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OIL MARKET: BREAKING: CME To Allow Listing Of Negative Oil Options Effective April 22!!!p836

 
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Hope Luis' wife is okay. He is usually here when prices are plummeting!
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Oil down
Metals down
Stocks down
Bonds down

What are they buying????
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Guns, ammo, freeze dried food, and secure retreats in Montana...
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Oil down
Metals down
Stocks down
Bonds down

What are they buying????
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Guns, ammo, freeze dried food, and secure retreats in Montana...
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BAM!!

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I hope it goes into the low teens or even lower....and shut DOWN all the big shale players....then you will see OIL go to highs never seen before!!!!! COME on go down baby! (thats what she said)
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come on man

the patch is already hurting

you don't want to kill it
 Quoting: Ice


why wait for a slow death ...lets get it over with. that way we can get it back sooner. The damage is done already, budgets have been slashed and banks will not be lending money for oil projects this year because they fear the market... so what are we waiting for? Bring on a complete crash so all the people cheering for low oil can see just how stupid they really are!!!!

like i said... people will be begging for $100 dollar OIL soon...SOON!
 Quoting: OilMan


You don't get it. Prices are not going to rise anymore, as the expensive oil to extract that we are getting out of the ground is not producing sufficient economic activity to pay for it afterwards. Central branks will try to manipulate this fact and print money until we can use it as toilet-paper, but the reality is that we are heading into the abyss.

The whole economy is bankrupted, and this oil-shock (which is ultimately dismantling the scheme created to fund it) will cause another heavy shock to the economy, so we could pay less and less for it.

What would happen if oil rises to 200 USD per barrel? I'll tell you. Demand destruction will be so intense that in 2 months you will have oil at 40 USD per barrel again. And most of the oil that is out there, is getting increasingly harder and expensive to extract-> Drillers will bankrupt first, the rest of the economic system will default after them...
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Sorry my friend it is you that doesn't get it chuckle

Once the smaller players have been crushed by the low oil prices they will get knocked out of the market, handing over the rest of the market share to all the big boys. These remaining large companies will collude to create a cartel and artificially raise the price they want to sell at since they will be the only ones supplying the market.

The economy may be bad but it's still hobbling along sufficiently to keep going. And while this is the case the consumer and companies will still pay over the odds for a necessity good, such as oil, if they are forced to. And in these economic times for the whole world to cut back big on oil demand would mean instant economic collapse and riots on the street. You have to bear in mind all the different ways in which we use oil. Commuting to work and transport of food for the world's massive population perhaps being the most important.

Oil being a price inelastic good will still be demanded very much even at $100-$120. Probably won't go much higher than that. All those profits will being going into the pockets of large companies too, and we all know what happen when the rich get richer, no not trickle down effect, but massive hoarding(on the whole).

So basically we can expect further income inequality, bigger divide between rich and poor. The economy will limp along but not crash, they'll pull out all the stops to make sure of that. Further jobs will continue to be created in the US economy, but it'll be 95% part time or temp jobs for a very low wage. This way of life will persist and Americans and many others across the world will suffer increasing economic hardship.... until we rise up and tell them no more, we won't want to be your slaves anymore and dispose of this rotten and corrupt system we have in place..... either that or there'll be ww 3 around the corner.
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Geeezzzzzzzzzzzzz what's happening???
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Geeezzzzzzzzzzzzz what's happening???
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Crude dropped again, broke the $43 barrier. I think $43.56 is the new low record for this year.
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Geeezzzzzzzzzzzzz what's happening???
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Crude dropped again, broke the $43 barrier. I think $43.56 is the new low record for this year.
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Though they are fighting it off and it is climbing again...
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I live in the oil capital of California and I have been recently laid off. I'm leaving this state for good.
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I live in the oil capital of California and I have been recently laid off. I'm leaving this state for good.
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Bakersfield's a pretty shitty place as-is. Can only imagine how much worse it'll get with a longstanding oil downturn. All that unemployment and lack of services from the city/county...on top of the huge uptick in illegal immigration over the last couple of years. It's gonna be a real dump...
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all pretty much APPL: Apple
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I live in the oil capital of California and I have been recently laid off. I'm leaving this state for good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16806928


Bakersfield's a pretty shitty place as-is. Can only imagine how much worse it'll get with a longstanding oil downturn. All that unemployment and lack of services from the city/county...on top of the huge uptick in illegal immigration over the last couple of years. It's gonna be a real dump...
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yep - Bakersfield is a dump - get out - this will be nasty for a place like Bakersfield
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come on man

the patch is already hurting

you don't want to kill it
 Quoting: Ice


why wait for a slow death ...lets get it over with. that way we can get it back sooner. The damage is done already, budgets have been slashed and banks will not be lending money for oil projects this year because they fear the market... so what are we waiting for? Bring on a complete crash so all the people cheering for low oil can see just how stupid they really are!!!!

like i said... people will be begging for $100 dollar OIL soon...SOON!
 Quoting: OilMan


You don't get it. Prices are not going to rise anymore, as the expensive oil to extract that we are getting out of the ground is not producing sufficient economic activity to pay for it afterwards. Central branks will try to manipulate this fact and print money until we can use it as toilet-paper, but the reality is that we are heading into the abyss.

The whole economy is bankrupted, and this oil-shock (which is ultimately dismantling the scheme created to fund it) will cause another heavy shock to the economy, so we could pay less and less for it.

What would happen if oil rises to 200 USD per barrel? I'll tell you. Demand destruction will be so intense that in 2 months you will have oil at 40 USD per barrel again. And most of the oil that is out there, is getting increasingly harder and expensive to extract-> Drillers will bankrupt first, the rest of the economic system will default after them...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56810420


Sorry my friend it is you that doesn't get it chuckle

Once the smaller players have been crushed by the low oil prices they will get knocked out of the market, handing over the rest of the market share to all the big boys. These remaining large companies will collude to create a cartel and artificially raise the price they want to sell at since they will be the only ones supplying the market.

The economy may be bad but it's still hobbling along sufficiently to keep going. And while this is the case the consumer and companies will still pay over the odds for a necessity good, such as oil, if they are forced to. And in these economic times for the whole world to cut back big on oil demand would mean instant economic collapse and riots on the street. You have to bear in mind all the different ways in which we use oil. Commuting to work and transport of food for the world's massive population perhaps being the most important.

Oil being a price inelastic good will still be demanded very much even at $100-$120. Probably won't go much higher than that. All those profits will being going into the pockets of large companies too, and we all know what happen when the rich get richer, no not trickle down effect, but massive hoarding(on the whole).

So basically we can expect further income inequality, bigger divide between rich and poor. The economy will limp along but not crash, they'll pull out all the stops to make sure of that. Further jobs will continue to be created in the US economy, but it'll be 95% part time or temp jobs for a very low wage. This way of life will persist and Americans and many others across the world will suffer increasing economic hardship.... until we rise up and tell them no more, we won't want to be your slaves anymore and dispose of this rotten and corrupt system we have in place..... either that or there'll be ww 3 around the corner.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67496251


so you see it coming back ?

what is shaping up is not just a crash

it will be a complete reset - massive - nothing like this has ever happened - call me crazy but it is headed to the cliff and nothing will be left

they TPTB want a complete new system and they have had it planned for years - I know wowowowowo but it is what it is
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43.99 AGAIN!!!
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hovering at 44.09
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What if it gets below 40?
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What if it gets below 40?
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What if it gets below 40?
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well i guess it could accelerate SHTF...but really, it's arealdy too late...

Smaller companies that are dependent on oil at $80+ or maybe even $60 worse case, are going to go bust...this is going to be the blow up of the junk bond market which will be about 6x that of the sub prime fiasco...the MSM is really touting the 'consumer spending' angle because short term it's not bad for the everyday citizen, but what's gonna happen in 10-12 months or so when these companies are bankrupt? Doom, and it could come sooner once the market realizes this...and that doesn't even include oil derivatives, much less, INTEREST RATE derivative contracts which are teetering due to currency wars, but that's a whole different story...we wont get through the year without a major SHTF moment...i've never been more sure.

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What if it gets below 40?
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well i guess it could accelerate SHTF...but really, it's arealdy too late...

Smaller companies that are dependent on oil at $80+ or maybe even $60 worse case, are going to go bust...this is going to be the blow up of the junk bond market which will be about 6x that of the sub prime fiasco...the MSM is really touting the 'consumer spending' angle because short term it's not bad for the everyday citizen, but what's gonna happen in 10-12 months or so when these companies are bankrupt? Doom, and it could come sooner once the market realizes this...and that doesn't even include oil derivatives, much less, INTEREST RATE derivative contracts which are teetering due to currency wars, but that's a whole different story...we wont get through the year without a major SHTF moment...i've never been more sure.
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yep - its already written for those that care to read

most don't
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What if it gets below 40?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23422653


well i guess it could accelerate SHTF...but really, it's arealdy too late...

Smaller companies that are dependent on oil at $80+ or maybe even $60 worse case, are going to go bust...this is going to be the blow up of the junk bond market which will be about 6x that of the sub prime fiasco...the MSM is really touting the 'consumer spending' angle because short term it's not bad for the everyday citizen, but what's gonna happen in 10-12 months or so when these companies are bankrupt? Doom, and it could come sooner once the market realizes this...and that doesn't even include oil derivatives, much less, INTEREST RATE derivative contracts which are teetering due to currency wars, but that's a whole different story...we wont get through the year without a major SHTF moment...i've never been more sure.
 Quoting: No More Lies


yep - its already written for those that care to read

most don't
 Quoting: Ice

yep... I truly believe this fall is when things go haywire, based on financials and also blood moons/shmita year....Stay safe brother in these trying times.
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WTF: YELLEN TOLD DEMOCRATS NO RATE INCREASE `IMMEDIATELY': SCHUMER
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ty Luis, another fine day =) ty
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ty Luis, another fine day =) ty
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You bet! And i don't see oil decoupling... so maby new lows soon...
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ty Luis, another fine day =) ty
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You bet! And i don't see oil decoupling... so maby new lows soon...
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Day's Range: 43.58 - 44.96
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U.S. stocks end on a strong note as oil rebounds
Published: Jan 29, 2015 4:06 p.m. ET [link to www.marketwatch.com] wtf
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Senate passes bill to approve building Keystone XL pipeline
Published: Jan 29, 2015 4:10 p.m. ET [link to www.marketwatch.com]
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44.41...
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Senate passes bill to approve building Keystone XL pipeline
Published: Jan 29, 2015 4:10 p.m. ET [link to www.marketwatch.com]
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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 4 min Há 4 minutos
Senate ok's #KeystoneXL bill, 62-36.
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44.41...
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44.36...





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