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Does anyone remember what Albert Pike said about WWIII?

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Anonymous Coward
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7/29/2006 12:18 PM
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Is this simply a coincidence, or was this all, in fact, part of an elaborate conspiracy by a shadowy organization working in the background? Take a look at these excerpts, which are taken from a letter Pike sent to Giuseppe Mazzini in 1871:

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

Not convinced? Here's what Pike had to say about the first two World Wars:

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."

This was all concocted in 1871 by Albert Pike (notice how he uses the terms Nazism and Zionism, two movements which weren't even invented yet). Some shadow pulls the strings from behind the scenes in order to further a sinister agenda. I know a lot of you here at GLP have read this before, but it never hurts to repost it... especially in light of the current situation in the Middle East, where Pike's WWIII plan is playing out in front of our very eyes.

Take a deep breath, because were taking a plunge into some deep, deep water, my friends. May God help us all...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 123754
7/29/2006 12:25 PM
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This dates back to the first century.

btw, Albert Pike was reburied on the stairs at teh Mason's main HQ.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 123754
7/29/2006 12:26 PM
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on- Under
Anonymous Coward
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7/29/2006 12:27 PM
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I Like Pike.
Anonymous Coward
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7/29/2006 12:27 PM
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albert pike died on the toliet the fat shit.

dick
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 123754
7/29/2006 12:31 PM
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[link to freemasonrywatch.org]
[link to www.srmason-sj.org]
[link to www.juiceenewsdaily.com]
[link to www.modernhistoryproject.org]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 65711
7/29/2006 12:31 PM
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I've never seen this before. It is fascinating. Thanks for posting it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 123871
7/29/2006 12:31 PM
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i've read this many times and for the life of me i cannot find one ounce of proof that nazism...or even the term nazi existed in 1871.....this makes the world war two "quote" somewhat dubious as well as the rest of it....



still looks like it's happening though

just a little odd




[link to www.etymonline.com]




Nazi
1930, from Ger. Nazi, abbreviation of Ger. pronunciation of Nationalsozialist (based on earlier Ger. sozi, popular abbreviaton of "socialist"), from Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei "National Socialist German Workers' Party," led by Hitler from 1920. The 24th edition of Etymologisches Wörterbuch der deutschen Sprache (2002) says the word Nazi was favored in southern Germany (supposedly from c.1924) among opponents of National Socialism because the nickname Nazi (from the masc. proper name Ignatz, Ger. form of Ignatius) was used colloquially to mean "a foolish person, clumsy or awkward person." Ignatz was a popular name in Catholic Austria, and according to one source in WWI Nazi was a generic name in the German Empire for the soldiers of Austria-Hungary. An older use of Nazi for national-sozial is attested in Ger. from 1903, but EWdS does not think it contributed to the word as applied to Hitler and his followers. The NSDAP for a time attempted to adopt the Nazi designation as what the Germans call a "despite-word," but they gave this up, and the NSDAP is said to have generally avoided the term. Before 1930, party members had been called in Eng. National Socialists, which dates from 1923. The use of Nazi Germany, Nazi regime, etc., was popularized by German exiles abroad. From them, it spread into other languages, and eventually brought back to Germany, after the war. In the USSR, the terms national socialist and Nazi were said to have been forbidden after 1932, presumably to avoid any taint to the good word socialist. Soviet literature refers to fascists.
LittleBird
User ID: 123875
7/29/2006 12:40 PM
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Re: war, in his 'Morals and Dogma,' Albert Pike discusses Masonry's 6th degree & states:

"Who can sum up the horrors and woes accumulated in a single war? Masonry is not dazzled with all its pomp and circumstance, all its glitter and glory. War comes with its bloody hand into our very dwellings. It takes from ten thousand homes those who lived there in peace and comfort, held by the tender ties of family and kindred. It drags them away, to die untended, of fever or exposure, in infectious climes; or to be hacked, torn, and mangled in the fierce fight; to fall on the gory field, to rise no more, or to be borne away, in awful agony, to noisome and horrid hospitals. The groans of the battle-field are echoed in sighs of bereavement from thousands of desolated hearths. There is a skeleton in every house, a vacant chair at every table. Returning, the soldier brings worse sorrow to his home, by the infection which he has caught, of camp-vices. The country is demoralized. The national mind is brought down, from the noble interchange of kind offices with another people, to wrath and revenge, and base pride, and the habit of measuring brute strength against brute strength, in battle. Treasures are expended, that would suffice to build ten thousand churches, hospitals, and universities, or rib and tie together a continent with rails of iron. If that treasure were sunk in the sea, it would be calamity enough; but it is put to worse use; for it is expended in cutting into the veins and arteries of human life, until the earth is deluged with a sea of blood."

Beam me up, Scotty! Beam me up soon!
Never mind, Scotty, cuz... "there is no spoon"
Anonymous Coward
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7/29/2006 12:41 PM
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123871, according to what I've read in the past, this organization known as the Illuminati actually invented the Nazi movement and got the ball rolling in Germany during the 1930's. It is believed that Hitler was an agent or at least a shill of this mysterious group. How long before the actual movement took place they concocted it, I do not know, but I suppose it's possible that they devised it before or during the time Albert Pike wrote this letter. I imagine it would take years of planning in order to execute such an elaborate scheme, so nothing surpises me.

The history of the Illuminati is very shadowy, so I can't tell you much. I can only speculate, just like the rest of us. But we will see in time just what wickedness they have in store for us.
Anonymous Coward
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7/29/2006 12:48 PM
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123871, according to what I've read in the past, this organization known as the Illuminati actually invented the Nazi movement and got the ball rolling in Germany during the 1930's. It is believed that Hitler was an agent or at least a shill of this mysterious group. How long before the actual movement took place they concocted it, I do not know, but I suppose it's possible that they devised it before or during the time Albert Pike wrote this letter. I imagine it would take years of planning in order to execute such an elaborate scheme, so nothing surpises me.

The history of the Illuminati is very shadowy, so I can't tell you much. I can only speculate, just like the rest of us. But we will see in time just what wickedness they have in store for us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 123870


yeah...i think i understand all of that....doubt really doubt that what is in the letters is happening now

just found it strange that pike could use the term nazism 50 years before it existed in the way he used it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 123754
7/29/2006 12:49 PM
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Quotes from Morals and Dogma.





"The doctrines of the Bible are often not clothed in the language of strict truth, but in that which was fittest to convey to a rude and ignorant people the practical essentials of the doctrine." (Morals and Dogma, p.224), [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry"



"Every Masonic Lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion." (Morals and Dogma, p.213)



"It is the universal, eternal, immutable religion, such as God planted it in the heart of universal humanity." (Morals and Dogma, p.219)




"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry." (Morals and Dogma, p.819)



"It reverences all the great reformers. It sees in Moses, the Lawgiver of the Jesus, inConfucius and Zoroaster, in Jesus of Nazareth, and in the Arabian Iconoclast, Great Teachers of Morality, and Eminent Reformers, if no more:" (Morals and Dogma, p.525)




"The God of nineteen-twentieths of the Christian world is only Bel, Moloch, Zeus, or at best Osiris, Mithras, or Adonai, under another name, worshipped with the old Pagan ceremonies and ritualistic formulas." (Morals and Dogma, p.295-296)




"The first Masonic Legislator whose memory is preserved to us by history, was Buddha,..(Morals and Dogma, p.277)



"The Bible is an indispensable part of the furniture of a Christian Lodge, only because it is the sacred book of the Christian religion. The Hebrew Pentateuch in a Hebrew Lodge, and the Koran in a Mohammedan one, belong on the altar; and one of these, and the Square and Compass, properly understood, are the Great Lights by which a Mason must walk and work. (Morals and Dogma, p.11)




"Masonry is a search after Light. That search leads us directly back, as you see, to the Kabalah." (Morals and Dogma, p.741)




"To conceive of God as an actuality, and not as a mere nonsubstance or name, which involved non-existence, the Kabala, like the Egyptians, imagined Him to be 'a most occult Light,'"..(Morals and Dogma, p.740)








--quote from a meetings last minutes--

On July 14, 1889, two years before his death, Pike issued the following statement to the 24 Supreme Masonic Councils of the world who were meeting in Paris:

"That which we must say to the crowd is: 'We worship a God, but it is the God one adores without superstition.' "
"To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General (33rd Degree Masons), we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees: 'The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine.' "

"If Lucifer were not God (or "Adonai," the Hebrew word for "Lord" which refers to Yahweh, the God of Israel, whose name they avoided using) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy, and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him? Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also God. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two Gods: darkness being necessary to light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive..."

"...Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of darkness and evil."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 123871
7/29/2006 12:55 PM
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123871, according to what I've read in the past, this organization known as the Illuminati actually invented the Nazi movement and got the ball rolling in Germany during the 1930's. It is believed that Hitler was an agent or at least a shill of this mysterious group. How long before the actual movement took place they concocted it, I do not know, but I suppose it's possible that they devised it before or during the time Albert Pike wrote this letter. I imagine it would take years of planning in order to execute such an elaborate scheme, so nothing surpises me.

The history of the Illuminati is very shadowy, so I can't tell you much. I can only speculate, just like the rest of us. But we will see in time just what wickedness they have in store for us.


yeah...i think i understand all of that....doubt really doubt that what is in the letters is happening now

just found it strange that pike could use the term nazism 50 years before it existed in the way he used it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 123871


there is also no proof of the letters existance:









[link to threeworldwars.com]



"Who was Albert Pike?



Albert Pike and Three World Wars
Continued from Part 1.

Albert Pike received a vision, which he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order, and we can marvel at how accurately it has predicted events that have already taken place.


Pike's Letter to Mazzini
It is a commonly believed fallacy that for a short time, the Pike letter to Mazzini was on display in the British Museum Library in London, and it was copied by William Guy Carr, former Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy. The British Library has confirmed in writing to me that such a document has never been in their possession. Furthermore, in Carr's book, Satan, Prince of this World, Carr includes the following footnote:

"The Keeper of Manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum Library. It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez's knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925".

It appears that Carr learned about this letter from Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, who wrote The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled.

To date, no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written. Nevertheless, the letter is widely quoted and the topic of much discussion.

Following are apparently extracts of the letter......."




still...everything seems to be going according to the "plan"....

i'm not at all trying to debunk this...i've posted this same letter here several times....


just pointing out what doesn't add up to me
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 123754
7/29/2006 1:00 PM
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So what do you all think about the quotes from the Morals and Dogma?

::hard to debunk eh::

: p
Wizard's First Rule
User ID: 119147
7/29/2006 1:06 PM
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Just because it was written in a book does not make it non-fiction or truth. Without knowing the person Pike truly was nor his true intentions, we can never know what motivated his writing nor how much of it is deception vs. truth.

That being said it is interesting.

Where can we find proof of the existence of this letter? How do we know it is genuinely from 1871?
Rule #1: "Given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. People will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool."
Rule #2: "The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. It sounds a paradox, but kindness and good intentions can be an insidious path to destruction. Sometimes doing what seems right is wrong, and can cause harm. The only counter to it is knowledge, wisdom, forethought, and understanding the First Rule."
Rule #3: "Passion rules reason. Letting your emotions control your reason may cause trouble for yourself and those around you."
Rule #4: "There is magic in sincere forgiveness, the magic to heal. In forgiveness you grant, but more so, in forgiveness you receive. Forgiving and being forgiven are powerful elements of healing for the soul. Forgiving others grants by the giving of forgiveness but more so one receives self healing by the necessity of letting go of bitterness through forgiveness of others."
Rule #5: "Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie. People will lie to deceive you from what they truly mean to do. Watching the actions they take will prove their true intentions."
Rule #6: "Let logic be your only sovereign. Unlike reason, faith and feelings provide no boundary to limit any delusion, any whim. They are a virulent poison, giving the numbing illusion of moral sanction to every depravity ever hatched. Faith and feelings are the darkness to reason’s light. Reason is the very substance of truth itself. The glory that is life is wholly embraced through reason."
Rule #7: "Life is the future, not the past. The past can teach us, through experience, how to accomplish things in the future, comfort us with cherished memories, and provide the foundation of what has already been accomplished. But only the future holds life. To live in the past is to embrace what is dead. To live life to its fullest, each day must be created anew. As rational, thinking beings we must use our intellect, not a blind devotion to what has come before, to make rational choices."
Rule #8: "Deserve victory. Be justified in your convictions. Be completely committed. Earn what you want and need rather than waiting for others to give you what you desire."
Rule #9: "A contradiction cannot exist in reality. Not in part, nor in whole. To believe in a contradiction is to abdicate your belief in the existence of the world around you and the nature of the things in it, to instead embrace any random impulse that strikes your fancy - to imagine something is real simply because you wish it were. A thing is what it is, it is itself. There can be no contradictions. In reality, contradictions cannot exist. To believe in them you must abandon the most important thing you possess: your rational mind."
Rule #10: "Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. People who for whatever reason don't want to see the truth can be acutely hostile to it and shrill in their denunciation of it. They frequently turn their venomous antagonism on whoever dares to point out that truth ... To those seeking the truth, it's a matter of simple, rational, self interest to always keep reality in view. Truth is rooted in reality, after all, not the imagination."
Rule #11: "The rule unwritten. It is the secret of all life. It is the essence of life itself. You are a creator and master of your own reality. You ultimately make your own rules."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 123871
7/29/2006 1:07 PM
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So what do you all think about the quotes from the Morals and Dogma?

::hard to debunk eh::

: p
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 123754


i'm not sure who this is addressed to...but i find the quotes fascinating and had never seen them before...


"The first Masonic Legislator whose memory is preserved to us by history, was Buddha,..(Morals and Dogma, p.277)


this fits a subjective experience i have had


pike's letter was said to have come from a "vision" makes me want to say that something much larger than the illuminati is the "prime mover" here.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 123754
7/29/2006 1:12 PM
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No to the letter question.


About his quotes, I think it tells an awful lot about him, they're "his words". Read the entire book if you can grasp it. I've read it twice. Well detailed once you learn his mindset.


Just because it was written in a book does not make it non-fiction or truth. Without knowing the person Pike truly was nor his true intentions, we can never know what motivated his writing nor how much of it is deception vs. truth.

That being said it is interesting.

Where can we find proof of the existence of this letter? How do we know it is genuinely from 1871?
 Quoting: Wizard's First Rule
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 123754
7/29/2006 1:14 PM
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The point behind buddhism is to escape badkarma and not reincarnate.

"The first Masonic Legislator whose memory is preserved to us by history, was Buddha,..(Morals and Dogma, p.277)


this fits a subjective experience i have had
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 123871
Jeremiah175
User ID: 50857
7/29/2006 1:16 PM
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Link to July 2003 Revisited thread

[link to godlikeproductions.com]
www.thebreachblog.blogspot.com
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 123870 (OP)
7/29/2006 1:24 PM
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I don't know if this letter exists or not. But the detailed description of how WWIII is to play out and how accurate it is in relation to the current world situation is what strikes me hardest. It's far too meticulous to simply be a coincidence. There is definitely something to these excerpts, and especially the one on WWIII.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74191
7/29/2006 1:29 PM
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Yep, its a small piece of the blueprint.
Dont worry tho, this needs 2 be done.
As awfull as it sounds, we as humanity has grown especially after the 2nd WW.
This also needs 2 be done. I hate 2 say it cus i hate seeing all these innocents die there, but we have 2 look at the bigger picture. Unfortunatly sacrifices will have 2 be made.
Wizard's First Rule
User ID: 119147
7/29/2006 1:37 PM
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If they're "his words," then we are only seeing his words, his interpretations. Where is the truth in that? As I said, we do not know him. Is he a man of deceit or truth or both?

Everything is a matter of perspective. In a room without windows, you see what you think is daylight when I open the door, and you assume it's morning. Take it away, you think it's night. As it goes, it was just a light in the hallway outside of the room. You still don't know whether it is night or day. You can't believe me. You don't know for sure if I am telling the truth. You can only know the truth if you were outside of the building where you could see the open sky.

The truth is fluid, the truth is subjective. The truth is sometimes what you believe it to be, and other times what you decide it to be.

The same applies to Pike. When you read his writings, you are in that room without the windows. You are seeing only his subjective truth that he has decided to tell you. Has he turned on the light in the hallway or has he opened the door at the end of the hallway to let the sunlight? How would you know?
Rule #1: "Given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. People will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool."
Rule #2: "The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. It sounds a paradox, but kindness and good intentions can be an insidious path to destruction. Sometimes doing what seems right is wrong, and can cause harm. The only counter to it is knowledge, wisdom, forethought, and understanding the First Rule."
Rule #3: "Passion rules reason. Letting your emotions control your reason may cause trouble for yourself and those around you."
Rule #4: "There is magic in sincere forgiveness, the magic to heal. In forgiveness you grant, but more so, in forgiveness you receive. Forgiving and being forgiven are powerful elements of healing for the soul. Forgiving others grants by the giving of forgiveness but more so one receives self healing by the necessity of letting go of bitterness through forgiveness of others."
Rule #5: "Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie. People will lie to deceive you from what they truly mean to do. Watching the actions they take will prove their true intentions."
Rule #6: "Let logic be your only sovereign. Unlike reason, faith and feelings provide no boundary to limit any delusion, any whim. They are a virulent poison, giving the numbing illusion of moral sanction to every depravity ever hatched. Faith and feelings are the darkness to reason’s light. Reason is the very substance of truth itself. The glory that is life is wholly embraced through reason."
Rule #7: "Life is the future, not the past. The past can teach us, through experience, how to accomplish things in the future, comfort us with cherished memories, and provide the foundation of what has already been accomplished. But only the future holds life. To live in the past is to embrace what is dead. To live life to its fullest, each day must be created anew. As rational, thinking beings we must use our intellect, not a blind devotion to what has come before, to make rational choices."
Rule #8: "Deserve victory. Be justified in your convictions. Be completely committed. Earn what you want and need rather than waiting for others to give you what you desire."
Rule #9: "A contradiction cannot exist in reality. Not in part, nor in whole. To believe in a contradiction is to abdicate your belief in the existence of the world around you and the nature of the things in it, to instead embrace any random impulse that strikes your fancy - to imagine something is real simply because you wish it were. A thing is what it is, it is itself. There can be no contradictions. In reality, contradictions cannot exist. To believe in them you must abandon the most important thing you possess: your rational mind."
Rule #10: "Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. People who for whatever reason don't want to see the truth can be acutely hostile to it and shrill in their denunciation of it. They frequently turn their venomous antagonism on whoever dares to point out that truth ... To those seeking the truth, it's a matter of simple, rational, self interest to always keep reality in view. Truth is rooted in reality, after all, not the imagination."
Rule #11: "The rule unwritten. It is the secret of all life. It is the essence of life itself. You are a creator and master of your own reality. You ultimately make your own rules."
W. W. Raupp
User ID: 75589
7/29/2006 1:39 PM
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What a joke. Albert Pike is nothing but a worthless KKK clown and that's it. or are you freaks saying the KKK is an organisation dedicated to the survival of America?

Look for a job.
To shape the world is to become immortal
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 123870 (OP)
7/29/2006 1:47 PM
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What a joke. Albert Pike is nothing but a worthless KKK clown and that's it. or are you freaks saying the KKK is an organisation dedicated to the survival of America?

Look for a job.

-------------------------

I don't know how you came to that conclusion, but I assure you, no one here thinks the KKK is dedicated to the survival of America. Their very existence is detrimental to this nation's well-being, so quite the opposite, in fact.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 75589
7/29/2006 2:23 PM
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I don't know how you came to that conclusion, but I assure you, no one here thinks the KKK is dedicated to the survival of America. Their very existence is detrimental to this nation's well-being, so quite the opposite, in fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 123870


I was saying that because many people here find Hitler quite the savior.
GOOD JOB
User ID: 119524
7/29/2006 2:27 PM
Re: Does anyone remember what Albert Pike said about WWIII?Quote

What a joke. Albert Pike is nothing but a worthless KKK clown and that's it. or are you freaks saying the KKK is an organisation dedicated to the survival of America?

Look for a job.
 Quoting: W. W. Raupp



Think outside the box, he created the KKK for the Masterplan wich is mentioned above.

You have to give him more credit than you are doing.

And BTW this plan is for the best of mankind.

BUt I ain't going to explain it again here,

Just try to open your mind and maybe you will be able to think outside your box one day.
........................

-GOOD JOB
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 123870 (OP)
7/29/2006 2:29 PM
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It is believed that the KKK and the Illuminati have ties with each other. In fact, many clandestine groups like the KKK are involved with the Illuminati. The Rosicrucians, The Knights Templar, Ordi Templi Orientis etc. are all believed to be tied to the Illuminati in some way. When addressing one of these mysterious organizations, you may as well be addressing them all.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74191
7/29/2006 2:43 PM
Re: Does anyone remember what Albert Pike said about WWIII?Quote

What a joke. Albert Pike is nothing but a worthless KKK clown and that's it. or are you freaks saying the KKK is an organisation dedicated to the survival of America?

Look for a job.
 Quoting: W. W. Raupp


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DOOMAFATCHI
User ID: 123831
7/29/2006 3:04 PM
Re: Does anyone remember what Albert Pike said about WWIII?Quote

I did not know that Jacob was born to a non jewish mother! So what do you call the offspring? How confusing!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 123905
7/29/2006 3:09 PM
Re: Does anyone remember what Albert Pike said about WWIII?Quote

Read the book and you wouldn't be in parable land. : p

If they're "his words," then we are only seeing his words, his interpretations. Where is the truth in that? As I said, we do not know him. Is he a man of deceit or truth or both?

Everything is a matter of perspective. In a room without windows, you see what you think is daylight when I open the door, and you assume it's morning. Take it away, you think it's night. As it goes, it was just a light in the hallway outside of the room. You still don't know whether it is night or day. You can't believe me. You don't know for sure if I am telling the truth. You can only know the truth if you were outside of the building where you could see the open sky.

The truth is fluid, the truth is subjective. The truth is sometimes what you believe it to be, and other times what you decide it to be.

The same applies to Pike. When you read his writings, you are in that room without the windows. You are seeing only his subjective truth that he has decided to tell you. Has he turned on the light in the hallway or has he opened the door at the end of the hallway to let the sunlight? How would you know?
 Quoting: Wizard's First Rule
necramericanomicon
User ID: 120943
7/29/2006 3:11 PM
Re: Does anyone remember what Albert Pike said about WWIII?Quote

wasn't albert pike the original captain of the starship enterprise in the original series' first episode

he was in a bodycast wheelchair that beeped and blinked a light for yes or no

vulcan sci-fience officer spock took him back to the big-brained aliens' planet so they could alter his brainwaves and make him think that he wasn't an old cripple

series creator gene roddenberry was a 33rd degree mason

enterprise, first a 20 story floating death platform in the u s navy--although it was a colonial war schooner or whatever..., in the future a flying 20 story death platform in starfleet
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