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Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data.

 
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is the Saturn V a direct reproduction of an ancient rocket?
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There are no direct reproductions of anything. The last space age civilization died over 32.000 years ago.

While there have been some pieces of technology recovered and retro engineered most discoveries from this ancient time were done in the following manner.

Specific people recovered the records of a world wide informaton web that once existed.

Scientists knowing that something like that once existed started to wrap their heads around the concept and came up with the internet.

The original web included a neural intrface that for all intents and purposes allowed advanced telepatic interaction with digital space or perhaps even some sort of a pocket dimention created or accessed for that purpose.

Currently we have wires and digital space, the web is based on something entirely different and far more primitive but the concept and manner of usage is the same. Current civilization is rehashing ancient concepts in a simpler way, it rarely recreates scientific solutions directly.
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:AlterweltWeb:
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Wonder how the "neural interface" to this "virtual reality" was accessed exactly...
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They have said they did not know. But guess it was available to most or at least the elite.
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what are they taking out of the gobi desert? why can't they directly reproduce anything from there?

at what point was von braun given the information he gleaned from?
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has the Smithsonian destroyed all evidence of ancient civs?

what did they find in the grand canyon, and what civ was it from?
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caligula? what's up with him? was he crazy? were the stories of his brutal reign true? anything about him that was never revealed?
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what about the catholic saints?

did any of them have special abilities? come form a specific lineage? chosen for political reasons?

if you need specific saints lets say

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Hello, Alterwelt.

I have a few questions that I would like to ask you:

1. There's a village in France called Carnac - famous for it's collection of megalithic stones, lined up in a long lines. Who and when erected them and for what purpose? Why all the effort of putting large stones in specific formations that stretches out for many kilometers?

2. Serapeum tomb in Egypt, Saqqara. What was the purpose of giant stone boxes that stand there?

3. Masuda No Iwafune stone in Japan. It looks like the stone was cut and shaped. Who did it, when and why?

4. Ollantaytambo, Peru. There are huge walls made of stones of various shapes and sizes. Most of the stones have visible bumps on their surface - so called 'knobs'. Are these knobs just the byproduct of the stone forming process or they served other specific purpose?

5. Lake Winnipesaukee stone. Who made it? When? And what was the purpose of this stone?

Thank you :)
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Medusa from greek mythology

real person that the legend grew around and people added to it?

analogy for something else?
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what about the catholic saints?

did any of them have special abilities? come form a specific lineage? chosen for political reasons?

if you need specific saints lets say

st patrick
st augustine
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No, a very few of these people had what you call special abilities but that was due to them being unusual for specific reasons not related to them being christians.

St. Francis for example could communicate with animals on a level humans forgot.
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Hello, Alterwelt.

I have a few questions that I would like to ask you:

1. There's a village in France called Carnac - famous for it's collection of megalithic stones, lined up in a long lines. Who and when erected them and for what purpose? Why all the effort of putting large stones in specific formations that stretches out for many kilometers?
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The stones were erected some 11.900 years ago by the survivors of the flood. The locals being forced to revert to a hunter gatherer lifestyle, having their civilization destroyed wanted to leave behind a memento. They did so to the best of their abilities.
2. Serapeum tomb in Egypt, Saqqara. What was the purpose of giant stone boxes that stand there?
 Quoting: M1ndL3zz

They were used to store elements of a powerful device with magnetic capabilities that originated from an even earlier period.
3. Masuda No Iwafune stone in Japan. It looks like the stone was cut and shaped. Who did it, when and why?
 Quoting: M1ndL3zz

I am unfamiliar with this stone.
4. Ollantaytambo, Peru. There are huge walls made of stones of various shapes and sizes. Most of the stones have visible bumps on their surface - so called 'knobs'. Are these knobs just the byproduct of the stone forming process or they served other specific purpose?
 Quoting: M1ndL3zz

The knobs are leftovers from a rather "sucker" that was used to manipulate the stones. The sucker was made of steel and was the only place in which the stone was actually touched. Because the stone itself was at this point gelatinous in constitution once the sucker detached it left a curious mark.
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Medusa from greek mythology

real person that the legend grew around and people added to it?

analogy for something else?
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Ancient pre-hellenic people from whom most of these myths originate were once aware of a tomb in which a ruler was lying. She was adorned with a device that induced paralysis.

Tomb robbers that attempted to raid the tomb fell victim to this device and died immobilized all around the corpse. The device itself was actually recovered and will, knowing people resurface soon enough as a weapon that targets the nervous system.
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has the Smithsonian destroyed all evidence of ancient civs?
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Of course not! They're scientists they merely hide it from the profane and the masses. They have not damaged a pebble for decades now.
what did they find in the grand canyon, and what civ was it from?
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Several overlayed civilizations, Phoenicians among others.
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caligula? what's up with him? was he crazy? were the stories of his brutal reign true? anything about him that was never revealed?
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An utterly insane man. There is quite a lot about him that was never revealed but it concerns mostly what he did to children and corpses.
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what are they taking out of the gobi desert?
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Pottery, records, metal and alloy items, all the artifacts you find in a well preserved city.
why can't they directly reproduce anything from there?
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Nothing, when the people who lived in the Gobi left their city states they already declined to a technology level analogous to european seventeeth century with some elements of high technology.

Technologically speaking there is little to gain there, it's the intact records and continuity of history that's derived from them that's the real cath.
at what point was von braun given the information he gleaned from?
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No idea. World War Two is a litral mess, not even we can untagle it. Suffice to say he was given the records and technical readouts durign the war.
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Hello, Alterwelt.

I have a few questions that I would like to ask you:

1. There's a village in France called Carnac - famous for it's collection of megalithic stones, lined up in a long lines. Who and when erected them and for what purpose? Why all the effort of putting large stones in specific formations that stretches out for many kilometers?
 Quoting: M1ndL3zz

The stones were erected some 11.900 years ago by the survivors of the flood. The locals being forced to revert to a hunter gatherer lifestyle, having their civilization destroyed wanted to leave behind a memento. They did so to the best of their abilities.
2. Serapeum tomb in Egypt, Saqqara. What was the purpose of giant stone boxes that stand there?
 Quoting: M1ndL3zz

They were used to store elements of a powerful device with magnetic capabilities that originated from an even earlier period.
3. Masuda No Iwafune stone in Japan. It looks like the stone was cut and shaped. Who did it, when and why?
 Quoting: M1ndL3zz

I am unfamiliar with this stone.
4. Ollantaytambo, Peru. There are huge walls made of stones of various shapes and sizes. Most of the stones have visible bumps on their surface - so called 'knobs'. Are these knobs just the byproduct of the stone forming process or they served other specific purpose?
 Quoting: M1ndL3zz

The knobs are leftovers from a rather "sucker" that was used to manipulate the stones. The sucker was made of steel and was the only place in which the stone was actually touched. Because the stone itself was at this point gelatinous in constitution once the sucker detached it left a curious mark.
 Quoting: Alterwelt

Very interesting possible validation of the stone artifacts. Well done!

[link to davidpratt.info]

"Many stones in ‘Inca’ walls have strange protuberances or bosses, of several shapes and sizes, which appear to mar the beauty of the masonry. They are generally found on the lower part of blocks that have been fitted. It is commonly assumed that they were used in handling the blocks, perhaps by attaching ropes to them or applying levers against them. Blocks at the quarries tend to have large protuberances whereas blocks that have been fitted, or are found lying around at Inca construction sites, or were abandoned along the route from the quarry have much smaller protuberances. The latter could not have had ropes tied to them; what’s more, the positioning of the protuberances seems rather random. Since they were clearly not needed for transportation or for handling the blocks at the building sites, and were not always removed once the blocks were in place, they may have had some symbolic function. Similar protuberances can be seen on blocks in the Osireion temple at Abydos, Egypt, and on some of the granite casing stones used on the lower part of the Third (‘Menkaure’) Pyramid at Giza."

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Alterwelt,
I heard a second hand story about a sadhu in a forest in andra pradesh india who could make stone "soft" and malleable by chewing a specific plant (perhaps in combination w other things) and applying it stone. Is this is any way connected to how ancients civs or people made stone "soft" to work it?
Thanks again
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Were levitation techniques used to build Stonehenge or were low tech methods used? Which ever used, how did they move the stones so far from their source?

[link to www.history.com]

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Another one: How exactly were Nazca lines and Stonehenge created, could you describe the techniques used?
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Nazca was created by simple excavation of soil and stone and with the use of simple measuring tools such as wooden stakes.

Stonehenge was created using ropes, pulleys but also a technique of levitating stone, by then the technique was highly imperfect and only alleviated much of the weight rather than actually floating matter in the air.
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I don't think anyone asked about Stonehange yet.

Sup with Stonehenge? What was its purpose, who built it, etc
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People from whom the tradition of druidism originated. It's a permanent structure erected some 6.000 years ago. Prior to it a wooden structure was in place and was first erected more than 10.000 years ago when a people fleeing the results of a changing climate settled in England.

This monument in both its forms was erected as a ritual claim of the land, it essentially tells a bystanted "this is our new home".

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Whether there was Marco Polo, as a historical figure and a traveler, or a fiction by Scaliger?
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2. Serapeum tomb in Egypt, Saqqara. What was the purpose of giant stone boxes that stand there?
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They were used to store elements of a powerful device with magnetic capabilities that originated from an even earlier period.
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And what was this device used for initially?
Why the need to store the elements separately?
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Is there any credence to the accepted story of Adam Weishaupt starting the Bavarian illuminati in Ingolstadt?
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Alterwelt,
I heard a second hand story about a sadhu in a forest in andra pradesh india who could make stone "soft" and malleable by chewing a specific plant (perhaps in combination w other things) and applying it stone. Is this is any way connected to how ancients civs or people made stone "soft" to work it?
Thanks again
Hidden River
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[link to davidpratt.info]

Hiram Bingham roamed South America in the early 1900s and is credited with rediscovering Machu Picchu in 1911. He relates the following:


The modern Peruvians are very fond of speculating as to the method which the Incas employed to make their stones fit so perfectly. One of the favorite stories is that the Incas knew of a plant whose juices rendered the surface of a block so soft that the marvellous fitting was accomplished by rubbing the stones together for a few moments with this magical plant juice!1

Similar tales were heard by another explorer, Percy Fawcett, who disappeared with his older son in 1925 during an expedition to find an ancient lost city in the uncharted jungles of Brazil:

Also much info in this site . . . Were Stones Softened To Build Peru's Ancient Structures? [link to projectavalon.net]

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Who originally built the temple of Baalbek and left the colossal stones in the quarry. How did they manipulate stones that big?
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In South India, more specifically in Kerala, tantric worship exists, where temples follow specific, almost scientific rituals.

These rituals directly follow the vedas. They are 'scientific' in that, rather than just worship, specific mantras (sounds), processes are used to conjure up cosmic energy.

Was tantric worship consistently used elsewhere in earlier civilizations?
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Any info you could provide about Montauk project?
There are many stories and rumors. Most of them are hard to believe :)
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question about animals



1) The native americans talked about a very large bird called the thunderbird. some american cowboys in the 1800s also spoke about a very large bird that sounded metallic when they shot at it and hit it.

what was the thunderbird?


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question about animals



1) The native americans talked about a very large bird called the thunderbird. some american cowboys in the 1800s also spoke about a very large bird that sounded metallic when they shot at it and hit it.

what was the thunderbird?


thanks
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[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Depending on the people telling the story, the thunderbird is either a singular entity or a species. In both cases, it is intelligent, powerful, and wrathful. All agree one should go out of one's way to keep from getting thunderbirds angry.

The singular thunderbird (as the Nuu-chah-nulth thought of it) was said to reside on the top of a mountain, and was the servant of the Great Spirit. It was also told that the thunderbird controlled rainfall.
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more animals

1)marsupials are so different. are they natural hold overs from pre flood? genetic experiments from a former high civ?


same question for these animals b/c they are so different than the rest.

2)panda bears

3)jellyfish

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human problems
were these always found in humans since the start? or did they develop from something else?


male pattern baldness? (why do certain races bald more than others?)

acne?

STD's?

allergies?
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Who originally built the temple of Baalbek and left the colossal stones in the quarry. How did they manipulate stones that big?
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That was not a temple. The building's original purpoe was similar to a town hall. It stood in the centre of an equally gargantuan settlement. It was built by a technologically advanced race of proto-humans via high technology. The precise method is not known but it's plausible to think they used magnetism and cut stones using large saws.

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In South India, more specifically in Kerala, tantric worship exists, where temples follow specific, almost scientific rituals.

These rituals directly follow the vedas. They are 'scientific' in that, rather than just worship, specific mantras (sounds), processes are used to conjure up cosmic energy.

Was tantric worship consistently used elsewhere in earlier civilizations?
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Almost all of Vedas was perverted by time. A great knowledge used in a lesser form by a lesser people.
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2. Serapeum tomb in Egypt, Saqqara. What was the purpose of giant stone boxes that stand there?
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They were used to store elements of a powerful device with magnetic capabilities that originated from an even earlier period.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


And what was this device used for initially?
Why the need to store the elements separately?
 Quoting: M1ndL3zz


It was not used for anything st that point. Even earlier it was a power core of a machine, probably an airship. It was held there as a memorial of sorts. At one point after the deluge the descendants of the locals tried to preserve what they could.

The device itself was long broke and operated in a faulty fashion thus the need for proper measures.
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