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Kent Hovind is schedule to be released in August 2015, He is the greatest creationist and does great works for The Lord.

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Evolutionists became terrified to debate him.
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Fuck that guy. He is a F R A U D and gives the pedo vibe.
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Evolutionists became unwilling to lower themselves anymore to debate him.
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There, fixed that for you...
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Evolutionists became unwilling to lower themselves anymore to debate him.
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There, fixed that for you...
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lol, I've seen almost all his debates. The evolutionists could never offer anything.

Hovind didn't really have to do much, though. He just got up there and asked for evidence and of course the evolutionist can never give any... just the same flimsy assumption-based arguments that have been debunked for decades.
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Evolutionists became unwilling to lower themselves anymore to debate him.
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There, fixed that for you...
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lol, I've seen almost all his debates. The evolutionists could never offer anything.

Hovind didn't really have to do much, though. He just got up there and asked for evidence and of course the evolutionist can never give any... just the same flimsy assumption-based arguments that have been debunked for decades.
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Wow - you're not really that stupid, are you?
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Evolutionists became unwilling to lower themselves anymore to debate him.
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There, fixed that for you...
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lol, I've seen almost all his debates. The evolutionists could never offer anything.

Hovind didn't really have to do much, though. He just got up there and asked for evidence and of course the evolutionist can never give any... just the same flimsy assumption-based arguments that have been debunked for decades.
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Wow - you're not really that stupid, are you?
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You must be stupid to believe we came from an ape or fish or whatever flavor you fucks are pushing this week....stupid.
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Evolutionists became unwilling to lower themselves anymore to debate him.
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There, fixed that for you...
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lol, I've seen almost all his debates. The evolutionists could never offer anything.

Hovind didn't really have to do much, though. He just got up there and asked for evidence and of course the evolutionist can never give any... just the same flimsy assumption-based arguments that have been debunked for decades.
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Wow - you're not really that stupid, are you?
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oh that hurt--your points are very strong.

ppppppppfffffftttttttttt

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this poster expresses exactly the sentiments made by evolutionist towards Hovind.

and when that didn't work they threw him in jail and hid the key.

apparently his sentence is far more severe then what other get for worse crimes.

I would love to see that pious liar dawkins debate Hovind.

it will never happen though --dawkings is far to scared, shallow and smart enough to know he will get shellacked when up agaisnt an articulate knowledgeable Christian

craig has an open invitation for a debate with dawkins


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Evolutionists became terrified to debate him.
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True. Richard Dawkins would not dare debate him..
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Evolutionists became unwilling to lower themselves anymore to debate him.
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There, fixed that for you...
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lol, I've seen almost all his debates. The evolutionists could never offer anything.

Hovind didn't really have to do much, though. He just got up there and asked for evidence and of course the evolutionist can never give any... just the same flimsy assumption-based arguments that have been debunked for decades.
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True
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There, fixed that for you...
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lol, I've seen almost all his debates. The evolutionists could never offer anything.

Hovind didn't really have to do much, though. He just got up there and asked for evidence and of course the evolutionist can never give any... just the same flimsy assumption-based arguments that have been debunked for decades.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48515704


Wow - you're not really that stupid, are you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64916500

oh that hurt--your points are very strong.

ppppppppfffffftttttttttt

-----

this poster expresses exactly the sentiments made by evolutionist towards Hovind.

and when that didn't work they threw him in jail and hid the key.

apparently his sentence is far more severe then what other get for worse crimes.

I would love to see that pious liar dawkins debate Hovind.

it will never happen though --dawkings is far to scared, shallow and smart enough to know he will get shellacked when up agaisnt an articulate knowledgeable Christian

craig has an open invitation for a debate with dawkins


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Very true, they gave him the longest sentence purposely.
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He gave up US citizenship and is a tax fraud.


Why the hell would I want to free than scum?
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He gave up US citizenship and is a tax fraud.


Why the hell would I want to free than scum?
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He owned a amusement park for children and it was a law that amusement parks didn't have to pay taxes sort of like Disney land doesn't pay taxes and he kept fighting it for years and years and then they finally git him, he's a good man just ppl who hate Christians and creationists will use this against him and say he was evil fuck outta here with that lie
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He gave up US citizenship and is a tax fraud.


Why the hell would I want to free than scum?
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He owned a amusement park for children and it was a law that amusement parks didn't have to pay taxes sort of like Disney land doesn't pay taxes and he kept fighting it for years and years and then they finally git him, he's a good man just ppl who hate Christians and creationists will use this against him and say he was evil fuck outta here with that lie
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64383627


Sounds kind of like the Neverland Ranch. lulz

Amusement parks have to pay taxes. FFS people are so gullible.
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He gave up US citizenship and is a tax fraud.

Why the hell would I want to free than scum?
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He owned a amusement park for children and it was a law that amusement parks didn't have to pay taxes sort of like Disney land doesn't pay taxes and he kept fighting it for years and years and then they finally git him, he's a good man just ppl who hate Christians and creationists will use this against him and say he was evil fuck outta here with that lie
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[link to www.religionnewsblog.com]
-The Hovinds were charged with a total of 58 counts of tax evasion.

-Counts one through 12 include Kent Hovind’s alleged failure to collect nearly $470,000 in employee taxes.

-Counts 13 through 57 include both Kent and Jo Hovind. They are charged with structuring cash transactions of $430,500 to avoid reporting requirements.

-Count 58 includes the following charges against Kent Hovind:
Filing a frivolous lawsuit against the IRS, demanding damages for criminal trespass.

-Filing an injunction against an IRS agent.

-Making threats against investigators and those cooperating with the investigation.

-Filing false complaints against the IRS for false arrest, excessive use of force and theft.
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Kent Hovind is schedule to be released in August 2015, He is the greatest creationist and does great works for The Lord.

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I believe Kent is going to be released, but confined to his home (House Arrest) in January 2015.
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He gave up US citizenship and is a tax fraud.

Why the hell would I want to free than scum?
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He owned a amusement park for children and it was a law that amusement parks didn't have to pay taxes sort of like Disney land doesn't pay taxes and he kept fighting it for years and years and then they finally git him, he's a good man just ppl who hate Christians and creationists will use this against him and say he was evil fuck outta here with that lie
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64383627


[link to www.religionnewsblog.com]
-The Hovinds were charged with a total of 58 counts of tax evasion.

-Counts one through 12 include Kent Hovind’s alleged failure to collect nearly $470,000 in employee taxes.

-Counts 13 through 57 include both Kent and Jo Hovind. They are charged with structuring cash transactions of $430,500 to avoid reporting requirements.

-Count 58 includes the following charges against Kent Hovind:
Filing a frivolous lawsuit against the IRS, demanding damages for criminal trespass.

-Filing an injunction against an IRS agent.

-Making threats against investigators and those cooperating with the investigation.

-Filing false complaints against the IRS for false arrest, excessive use of force and theft.

 Quoting: ANHEDONIC

Apparently you do not understand how the government can work when they want to silence someone...
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He gave up US citizenship and is a tax fraud.

Why the hell would I want to free than scum?
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He owned a amusement park for children and it was a law that amusement parks didn't have to pay taxes sort of like Disney land doesn't pay taxes and he kept fighting it for years and years and then they finally git him, he's a good man just ppl who hate Christians and creationists will use this against him and say he was evil fuck outta here with that lie
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64383627


[link to www.religionnewsblog.com]
-The Hovinds were charged with a total of 58 counts of tax evasion.

-Counts one through 12 include Kent Hovind’s alleged failure to collect nearly $470,000 in employee taxes.

-Counts 13 through 57 include both Kent and Jo Hovind. They are charged with structuring cash transactions of $430,500 to avoid reporting requirements.

-Count 58 includes the following charges against Kent Hovind:
Filing a frivolous lawsuit against the IRS, demanding damages for criminal trespass.

-Filing an injunction against an IRS agent.

-Making threats against investigators and those cooperating with the investigation.

-Filing false complaints against the IRS for false arrest, excessive use of force and theft.

 Quoting: ANHEDONIC

Apparently you do not understand how the government can work when they want to silence someone...
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Apparently you don't understand why he and his wife made 45 cash withdrawals of exactly $9500 or $9600 over a one year period....

What about all of the other notable individuals who have gained a widespread following advocating/teaching creationism? Why haven't they been 'silenced' by the government if there was such an agenda underfoot? They had not been prohibited from doing what they do. Could it be because they did not scheme to commit tax evasion while running a profitable business operation?

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Kent is batshit nuts
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Didn't he play the coach on The White Shadow?

Oh Never mind, that was Ken Howard.

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Hey they kinda look alike.
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He owned a amusement park for children and it was a law that amusement parks didn't have to pay taxes sort of like Disney land doesn't pay taxes and he kept fighting it for years and years and then they finally git him, he's a good man just ppl who hate Christians and creationists will use this against him and say he was evil fuck outta here with that lie
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64383627


[link to www.religionnewsblog.com]
-The Hovinds were charged with a total of 58 counts of tax evasion.

-Counts one through 12 include Kent Hovind’s alleged failure to collect nearly $470,000 in employee taxes.

-Counts 13 through 57 include both Kent and Jo Hovind. They are charged with structuring cash transactions of $430,500 to avoid reporting requirements.

-Count 58 includes the following charges against Kent Hovind:
Filing a frivolous lawsuit against the IRS, demanding damages for criminal trespass.

-Filing an injunction against an IRS agent.

-Making threats against investigators and those cooperating with the investigation.

-Filing false complaints against the IRS for false arrest, excessive use of force and theft.

 Quoting: ANHEDONIC

Apparently you do not understand how the government can work when they want to silence someone...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62756798


Apparently you don't understand why he and his wife made 45 cash withdrawals of exactly $9500 or $9600 over a one year period....

What about all of the other notable individuals who have gained a widespread following advocating/teaching creationism? Why haven't they been 'silenced' by the government if there was such an agenda underfoot? They had not been prohibited from doing what they do. Could it be because they did not scheme to commit tax evasion while running a profitable business operation?

:sarcasm1:
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ok lets say he is corrupt,and he isnt being set up to be silenced...why do fuck dont you recognize him for what he is doing good instead of only looking at the bad stuff?

are you aware how fucking corrupt your government and justice system is?and you dont mind being spoon fd by them,just stfu you bastard

i have to insult you because i fail to see why you are coming here always taking things at face value and not having any critical thinking skills of your own...you idiot,that guy is telling the truth and most of it is incredibly important
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i have learned much from mr.hovind and i respect him both as a christian,who does a great deal of work for his faith and convictions,and as a professor,and always enjoy his lectures and how vividly and fervently he speaks about such important subjects
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Kent Hovind is schedule to be released in August 2015, He is the greatest creationist and does great works for The Lord.

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I believe Kent is going to be released, but confined to his home (House Arrest) in January 2015.
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Here's one ex-athiest that hopes so!
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He owned a amusement park for children and it was a law that amusement parks didn't have to pay taxes sort of like Disney land doesn't pay taxes and he kept fighting it for years and years and then they finally git him, he's a good man just ppl who hate Christians and creationists will use this against him and say he was evil fuck outta here with that lie
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[link to www.religionnewsblog.com]
-The Hovinds were charged with a total of 58 counts of tax evasion.

-Counts one through 12 include Kent Hovind’s alleged failure to collect nearly $470,000 in employee taxes.

-Counts 13 through 57 include both Kent and Jo Hovind. They are charged with structuring cash transactions of $430,500 to avoid reporting requirements.

-Count 58 includes the following charges against Kent Hovind:
Filing a frivolous lawsuit against the IRS, demanding damages for criminal trespass.

-Filing an injunction against an IRS agent.

-Making threats against investigators and those cooperating with the investigation.

-Filing false complaints against the IRS for false arrest, excessive use of force and theft.

 Quoting: ANHEDONIC

Apparently you do not understand how the government can work when they want to silence someone...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62756798


Apparently you don't understand why he and his wife made 45 cash withdrawals of exactly $9500 or $9600 over a one year period....

What about all of the other notable individuals who have gained a widespread following advocating/teaching creationism? Why haven't they been 'silenced' by the government if there was such an agenda underfoot? They had not been prohibited from doing what they do. Could it be because they did not scheme to commit tax evasion while running a profitable business operation?

:sarcasm1:
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They had a lot of people working at the amusement park most of it went to paying them but non the less Creation can not be disproven like Evolution can be disproven.
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I LOVE KENT!!

though he is a Christian he still does a pretty damn job in proving the OT and magnifying G-d's holy name in this earth!!
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Kent Hovind is schedule to be released in August 2015, He is the greatest creationist and does great works for The Lord.

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clappa
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I liked him and what he had to say when I saw him speak and bought his pack of videos about 15 years ago.

This was all unnecessary, and repeatedly avoidable, but he chose every bit of this fight, and yes they are sticking it to him bad.

I'm disappointed because, in the end, he was greedy and big $$ was very important to him...

He could easily have been compliant, paid taxes he could have afforded, and still done very well for himself, while doing a great job delivering a great message

but he had to fuck it all up

apparently
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ok lets say he is corrupt,and he isnt being set up to be silenced...why do fuck dont you recognize him for what he is doing good instead of only looking at the bad stuff?

are you aware how fucking corrupt your government and justice system is?and you dont mind being spoon fd by them,just stfu you bastard

i have to insult you because i fail to see why you are coming here always taking things at face value and not having any critical thinking skills of your own...you idiot,that guy is telling the truth and most of it is incredibly important
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Thanks for resorting to name-calling... I never said anything bad about the individual in question. Someone was trying to claim he was being persecuted only for his ideology and I simply pointed out he engaged in tax evasion and failed to pay other taxes while trying to hide his business operation behind his 'ministry'. What he did to get himself into legal trouble was dishonest and lacked integrity. Where did I ever challenge the man's beliefs? No where... Relax a bit okay?

They had a lot of people working at the amusement park most of it went to paying them but non the less Creation can not be disproven like Evolution can be disproven.
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You can read more about the details of the case here:
[link to en.wikisource.org]

When you employ salaried and hourly employees in a business operation you have to file & pay taxes on that income... He chose not too and that's why they were making cash withdrawals so frequently and paying them in cash. He tried to avoid categorizing his employees as 'employees' and instead tried to claim they were 'missionaries'.
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I liked him and what he had to say when I saw him speak and bought his pack of videos about 15 years ago.

This was all unnecessary, and repeatedly avoidable, but he chose every bit of this fight, and yes they are sticking it to him bad.

I'm disappointed because, in the end, he was greedy and big $$ was very important to him...

He could easily have been compliant, paid taxes he could have afforded, and still done very well for himself, while doing a great job delivering a great message

but he had to fuck it all up

apparently
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64988467


A fair assessment....





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