It's official: Saudis are flooding markets with oil according to mainstream news | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65951531 United States 12/11/2014 07:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I suscept this will be used as a excuse for the death of the dollar and spare there necks from the noose.As for Russia ,this will hurt but as the dollar deflats the value of the dollar will allow putin to buy more gold.He who has the most gold controls the world. CHECKMATE Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43523478 Maybe it is a good thing that I hung onto all that foreign currency in the safe. Who knows maybe soon very soon it will be worth more then the US dollar. Wouldn't that be ironic. Dinars and Dongs? lol That'll never RV |
Wookiee666 User ID: 62421844 United States 12/11/2014 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can still recall when it was 50 cents a gallon! Back in the day. I worked at a Texaco gas station in the 70's. Gas was 32 cents. My first ever customer complained that it was too high! Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac . If the number 666 is considered evil. then technically, 25.8069758 is the root of all evil. |
Ostria1 User ID: 65926756 Greece 12/11/2014 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dubai stocks fell 7.4% on Thursday, the worst one-day drop for that market since 2009 as oil price declines hammer the outlook for the country Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com] Ostria |
-VonamoR- User ID: 65391761 United States 12/11/2014 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It may not be due to people driving less. In fact, people drive longer distances just for work (happens when jobs become hard to get). Look at the other products made from oil. A drop in sales of these items could also cause a lack in demand. [link to www.ranken-energy.com] |
The Old Timer User ID: 64134821 United States 12/11/2014 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this the official story? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27568205 Do more Americans care that gas is cheaper, as opposed to the Shale and Oil industry being strangled? And this ^^^ is precisely why they're doing it, it's the equivalent of countries like China dumping their gooes on the US market to kill American industry. AND... you can bet the sandbox oil producers are still making money even at these levels. I recall reading....when oil was 10.00 per barrel.....and that was the late 90's......the Saudi's were very happy and stated they could live with 10.00 per barrel for a century.....so what do you suppose is really going on??? Lets go Brandon!! What doesn't kill us...makes us more interesting Either you live for something worth dying for....or you rot away and die on the installment plan quote: Mr Bill when I post something....I will remove any post I find disrespectful or offensive..... |
I HAVE QUESTIONS User ID: 65136091 United States 12/11/2014 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | $2.46 at the pilot near the house Last Edited by I HAVE QUESTIONS on 12/11/2014 08:28 AM illumination "peanut butter jelly time!! peanut butter jelly time!! peanut butter jelly time!!" |
-VonamoR- User ID: 65391761 United States 12/11/2014 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this the official story? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27568205 Do more Americans care that gas is cheaper, as opposed to the Shale and Oil industry being strangled? And this ^^^ is precisely why they're doing it, it's the equivalent of countries like China dumping their gooes on the US market to kill American industry. AND... you can bet the sandbox oil producers are still making money even at these levels. I recall reading....when oil was 10.00 per barrel.....and that was the late 90's......the Saudi's were very happy and stated they could live with 10.00 per barrel for a century.....so what do you suppose is really going on??? Maybe the military is stashing fuel. A gallon put into reserves for every gallon purchased. Or something close to that. If oil production is going to crash someday, the military will need a supply of fuel. The military with the greatest amount of fuel stored will have the greatest chance of retaining power through the transition of energy. |
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bitofreason User ID: 46598154 United States 12/11/2014 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this the official story? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27568205 Do more Americans care that gas is cheaper, as opposed to the Shale and Oil industry being strangled? I do not think the average American realizes the ramifications of this dive. I personally am not sure which way it will take, as this is not a free market it is unpredictable. I would hope it will cause us to consider for national security reasons, exploitation of our existing natural gas resources. However, cheap oil will interfere with stability of any new market. At some point, likely through war and embargo, we will be forced to adapt to a natural gas economy with our oil going for essential petroleum based products. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64703445 United States 12/11/2014 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It happened in the late 1980s when OPEC couldn't get their shit together. I remember it well because I was about 16/and had just saved and bought my first car. It didn't save me much. I had a 1968 VW Beetle. My friends that had V8 Fords and Chevys saved. As I recall it hit 70¢ territory for a while. 1987ish. Look it up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65098390 Sweden 12/11/2014 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ohh you shills... complaining about this cheap oil.. LET ME REMIND YOU THIS : Despite this cheap oil (1/2 cheaper), HERE IN EUROPE, at the PUMP, the fuel is ONLY with 14% cheaper than before !!! So the biggest GAIN has landed in guberments pockets (and it did not affect the involved corporations!) because the taxmen is TAXING the fuel (with a fix amount) at the pump per each liter and not per PRODUCTION COSTS ! |
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just shut up..... User ID: 65328141 United States 12/11/2014 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can still recall when it was 50 cents a gallon! Back in the day. Never ever ever ever will it ever be less than $2/gallon in the USA again ! Ever EVAH,EVAH,EVAAAAH, EH? [link to www.oklahomacitygasprices.com] |
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TripleH User ID: 48782165 United States 12/11/2014 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just thinking with the Saudies doing this, I wouldn't be surprised if their oil platforms and or terminals don't all of a sudden suffer a terrorist attack... Watch, something will go Boom soon.... "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." |
TripleH User ID: 48782165 United States 12/11/2014 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the Seattle area we are really not seeing that much of a movement down on Gas prices. Why you may ask? Because nearly $1.50 of it is taxes... Quoting: TripleH Lol. I'm surprised they aren't forcing you to use a rickshaw. Chittum's Civil War 2 predicts an eco-facist government there. Enjoy! They want everyone riding bikes here. No fun riding on rainy days here and it rains a lot. "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 63492018 United States 12/11/2014 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could we expect to see the price drop to 50 bucks a gallon and then WAR (the money making machine) rears it's ugly head to raise the price again at some point for the greedy SOB's? Why would it stay low forever? War will be the ultimate consumer to drive it back up again. For the doomers predicting a natural disaster on the west coast or even the east coast..., wouldn't that drive it up too since for some places it would be non-existant? What about limited nuclear war...the low price will serve its purpose for a finite length of time... Then at some point, I truly believe all hell breaks loose. |
MonocyteOne User ID: 15041895 United States 12/11/2014 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With crude so low, I can't help but consider it a potential speculative investment opportunity. It certainly seems more predictable than silver at the moment. We've witnessed it drop very low and return to highs pretty regularly in the past five years. That said, I've never invested in crude. I assume at least a few folks here have experience with it. Any symbol suggestions (with explanation) or excellent info references? I'm reviewing UWTI and a few other ETFs right now. I'm not wealthy, so buying futures that have a 500 or 1000 barrel minimum isn't an option. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1584203 United States 12/11/2014 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saudi Arabia hasn't been able to increase supply in years, but they can now? No. This is all about demand plummeting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33538514 Anyone who believes anything on mainstream news is a brainwashed moran. Present company excluded, OP. And they're fixing prices to put their competitors out of business. Our fracking industry can't compete with oil prices so low. OPEC is shooting themselves in the foot to save the body. |
Epic Beard Guy User ID: 26240425 United States 12/11/2014 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just to clarify the situation, the fucking Saudis and the rest of OPEC did not "flood the market. They decided to leave output at the same level even though demand was down dramatically. Oil storage facilities are all full, and there are tankers just cruising around because they have no place to unload. This is a plan by OPEC to destoy the oil production of several countries. Oil exporting countries in Africa and South America could be forced into bankruptcy. The main target appears to be Russia. Russia depends heavily on oil exports for income. Oil accounts for about thirty percent of their tax base. Killing the American fracking oil production is just one extra little benifit for OPEC. The Saudis have always contolled the output of OPEC, and traditionally they would cut production to keep the price up. Now the Saudis and the rest of OPEC apparently have decided to take a short term hit to gain a long term advantage. This could be the trigger of the global depression. With countries in Africa and South America declaring bankruptcy, and Russia in great finacial distress, the economy of the whole world is in danger. Amazingly, America looks stronger than Russia, and most other oil exporters. That doesn't mean they can contiue to prop up our economy! The shit is about to hit the fan! Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
TripleH User ID: 48782165 United States 12/11/2014 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just to clarify the situation, the fucking Saudis and the rest of OPEC did not "flood the market. They decided to leave output at the same level even though demand was down dramatically. Oil storage facilities are all full, and there are tankers just cruising around because they have no place to unload. This is a plan by OPEC to destoy the oil production of several countries. Oil exporting countries in Africa and South America could be forced into bankruptcy. The main target appears to be Russia. Russia depends heavily on oil exports for income. Oil accounts for about thirty percent of their tax base. Killing the American fracking oil production is just one extra little benifit for OPEC. The Saudis have always contolled the output of OPEC, and traditionally they would cut production to keep the price up. Now the Saudis and the rest of OPEC apparently have decided to take a short term hit to gain a long term advantage. This could be the trigger of the global depression. With countries in Africa and South America declaring bankruptcy, and Russia in great finacial distress, the economy of the whole world is in danger. Amazingly, America looks stronger than Russia, and most other oil exporters. That doesn't mean they can contiue to prop up our economy! The shit is about to hit the fan! Quoting: Epic Beard Guy Right! If you can take out your competitors, why not? Seems like a smart move and just place your bets when it is super low because it will go UP! "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65962902 United States 12/11/2014 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | demand for oil isn't gotta drop off sharply overnight. Crude oil has more uses than just powering cars. This is where a lot of plastic and chemicals used to make things come from. China is still developing. The third world is the developing world. They're consuming more oil. Maybe the supply has matched the demand. |
Epic Beard Guy User ID: 26240425 United States 12/11/2014 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just to clarify the situation, the fucking Saudis and the rest of OPEC did not "flood the market. They decided to leave output at the same level even though demand was down dramatically. Oil storage facilities are all full, and there are tankers just cruising around because they have no place to unload. This is a plan by OPEC to destoy the oil production of several countries. Oil exporting countries in Africa and South America could be forced into bankruptcy. The main target appears to be Russia. Russia depends heavily on oil exports for income. Oil accounts for about thirty percent of their tax base. Killing the American fracking oil production is just one extra little benifit for OPEC. The Saudis have always contolled the output of OPEC, and traditionally they would cut production to keep the price up. Now the Saudis and the rest of OPEC apparently have decided to take a short term hit to gain a long term advantage. This could be the trigger of the global depression. With countries in Africa and South America declaring bankruptcy, and Russia in great finacial distress, the economy of the whole world is in danger. Amazingly, America looks stronger than Russia, and most other oil exporters. That doesn't mean they can contiue to prop up our economy! The shit is about to hit the fan! Quoting: Epic Beard Guy Right! If you can take out your competitors, why not? Seems like a smart move and just place your bets when it is super low because it will go UP! It will go up, only if the economy can recover from this hit. In America, there will be hundreds of thousands of lay offs caused by the oil industry crashing. We could have a global depression that makes 2008 look like a day at the beach. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
Shiva ascendant User ID: 65959659 United Kingdom 12/11/2014 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The US is starting to produce too much of its own oil from shale rock instead of buying it from the Arabs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44430661 Although extracting shale oil is expensive, the high price of imported oil has made it viable. The Arabs are letting their prices drop so shale oil is no longer viable to frack and you guys will go back to importing it. DAMN RIGHT This is the way the world ends. This is the way the world ends. This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but with a whimper. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65280895 United States 12/11/2014 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is all US sanctioned and fabricated to destroy the BRICS and mainly Russia. Why use troops to fight Russia when you can crash their economy, creating massive protests in the streets of Moscow against their government and eventual overthrow of Putin, leading to an internal coup and eventual forced removal of Putin and those close to him. It's similar to the tactics used during the Cold War that caused the Soviet Union to collapse. It seems the Russians haven't learned from their past mistakes and weaknesses. Russia is extremely vulnerable right now. Nom the Russians will not nuke anybody. Doing so will cause the world to turn against them with everything they have. No, the US will not nuke Russia for the same exact reasons. Putin will be gone, and business will return as usual. Congress approved sanctions on Venezuela earlier today. [link to www.bbc.com] |