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For those who may not have anyone on Thanksgiving-Do you think the Day brings the satisfaction to individuals it is portrayed to bring?

 
Lord Challen

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OP - I call pre-made holidays "cookie cutter holidays".
There is no need to do what everyone else is doing - that is delusional.
Make every day amazing, and not just goofy holidays, which are not important at all really.
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Holidays are like rituals. Well, I guess they are actual rituals.

Everyday can be cool and amazing.

But take for example the naming of a child. It can be boring like, "Hey Bob." Or you can gather family around, talk about the child some, get a vibe, talk to some friends, and then ceremoniously name the child. There is only one naming in a person's life. . . unless you get into some kinky cults.

But you cannot make everyday like that day. Like an anniversary, it comes just once a year. Nothing wrong with the other days, but they are not THAT day.

Having a day to remember a holy or special day is totally awesome. Like a birthday. It is special, we remember that day as a holy day. July 4th. All special days worthy of remembrance for what happened on that day. If you have no days worth remembering for their specific spirit. . . . . that is just sad.

Rituals and ceremonies add spiritual energy and essence to any events.
 Quoting: Lord Challen


I appreciate your deep thoughts on this and other threads

That being said, one can make any special day an event rather than just an occasion, meaning, that, if I had a wonderful memory with friends on some random day, THAT day becomes an anniversary of that moment with those friends, and is not contingent on a day the rest of the world sets aside as special
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Well, yes, that is true. There is Festivas.

Even so, there is also nothing wrong with the whole world putting aside a day for a special thought.

I have heard the contempt of many that think "Valentine Day" is bullshit because everyday should be special. But the observable truth is. . . . most people don't. If people cannot make a globally recognized day special, then chances are, they couldn't do it on their own.

Just bring flowers, or having a cookout, or inviting friends over for dinner, isn't the same.

I would love see someone up and decide, "I am going call all of my friends over and remember Adam and Eve being cast out of the Garden of Eden."

I've never been invited to a special ritual or ceremony that wasn't pre-established by the culture in which we live. And I have been to some very special rituals.
Truth is the reaction to the presence of consciousness.
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OP - I call pre-made holidays "cookie cutter holidays".
There is no need to do what everyone else is doing - that is delusional.
Make every day amazing, and not just goofy holidays, which are not important at all really.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65564154


Holidays are like rituals. Well, I guess they are actual rituals.

Everyday can be cool and amazing.

But take for example the naming of a child. It can be boring like, "Hey Bob." Or you can gather family around, talk about the child some, get a vibe, talk to some friends, and then ceremoniously name the child. There is only one naming in a person's life. . . unless you get into some kinky cults.

But you cannot make everyday like that day. Like an anniversary, it comes just once a year. Nothing wrong with the other days, but they are not THAT day.

Having a day to remember a holy or special day is totally awesome. Like a birthday. It is special, we remember that day as a holy day. July 4th. All special days worthy of remembrance for what happened on that day. If you have no days worth remembering for their specific spirit. . . . . that is just sad.

Rituals and ceremonies add spiritual energy and essence to any events.
 Quoting: Lord Challen


I appreciate your deep thoughts on this and other threads

That being said, one can make any special day an event rather than just an occasion, meaning, that, if I had a wonderful memory with friends on some random day, THAT day becomes an anniversary of that moment with those friends, and is not contingent on a day the rest of the world sets aside as special
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Well, yes, that is true. There is Festivas.

Even so, there is also nothing wrong with the whole world putting aside a day for a special thought.

I have heard the contempt of many that think "Valentine Day" is bullshit because everyday should be special. But the observable truth is. . . . most people don't. If people cannot make a globally recognized day special, then chances are, they couldn't do it on their own.

Just bring flowers, or having a cookout, or inviting friends over for dinner, isn't the same.

I would love see someone up and decide, "I am going call all of my friends over and remember Adam and Eve being cast out of the Garden of Eden."

I've never been invited to a special ritual or ceremony that wasn't pre-established by the culture in which we live. And I have been to some very special rituals.
[/quoteWell, therein lies the difference between


I would call that just plain old lack of imagination then, because, in reality, if the whole world stopped recogizing one day as special, would everyone lie down and die?






Something to think about I suppose

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Holidays are like rituals. Well, I guess they are actual rituals.

Everyday can be cool and amazing.

But take for example the naming of a child. It can be boring like, "Hey Bob." Or you can gather family around, talk about the child some, get a vibe, talk to some friends, and then ceremoniously name the child. There is only one naming in a person's life. . . unless you get into some kinky cults.

But you cannot make everyday like that day. Like an anniversary, it comes just once a year. Nothing wrong with the other days, but they are not THAT day.

Having a day to remember a holy or special day is totally awesome. Like a birthday. It is special, we remember that day as a holy day. July 4th. All special days worthy of remembrance for what happened on that day. If you have no days worth remembering for their specific spirit. . . . . that is just sad.

Rituals and ceremonies add spiritual energy and essence to any events.
 Quoting: Lord Challen


I appreciate your deep thoughts on this and other threads

That being said, one can make any special day an event rather than just an occasion, meaning, that, if I had a wonderful memory with friends on some random day, THAT day becomes an anniversary of that moment with those friends, and is not contingent on a day the rest of the world sets aside as special
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Well, yes, that is true. There is Festivas.

Even so, there is also nothing wrong with the whole world putting aside a day for a special thought.

I have heard the contempt of many that think "Valentine Day" is bullshit because everyday should be special. But the observable truth is. . . . most people don't. If people cannot make a globally recognized day special, then chances are, they couldn't do it on their own.

Just bring flowers, or having a cookout, or inviting friends over for dinner, isn't the same.

I would love see someone up and decide, "I am going call all of my friends over and remember Adam and Eve being cast out of the Garden of Eden."

I've never been invited to a special ritual or ceremony that wasn't pre-established by the culture in which we live. And I have been to some very special rituals.
[/quoteWell, therein lies the difference between


I would call that just plain old lack of imagination then, because, in reality, if the whole world stopped recogizing one day as special, would everyone lie down and die?






Something to think about I suppose
 Quoting: Lord Challen



That post got messed up and merged with yours, my thought was that, if a day is not set aside by the entire world to be special, then, no one would think of it on their own, displays a lack of imagination, do you not think?
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"Even if my own father and mother abandon me, Jehovah himself will take me in'- Psalms 27:10
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden



OP: It's wise not to let the tyrannical image of a Norman Rockwell propaganda poster depicting the 'perfect' sort of holiday have undue influence over your own day, if you can help it, imo.

I've spent Thanksgivings with family, alone, and amongst friends. Family ones were a neither great nor terrible; alone ones were not tragic; yet my favorites - by far - were the ones spent casually amongst good friends.

Ideally, friends are sort of our chosen vs. birth family… and, ideally, we can be comfortable in our own skins and company to have a quiet day alone as well - if that's how things work out on the day.

I've never worried what to safely discuss with friends or whilst alone… and I've never been forced to endure some longstanding family drama in that company, either.

Much more genuine fun, much less pressure to get everything perfect, and much easier on the digestion :)
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Well, considering I do not personally celebrate Thanksgiving, I do not have any expectations for that particular day, but many I talk to DO- and they end up more depressed than if they had not celebrated it in the first place, that was the reason for this thread, for those who face disallusionment and loneliness that is forced on them because everyone seems to have someone on special days, and it is simply not true, there are alot of people who have no one= look at the suicide rate during the Holidays, but on a lighter note, I agree with you, time spent with good friends is of greatest value and less stress, for as the Bible says{



"There exist companions disposed to break one another to pieces, but there exists a friend sticking closer than a brother.'- Proverbs 18:24
Lord Challen

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Re: For those who may not have anyone on Thanksgiving-Do you think the Day brings the satisfaction to individuals it is portrayed to bring?

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I appreciate your deep thoughts on this and other threads

That being said, one can make any special day an event rather than just an occasion, meaning, that, if I had a wonderful memory with friends on some random day, THAT day becomes an anniversary of that moment with those friends, and is not contingent on a day the rest of the world sets aside as special
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Well, yes, that is true. There is Festivas.

Even so, there is also nothing wrong with the whole world putting aside a day for a special thought.

I have heard the contempt of many that think "Valentine Day" is bullshit because everyday should be special. But the observable truth is. . . . most people don't. If people cannot make a globally recognized day special, then chances are, they couldn't do it on their own.

Just bring flowers, or having a cookout, or inviting friends over for dinner, isn't the same.

I would love see someone up and decide, "I am going call all of my friends over and remember Adam and Eve being cast out of the Garden of Eden."

I've never been invited to a special ritual or ceremony that wasn't pre-established by the culture in which we live. And I have been to some very special rituals.
[/quoteWell, therein lies the difference between


I would call that just plain old lack of imagination then, because, in reality, if the whole world stopped recogizing one day as special, would everyone lie down and die?






Something to think about I suppose
 Quoting: Lord Challen



That post got messed up and merged with yours, my thought was that, if a day is not set aside by the entire world to be special, then, no one would think of it on their own, displays a lack of imagination, do you not think?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden

Not sure if I follow you. I suppose that there is no day that the entire world recognises.

A person can have special day. Perhaps it's a memory of a dead friend. Perhaps you won a victory. So you grab some beer and celibate. But even so, even personal celebrations are often done within the custom. But in this discussion personal celebrations don't count because is exactly a personal. It celibate a more global idea. There are many special days like thanksgiving around the world. But when a holiday involves other people there must be agreement on the time expectations. In fact, any planned celebration involving two or more must have some of per-established definition.
Truth is the reaction to the presence of consciousness.





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