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Xenaphobic User ID: 12737063 United States 11/30/2014 05:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this simply Maslow's hierarchy of needs being acted out, or are we separating dimensions (slowly at that)? Is this change an all or nothing proposition, either we all go or no one goes? Also, which is true...chance or destiny? Finally, what are your bonafides? thank you Last Edited by Xenaphobic on 11/30/2014 05:43 AM Venus of Willendorf. SI covergirl 25,000 B.C. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63643441 United States 11/30/2014 05:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17693691 I'm trying to keep your attention, I am more than happy to break it down to the crucible of understanding with you, but I imagine not even your contradictions are prepared to do so. or.. you have a few years before tickets sell out. Take your pick. Well I happen to realize there is not enough time for a ticket in this life, that does not mean that I do not know how to discern a true teacher, so far your insults point to an inflated EGO.... Well then stay and help me defeat the ego. And there is time, you may just find things work out in the end. As far as Ego is concerned, I have no way of really proving otherwise. At the least my Ego still wants to help? ;) Help to do what exactly? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 17693691 Canada 11/30/2014 06:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question, why do some people live a life of conscious choice, buying local, going vegan, etc.. and others don't give a second thought of torturing and killing other vulnerable species or even other humans...yet both types live in proximity of each other? Quoting: Xenaphobic Is this simply Maslow's hierarchy of needs being acted out, or are we separating dimensions (slowly at that)? Is this change an all or nothing proposition, either we all go or no one goes? Also, which is true...chance or destiny? Finally, what are your bonafides? thank you It is important to remember we are in a consumption state. Every person with a choice is exposed to a attainable and average lifestyle that is not as "intelligent" or " ecological" as we can imagine now. We are farther in thought than motion, this is to be expected. Choice is a relatively new thing for us modern humans. We are still living in the construct of industry. Which is fueled by monetary gain, corruption, personal gain etc etc. All fueled by a better lifestyle making certain compromises. The choices we make are typically not that far out of reach; that is why they say baby steps. Make reachable goals. People live comfortably by what is attainable. A healthy, conscious, lifestyle in terms of diet and pure consumption, is simply not realistic nor affordable for the average person in the modern world. Nor does the modern world/environment promote that type of lifestyle as far as long term Gains ( loss of instant gratitude/satisfaction). The machine runs better on short term gain long term loss(for consumer). Which sometimes boils down to a simple choice of market/media image vs true value The simplicity of choice got convoluted a while back. It isn't a priority of the race right now. We are too preoccupied progressing by any means necessarily. So we will suffer accordingly and adapt once the world makes us. This above also has created a less then perfect understanding in terms of education, on the importance of food and diet directly. We are too distracted to care. Resulting in a semi-conscious choice to just shut the stomach up and keep going. Not considering the dramatic implications. #Whohastimetoeatrightright? This phase will pass once we deteriorate further. Maslow's hierarchy is too simple to describe completely what causes people to make choices, how they live their lives, or explain our phenomena we are living. Mostly people don't seem to care about self-actualization what so ever for the most part. Or have no idea of the possibility. (for now) Perhaps because we are no longer worried about surviving. In short: Resources , Environment , attainability are what cause people to make choices in consumerism currently. Throw in all the distractions you can think of a voila! No one seems to care. ----- As far as all or nothing..we can touch on that later. Chance is just the laws of our reality unfolding at a micro level we can't compute in real time, basically. Chance is real. If you run into traffic you have a chance of being hit. That chance changes if you do some calculating. How many cars are coming, where they are coming from, are they intersecting with your path etc etc. Destiny is the situations we are put in. Your destiny is unique to you in the way that no one is in your literal space in time. Destiny would get me to the computer. And many other things that are seemingly unavoidable in ones life. Like who your parents are or where you were born, that would seemingly be Destiny. Chance had it I would talk to some of you given the nature of our lives,environment, our journey, and the considerable ease of communication. And I made a choice to reach out and help those of us who although have many shining gifts, may lack the ability to translate the signals, senses, and connections going on around them. For example I can do many things that involve the functions of a human, but I am hardly creative. I couldn't draw an elephant if you gave me a Stencil. The world just doesn't need artists right now or I'd be needing help ;) I write all this merely to help others make the connections. Everything is up for interpretation and discussion. It requires much care and adequacy to accurately speak of such things devoutly. This is not that. I'm sure I've emptied the stands by now |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 17693691 Canada 11/30/2014 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17693691 or.. you have a few years before tickets sell out. Take your pick. Well I happen to realize there is not enough time for a ticket in this life, that does not mean that I do not know how to discern a true teacher, so far your insults point to an inflated EGO.... Well then stay and help me defeat the ego. And there is time, you may just find things work out in the end. As far as Ego is concerned, I have no way of really proving otherwise. At the least my Ego still wants to help? ;) Help to do what exactly? Everyone is a little different. |
Xenaphobic User ID: 12737063 United States 11/30/2014 07:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you speak of having been in training, and want to share, but what good does it do those of us who live day to day, as you say, with only the little choices at our disposal? What is the point of training in such a scenario? I don't want to discourage you. If you have something meaningful to share, please do so. But the picture you have painted so far seems quite bleak. What is the point exactly? I am interested in this topic. I am also experiencing insomnia tonight for some reason. Didn't mean to pick on you LOL. Have been suffering an existential crisis of late... Last Edited by Xenaphobic on 11/30/2014 07:05 AM Venus of Willendorf. SI covergirl 25,000 B.C. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65467816 United States 11/30/2014 07:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have some answers for a few of you. Probably not the answer you want to hear, but it is the answers none the less. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17693691 It has been some time hasn't it? I have enjoyed the spark, have you? I have a short time to be with you. My hope is that you, we, for some truly 23rd reason, are also here with time to spare. We are busy climbing after all, Hi! Sounds like a bait thread |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 17693691 Canada 11/30/2014 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So basically we are living in a reactionary state of existence? I.E.If one raised a caveman in a luxury penthouse, he would adapt accordingly, grow up and go to Harvard. Conversely, if one were to raise the man who is the Dalai Lama in say, the projects of a large city, he would just as likely join a gang and sell drugs? If we are not evolving as a species, then maybe I will just take my ball and go home. It's kind of a depressing thought, if true. Quoting: Xenaphobic So you speak of having been in training, and want to share, but what good does it do those of us who live day to day, as you say, with only the little choices at our disposal? What is the point of training in such a scenario? I don't want to discourage you. If you have something meaningful to share, please do so. But the picture you have painted so far seems quite bleak. What is the point exactly? I am interested in this topic. I am also experiencing insomnia tonight for some reason. Didn't mean to pick on you LOL. Have been suffering an existential crisis of late... Being inspirational while explaining our confusing quantum situation isn't always conducive...Let me try; You wanted to know; the way our 1st world societies are functioning shouldn't depress you. It is truly marvelous. I digress.. It wouldn't be fact, but it would be a high chance. Unless the soul had its own disposition or one of the thousand other factors played a part. People listen to their hearts, for lack of a better term, and achieve unexpected things. Using a caveman or Dali Lama are not great examples, because their particular life an experiences were subjective. We are finishing the age of visions. Special individuals saw a vision of something never seen before, and chased in with all their life-blood. That is what makes legends so amazing! The unbelievable feat against impossible odds. That is love my friend! We are entering the age of choice now. The Great divide. Perhaps if the Dali lama was born now he would be laid back and happy with the progress so far. That is to say you believe in a soul that transcends time. For arguments sake. But impossible. It is difficult to understand and apply, so try to be open and not see this as a negative. You have to learn the rules before you play. Learn the board before you move. It is invaluable to understand your situation. We are evolving, but not steadily upward, or forward. We bounce around clinging to the cliff as we climb and drag and fall over and over. The end isn't so important in this discussion. That bleak feeling is the dark responsibility. We wanted to grow no matter the cost, so it will become harder and harder for individuals to free themselves. I can not say what the point for you is. This world has a miraculous way of making many points. Ultimately I believe in a grand point, but that isn't really important or for me to say at this time. we can go over "the point" more if you like. I sleep less than most. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 17693691 Canada 11/30/2014 07:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have some answers for a few of you. Probably not the answer you want to hear, but it is the answers none the less. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17693691 It has been some time hasn't it? I have enjoyed the spark, have you? I have a short time to be with you. My hope is that you, we, for some truly 23rd reason, are also here with time to spare. We are busy climbing after all, Hi! Sounds like a bait thread I was going to come up with a clever fish analogy about seeing the surface then ultimately being let back into the water revealing a grander perspective... but it didn't really seem to fit. I Prefer the Forrest. |
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Xenaphobic User ID: 12737063 United States 11/30/2014 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps you should give us a indication of the nature of training that you just finished. There are many kinds; basic training at boot camp, training to be a monk at a monastery, graduation from college, or even getting a black belt at martial arts.. That could lessen the confusion, and perhaps add to (or reduce) the populace following your thread. Venus of Willendorf. SI covergirl 25,000 B.C. |
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Tampa Heather User ID: 64674015 United States 11/30/2014 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you want to know? I didn't come here to impress. I came to help the ones who would gain. Your type cracks me up...do you really think you're helping someone, anyone, with this Cracker Jack type advice? Seems more like a circle jerk for those with a god complex...which is okay if that was your intentions...but I hope you understand you're really not helping anyone...the ones who halfway understand the concepts you're stating really don't need your help because they've already integrated their teachings with their experience to produce wisdom... What doesn't kill me only makes me stronger... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8525048 United States 11/30/2014 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have some answers for a few of you. Probably not the answer you want to hear, but it is the answers none the less. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17693691 It has been some time hasn't it? I have enjoyed the spark, have you? I have a short time to be with you. My hope is that you, we, for some truly 23rd reason, are also here with time to spare. We are busy climbing after all, Hi! Why did you pick that number? Birthday:) |
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