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GREECE THREAD: BREAKING: EURO AREA FINANCE MINISTERS SAID TO MULL EU8.5B GREEK TRANCHE!!!p.865

 
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l 39 segHá 39 segundos
VAROUFAKIS: THERE IS NO RETURN TO THE DRACHMA, WE HAVE SMASHED OUR PRINTING PRESSES

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l 1 minHá 1 minuto
VAROUFAKIS SAYS "GREECE IS ON A WAR FOOTING"

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He can't be serious right? He's just bluffing, upping the ante or outright lying right?
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I think that Varoufakis quote is from his Bloomberg interview and it's taken out of context, he was basically saying "Like going to war, we're not thinking about defeat."
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No, I meant the statement which I underlined (sorry, wasn't very clear) about the printing presses. That's just rhetoric! Unless he knows the outcome already. I was hoping he and Tsipras were for real and would "pull an Iceland", but the more I follow this ongoing charade the less evidence I see of this.
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That may happen if he finds money outside EU. There are signs indicating it is possible. Depend on developments in the next 2-3 days I guess...
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GREECE'S KAMMENOS SAYS THE ARMED FORCES ENSURE THE STABILITY WITHIN THE COUNTRY ... huge warning to Tsipras and democracy #Greferendum

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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 32m32 minutes ago
Tsipras so far not dared to touch military budget. Now he did, triggers huge warning by Kammenos. Nationalists could exploit chaos #Greece


Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 38m38 minutes ago
GREECE'S KAMMENOS SAYS THE ARMED FORCES ENSURE THE STABILITY WITHIN THE COUNTRY ... huge warning to Tsipras and democracy #Greferendum
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No, I meant the statement which I underlined (sorry, wasn't very clear) about the printing presses. That's just rhetoric! Unless he knows the outcome already. I was hoping he and Tsipras were for real and would "pull an Iceland", but the more I follow this ongoing charade the less evidence I see of this.
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They can't kick them out of the Euro. Yet Greece will face hell staying in the euro zone. If they leave, as hard as it gets, they still have a chance. I think Tsipras is for real on this one and, either way, he already won. IMF gave him credibility and opened a terrible precedent. Let's see what's next on the road.
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 32m32 minutes ago
Tsipras so far not dared to touch military budget. Now he did, triggers huge warning by Kammenos. Nationalists could exploit chaos #Greece


Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 38m38 minutes ago
GREECE'S KAMMENOS SAYS THE ARMED FORCES ENSURE THE STABILITY WITHIN THE COUNTRY ... huge warning to Tsipras and democracy #Greferendum
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 32m32 minutes ago
Tsipras so far not dared to touch military budget. Now he did, triggers huge warning by Kammenos. Nationalists could exploit chaos #Greece


Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 38m38 minutes ago
GREECE'S KAMMENOS SAYS THE ARMED FORCES ENSURE THE STABILITY WITHIN THE COUNTRY ... huge warning to Tsipras and democracy #Greferendum
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Ordo ab chao.The endgame.
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No, I meant the statement which I underlined (sorry, wasn't very clear) about the printing presses. That's just rhetoric! Unless he knows the outcome already. I was hoping he and Tsipras were for real and would "pull an Iceland", but the more I follow this ongoing charade the less evidence I see of this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69660745


They can't kick them out of the Euro. Yet Greece will face hell staying in the euro zone. If they leave, as hard as it gets, they still have a chance. I think Tsipras is for real on this one and, either way, he already won. IMF gave him credibility and opened a terrible precedent. Let's see what's next on the road.
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I'm sure they could and would eventually, if that is the plan. There is no precedent for them leaving either the eurozone or the EU, but they would legislate and pull rules out of hats as they went along.
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the REAL opening of the Pandora's is doing any business with the IMF at all
His judgement cometh and that right soon
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Polls suggest NO wins.

Between the options of YES and NO on the institutions proposal, which one would you choose?


29–30 Jun Focus Yes 37.0, NO 40.2, Don't know 22.8

28–30 Jun ProRata Yes 33.0, NO 54.0, Don't know 13.0

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According to ProRata, after bank closures the poll position is:

Yes 37.0, NO 46.0
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 32m32 minutes ago
Tsipras so far not dared to touch military budget. Now he did, triggers huge warning by Kammenos. Nationalists could exploit chaos #Greece


Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 38m38 minutes ago
GREECE'S KAMMENOS SAYS THE ARMED FORCES ENSURE THE STABILITY WITHIN THE COUNTRY ... huge warning to Tsipras and democracy #Greferendum
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


Sometimes I wonder if my posts are invisible lol
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why does the bulgarian AC's posts always show up blank??
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 32m32 minutes ago
Tsipras so far not dared to touch military budget. Now he did, triggers huge warning by Kammenos. Nationalists could exploit chaos #Greece


Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 38m38 minutes ago
GREECE'S KAMMENOS SAYS THE ARMED FORCES ENSURE THE STABILITY WITHIN THE COUNTRY ... huge warning to Tsipras and democracy #Greferendum
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Sometimes I wonder if my posts are invisible lol
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why does the bulgarian AC's posts always show up blank??
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told you before ....for those who didnt beleive


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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l 39 segHá 39 segundos
VAROUFAKIS: THERE IS NO RETURN TO THE DRACHMA, WE HAVE SMASHED OUR PRINTING PRESSES

Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l 1 minHá 1 minuto
VAROUFAKIS SAYS "GREECE IS ON A WAR FOOTING"

 Quoting: Luisport


He can't be serious right? He's just bluffing, upping the ante or outright lying right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69660745


I think that Varoufakis quote is from his Bloomberg interview and it's taken out of context, he was basically saying "Like going to war, we're not thinking about defeat."
 Quoting: Saddletramp


No, I meant the statement which I underlined (sorry, wasn't very clear) about the printing presses. That's just rhetoric! Unless he knows the outcome already. I was hoping he and Tsipras were for real and would "pull an Iceland", but the more I follow this ongoing charade the less evidence I see of this.
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Yeah it really seems like they want to have their cake and eat it too...

Do whatever they want and remain in the Eurozone for the rest of Europe to support them...
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 32m32 minutes ago
Tsipras so far not dared to touch military budget. Now he did, triggers huge warning by Kammenos. Nationalists could exploit chaos #Greece


Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 38m38 minutes ago
GREECE'S KAMMENOS SAYS THE ARMED FORCES ENSURE THE STABILITY WITHIN THE COUNTRY ... huge warning to Tsipras and democracy #Greferendum
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


Sometimes I wonder if my posts are invisible lol
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why does the bulgarian AC's posts always show up blank??
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Fuckin' foreigners...

chuckle
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zerohedge ‏@zerohedge · 54s54 seconds ago
Greece Will Still Be Euro Member Day After Vote: Dijsselbloem

Why don't I believe Him
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Arianna Huffington ‏@ariannahuff · 41m41 minutes ago
NSA phone tap of Angela Merkel reveals she knew Greece's debt was unsustainable



this just shows how evil they our


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Back in 2011, before the most recent reorganization of Greek debt, German Chancellor Angela Merkel told her personal assistant that Greece's debts would still be unsustainable under the terms of the new arrangement unless it received more generous assistance from Germany and other wealthier European countries.

That's according to this National Security Agency intercept of her communications, revealed to the world by Wikileaks:
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RT ‏@RT_com · 4h4 hours ago
BREAKING: RT reporter @ilpetrenko_rt caught in Athens anarchist protest, teargassed [link to on.rt.com] #Greece
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RT ‏@RT_com · 4h4 hours ago
BREAKING: RT reporter @ilpetrenko_rt caught in Athens anarchist protest, teargassed [link to on.rt.com] #Greece
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The rally was initially peaceful, but “tensions have been rising in the last few minutes,” Petrenko said over the phone. “One activist apparently wanted to climb a ladder to stick a poster on the [EU office building] and that’s when police intervened and used teargas.”
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Arianna Huffington ‏@ariannahuff · 41m41 minutes ago
NSA phone tap of Angela Merkel reveals she knew Greece's debt was unsustainable



this just shows how evil they our


[link to www.vox.com]

Back in 2011, before the most recent reorganization of Greek debt, German Chancellor Angela Merkel told her personal assistant that Greece's debts would still be unsustainable under the terms of the new arrangement unless it received more generous assistance from Germany and other wealthier European countries.

That's according to this National Security Agency intercept of her communications, revealed to the world by Wikileaks:
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


today, i was listening to a radio show and it was about thr greece situation..and the was a guest (economist) that said a very true thing...the loans made to greece, primarily, where a way of easing the crisis (in 2008 and afterwards) of the german and french banks...
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Aris Messinis ‏@ArisMessinis · 29m29 minutes ago
Supporters of Greek Communist party demonstrate as the party's General Secretary call them to vote invalid ballot.
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Greece crisis: Police use tear gas to keep protesters from EU offices [link to tgr.ph]
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Saddle what you think is more important? the possible grexit or the Chinese stock crash?
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ForexLive ‏@ForexLive · 28s28 seconds ago
Eurogroup meeting scheduled for July 7 and 8 [link to news.forexlive.com] …
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Saddle what you think is more important? the possible grexit or the Chinese stock crash?
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a grexit would cause panic on stockmarkets so chinese stocks would crash harder. But if a grexit can be avoided then maybe the chinese stockmarket can recover or crash less hard.

Anyway they could be connected in the end
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Saddle what you think is more important? the possible grexit or the Chinese stock crash?
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Well they keep saying that the Stock Market in China is not really connected to the Chinese Economy, and it's fair to believe that all stock markets are divorced from reality right now. However I think it shows an underlying problem of massive bubbles in China, huge unsustainable bubbles in Credit, Equity Markets, and Real Estate...

China's correction will have a major impact on the world economy.

Greece by itself wouldn't do much to the world economy (as we've seen so far), BUT all of that changes if they call the Greek Debt and the Derivative Markets come into play.

China has the chance to slow the world economy to a crawl, Greece with it's derivative mess has the chance to melt down the world economy...
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Polls suggest NO wins.

Between the options of YES and NO on the institutions proposal, which one would you choose?


29–30 Jun Focus Yes 37.0, NO 40.2, Don't know 22.8

28–30 Jun ProRata Yes 33.0, NO 54.0, Don't know 13.0

[link to focusfm.gr]

[link to www.efsyn.gr]
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