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How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?

 
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How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
The woman in Oregon did this week.
In Brussels euthanasia is legal and people do it all the time but with barbaric methods. In Oregon, apparently you can dissolve the pills in water (according to the article) and go to sleep and not wake up.

It was pounded into my head my whole life that once "that" line is crossed in society people will just keep moving it until eventually its forced on disabled and elderly.

Now that she has actually chose this. I want to ask all your thoughts again, but more, what circumstances would make you make this decision for yourself if any.

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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
I think it is completely honorable. The choice isn't for everyone, but neither is drooling on yourself and having other people change your diaper for the however many months before you die.

I admire her courage in this. I imagine that taking that drink was likely the most difficult thing she ever had to do.

I don't think this is a topic that should be discussed among anyone but the parties involved because it is a different set of circumstances, choices, resources, belief systems, perceptions... for each and every situation and you can't really know what choice you would make unless you were in it yourself.

God speed to her. That is all.
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
The woman in Oregon did this week.
In Brussels euthanasia is legal and people do it all the time but with barbaric methods. In Oregon, apparently you can dissolve the pills in water (according to the article) and go to sleep and not wake up.

It was pounded into my head my whole life that once "that" line is crossed in society people will just keep moving it until eventually its forced on disabled and elderly.

Now that she has actually chose this. I want to ask all your thoughts again, but more, what circumstances would make you make this decision for yourself if any.
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I dunno...every time I see an Obola speech I feel pretty sick.

But I turn them off after the first vomit..usually after five seconds or so.

But if I was ever forced to watch one right to the end..id get sick enough to end it all.
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
I just can't ever see making that choice so long as there is some joy in life, whether it's the taste of a bite, the sound of a song, or even the relief of taking a piss.

It confounds me, but I've never been faced with circumstances like that.
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
I think it is completely honorable. The choice isn't for everyone, but neither is drooling on yourself and having other people change your diaper for the however many months before you die.

I admire her courage in this. I imagine that taking that drink was likely the most difficult thing she ever had to do.

I don't think this is a topic that should be discussed among anyone but the parties involved because it is a different set of circumstances, choices, resources, belief systems, perceptions... for each and every situation and you can't really know what choice you would make unless you were in it yourself.

God speed to her. That is all.
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Wise words.
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
Imagine a pain so great that you will hit your head against the wall until you passed out.
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
I think it is completely honorable. The choice isn't for everyone, but neither is drooling on yourself and having other people change your diaper for the however many months before you die.

I admire her courage in this. I imagine that taking that drink was likely the most difficult thing she ever had to do.

I don't think this is a topic that should be discussed among anyone but the parties involved because it is a different set of circumstances, choices, resources, belief systems, perceptions... for each and every situation and you can't really know what choice you would make unless you were in it yourself.

God speed to her. That is all.
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It was likely??? You serious bro?>?
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
She was going to go through some terrible pain, I would rather die before that since Im going to die anyways
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
I'm back and forth...
I DO think that people suffering from uncurable illnesses should have the right to end their lives and suffering and on their own terms. I understand wanting your family's last memory of you to be a pleasant one... not one of you suffering and unrecognizable, rotting in a hospital bed. It's a terrible thing to watch someone you love waste away and die... and there's nothing you can do. It lasts with you forever and Brittney wanted to protect the people she loves from that.

But then a part of me wonders how well theae people have thought their plans out... is there ANYTHING else they could have done? Would tomorrow bring some miracle that they missed out on?

I don't know... I respect other people's decisions and right to choose for themselves, and they should be allowed to choose...
But personally, *I* won't be leaving this Earth without a hell of a fight.
If a doctor tells me tomorrow that I have incurable cancer and I have 6 months to live... I'm gonna say "yeah... we'll see about THAT"
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Do not believe this happened. Does not check out.

Nevertheless, if I did believe the scenario felt the person should of at least waited until life was not worth living. If the person was capable of making cross country trips to the Grand Canyon days before death there was still a bit of life in them. Not a believer in suicide personally.
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
Do not believe this happened. Does not check out.

Nevertheless, if I did believe the scenario felt the person should of at least waited until life was not worth living. If the person was capable of making cross country trips to the Grand Canyon days before death there was still a bit of life in them. Not a believer in suicide personally.
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GOOD POINT!
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
First of all, you'd have to have no real fear or reverance towards God since it is clearly forbidden to kill in His Commandments. The Hemlock So Jett lies and the very demons all the libtards snicker at today will terrify them on their death beds. I don't care what kind of pretty face Brittany put on this last act of hers, ugly is still ugly. Don't fall for it.
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
The woman in Oregon did this week.
In Brussels euthanasia is legal and people do it all the time but with barbaric methods. In Oregon, apparently you can dissolve the pills in water (according to the article) and go to sleep and not wake up.

It was pounded into my head my whole life that once "that" line is crossed in society people will just keep moving it until eventually its forced on disabled and elderly.

Now that she has actually chose this. I want to ask all your thoughts again, but more, what circumstances would make you make this decision for yourself if any.
 Quoting: CeeLite


I'm undecided.

If I were in a lot of pain I would be very tempted.

But then again, I've heard that if you kill yourself you go to hell even if you are suffering.

Very, Very confused about the subject.
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
I've been close but not quite close enough to follow through, although I did and have since asked myself the same question many times. If I knew I couldn't live my life without machines supporting me and the quality of life I need to survive joyfully, then I would. After my dad pulled the plug on my mother this past September, we talked at length and both agreed to do the same for each other in similar circumstances. Matter of fact he specified it in his will we had made out last week. hf
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btw, 5* for having us ask ourselves that very very important question. Not many threads require the readers to dig that deep and contribute their heartfelt feelings. That alone is worth five stars...whatever the answers we individually come up with or our philosophies on suicide. hf
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
I just can't ever see making that choice so long as there is some joy in life, whether it's the taste of a bite, the sound of a song, or even the relief of taking a piss.

It confounds me, but I've never been faced with circumstances like that.
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Agreed.

Although, I do not fault her for her decision.
It's getting to the point where I'm no fun anymore.

I am sorry.
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
We all gotta go sometime. You suffer as much as you want to in this realm.


Assuming youre going to a firey pit of eternal torment if you suicide is laughable. The Bible is scary stories to keep slaves in line and working. FACT.
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
No hope is what she must have had...No faith to finish out her life naturally...sad.
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
No. It is not
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
No faith to finish out her life naturally
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Why do people think some things are unnatural? If it can happen or exist, isn't that natural?

When we take raw materials from the Earth and create something new out of it, people call it unnatural.

When bees make honey, is that also unnatural?
It's getting to the point where I'm no fun anymore.

I am sorry.
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
Do not believe this happened. Does not check out.

Nevertheless, if I did believe the scenario felt the person should of at least waited until life was not worth living. If the person was capable of making cross country trips to the Grand Canyon days before death there was still a bit of life in them. Not a believer in suicide personally.
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GOOD POINT!
 Quoting: CeeLite


She also talked about the pain getting worse during the trip, reinforcing her decision.
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
Never.
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
I think the bigger is question is why this case to push? Was it because of her age? Were most of the other takers elderly so it didn't seem to be such a big deal? I do worry that at some point they will move it from Voluntary choice....to a government/sacntioning body choice. Perhaps they are pushing for mass acceptance to prep for the next step. Or perhaps I just spend too much time on GLP.
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Not the right choice for me.
Fate whispers to the warrior

"You cannot withstand the storm"

the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
Really OP? You would rather her family wait around for the next couple weeks till she was hooked to all kinds of tubes and machines keeping her alive, gasping for air in extreme pain? Or would you have rather seen her go to Hospice where they would have done to her what she did to herself?
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We're all terminal, every last one of us will die. Chronic illness and pain have pushed me to consider ending my life on my own terms, instead of living it up to my illness. But my quality of life would have to be really bad, there are too many people I don't want to leave :)
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Leaving it up to my illness, jeez
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
I think it is completely honorable. The choice isn't for everyone, but neither is drooling on yourself and having other people change your diaper for the however many months before you die.

I admire her courage in this. I imagine that taking that drink was likely the most difficult thing she ever had to do.

I don't think this is a topic that should be discussed among anyone but the parties involved because it is a different set of circumstances, choices, resources, belief systems, perceptions... for each and every situation and you can't really know what choice you would make unless you were in it yourself.

God speed to her. That is all.
 Quoting: Choyces 61957784


Wise words.
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COURAGE WISE WORDS? SHE JUST DROPPED HERSELF INTO HELL, IF SHE COULD TALK NOW, SHE WOULD SCREAM DON'T!
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
I've been close but not quite close enough to follow through, although I did and have since asked myself the same question many times. If I knew I couldn't live my life without machines supporting me and the quality of life I need to survive joyfully, then I would. After my dad pulled the plug on my mother this past September, we talked at length and both agreed to do the same for each other in similar circumstances. Matter of fact he specified it in his will we had made out last week. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


REALLY REALLY good to plan ahead for stuff like that hf
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Re: How sick would you have to be to make same choice Brittany did?
What is it with people thinking suicide causes one to go to hell? The Bible doesn't say that. Catholics might, but the Bible doesn't. She was going to die. She ended it gracefully.





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