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Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown

 
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Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
The first was Jesus when he turned down satan in the wilderness:

Luke 4 5 Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him[d] all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. 7 Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.”

The other was George Washington after he was won the Revolutionary war. Most of Washington's officers assumed Washington would declare himself King. That was just how things worked back then. Instead Washington went to Congress and laid his sword on the podium and said he was going home to run his plantation.

Now, instead of men like Washington, we have Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Obama. These people are a total disgrace compared to the founding fathers.
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
That is very interesting and I had never known that regarding George Washington. How different would things be for all of North America if he had declared himself King? Might not even be a Canada or a US nowadays at all?
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crowns are overrated
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
I think it was the Duke of Windsor that turned down the throne just before WWII in England to marry some divorced yank.
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
you're comparing George Washington to current members of Congress and Jesus?

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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
I'm quite certain it's more than two.
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
I'm quite certain it's more than two.
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Yup, Buddha was another.
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
Pancho Villa was offered the presidency of Mexico. He turned it down saying he wasn't qualified.
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
I think it was the Duke of Windsor that turned down the throne just before WWII in England to marry some divorced yank.
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He was the King, and walked away for the love of an American divorcee
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
Cicero of Rome declined J G Caesars invitation to become a ruler over part of the new Roman Empire. He was eventually sentenced to death for his efforts to return Rome to its republican roots.

He could have had it all, but principles and morals carried more weight to that great man.

BTW, I think the offer to Jesus was a bit more than just being a king. He also would have had to surrender a bit more too. His situation seems to be in another category altogether.
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
The difference is that George wasn't executed by his "tribe"
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
Joseph Bonaparte brother of Napoleon turned down the crown of Mexico after he was exiled to America. he had previously reigned as King of Naples and then of Spain. He would have been the only man in history to have reigned in 3 seperate countries and not at the same time.
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
three now
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sit at my right hand UNTIL i make your enemies a footstool for your feet

What this "until" implies?
Who is sitted on the left?
Why one is sitted right next to the other?
What happens after the enemies are made a footstool?
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
The difference is that George wasn't executed by his "tribe"
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Actually, it's likely that George was executed by his own tribe. His allopathic doctors bled him to death as treatment for a respiratory infection that he otherwise could have survived.
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
750 years ago the King of England was captured by Rebels led by De Montford, and instead of taking the crown and declaring himself King as most people like that do in those situations he called the first "elected" Parliament in English History, a move that went against Rome and the Princes of Europe.

So that makes another one :)

BTW don't you find it interesting, this year is the 750th anniversary of that momentous event and yet it has passed almost without recognition anywhere..
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That is the final "test".

Once the Initiate rejects the Crown, he is accepted into the Order.

Of course, he must make it past the temptations of the wives of the High Priests first.

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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
750 years ago the King of England was captured by Rebels led by De Montford, and instead of taking the crown and declaring himself King as most people like that do in those situations he called the first "elected" Parliament in English History, a move that went against Rome and the Princes of Europe.

So that makes another one :)

BTW don't you find it interesting, this year is the 750th anniversary of that momentous event and yet it has passed almost without recognition anywhere..
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Yeah, but then John went around and killed all the people that signed the Magna Carta and it took another uprising to stop him.

And you guys also knew who was king. Nowadays they just shift from corporation to corporation so you have no clue who the fuck is who.
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
750 years ago the King of England was captured by Rebels led by De Montford, and instead of taking the crown and declaring himself King as most people like that do in those situations he called the first "elected" Parliament in English History, a move that went against Rome and the Princes of Europe.

So that makes another one :)

BTW don't you find it interesting, this year is the 750th anniversary of that momentous event and yet it has passed almost without recognition anywhere..
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Yeah, but then John went around and killed all the people that signed the Magna Carta and it took another uprising to stop him.

And you guys also knew who was king. Nowadays they just shift from corporation to corporation so you have no clue who the fuck is who.
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That first sentence isn't entirely true
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
The first was Jesus when he turned down satan in the wilderness:

Luke 4 5 Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him[d] all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. 7 Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.”

The other was George Washington after he was won the Revolutionary war. Most of Washington's officers assumed Washington would declare himself King. That was just how things worked back then. Instead Washington went to Congress and laid his sword on the podium and said he was going home to run his plantation.

Now, instead of men like Washington, we have Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Obama. These people are a total disgrace compared to the founding fathers.
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But the truth is I didn't turn down the crown.

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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
That is the final "test".

Once the Initiate rejects the Crown, he is accepted into the Order.

Of course, he must make it past the temptations of the wives of the High Priests first.

chuckle
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
The difference is that George wasn't executed by his "tribe"
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Actually, it's likely that George was executed by his own tribe. His allopathic doctors bled him to death as treatment for a respiratory infection that he otherwise could have survived.
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
This really puts this whole ill-doomi-nazi, false flags and horrible history into perspective.

"...delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish".

When we follow the money and power all the way up, it's all become obvious now that I'm older who/what is in charge.

The very end of the rabbit hole.
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
750 years ago the King of England was captured by Rebels led by De Montford, and instead of taking the crown and declaring himself King as most people like that do in those situations he called the first "elected" Parliament in English History, a move that went against Rome and the Princes of Europe.

So that makes another one :)

BTW don't you find it interesting, this year is the 750th anniversary of that momentous event and yet it has passed almost without recognition anywhere..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64434130


Yeah, but then John went around and killed all the people that signed the Magna Carta and it took another uprising to stop him.

And you guys also knew who was king. Nowadays they just shift from corporation to corporation so you have no clue who the fuck is who.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60099187


That first sentence isn't entirely true
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I am referencing the Second Barons War not the first, the second Barons war was led by Simon De Montford who took King Henry prisoner at the battle of Lewes, at which point rather than De Montford killing the King and the Prince and declaring himself King he called a Parliament, it was unique because he insisted the representatives where elected rather than appointed and that it included not just the gentry but the common people to..

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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
That is very interesting and I had never known that regarding George Washington. How different would things be for all of North America if he had declared himself King? Might not even be a Canada or a US nowadays at all?
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Re: Only two men in history that could have been kings turned down the crown
The first was Jesus when he turned down satan in the wilderness:

Luke 4 5 Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him[d] all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. 7 Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.”

The other was George Washington after he was won the Revolutionary war. Most of Washington's officers assumed Washington would declare himself King. That was just how things worked back then. Instead Washington went to Congress and laid his sword on the podium and said he was going home to run his plantation.

Now, instead of men like Washington, we have Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Obama. These people are a total disgrace compared to the founding fathers.
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