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Breaking News: Writ Quo Warranto - Every Federal District Court Has Been Served

 
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On what basis do you make this claim? It is part of the original US Constitution ratified by the 11 states in 1788 with two more following in 1790.
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I guess my math is off. If art. 1 sec. 8 is in the organic Constitution, how did congress know 83 years in advance that Washington D.C. would be formed? Maybe I am ill informed.
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Highlighted in bold is part of Article 1 Section 8 regarding formation of a district for the federal government.
To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--AndTo make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

The Residence Act of 1790 was the law passed to use land offered up by Maryland and Virginia for the new US capital disctrict. The city of Washington was founded within this District in 1791. Also in this district were settlements of Georgetown and Alexandria. Alexandria was returned to Virginia in 1846. The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 merged the two cities of Washington and Georgetown and their local governments into one unified District of Columbia.
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Yes, the ignorant powers that be were tricked into giving up their land to form the U.S. Corporation, just as federal reserve act was snuck in when most were on Christmas leave. You might want to watch this cute but serious cartoon about banking.

 Quoting: Tropical


And again:
by the way,

That 'document' (in your first post)
is not 'proof'
that 'every state'
has FORMED grand juries, (not to mention "FILED" the writ),

.....sooooo.....
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On what basis do you make this claim? It is part of the original US Constitution ratified by the 11 states in 1788 with two more following in 1790.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288758


I guess my math is off. If art. 1 sec. 8 is in the organic Constitution, how did congress know 83 years in advance that Washington D.C. would be formed? Maybe I am ill informed.
 Quoting: Tropical


Highlighted in bold is part of Article 1 Section 8 regarding formation of a district for the federal government.
To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--AndTo make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

The Residence Act of 1790 was the law passed to use land offered up by Maryland and Virginia for the new US capital disctrict. The city of Washington was founded within this District in 1791. Also in this district were settlements of Georgetown and Alexandria. Alexandria was returned to Virginia in 1846. The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 merged the two cities of Washington and Georgetown and their local governments into one unified District of Columbia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288758


Yes, the ignorant powers that be were tricked into giving up their land to form the U.S. Corporation, just as federal reserve act was snuck in when most were on Christmas leave. You might want to watch this cute but serious cartoon about banking.

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Where are you getting this crap? No one was tricked. Two states chose to give a tiny piece of land for the federal government district. Both states previously VOTED to ratify the US Constitution and thus supported Article 1 Section 8.

Maryland is 12,407 square miles. Virginia is 42,769 square miles. D.C. is limited to a maximum of 100 square miles by the Constitution. A tiny amount of land compared to what both states own. Both states also greatly benefit from the economic gain of bordering the capital. It was a very smart move on their part.

I already know about the Federal Reserve. That is just a strawman in the discussion of the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 that you completely twisted.
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For those in the know, this is Huge news!!

The Line in the Sand - Breaking News November 10, 2014 Unified Common Law Grand Jury in every State files writ of quo warranto. PDF here: [link to www.nationallibertyalliance.org] in every Federal District Court, United States Supreme Court and served upon every Federal Judge and all 9 US Supreme Court Justices. Information in the nature of a quo warranto.




 Quoting: Tropical


That "national liberty alliance" link

is NOT 'proof'

that a "Grand Jury"

has formed in every state,

for the purpose of filing writs (any writs)...


That 'document' is a boiler-plate type instrument

that COULD be utilized for 'serving as a writ',

(though i doubt it--due to it's vagueness).


Oh..and..regarding the "Rothchilds" banking practices--

"lending" money out is a risky business, and NO ONE

FORCES YOU TO BORROW MONEY...

...soooooooooo....
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For those in the know, this is Huge news!!

The Line in the Sand - Breaking News November 10, 2014 Unified Common Law Grand Jury in every State files writ of quo warranto. PDF here: [link to www.nationallibertyalliance.org] in every Federal District Court, United States Supreme Court and served upon every Federal Judge and all 9 US Supreme Court Justices. Information in the nature of a quo warranto.




 Quoting: Tropical


That "national liberty alliance" link

is NOT 'proof'

that a "Grand Jury"

has formed in every state,

for the purpose of filing writs (any writs)...


That 'document' is a boiler-plate type instrument

that COULD be utilized for 'serving as a writ',

(though i doubt it--due to it's vagueness).


Oh..and..regarding the "Rothchilds" banking practices--

"lending" money out is a risky business, and NO ONE

FORCES YOU TO BORROW MONEY...

...soooooooooo....
 Quoting: anonymous coward 28649115


For those in the know, this is Huge news!!

The Line in the Sand - Breaking News November 10, 2014 Unified Common Law Grand Jury in every State files writ of quo warranto. PDF here: [link to www.nationallibertyalliance.org] in every Federal District Court, United States Supreme Court and served upon every Federal Judge and all 9 US Supreme Court Justices. Information in the nature of a quo warranto.




 Quoting: Tropical


That "national liberty alliance" link

is NOT 'proof'

that a "Grand Jury"

has formed in every state,

for the purpose of filing writs (any writs)...


That 'document' is a boiler-plate type instrument

that COULD be utilized for 'serving as a writ',

(though i doubt it--due to it's vagueness).


Oh..and..regarding the "Rothchilds" banking practices--

"lending" money out is a risky business, and NO ONE

FORCES YOU TO BORROW MONEY...

...soooooooooo....
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So under penalty of improsinment and death they require you to have drivers license, home inspection, insurance, registration, permits to hunt or fish, the list goes on and on, this is a form of forcing people to borrow, especially since 50 years ago there were many more self sustainable people, they were all forced into borrowing. Dont you see?
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Thread: Give me liberty or give me DEATH!
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I will say this, he/she is right in the sense, that courts do not recognize the freeman.
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As the lack of recognition in the law or any court of the legal assumptions of the freemen movement is my entire argument, it appears you agree with everything I've said.

This thread was not started for you to come in and tell us what we already knew. It needs support and positive intentions.
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If how you feel while you're offering an argument in court defined its utility, that might be relevant. But your feels have nothing to do with the value of the claims being offered.

The fundamental assumptions of the argument are where its utility are found. And the distinction between 'your person' and yourself aren't one recognized by any court or the law. Making any legal argument based on such assumptions worse than useless. At best, they waste time. At worst, they can land folks in jail if they try to use them to justify violations of the law.

"Feeling good" about your argument, I leave to you. My role is to help folks come up with a useful argument that can actually benefit them in court.

With that said, here is a brief paragraph on one of the reasons this movement started. " The date is February 21, 1871 and the Forty-First Congress is in session. I refer you to the "Acts of the Forty-First Congress," Section 34, Session III, chapters 61 and 62. On this date in the history of our nation, Congress passed an Act titled: "An Act To Provide A Government for the District of Columbia." This is also known as the "Act of 1871." What does this mean? Well, it means that Congress, under no constitutional authority to do so, created a separate form of government for the District of Columbia, which is a ten mile square parcel of land "
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You say that the congress had no power to create a District. The Constittuion has a very different take:

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States

Article 1, Section 8
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Nixing pretty much your entire argument regarding the District. And the District of Columbia long precedes the 1871 law. The USSC decision Longborough V. Blake cites the district of Columbia as being part of the US.

In 1820.

Again I will say, this movement to go back to common law and our organic Constitution started right after Vietnam and has been in the works sense then.
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Why 'after Vietnam'? It seems rather arbitrary. Especially since you said that the District of Columbia was 'forced' on the States in 1871. Why not 1871?

Or given the Longborough decision, why not 1820?

It takes a hell of a long time to get the PTB out of office when they have been there for hundreds and hundreds of years. It was known that it would not be an overnight thing, or an easy task. Our movement has only been around about 41 years and I consider that, DAMN good progress, considering how long the illuminate have been in charge.
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So the existence of your movement is a demonstration of 'damn good progress'. Well then the Flat Earthers have you licked. They've been demonstrating similar 'damn good progress' since 1956.

Just to reiterate. Washington D.C. is only in charge of it's 10 square miles of area. They do not run the U.S., but the States let D.C. use them so they can keep getting funds.
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What do you mean 'run'? The United States is DC, the States and the territories. And the jurisdiction of the laws of the United States applies throughout the US. Especially after the 14th amendment and the adoption of the doctrine of selective incorporation by the USSC.

Before both, the Bill of Rights didn't apply to the States. Now most of it does.
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Thread: Bob Schultz of "We The People": No more Petitions! Calls for OUTRIGHT DEFIANCE!

What ever happened to Bob?


Thread: Bob Schultz of "We The People": No more Petitions! Calls for OUTRIGHT DEFIANCE!
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There is a legal difference between a living man, woman or child and a "person". Identity theft is not the same crime as kidnapping, therefore, there is a difference between stealing a PERSON and the act of stealing a living man, woman or child.
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BEWARE that a gold-fringed flag = the flag of the Corporation of the United States and not the organic United States.

BEWARE the deception is massive.
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Says who? Certainly not the law or the courts.
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There is a legal difference between a living man, woman or child and a "person". Identity theft is not the same crime as kidnapping, therefore, there is a difference between stealing a PERSON and the act of stealing a living man, woman or child.
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Again, says who? If there's a legal difference, it will be remarkably easy for you to find the law saying as much. And of course, the law saying that only 'persons' are subject to the jurisdiction of the law...but not living men, women or children.

I think you'll find that both 'laws' are quite imaginary.
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This is all fine and dandy and I understand the Constitutional premise BUT riddle me this:

Where are the "TEETH of Enforcement" of this "Writ"?
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This is all fine and dandy and I understand the Constitutional premise BUT riddle me this:

Where are the "TEETH of Enforcement" of this "Writ"?
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Its all gums.

Here's my question: where's the authority to 'command' the judiciary to disband. Remember, the guys who formed this 'grand jury' weren't appointed or elected by anyone. They appointed themselves.

If any group of guys can disband our entire judiciary by printing up a 'writ' with Microsoft Word and an HP printer, then we effectively don't have a government.
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This is all fine and dandy and I understand the Constitutional premise BUT riddle me this:

Where are the "TEETH of Enforcement" of this "Writ"?
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Very important question!!!!


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I guess my math is off. If art. 1 sec. 8 is in the organic Constitution, how did congress know 83 years in advance that Washington D.C. would be formed? Maybe I am ill informed.
 Quoting: Tropical


Highlighted in bold is part of Article 1 Section 8 regarding formation of a district for the federal government.
To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--AndTo make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

The Residence Act of 1790 was the law passed to use land offered up by Maryland and Virginia for the new US capital disctrict. The city of Washington was founded within this District in 1791. Also in this district were settlements of Georgetown and Alexandria. Alexandria was returned to Virginia in 1846. The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 merged the two cities of Washington and Georgetown and their local governments into one unified District of Columbia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288758


Yes, the ignorant powers that be were tricked into giving up their land to form the U.S. Corporation, just as federal reserve act was snuck in when most were on Christmas leave. You might want to watch this cute but serious cartoon about banking.

 Quoting: Tropical


Where are you getting this crap? No one was tricked. Two states chose to give a tiny piece of land for the federal government district. Both states previously VOTED to ratify the US Constitution and thus supported Article 1 Section 8.

Maryland is 12,407 square miles. Virginia is 42,769 square miles. D.C. is limited to a maximum of 100 square miles by the Constitution. A tiny amount of land compared to what both states own. Both states also greatly benefit from the economic gain of bordering the capital. It was a very smart move on their part.

I already know about the Federal Reserve. That is just a strawman in the discussion of the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 that you completely twisted.
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Its too bad most of us don't listen to AC's trying to prove the government to be in the right. Since when has that EVER happened?
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Its too bad most of us don't listen to AC's trying to prove the government to be in the right. Since when has that EVER happened?
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Do you even disagree with anything he posted? Or is this just the generic 'attack the messenger' shtick.
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Basically, Our Constitution was usurped with a corporate one way back when the 13th amendment was replaced with the 14th and made everyone slaves to the corporation. There are several good websites that talk about this and a lot more. When you do business, you are a corporation too. That is why everything in your name is in all caps. This is the fictitious entity created at your birth with your birth certificate aka(straw man). You birth certificate is a bond worth millions and millions of dollars.
You are chattel to the government. When a mom gives birth and signs the birth certificate, she is awarding custody to the State. This is why family services can take your kids. You rent them, you do not own them. The Sate allows you to take care of them until they deem you unfit, or some other B.S. reason to take them. I could go on and on, but to make a long story short, we are supposed to be going back to the organic constitution and common law. Common law says, there has to be an injured party or you damage someones property in order for there to have been a crime. If you look at Washington D.C. today, we have over 60,000 laws on the books. Do we really need all of these useless laws? I don't think so. They were created to create revenue.
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I'm going to correct some of your misguided information, hopefully you learn something from it.cool2

Basically, Our Constitution was usurped with a corporate one way back when the 13th amendment was replaced with the 14th and made everyone slaves to the corporation.
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The original Constitution was not usurped with a corporate one. In 1871 the original jurisdiction government via the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 creating a privately owned corporation to serve the business needs of the government and established its owned Constitution that looks very similar to the original except for the missing 13th amendment.

There are several good websites that talk about this and a lot more..
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No there isn't, the only law website is teamlaw (dot) org. All others are either misinformed, created by PAYtriots, or government provocateurs. Teamlaw is the only website that actually has a solution to whats going on in American today.


When you do business, you are a corporation too. That is why everything in your name is in all caps. This is the fictitious entity created at your birth with your birth certificate aka(straw man).
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All caps does not mean you are a corporation, the STATE officials have their computer systems automated to capitalize the entire name as it is faster that way. You, like most in the movement realize that the living breathing man has rights secured by the Constitution and since most of the laws would be unconstitutional if applied to the man so you came up with the idea that it must be a fiction entity being charged which has no rights.

You don't understand that the SSN differentiates between the man and the taxpayer. The man has rights, the taxpayer being a creation of the SSA has privileges which is why it requires a license to drive and has to pay taxes.

The man and the taxpayer are two different entities, something very few people realize and understand.

The sovereign man has the right to travel freely. The taxpayer does not.

The sovereign man has the right to keep the fruits of his labor. The taxpayer does not.

The sovereign man has the right to run a business without a license. The taxpayer does not.

You birth certificate is a bond worth millions and millions of dollars.
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No its not and the claim itself is ridiculous.


You are chattel to the government.
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The sovereign people of this land aren't chattel to the government, but you could say taxpayers are chattel to the UNITED STATES and I would agree.


When a mom gives birth and signs the birth certificate, she is awarding custody to the State. This is why family services can take your kids. You rent them, you do not own them. The Sate allows you to take care of them until they deem you unfit, or some other B.S. reason to take them.
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Most people who have children do so with a marriage license which is a three party contract between the spouses and the state granting the state with authority. Also when most children are born today they are assigned SSN and the state loves to abuse the powers of presumption to take children away. And yes the state loves nothing more than to use B.S. reason to steal children away, unbelievable that people put up with it.



we have over 60,000 laws on the books. Do we really need all of these useless laws? I don't think so. They were created to create revenue.
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No we don't need most of those laws and those laws do seem to generate an awful amount of revenue so I would say you are correct in this statement.
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All you basically did was, explain what I said in the first explanation. The Constitution became a corporate one as soon as the 13th amendment was omitted. It was then redone with all Caps and became inorganic. I am sorry I don't take up the whole forum to explain things. This is why I said there are several sites to explain things. I did not give all sites, but if you want to get technical, Blacks Law is the best. I don't see what you did as correction, I see it as explaining deeper. We both said the same things, I just did not expel on the matter. Just to add something. The birth certificate is worth money. I have researched this and know. When the mother gives birth, she delivers the baby through the watery birth canal. Where are ships birthed? In the water. You are born into Admiralty Law and the birth certificate is your second entity, which is the straw man. The foot print on the birth certificate tells the corporation that it is in fact a live birth and not a forgery. You may have been told that all caps makes it easier, I thought so too until I did my homework. You can drive an auto without a lic. too, it's just a pain in the ass. We have someone doing just that right here where I live. The problem is, it's downright impossible to conduct commerce without the straw man. When you give up your social, renounce the corporation, and quit paying taxes, you basically have no where to go but the woods.
You are chattel, because you are worth so much money to the state. This is how crimes are charged in court. When you go before the Judge, you are CHARGED, just like a credit card. When the debt is paid, or your bond is mature, you are released from prison. If you have enough money to pay for the person whom you wronged or killed, you do not go to jail, because you satisfied the court with your payment. The amount of payment is determined by a formula that says you would have lived for such and such amount of years and paid in so much in taxes. This is your amount owed to the court. Look at O.J. Simpson. We knew he was guilty. Judges just love for you to lose, because that gives them access to you birth account so they can pad their retirement. This is only a scratch on the surface, The rabbit hole is very deep.
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been reading about this stuff for the last 5 years and i feel like i have made no progress and feel i still dont understand. part of the reason i want to be a lawyer is so that when i try this and they throw the book at me at least i think i will have a chance... would love to chat with you some time about all this trop.
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Pay attention if the flag in the court room has a gold fringe, be ware. Get that Gold Fringe Off My Flag!

Know why your drivers license name is in all CAPS?

It is all UCC now.

You are a ward of the state until 18, and then your energy has been bundled and sold, much like Emanate Domain; thanks Billary.
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This all bullshit, my birth certificate and drivers license are regular lowercase with a capital letter for every name. Nothing is all caps. This is texas by the way.
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Pay attention if the flag in the court room has a gold fringe, be ware. Get that Gold Fringe Off My Flag!

Know why your drivers license name is in all CAPS?

It is all UCC now.

You are a ward of the state until 18, and then your energy has been bundled and sold, much like Emanate Domain; thanks Billary.
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This all bullshit, my birth certificate and drivers license are regular lowercase with a capital letter for every name. Nothing is all caps. This is texas by the way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61004691


It wouldn't matter if they were in CAPS. It has no legal relevance to the document. The entire 'upper case/lower case' distinction is invented nonsense.....like the 'legal person/living person' claims.
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Pay attention if the flag in the court room has a gold fringe, be ware. Get that Gold Fringe Off My Flag!

Know why your drivers license name is in all CAPS?

It is all UCC now.

You are a ward of the state until 18, and then your energy has been bundled and sold, much like Emanate Domain; thanks Billary.
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This all bullshit, my birth certificate and drivers license are regular lowercase with a capital letter for every name. Nothing is all caps. This is texas by the way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61004691


It wouldn't matter if they were in CAPS. It has no legal relevance to the document. The entire 'upper case/lower case' distinction is invented nonsense.....like the 'legal person/living person' claims.
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If it did not matter, they would not be all caps on any legal document. Every jot and tittle means something in law.

As for the rest of your ignorant drivel about "persons" in any form, learn to read, a "person" in any form is legally defined as a corporation.

I would post the actual case law and federal definitions, but you would still be ignorant and not worth the effort.
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Pay attention if the flag in the court room has a gold fringe, be ware. Get that Gold Fringe Off My Flag!

Know why your drivers license name is in all CAPS?

It is all UCC now.

You are a ward of the state until 18, and then your energy has been bundled and sold, much like Emanate Domain; thanks Billary.
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This all bullshit, my birth certificate and drivers license are regular lowercase with a capital letter for every name. Nothing is all caps. This is texas by the way.
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Hmm. My Texas BC, driver's license and CHL are all caps, name and address.
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If it did not matter, they would not be all caps on any legal document. Every jot and tittle means something in law.


To make it easier to read. For the freemen claims to be valid, they'd have to show that 1) it made a legal difference 2) That it made the difference that they claimed it did.

They can't do either. The law backs neither play. Nor do the courts recognize either claim. The entire 'uppercase/lowercase' distinction in law is meaningless nonsense, backed by nothing.

As for the rest of your ignorant drivel about "persons" in any form, learn to read, a "person" in any form is legally defined as a corporation.
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Then show us in the law where it indicates that your name is that of a corporation and not a person. Or that recognizes that the law only applies to the 'legal person' but not living people.

You'll find that both claims, central to the entire freeman argument, are imaginary nonsense.

And I'll ask again, what's the use of a legal argument that isn't recognized by the law or any court?
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11/11/2014 07:44 PM
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Pay attention if the flag in the court room has a gold fringe, be ware. Get that Gold Fringe Off My Flag!

Know why your drivers license name is in all CAPS?

It is all UCC now.

You are a ward of the state until 18, and then your energy has been bundled and sold, much like Emanate Domain; thanks Billary.
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This all bullshit, my birth certificate and drivers license are regular lowercase with a capital letter for every name. Nothing is all caps. This is texas by the way.
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Hmm. My Texas BC, driver's license and CHL are all caps, name and address.
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And where in Texas law does it indicate that there's a legal difference on official documents?
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11/11/2014 07:45 PM
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lol some people are just too stupid to connect the dots. funny tho his grammar and syntax seem to be on par
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Pay attention if the flag in the court room has a gold fringe, be ware. Get that Gold Fringe Off My Flag!

Know why your drivers license name is in all CAPS?

It is all UCC now.

You are a ward of the state until 18, and then your energy has been bundled and sold, much like Emanate Domain; thanks Billary.
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This all bullshit, my birth certificate and drivers license are regular lowercase with a capital letter for every name. Nothing is all caps. This is texas by the way.
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Hmm. My Texas BC, driver's license and CHL are all caps, name and address.
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And where in Texas law does it indicate that there's a legal difference on official documents?
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why does it explicitly need to be stated in a resolution in order for you to acknowledge the idea of the straw man, and why would they even want to explicitly acknowledge it in the first place.. just leave the thread bro your pitiful
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11/11/2014 07:48 PM
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And just to clear up something, a Birth certificate has the newborn babies feet prints on the document.

What some call a "birth certificate" is actually a "certified copy" in some form and not a birth certificate.

Again, of names being in all Capitol letters did not mean anything, then there would be no reason for anyone's legal name to be in all captitol lettèrs on ANY LEGAL DOCUMENT. The very fact names are written in all capitol letters on certain legal documents is proof enough there is a legal reason behind it.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
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11/11/2014 07:50 PM
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Pay attention if the flag in the court room has a gold fringe, be ware. Get that Gold Fringe Off My Flag!

Know why your drivers license name is in all CAPS?

It is all UCC now.

You are a ward of the state until 18, and then your energy has been bundled and sold, much like Emanate Domain; thanks Billary.
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This all bullshit, my birth certificate and drivers license are regular lowercase with a capital letter for every name. Nothing is all caps. This is texas by the way.
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Hmm. My Texas BC, driver's license and CHL are all caps, name and address.
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And where in Texas law does it indicate that there's a legal difference on official documents?
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Law predates "Texas law" (whatever the hell that is) by 6000 years. To presume all law is found in or founded in "Texas law" is a ignorant position, but that is your position, after all.
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11/11/2014 07:51 PM
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And just to clear up something, a Birth certificate has the newborn babies feet prints on the document.

What some call a "birth certificate" is actually a "certified copy" in some form and not a birth certificate.

Again, of names being in all Capitol letters did not mean anything, then there would be no reason for anyone's legal name to be in all captitol lettèrs on ANY LEGAL DOCUMENT. The very fact names are written in all capitol letters on certain legal documents is proof enough there is a legal reason behind it.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
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Then show us the law indicating that the use of caps on a birth certificate indicates the creation of a corporation...and not the birth of a person.

If its as universal as you seem to be alleging, it will be remarkably easy for you to show us.

If its imaginary nonsense void of any connection to reality, we'll get more insults and excuses for why you can't possibly back claim up.

Pick one.
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This all bullshit, my birth certificate and drivers license are regular lowercase with a capital letter for every name. Nothing is all caps. This is texas by the way.
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Hmm. My Texas BC, driver's license and CHL are all caps, name and address.
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And where in Texas law does it indicate that there's a legal difference on official documents?
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Law predates "Texas law" (whatever the hell that is) by 6000 years. To presume all law is found in or founded in "Texas law" is a ignorant position, but that is your position, after all.
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Texas law would be laws passed by the State of Texas.

I've never claimd that all law is found in or founded on 'Texas Law'. I'm asking where in Texas law it indicates that capitalization has any legal relevance on a Texas birth certificate.

And so far, nothing. Its surprising how many of these 'freemen' claims work best when no one asks questions about them.
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This all bullshit, my birth certificate and drivers license are regular lowercase with a capital letter for every name. Nothing is all caps. This is texas by the way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61004691


Hmm. My Texas BC, driver's license and CHL are all caps, name and address.
 Quoting: Hard Eight


And where in Texas law does it indicate that there's a legal difference on official documents?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65053671


why does it explicitly need to be stated in a resolution in order for you to acknowledge the idea of the straw man, and why would they even want to explicitly acknowledge it in the first place.. just leave the thread bro your pitiful
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He is under the "spell". The idea that Texas or the US created law and is all incclusive in its laws is laughable.

The US recognizes many forms of law and jurisdictions, ah, he is an idiot, enough said.
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This all bullshit, my birth certificate and drivers license are regular lowercase with a capital letter for every name. Nothing is all caps. This is texas by the way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61004691


Hmm. My Texas BC, driver's license and CHL are all caps, name and address.
 Quoting: Hard Eight


And where in Texas law does it indicate that there's a legal difference on official documents?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65053671


why does it explicitly need to be stated in a resolution in order for you to acknowledge the idea of the straw man, and why would they even want to explicitly acknowledge it in the first place.. just leave the thread bro your pitiful
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If its the law in Texas that capitalization of a name on a birth certificate records the creation of a corporation and not the birth of a living child, show us the law that says this.

Can I take it that no one has thought to ask this question before? As you guys seem offended I brought it up.





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