this ultimate sacrifice and believen in JESUS we are saved, right?

Shouldnt we believe in God first? Is Jesus God? I really need to understand this, please explain. All the trolls stay out..real seroius answer only pls.
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Where are christians at
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Find one single verse where "Jesus" says that you are saved if you sacrifice him. Just one.
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Dude I am asking u ..idk
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God the Father, God the Son & God the Holy Spirit is what we collectively call GOD.

All 3 took part in creation, all 3 are parts of the God head in heaven.

Just like the shell, the white and the yolk make up an egg.......the same can be said for the Holy Trinity which we call God
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one God, three "personalities"- think of them as three fingers on one hand.
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1Jo 5:7

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
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or maybe a three headed god.
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Jesus is a Prophet, he didnt die on the cross
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Find one single verse where "Jesus" says that you are saved if you sacrifice him. Just one.
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"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life."

-Jesus Christ John 5:24
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The Lord -
(Creator G///D)

Is what can not be fathomed, being beyond this & every realm, in creation.


The Christ -
(Jesus, XPNCTOC, word made flesh, messiah, lamb, ~...)

Is the knowledge of the Lord & Lord in/ for this realm/ time.


The Spirit set Apart -
(Holy)

Is as the Christ is in this realm (the realm of the knowledge of good & evil)
in all realms.
wmMmw
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One God who expresses Himself in three forms
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There is God, his son Jesus and the holy ghost.

So there 3 God's? Or one God?And he send his son to die for our sins and if we accept this ultimate sacrifice and believen in JESUS we are saved, right?

Shouldnt we believe in God first? Is Jesus God? I really need to understand this, please explain. All the trolls stay out..real seroius answer only pls.
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Jesus is god. They are the same. God had to kill himself because he hated everyone so much that he wanted to bundle them all up like fire wood and roast marshmallows over their bodies. His anger was so great that he had sex with a virgin and he became a fetus. The fetus grew into Jesus. Then god came OUT of Jesus and went back to heaven. He suicided himself but he had others do it. Then if you believe this story, he will not burn you in a lake of fire that burns forever. If you believe the story, you are called saved. You can cheat on your husband or wife, lie, steal, be hateful, greedy, envious and generally a shitty person...but if you believe the story...all is forgiven. Cool...right?
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quote:Mmmmmmk 63896239:MV8yNjg1OTUyXzQ3MTY3ODIyXzkzNzI1QTE4]
Find one single verse where "Jesus" says that you are saved if you sacrifice him. Just one.



Christ's Sacrifice Once for All

10 For since the law has but a shadowof the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities, it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually offered every year, make perfect those who draw near. 2 Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered, since the worshipers, having once been cleansed, would no longer have any consciousness of sins? 3 But in these sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.

5 Consequently, when Christ[a] came into the world, he said,

“Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired,
    but a body have you prepared for me;
6 in burnt offerings and sin offerings
    you have taken no pleasure.
7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come to do your will, O God,
    as it is written of me in the scroll of the book.’”

8 When he said above, “You have neither desired nor taken pleasure in sacrifices and offerings and burnt offerings and sin offerings” (these are offered according to the law), 9 then he added, “Behold, I have come to do your will.” He does away with the first in order to establish the second.10 And by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.


What are you even talking about???
Before you slam christians you might think about knowing what they believe.
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Jesus always pointed to God. He told us to pray to the Father in his name. he called himself the way the truth and the life, and said that no man came to the Father except through him.
I have long feared that my sins would return to visit me, and the cost is more than I can bear. - The Patriot
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There is God, his son Jesus and the holy ghost.

So there 3 God's? Or one God?And he send his son to die for our sins and if we accept this ultimate sacrifice and believen in JESUS we are saved, right?

Shouldnt we believe in God first? Is Jesus God? I really need to understand this, please explain. All the trolls stay out..real seroius answer only pls.
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Jesus is god. They are the same. God had to kill himself because he hated everyone so much that he wanted to bundle them all up like fire wood and roast marshmallows over their bodies. His anger was so great that he had sex with a virgin and he became a fetus. The fetus grew into Jesus. Then god came OUT of Jesus and went back to heaven. He suicided himself but he had others do it. Then if you believe this story, he will not burn you in a lake of fire that burns forever. If you believe the story, you are called saved. You can cheat on your husband or wife, lie, steal, be hateful, greedy, envious and generally a shitty person...but if you believe the story...all is forgiven. Cool...right?
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Don't push your luck

"We shall all stand before the judgment seat of God." Romans 14:10
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Re: christian please answer this I am confused
There is God, his son Jesus and the holy ghost.

So there 3 God's? Or one God?And he send his son to die for our sins and if we accept this ultimate sacrifice and believen in JESUS we are saved, right?

Shouldnt we believe in God first? Is Jesus God? I really need to understand this, please explain. All the trolls stay out..real seroius answer only pls.
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3 manifestations of GODS Spirit and still The same GOD! Jesus said why call ME good? There is none good but GOD! Thus telling Us that it is the Spirit of God and the Spirit within that is GOOD not the fleshly or Carnal Man! For are We not told that Flesh and blood do not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven?
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Re: christian please answer this I am confused
you are a human being, one person comprised of a mind, body,and spirit.
all unique different parts or functions of a single being--you.
mind ----------is you
body ----------is you
spirit ----------is you.

God is a Deity, one entity if you like comprised of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.
all unique different parts or functions of a single Deity---God.
Father -------------is God
Son (Yahweh) -----is God
The Holy Spirit ----is God


don't forget the infinite nature of God---He can do anything.

hope this helps.


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God the Father, God the Son & God the Holy Spirit is what we collectively call GOD.

All 3 took part in creation, all 3 are parts of the God head in heaven.

Just like the shell, the white and the yolk make up an egg.......the same can be said for the Holy Trinity which we call God
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Nowhere in the scriptures will you find the phrase 'God the Holy Spirit'. You will however find the phrase the Holy Spirit OF God.
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There is God, his son Jesus and the holy ghost.

So there 3 God's? Or one God?And he send his son to die for our sins and if we accept this ultimate sacrifice and believen in JESUS we are saved, right?

Shouldnt we believe in God first? Is Jesus God? I really need to understand this, please explain. All the trolls stay out..real seroius answer only pls.
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Jesus is god. They are the same. God had to kill himself because he hated everyone so much that he wanted to bundle them all up like fire wood and roast marshmallows over their bodies. His anger was so great that he had sex with a virgin and he became a fetus. The fetus grew into Jesus. Then god came OUT of Jesus and went back to heaven. He suicided himself but he had others do it. Then if you believe this story, he will not burn you in a lake of fire that burns forever. If you believe the story, you are called saved. You can cheat on your husband or wife, lie, steal, be hateful, greedy, envious and generally a shitty person...but if you believe the story...all is forgiven. Cool...right?
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Jesus is the SON of God. He is NOT the same being as God the Father.
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Thanks guys. So The Father send his son to our world through Mary and he grew up as a regular child..did he knew he was Gods Son or it revealed to him later? How come he ended up on the cross? Why did he die for our sins? Adam and Eve started sin and he ended sin?
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There is God, his son Jesus and the holy ghost.

So there 3 God's? Or one God?And he send his son to die for our sins and if we accept this ultimate sacrifice and believen in JESUS we are saved, right?

Shouldnt we believe in God first? Is Jesus God? I really need to understand this, please explain. All the trolls stay out..real seroius answer only pls.
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The Bible says:

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Contrary to popular belief, there is not one God, but three. The Father, The Son, & The Holy Spirit.

Ephesians 4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

The Bible shows there is one Holy Spirit, there is One Lord, that being Jesus Christ, and one God and Father. This does not mean one God, but there is only one God who is Father, that being The Father, Supreme.

When the Bible says those three are one, it simply means in agreement. The Bible gives examples of multiple people becoming one. None of these persons are literally one, it simply means they become in agreement. A husband and wife become one. The disciples of Christ are to be one. Christ and His disciples are to be one. Christ's disciples are to be one with Him and with His Father. The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit are one.


Mark 10:7-8 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

Ephesians 5:31-32 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

John 17:21-23 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

Acts 4:32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.

Ephesians 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
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Thanks guys. So The Father send his son to our world through Mary and he grew up as a regular child..did he knew he was Gods Son or it revealed to him later? How come he ended up on the cross? Why did he die for our sins? Adam and Eve started sin and he ended sin?
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Sin is still with us OP. He provided atonement for them. The bible is not explicit on just when He realized who He was and if He had the knowledge from the beginning or if it was revealed to Him. From the texts we do have I lean more towards knowledge from the beginning considering who He was. The cross was written in that was a fulfillment of prophecy and something that was required considering the path that humanity chose, and what was required to come to pass. There are multiple layers wrapped up in the meaning behind that cross much deeper than what most of the churches will outright teach. Things have been hidden and are revealed once you seek them. One of the best things you could do at this point is to read them yourself. Let the spirit talk with you and go to the new testament and search. There are many including myself who would be happy to help you in whatever way we can but its no replacement nor as fulfilling as having the truth presented to you personally in a way that speaks to your heart. God bless :)
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There is God, his son Jesus and the holy ghost.

So there 3 God's? Or one God?And he send his son to die for our sins and if we accept this ultimate sacrifice and believen in JESUS we are saved, right?

Shouldnt we believe in God first? Is Jesus God? I really need to understand this, please explain. All the trolls stay out..real seroius answer only pls.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56973100


Jesus is god. They are the same. God had to kill himself because he hated everyone so much that he wanted to bundle them all up like fire wood and roast marshmallows over their bodies. His anger was so great that he had sex with a virgin and he became a fetus. The fetus grew into Jesus. Then god came OUT of Jesus and went back to heaven. He suicided himself but he had others do it. Then if you believe this story, he will not burn you in a lake of fire that burns forever. If you believe the story, you are called saved. You can cheat on your husband or wife, lie, steal, be hateful, greedy, envious and generally a shitty person...but if you believe the story...all is forgiven. Cool...right?
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where did you get that from?
wrong you useful idiot for the devil.


upon being reborn--that basically means accepting Jesus Christ as your Saviour AND repenting from your sins.--then you are forgiven.

repenting means to turn from your sins--that is, do an about face and stop sining.
its as an important part of salvation as belief in Yahweh.

once saved , if a Christians turns towards sin he/she runs the risk of a negative judgement outcome.
I would say, if a Christian, like myself, continually sin knowing its wrong then we are grieving the Holy Spirit, which results in less and less Grace in us--an attribute brought to us by the Holy Spirit when reborn--These christians are on a slippery slope to hell.

It is no joke when a Christian sins.
Christians will be judged much more harshly then the non believers.

jesus Christ is no push over like everyone thinks.

every knee will bend because ALL will be so blown away, they will shake uncontrollably and standing will be impossible.

this is God were talking about here you fool.

your not smart
you are an ass.


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Thanks guys. So The Father send his son to our world through Mary and he grew up as a regular child..did he knew he was Gods Son or it revealed to him later? How come he ended up on the cross? Why did he die for our sins? Adam and Eve started sin and he ended sin?
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Sin is still with us OP. He provided atonement for them. The bible is not explicit on just when He realized who He was and if He had the knowledge from the beginning or if it was revealed to Him. From the texts we do have I lean more towards knowledge from the beginning considering who He was. The cross was written in that was a fulfillment of prophecy and something that was required considering the path that humanity chose, and what was required to come to pass. There are multiple layers wrapped up in the meaning behind that cross much deeper than what most of the churches will outright teach. Things have been hidden and are revealed once you seek them. One of the best things you could do at this point is to read them yourself. Let the spirit talk with you and go to the new testament and search. There are many including myself who would be happy to help you in whatever way we can but its no replacement nor as fulfilling as having the truth presented to you personally in a way that speaks to your heart. God bless :)
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Very kinds words of you. I am starting to take steps toward this and pray to God to guide me. So he died for our sins and he still loves us dearly, we must accept him in our lives and live life humble and positive. Dont judge others etc....10 commandments right?
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There is God, his son Jesus and the holy ghost.

So there 3 God's? Or one God?And he send his son to die for our sins and if we accept this ultimate sacrifice and believen in JESUS we are saved, right?

Shouldnt we believe in God first? Is Jesus God? I really need to understand this, please explain. All the trolls stay out..real seroius answer only pls.
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if you have a plate and break it into 3 pieces, the largest piece would be GOD, yet all came from the same plate.

does this make sense, now?
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There is God, his son Jesus and the holy ghost.

So there 3 God's? Or one God?And he send his son to die for our sins and if we accept this ultimate sacrifice and believen in JESUS we are saved, right?

Shouldnt we believe in God first? Is Jesus God? I really need to understand this, please explain. All the trolls stay out..real seroius answer only pls.
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if you have a plate and break it into 3 pieces, the largest piece would be GOD, yet all came from the same plate.

does this make sense, now?
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hi Good to see you :)
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There are verses to suggest Jesus is the same but also different.

Another consideration, is what does Jesus mean that he's one with God?

John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

To me this verse suggests it's more metaphorically, if it was literal, than that means we too are literally one with God.

Regardless, both God and Jesus say, it's important that we love God, and love, be kind, and helpful to others.

In Jesus' parable of the goat and sheep in Mathew 25, Jesus himself tells you an important criteria for salvation, which is clothing, feeding, etc the least of these, or those truly in need.

So it goes back to loving others.

So aren't we suppose to also love God?

Yes, but to love God, also means we would do what he wants us to do, which includes loving others.
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Thanks guys. So The Father send his son to our world through Mary and he grew up as a regular child..did he knew he was Gods Son or it revealed to him later? How come he ended up on the cross? Why did he die for our sins? Adam and Eve started sin and he ended sin?
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Christ knew He was God's Son when He was 12 years old, and He went into the temple. He knew He was connected to the temple sacrifices in some way.

Luke 2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?

Christ died for our sins because of the love that He has for us. He left heaven, it's glory and joy, and everything else for us. He could easily have left us to perish. But instead, He manifested a love beyond human comprehension to save us from our sins. Earthly language cannot begin to describe the depths of His love. It cannot describe the glory and joy Christ left behind, to come down upon this earth to be spat upon, to be abused, and mocked, and to die a cruel death, just so we would not perish, but live eternally with Him. What self denial was shown upon that cross! What self denial was shown in His life! He lived for us, He did everything for us, just so we could live with Him! What love! What unbelievable, matchless love! Self denial, O how weak we are to deny ourselves. How utterly shameful is our pitiful so called self denial! There can be no greater self denial, no greater act of love, than the love that Christ bestowed upon us! Can you truly grasp such love? Can you grasp it?

Satan is the author of sin. It started with him, and his rebellion caused angels to fall, and Adam and Eve, and eventually the entire human race. The only one to make it out sinless was Jesus. Christ defeated sin in the flesh. Christ made it manifest that we too can defeat sin in the flesh. We simply need to follow Him.


John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 8:46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

Marvel world... marvel at Him.
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OP to understand this you have to go back to the first commandment where God called himself The Lord (the Lord thy God) Jesus is The Lord of Lords and is the most high in heaven meaning there is none higher than him. The Lord our God is king of all kings in heaven.
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Thanks guys. So The Father send his son to our world through Mary and he grew up as a regular child..did he knew he was Gods Son or it revealed to him later? How come he ended up on the cross? Why did he die for our sins? Adam and Eve started sin and he ended sin?
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Sin is still with us OP. He provided atonement for them. The bible is not explicit on just when He realized who He was and if He had the knowledge from the beginning or if it was revealed to Him. From the texts we do have I lean more towards knowledge from the beginning considering who He was. The cross was written in that was a fulfillment of prophecy and something that was required considering the path that humanity chose, and what was required to come to pass. There are multiple layers wrapped up in the meaning behind that cross much deeper than what most of the churches will outright teach. Things have been hidden and are revealed once you seek them. One of the best things you could do at this point is to read them yourself. Let the spirit talk with you and go to the new testament and search. There are many including myself who would be happy to help you in whatever way we can but its no replacement nor as fulfilling as having the truth presented to you personally in a way that speaks to your heart. God bless :)
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Very kinds words of you. I am starting to take steps toward this and pray to God to guide me. So he died for our sins and he still loves us dearly, we must accept him in our lives and live life humble and positive. Dont judge others etc....10 commandments right?
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IMO yes but this is what has been laid upon my heart. To me the basis of those commandments are almost a moral code that would be good for anyone to obey. :) In the book of Matthew chapter 22 Christ tells us that the whole of the law and the prophets rests upon two commandments that Christ taught us. The basis is love and you can see that theme woven not only in what Christ taught us when He was here but in what was given to Moses in the original set of commandments. Love is where He wants you to start.





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