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Angels that fell with Lucifer...

 
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Space should b renamed to Angels
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Wha?? We are flying into Angels? lmao makes no sense...

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charlie

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And I don't want the world to see me...cause I don't think they'd understand. When everything's made to be broken...I just want you to know who I am...

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You have been a very good lab rat!
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Hey that's not my name...

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What if we are reincarnations of the angles that followed Lucifer. What I'd we keep reincarnating until we get it right and can earn our graces back with god.
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Hey Tom yep I have thought about that...wondered for a long time....earned our place out of this prison for whatever we might have done so very wrong in the past...

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charlie

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And I don't want the world to see me...cause I don't think they'd understand. When everything's made to be broken...I just want you to know who I am...

music

hf
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You have been a very good lab rat!
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why, thank you boris!
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The angels that fell according to Enoch Shemyaza...were a bit earlier than Lucifer...they revolted from his rule...the ones in the bible (the ancestors of the British and the Lebanese).
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 65815001


Oh I thought Lucifer led the whole thing. Well that's what glp threads are for learning. Not a bible person so thought it was a good question to ask.

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


Lucifer hasn't technically fallen yet. That comes at the end of earth time, when he and 1/3 of all the angels (stars) are "swept out of heaven and fall to earth.

As of right now, the "Accuser" of humankind still has access to God's throne. Revelations makes this pretty clear.

And, yes, the other poster was absolutely correct...

The 200 which fell to take human wives happened well before the great flood. Although the fall was led by another angel, it is to Azazel that all resulting sin is ascribed, per God, by way of Enoch. Azazel is the leader of the Abyss, where he and his cohorts are currently bound, along with the disembodied spirits of many of their hybrid offspring, which we know as demons. (Eternal spirits born into mortal bodies, with no way of salvation after physical death.)

In Jubilees, we see that God allows Al-Satan to keep 10% of the demon spirits, per their pre-arranged agreement, to test humanity. Hence, we see why God and the rest of the angels look forward to the day when the Accuser is finally tossed out of Heaven, thanks to the sacrifice of Christ.
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some divine beings noticed how attractive human women were, so they took wives for themselves from a selection that pleased them.

Think that really happened GLP?

hf
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And that demons reproduced with humans? No
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The angels that fell according to Enoch Shemyaza...were a bit earlier than Lucifer...they revolted from his rule...the ones in the bible (the ancestors of the British and the Lebanese).
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 65815001


Oh I thought Lucifer led the whole thing. Well that's what glp threads are for learning. Not a bible person so thought it was a good question to ask.

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


Lucifer hasn't technically fallen yet. That comes at the end of earth time, when he and 1/3 of all the angels (stars) are "swept out of heaven and fall to earth.

As of right now, the "Accuser" of humankind still has access to God's throne. Revelations makes this pretty clear.

And, yes, the other poster was absolutely correct...

The 200 which fell to take human wives happened well before the great flood. Although the fall was led by another angel, it is to Azazel that all resulting sin is ascribed, per God, by way of Enoch. Azazel is the leader of the Abyss, where he and his cohorts are currently bound, along with the disembodied spirits of many of their hybrid offspring, which we know as demons. (Eternal spirits born into mortal bodies, with no way of salvation after physical death.)

In Jubilees, we see that God allows Al-Satan to keep 10% of the demon spirits, per their pre-arranged agreement, to test humanity. Hence, we see why God and the rest of the angels look forward to the day when the Accuser is finally tossed out of Heaven, thanks to the sacrifice of Christ.
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gasp
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Re: Angels that fell with Lucifer...
some divine beings noticed how attractive human women were, so they took wives for themselves from a selection that pleased them.

Think that really happened GLP?

hf
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And that demons reproduced with humans? No
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Some call them angels...some call them aliens...yet still some call them demons...it's a question AC...

hf
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--------- was a good person before people started pissing in her ears.
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Re: Angels that fell with Lucifer...
some divine beings noticed how attractive human women were, so they took wives for themselves from a selection that pleased them.

Think that really happened GLP?

hf
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They are not divine beings,


The romantic idea of divine beings being seduced by the beauty of women is false.


In truth they are like a madness or virus, behaving as such.
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Re: Angels that fell with Lucifer...
The angels that fell according to Enoch Shemyaza...were a bit earlier than Lucifer...they revolted from his rule...the ones in the bible (the ancestors of the British and the Lebanese).
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 65815001


Oh I thought Lucifer led the whole thing. Well that's what glp threads are for learning. Not a bible person so thought it was a good question to ask.

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


Lucifer hasn't technically fallen yet. That comes at the end of earth time, when he and 1/3 of all the angels (stars) are "swept out of heaven and fall to earth.

As of right now, the "Accuser" of humankind still has access to God's throne. Revelations makes this pretty clear.

And, yes, the other poster was absolutely correct...

The 200 which fell to take human wives happened well before the great flood. Although the fall was led by another angel, it is to Azazel that all resulting sin is ascribed, per God, by way of Enoch. Azazel is the leader of the Abyss, where he and his cohorts are currently bound, along with the disembodied spirits of many of their hybrid offspring, which we know as demons. (Eternal spirits born into mortal bodies, with no way of salvation after physical death.)

In Jubilees, we see that God allows Al-Satan to keep 10% of the demon spirits, per their pre-arranged agreement, to test humanity. Hence, we see why God and the rest of the angels look forward to the day when the Accuser is finally tossed out of Heaven, thanks to the sacrifice of Christ.
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You sure?


and
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Re: Angels that fell with Lucifer...
some divine beings noticed how attractive human women were, so they took wives for themselves from a selection that pleased them.

Think that really happened GLP?

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


They are not divine beings,


The romantic idea of divine beings being seduced by the beauty of women is false.


In truth they are like a madness or virus, behaving as such.
 Quoting: M1.618


The ego drives them, not the spark or heart
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Re: Angels that fell with Lucifer...
some divine beings noticed how attractive human women were, so they took wives for themselves from a selection that pleased them.

Think that really happened GLP?

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


They are not divine beings,


The romantic idea of divine beings being seduced by the beauty of women is false.


In truth they are like a madness or virus, behaving as such.
 Quoting: M1.618


sky gods...

chuckle

indy

hf
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Re: Angels that fell with Lucifer...
The angels that fell according to Enoch Shemyaza...were a bit earlier than Lucifer...they revolted from his rule...the ones in the bible (the ancestors of the British and the Lebanese).
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 65815001


Oh I thought Lucifer led the whole thing. Well that's what glp threads are for learning. Not a bible person so thought it was a good question to ask.

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


Lucifer hasn't technically fallen yet. That comes at the end of earth time, when he and 1/3 of all the angels (stars) are "swept out of heaven and fall to earth.

As of right now, the "Accuser" of humankind still has access to God's throne. Revelations makes this pretty clear.

And, yes, the other poster was absolutely correct...

The 200 which fell to take human wives happened well before the great flood. Although the fall was led by another angel, it is to Azazel that all resulting sin is ascribed, per God, by way of Enoch. Azazel is the leader of the Abyss, where he and his cohorts are currently bound, along with the disembodied spirits of many of their hybrid offspring, which we know as demons. (Eternal spirits born into mortal bodies, with no way of salvation after physical death.)

In Jubilees, we see that God allows Al-Satan to keep 10% of the demon spirits, per their pre-arranged agreement, to test humanity. Hence, we see why God and the rest of the angels look forward to the day when the Accuser is finally tossed out of Heaven, thanks to the sacrifice of Christ.
 Quoting: Hmmm 44514350


You sure?


and

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Signs...I remember watching those...

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As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be in the days of the Son of Man
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www.newadvent.org/cathen/09703a.htm
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Stigmata? I wish you would have posted your view in a sentence or two :)

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Re: Angels that fell with Lucifer...
some divine beings noticed how attractive human women were, so they took wives for themselves from a selection that pleased them.

Think that really happened GLP?

hf
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I do.
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Re: Angels that fell with Lucifer...
some divine beings noticed how attractive human women were, so they took wives for themselves from a selection that pleased them.

Think that really happened GLP?

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


They are not divine beings,


The romantic idea of divine beings being seduced by the beauty of women is false.


In truth they are like a madness or virus, behaving as such.
 Quoting: M1.618


sky gods...

chuckle

indy

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


In the world of the knowledge of good & evil.

Outside of it.., like zombies.
wmMmw
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[link to commons.wikimedia.org]

There is the imagery, stored in the collective conscious, in which you seek. I was prompted to follow up on this same topic since Cosmic posted the poem Leda and the Swan.

The mythology of the consciousness of rape was told, or evoked, as creation myth. Following up on Yeats work I discovered his poem was a take on the Greek Myth that he was comparing to the Christian mythology of the Annunciation.

All the components are there. The Angel or form of a Swan in the Greek myth. And, "The theme resembles the Immaculate Conception of Mary by the Holy Spirit (in the form of a dove) in the Catholic religion."

Look at the art. All the components are there. And then, off to the side of the engraving is the egg. And then the hatched twins of Love and War. Rape was written into the species consciousness through the bastardization of creation myth.
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Re: Angels that fell with Lucifer...
some divine beings noticed how attractive human women were, so they took wives for themselves from a selection that pleased them.

Think that really happened GLP?

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


They are not divine beings,


The romantic idea of divine beings being seduced by the beauty of women is false.


In truth they are like a madness or virus, behaving as such.
 Quoting: M1.618


sky gods...

chuckle

indy

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


In the world of the knowledge of good & evil.

Outside of it.., like zombies.
 Quoting: M1.618


you calling me a zombie?

huh
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[link to commons.wikimedia.org]

There is the imagery, stored in the collective conscious, in which you seek. I was prompted to follow up on this same topic since Cosmic posted the poem Leda and the Swan.

The mythology of the consciousness of rape was told, or evoked, as creation myth. Following up on Yeats work I discovered his poem was a take on the Greek Myth that he was comparing to the Christian mythology of the Annunciation.

All the components are there. The Angel or form of a Swan in the Greek myth. And, "The theme resembles the Immaculate Conception of Mary by the Holy Spirit (in the form of a dove) in the Catholic religion."

Look at the art. All the components are there. And then, off to the side of the engraving is the egg. And then the hatched twins of Love and War. Rape was written into the species consciousness through the bastardization of creation myth.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64287455


Powerful picture indeed Muse...awesome post :)

hf
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Re: Angels that fell with Lucifer...
some divine beings noticed how attractive human women were, so they took wives for themselves from a selection that pleased them.

Think that really happened GLP?

hf
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First of all there is no such thing as a 'Lucifer' [there is however such thing as Satan] as that is a christian hoax due to a mistranslation. Secondly there are no 'fallen' angels as that too is another unscriptural doctrine to come out of christendom. Last of all to answer your question, no. Angels do not possess the reproductive organs to mate with humans.
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Re: Angels that fell with Lucifer...
some divine beings noticed how attractive human women were, so they took wives for themselves from a selection that pleased them.

Think that really happened GLP?

hf
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what do you think angels? Think there could some truth to it?
neither here nor there.

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Re: Angels that fell with Lucifer...
The angels that fell according to Enoch Shemyaza...were a bit earlier than Lucifer...they revolted from his rule...the ones in the bible (the ancestors of the British and the Lebanese).
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 65815001


Oh I thought Lucifer led the whole thing. Well that's what glp threads are for learning. Not a bible person so thought it was a good question to ask.

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


Lucifer hasn't technically fallen yet. That comes at the end of earth time, when he and 1/3 of all the angels (stars) are "swept out of heaven and fall to earth.

As of right now, the "Accuser" of humankind still has access to God's throne. Revelations makes this pretty clear.

And, yes, the other poster was absolutely correct...

The 200 which fell to take human wives happened well before the great flood. Although the fall was led by another angel, it is to Azazel that all resulting sin is ascribed, per God, by way of Enoch. Azazel is the leader of the Abyss, where he and his cohorts are currently bound, along with the disembodied spirits of many of their hybrid offspring, which we know as demons. (Eternal spirits born into mortal bodies, with no way of salvation after physical death.)

In Jubilees, we see that God allows Al-Satan to keep 10% of the demon spirits, per their pre-arranged agreement, to test humanity. Hence, we see why God and the rest of the angels look forward to the day when the Accuser is finally tossed out of Heaven, thanks to the sacrifice of Christ.
 Quoting: Hmmm 44514350


gasp
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


and those demons were released on 911 in New Babylon. 2 become 1

ps:

for the inquisitor ^
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Re: Angels that fell with Lucifer...
some divine beings noticed how attractive human women were, so they took wives for themselves from a selection that pleased them.

Think that really happened GLP?

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


First of all there is no such thing as a 'Lucifer' [there is however such thing as Satan] as that is a christian hoax due to a mistranslation. Secondly there are no 'fallen' angels as that too is another unscriptural doctrine to come out of christendom. Last of all to answer your question, no. Angels do not possess the reproductive organs to mate with humans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65823339


First of all excuse me and I am sorry I found your sentence funny and I don't know much about these things but Lucifer sounded right to me. I have read people who say that Lucifer is one person and Satan is another so which is it?

Second of all what is an angel exactly? Please inform me...is it a demon to you? Is it like the bible describes them? Could they be aliens? What is your view...

hf
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Re: Angels that fell with Lucifer...
some divine beings noticed how attractive human women were, so they took wives for themselves from a selection that pleased them.

Think that really happened GLP?

hf
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what do you think angels? Think there could some truth to it?
 Quoting: Lucifer99


Yeah I do...but I think when thinking about Angels you have to consider all angles...

chuckle

hf
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They are not divine beings,


The romantic idea of divine beings being seduced by the beauty of women is false.


In truth they are like a madness or virus, behaving as such.
 Quoting: M1.618


sky gods...

chuckle

indy

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


In the world of the knowledge of good & evil.

Outside of it.., like zombies.
 Quoting: M1.618


you calling me a zombie?

huh
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


No you silly)
the fallen order outside of Adams brood.
wmMmw
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Oh I thought Lucifer led the whole thing. Well that's what glp threads are for learning. Not a bible person so thought it was a good question to ask.

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


Lucifer hasn't technically fallen yet. That comes at the end of earth time, when he and 1/3 of all the angels (stars) are "swept out of heaven and fall to earth.

As of right now, the "Accuser" of humankind still has access to God's throne. Revelations makes this pretty clear.

And, yes, the other poster was absolutely correct...

The 200 which fell to take human wives happened well before the great flood. Although the fall was led by another angel, it is to Azazel that all resulting sin is ascribed, per God, by way of Enoch. Azazel is the leader of the Abyss, where he and his cohorts are currently bound, along with the disembodied spirits of many of their hybrid offspring, which we know as demons. (Eternal spirits born into mortal bodies, with no way of salvation after physical death.)

In Jubilees, we see that God allows Al-Satan to keep 10% of the demon spirits, per their pre-arranged agreement, to test humanity. Hence, we see why God and the rest of the angels look forward to the day when the Accuser is finally tossed out of Heaven, thanks to the sacrifice of Christ.
 Quoting: Hmmm 44514350


gasp
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


and those demons were released on 911 in New Babylon. 2 become 1

ps:

for the inquisitor ^
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65823095


Um yeah two become one...

Kind of creepy there AC demons released and what not. Were there certain ones released?

hf
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sky gods...

chuckle

indy

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


In the world of the knowledge of good & evil.

Outside of it.., like zombies.
 Quoting: M1.618


you calling me a zombie?

huh
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere™


No you silly)
the fallen order outside of Adams brood.
 Quoting: M1.618


Oh I did not understand...sorry about that M1

hf





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