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How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...

 
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
Techno-industrial metal?

It's kool and awful
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
I don't but your logic is flawed because the "he loves you/free will" argument is compelling.
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
exactly ! ... he (supposedly) created a bunch of "sinners" ... what kind of looser god is that ?


the god of this world is not our Creator, he has a completely different agenda, and is such a complete failure, I really don't see how anyone could worship that looser

now I will go watch your vid

man that really suxs ... ugh - don't you know that satanist are "god-worshipers" .... duh ... god created Satan ... and you fell for the "dualism" trap hook line and sinker

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So you actually think God is Satan since you are somehow sick enough to desire to be a slave?!

I mean, God allows you to live, make your own choices, but the downside for God is that He has to watch you destroy yourselves.

Perhaps you need to learn more, or accept your slavery?!
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
God is in complete control.

It is just that you do not understand his plan
and his purposes.



Romans 8:28


28 And we know that God causes all things to work together
for good to those who love God, to those who are called
according to His purpose.
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
God is in complete control.

It is just that you do not understand his plan
and his purposes.



Romans 8:28


28 And we know that God causes all things to work together
for good to those who love God, to those who are called
according to His purpose.
 Quoting: Swerve


god is in complete control of YOU.

BTW, try sometime making a point in your own words without using "scripture" as a crutch.
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God keeps the balance, but humans fuck it up severly over and over again.

Its like God puts training wheels on our bike, we do good for a short amount of time, as soon as the training wheels come off, we have a war or create some catastrophe.
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How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
exactly ! ... he (supposedly) created a bunch of "sinners" ... what kind of looser god is that ?


the god of this world is not our Creator, he has a completely different agenda, and is such a complete failure, I really don't see how anyone could worship that looser

now I will go watch your vid

man that really suxs ... ugh - don't you know that satanist are "god-worshipers" .... duh ... god created Satan ... and you fell for the "dualism" trap hook line and sinker
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Haha. That music isnt "satanic" by any means. Trans- Humanistic...if anything.
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God is a reflected in all creation as it was made in his image. That makes us all manifestations. That makes God a gay pedophilic dog fucking serial killing muslim.
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God is a reflected in all creation as it was made in his image. That makes us all manifestations. That makes God a gay pedophilic dog fucking serial killing muslim.
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To add, we can't think, say, or act in anyway that isn't part of God's make-up.
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you're simply projecting your own sense of helplessness on God.. don't waste your time hf
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you're simply projecting your own sense of helplessness on God.. don't waste your time hf
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Everything came from God. Have you read the bible?
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He doesn't seek to control us. It's called free will. The choice is every person's to make. Kind of like forcing someone to love you would mean nothing. People are supposed to decide for themselves if they have faith enough in God to choose to follow the path he has laid or not. It takes faith because no matter what anyone here says, it cannot be proven beyond a doubt. Hence, faith.
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
you're simply projecting your own sense of helplessness on God.. don't waste your time hf
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Everything came from God. Have you read the bible?
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sure, i believe that it does. but still it does not define God.

i've read the bible in part..
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i think i owe Bible a capital too..
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God is in absolute control over everything except free will which is His gift to us.
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
God gave us free will to choose our path..... good vs. evil

Creation is either following Satan or God

Sheep/Goats
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
the bible says he divide his own creation for a purpose..
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
God is in complete control.

It is just that you do not understand his plan
and his purposes.



Romans 8:28


28 And we know that God causes all things to work together
for good to those who love God, to those who are called
according to His purpose.
 Quoting: Swerve


god is in complete control of YOU.

BTW, try sometime making a point in your own words without using "scripture" as a crutch.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65556386


I'd bank on the fact that you quote numerous sources all day long. In fact, this "using scripture is a crutch" is something that you've read and heard on numerous occasions.

Therefore, this is called hypocrisy. Therefore, take your own advice.
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
God is in complete control.

It is just that you do not understand his plan
and his purposes.



Romans 8:28


28 And we know that God causes all things to work together
for good to those who love God, to those who are called
according to His purpose.
 Quoting: Swerve


god is in complete control of YOU.

BTW, try sometime making a point in your own words without using "scripture" as a crutch.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65556386


NOTICE - Jesus only replied to satan using Scripture.
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
Humanity could all unite as one on the New Jerusalem calendar and build their utopia but with free will it takes time. God has to have patience as humanity learns.
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This right here is proof God IS a woman!
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
because he gives everyone free will to do as they want.


...but if you do what he doesn't like then he'll send you to burn for eternity.
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 Quoting: Vroude


He doesn't seek to control us. It's called free will. The choice is every person's to make. Kind of like forcing someone to love you would mean nothing. People are supposed to decide for themselves if they have faith enough in God to choose to follow the path he has laid or not. It takes faith because no matter what anyone here says, it cannot be proven beyond a doubt. Hence, faith.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63397178



no. in gods` original plan there was no free will.
Adam and Eve had no free will, they were told what to do and they had to obey.

also, if there is free-will, why does god make all these ridiculous laws?

also, if there is free-will, why will the non-believers be eternally punished for non-belief?
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Like say God sent me to suggest to humanity to unite as one on the New Jerusalem Calendar for world peace in the New Jerusalem Kingdom of God and Jesus Christ on Earth and humanity didn't want to listen so they do the opposite and create division and build up hell on Earth.
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
God is everything, we are the physical manifestation of God, an emergent property.

To say God has no control of the "creation" is akin to saying you have no control over the cells in your body..

There are things you can do to those cells by what you put in to or do with your body, but you do not directly control what they are doing in there.

One cell is not you, but all of your cells together are, just like you alone are not God, but all of creation is.
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
God is not in the control bussiness.

Islam wants to control.

God gave us free will and lets us choose the path we want right or wrong.

We do so knowing the consequences as they have never been hidden from us. Our choice to make.

If you can't understand that then ar have a long way to go and grow.
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
God gave us free will to choose our path..... good vs. evil

Creation is either following Satan or God

Sheep/Goats
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That is not FREE will now is it?

If you choose the wrong one he sends you to hell.



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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
People are afraid that there's nothing after death, and that their ego will die when their body dies.

Therefore: Heaven, and God.

There's no logic in fear. Zero, zilch, nadda.
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Re: How can you believe in a god that cant even control his own creation...
God gave us free will to choose our path..... good vs. evil

Creation is either following Satan or God

Sheep/Goats
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65772799


That is not FREE will now is it?

If you choose the wrong one he sends you to hell.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65135613


Why do people believe this, where does it say that?
I'm no thumper, but I believe it says somewhere in the bible that death is like sleep without thought or consciousness, and the only way to wake from that sleep is to do as your told and remain under control in life, then you get a wake up call to eternity with God..
If you don't pay attention to the rules, and exercise your free will to do as you please, then you never get that call and sleep the endless sleep of nothingness for eternity..





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