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Breaking!!Cleveland Video Out!! Shit is going to hit the fan!!!! Kid gets shot immediately

 
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To the people who think the cops are at fault, go fucking die , you are the problem with society. You people are pure stupid fucking idiots or robots. The fucking nagger had a fucking gun and was brandishing it. Real or not, it doesn't matter, get that thru your thick brainless heads.

Fucking idiots
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I disagree. I think Wilson was justified but this one doesn't look good for the cops involved. These officers were not attacked by the kid. Some cooler heads and common sense should have prevailed in this one.

FWIW, ABC News is ginning this one up. I guess their meager ratings bump with George Bimbo Eruption Stephanopoulus interviewing Wilson wasn't good enough.
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It's like the cops know their time is drawing near for full out conflict with large groupings of regular people. In all these videos the cops appear to be scared of their own shadows. What is going on to make them feel this way?
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Well, it could be the fact that EVERY SINGLE DAY at least one cop is shot dead in the US ...

when these men and women kiss their wives and kids goodbye they never know if that will be the last time they ever see them ...
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Bs less than 30 a year are killed by a perp.
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It's like the cops know their time is drawing near for full out conflict with large groupings of regular people. In all these videos the cops appear to be scared of their own shadows. What is going on to make them feel this way?
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Well, it could be the fact that EVERY SINGLE DAY at least one cop is shot dead in the US ...

when these men and women kiss their wives and kids goodbye they never know if that will be the last time they ever see them ...
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Bs less than 30 a year are killed by a perp.
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You guys in England still have Trident?

For those that don't know England has so much black gun crime they had to come up with the Trident detachment to deal with it.
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It's like the cops know their time is drawing near for full out conflict with large groupings of regular people. In all these videos the cops appear to be scared of their own shadows. What is going on to make them feel this way?
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Well, it could be the fact that EVERY SINGLE DAY at least one cop is shot dead in the US ...

when these men and women kiss their wives and kids goodbye they never know if that will be the last time they ever see them ...
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Bs less than 30 a year are killed by a perp.
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You guys in England still have Trident?

For those that don't know England has so much black gun crime they had to come up with the Trident detachment to deal with it.
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Yep, I think Trident is still going. Over here only the criminals have guns, not even our normal coppers do! If a cop gets shot in U.K. it's a VERY big deal - it's usually the cop that's "un-armed" - not the other way round!!!!
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When we had our "London riots", the bloke was shot by specialist "armed response" - not your average copper. Armed response has to called for when the cops are more than certain the criminal actually has a gun.
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bad parenting.
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Maybe I've watched too many tv shows but cops always pull always away and hide behind their cars and talk on the speaker thing, have a standoff?? This seems pretty cold. This kid didn't know any better, he obviously hasn't had any good influence in his life.
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This is not good!!


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I dont know what to think when I see that. My god. The cop did his job here as the kid reached for his waistband, but shit the kid probably had no fucking clue it would mean he would get blasted by doing so. I personally cant blame the cop for this one as the kid reached for his waist. Poor kid just wasn't thinking. Cant blame the cop here. At least we have footage. That is the least we can say for wilson in ferguson. Two different scenarios as wilson could have demanded he put his hands up immediately. The more I think about it the more I think even brown had what was coming even though I hate cops as a whole. Lol. You dont pick a fight with a cop unless you plan on killing him because he gon killz yo azz I swearz.
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Except for the fact that they were told even before going in that it wasn't a real gun.
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What I saw on the news was that the 911 operator did not pass that information onto the police officers that responded.
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The cop drove in there BALLS to the WALL. I think proper protocol would be to pull in some distance away, take cover and ask perp to drop their weapon. They will certainly be cleared since they are the law.

If someone rolled up to your house pointing a gun at you and you shot them, more than likely you would be charged with murder being a civilian.
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Probably pulled in that way because they were told he was pointing the gun at people. The story I saw said that no one passed on the information about it being a BB gun to the cops responding. Also, the story said that the orange piece that was supposed to be on the end of the gun to indicate it wasn't real was removed.
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Anyone who waves a gun (or replica) around in public should expect to be shot on sight. It's a pretty simple rule.
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the kid was 12.

TWELVE YEARS OLD.


his brain isn't fully developed to even understand wtf he is doing...you're a POS
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bad parenting.
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the new^ bullshit excuse for police appologists
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Anyone who waves a gun (or replica) around in public should expect to be shot on sight. It's a pretty simple rule.
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hesright
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Very sad; his little sister was apparently on scene and can be heard screaming, "You killed my brother!!"

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That is just wrong. Wrong approch by car, wrong reaction by cop. Hell the kid was approaching the car as they drove up in the grass for god’s sake!

Cops are out of control IMO.
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Good riddance. Fucking thugs.
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Serve and Protect. Who? Themselves? Are they only thinking of protecting their own lives? They weren't protecting all he people around the kid....I didn't see one other person.

Michael Brown, warranted. This...an actual child....no way. Disgusting. Dang, if all the protestors had just held out for this case they'd have a lot more people on their side.
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No, there will be riots on this one for sure. I would be furious as a parent. We can't always be there to protect and deter our children. There would be hell to pay if this happened to my child. I am sort of surprised I am not hearing more about this one. I think a couple years ago a there was a big 13 year old who lost his life too this way, except that child was playing around a friend home. The neighbor that reported that kid should have just gone to the neighbors house to handle any unsafe situations instead of calling the cops. The cops should always be a last resort.

Children in the suburbs and in the country carry BB guns all the time and sometimes in town. There is rarely a problem as it is an expected right of passage that teenage children like to run around with BB guns a shoot at stuff.

Also a child be yelled at quickly does not give the child much time to process what is actually happening. A 12 year old is still developing there response skills. Its called wait and response timing. Teachers know this and are use to this and waiting to see how the child follows through.
Also do we even know if this child was a special education student? That would mean even more of a wait timing to response to instruction.

Police unfortunately are trained to think of every one as being the same in response and comparison to themselves. Unless a person is identified before hand as being " disabled or special" and whole host of things can go wrong quickly. In fact the disabled dare not be left by themselves due to the fact that the police in the community may be a problem. Anyone not like themselves, the police, are deviant and the most lethal response is often consider first over what is best for the citizen whom they are suppose to serve. They simply aren't trained to think about causes in situations, rather they are trained to respond to scenarios that will ensure they go home at night. Cops are not trained think of themselves anymore as Superman or GI Joe who put their life, safety , and well being on the line to protect society.

Sadly, they are trained in ganister thinking in that they are going home at the end of my shift, believing, my fellow officer has my back, I am better then the average citizen, and I will get away my mistakes/misdeeds because I am part of something that is powerful and I am special. Children also need more training in how to deal with police officers, because soften the children do not get to see good modeling through media. Over all though children across our nation need a healthy dose of learning good manners again. The Anti Bully campaign is OK. But, this needs a lot of extention though into social skills training and learning to be more powerful by being classy,; not trashy.
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Even with that kind of training, how does a man live with himself after shooting and killing a 12 year old with a toy?
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The cop drove in there BALLS to the WALL. I think proper protocol would be to pull in some distance away, take cover and ask perp to drop their weapon. They will certainly be cleared since they are the law.

If someone rolled up to your house pointing a gun at you and you shot them, more than likely you would be charged with murder being a civilian.
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Probably pulled in that way because they were told he was pointing the gun at people. The story I saw said that no one passed on the information about it being a BB gun to the cops responding. Also, the story said that the orange piece that was supposed to be on the end of the gun to indicate it wasn't real was removed.
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Why is he pointing it at people and acting like he is a real shooter, poor bored kid.
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When a cop says "drop the gun!" don't reach for your waistband ...

The young thug wannabe was STUPID ...

Another Darwin Award candidate ...
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Exactly. Protesting just shows how stupid you are. I support ol brainless wonder that takes on the cops. Them cops is bad.
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The cop drove in there BALLS to the WALL. I think proper protocol would be to pull in some distance away, take cover and ask perp to drop their weapon. They will certainly be cleared since they are the law.

If someone rolled up to your house pointing a gun at you and you shot them, more than likely you would be charged with murder being a civilian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62323649


Probably pulled in that way because they were told he was pointing the gun at people. The story I saw said that no one passed on the information about it being a BB gun to the cops responding. Also, the story said that the orange piece that was supposed to be on the end of the gun to indicate it wasn't real was removed.
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There was nobody else at that park in the entire video.
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The cop drove in there BALLS to the WALL. I think proper protocol would be to pull in some distance away, take cover and ask perp to drop their weapon. They will certainly be cleared since they are the law.

If someone rolled up to your house pointing a gun at you and you shot them, more than likely you would be charged with murder being a civilian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62323649


Probably pulled in that way because they were told he was pointing the gun at people. The story I saw said that no one passed on the information about it being a BB gun to the cops responding. Also, the story said that the orange piece that was supposed to be on the end of the gun to indicate it wasn't real was removed.
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There was nobody else at that park in the entire video.
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Ya there was. It was blurred out to protect identity. The kid walked down the sidewalk with a blurred figure waiving the gun in his/her face. Few minutes later, cops show up, all business thinking a lunatic was out on the street with a gun threatening people. Thats the story in a nutshell.
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Anyone who waves a gun (or replica) around in public should expect to be shot on sight. It's a pretty simple rule.
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50 years ago you could hold a toy gun around the president of the united states and no one cared

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50 years ago, you didn't have 12 year-olds shooting people.
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This is not good!!


[link to www.cleveland.com]
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I dont know what to think when I see that. My god. The cop did his job here as the kid reached for his waistband, but shit the kid probably had no fucking clue it would mean he would get blasted by doing so. I personally cant blame the cop for this one as the kid reached for his waist. Poor kid just wasn't thinking. Cant blame the cop here. At least we have footage. That is the least we can say for wilson in ferguson. Two different scenarios as wilson could have demanded he put his hands up immediately. The more I think about it the more I think even brown had what was coming even though I hate cops as a whole. Lol. You dont pick a fight with a cop unless you plan on killing him because he gon killz yo azz I swearz.
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Except for the fact that they were told even before going in that it wasn't a real gun.
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Where's it say it' wasn't a real gun? Last I read the caller said it -might- be fake, has the 911 call be released ?
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Even with that kind of training, how does a man live with himself after shooting and killing a 12 year old with a toy?
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I'm sure it is devastating.

Why wasn't this kid in school? Is 3 not school time?

Why is he hanging out here? Why isn't he home doing his school work or something?
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It's like the cops know their time is drawing near for full out conflict with large groupings of regular people. In all these videos the cops appear to be scared of their own shadows. What is going on to make them feel this way?
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Well, it could be the fact that EVERY SINGLE DAY at least one cop is shot dead in the US ...

when these men and women kiss their wives and kids goodbye they never know if that will be the last time they ever see them ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64281194


Bs less than 30 a year are killed by a perp.
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You guys in England still have Trident?

For those that don't know England has so much black gun crime they had to come up with the Trident detachment to deal with it.
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Oh really? Care to cite some stats? Tell us how many people were shot last year Einstein...
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This is not good!!


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I dont know what to think when I see that. My god. The cop did his job here as the kid reached for his waistband, but shit the kid probably had no fucking clue it would mean he would get blasted by doing so. I personally cant blame the cop for this one as the kid reached for his waist. Poor kid just wasn't thinking. Cant blame the cop here. At least we have footage. That is the least we can say for wilson in ferguson. Two different scenarios as wilson could have demanded he put his hands up immediately. The more I think about it the more I think even brown had what was coming even though I hate cops as a whole. Lol. You dont pick a fight with a cop unless you plan on killing him because he gon killz yo azz I swearz.
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Except for the fact that they were told even before going in that it wasn't a real gun.
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Where's it say it' wasn't a real gun? Last I read the caller said it -might- be fake, has the 911 call be released ?
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Yes, the 911 call was released. Not sure if it was posted anywhere - but it was played, in full, during the press conference before they showed the video.
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In my city we have 12 year olds shooting real guns, so why wouldn't the cops expect it to be real?

One day a 13 y/o shot a 15 y/o that pulled a gun on him. Now the 14 y/o friends told me themselves that the 13 year old didn't intend to actually shoot the gun. But a wise old black woman who overheard us said, you don't aim a gun unless you intend to shoot.

The reality of the situation is that young black boys do have guns and they do shoot them. Meanwhile the white boys are busy climbing trees and playing in the woods. This is the difference. It is not race discrimination, it is reality.
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Me again... And another thing.... We see the same black KIDS coming in shot multiple times! Can you imagine being a child and getting shot 2-3 times? This is the situation they place themselves in. Basically playing cops and robbers with real guns. That's all those gangs do you know. They play childhood games with grown up toys.
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This is not good!!


[link to www.cleveland.com]
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Amazing, he never seems to leave the frame, how coincidental!

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