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we are so doomed it isn't even funny

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Kemo
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8/6/2006 3:42 PM
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Oil Scoop
As a reporter, it's always fun when a trusted and reliable source pulls my coat to what's really going on behind the media hype. In this case, it was an article posted at the www.energybulletin.net side by Richard Heinberg titled "Middle East as a Crossroads". The paragraph that will drive the US to attack Iran before year's end is this:

At the ASPO conference a well-connected industry insider who wishes not to be directly quoted told me that his own sources inside Saudi Arabia insist that production from Ghawar is now down to less than three million barrels per day, and that the Saudis are maintaining total production at only slowly dwindling levels by producing other fields at maximum rates. This, if true, would be a bombshell: most estimates give production from Ghawar at 5.5 Mb/d.

My source, a highly respected oil industry consultant, goes on to advise me that "If true, it is not unexpected, and it means that the two largest producing fields in the world are crashing. BTW, the Saudi stock market crashed earlier this year because of heavy insider selling by the Saudi royal family. Ghawar + Cantarell crashing means explosive increases in oil prices."

So, if you look at the prospect of $200 oil, the Chinese cutting supply deals with Iran, and the Russians buying them nuclear development materials, it means that Iran (which will be putting out about 5% of the entire world's energy supplies as Cantarell and Ghawar production collapses will become an even more strategic asset. The clock is running on an energy-driven die-off and the neocons and a lot of others know the hour is late and, as energy banker Matthews Simmons has said so many times, the West doesn't have a "Plan B."

Bottom line: If the water-injection to Ghawar is causing it's sudden death right now (as leading researchers like Chip Haynes have been warning of since 2001) then the US is quickly getting into a corner and instead of using what we have lots of (brains) and anticipating the worst case (like a crash alternative energy program) we're trying to take the military solution, ignoring the fact that such tactics use tons of energy and wreck the planet along the way.

[link to urbansurvival.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 22628
United States
8/6/2006 3:53 PM
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Won't there be alot of dead politicians, heads of state, presidents and those involved with the oil industry in any capacity.

It's not that farfetched to believe that normal everyday people, those who would never dream of doing such a thing, purchasing a rifle, or two, and going out to start hunting down these people if gas reached $10 a gallon at the pump, is it?

People can only be pushed so far before they come to a point where they weigh what they have against what is being taken from them and to what end they will go to take it back.

Rich people are usually the last to fight back because they fear losing the most and have enough to endure the rising costs and greater taking.

Isn't this why the poorest parts of cities and parts of the country are rife with crime? What do they have to lose, what do they have to gain?
Kemo
User ID: 65489
United States
8/6/2006 4:35 PM
Re: we are so doomed it isn't even funnyQuote

Won't there be alot of dead politicians, heads of state, presidents and those involved with the oil industry in any capacity.

It's not that farfetched to believe that normal everyday people, those who would never dream of doing such a thing, purchasing a rifle, or two, and going out to start hunting down these people if gas reached $10 a gallon at the pump, is it?

People can only be pushed so far before they come to a point where they weigh what they have against what is being taken from them and to what end they will go to take it back.

Rich people are usually the last to fight back because they fear losing the most and have enough to endure the rising costs and greater taking.

Isn't this why the poorest parts of cities and parts of the country are rife with crime? What do they have to lose, what do they have to gain?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22628

violence will no doubt be a part of the die-off equation. the strong will survive by preying on the weak. when the weak are all gone the strong will prey upon themselves.

the coming barbarism will be horrific.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 116085
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8/6/2006 4:37 PM
Re: we are so doomed it isn't even funnyQuote

Just because you've read something on the internet doesn't mean it's true or that it'll be fulfilled.
tk
User ID: 91676
United States
8/6/2006 4:41 PM
Re: we are so doomed it isn't even funnyQuote

It's not that farfetched to believe that normal everyday people, those who would never dream of doing such a thing, purchasing a rifle, or two, and going out to start hunting down these people if gas reached $10 a gallon at the pump, is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22628


the systemic impact of end consumer $10/gallon gas will result in a world where you will be so busy scraping enough calories to feed yourself and your dependants, that hunting elites will be impossible....
Kemo
User ID: 65489
United States
8/6/2006 4:46 PM
Re: we are so doomed it isn't even funnyQuote

Just because you've read something on the internet doesn't mean it's true or that it'll be fulfilled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 116085

so are you saying no worries? there is now and ever shall be enough oil and food for everyone?

It's not that farfetched to believe that normal everyday people, those who would never dream of doing such a thing, purchasing a rifle, or two, and going out to start hunting down these people if gas reached $10 a gallon at the pump, is it?


the systemic impact of end consumer $10/gallon gas will result in a world where you will be so busy scraping enough calories to feed yourself and your dependants, that hunting elites will be impossible....
 Quoting: tk

there will be those that plunder the hard work of others. they will pluck the low hanging fruit so to speak. i mean why work for it when you and your gang of merry men can just take what you need; although i suppose pillaging is a form of work.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 127333
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8/6/2006 9:30 PM
Re: we are so doomed it isn't even funnyQuote

When?
crt
User ID: 127661
United States
8/6/2006 10:00 PM
Re: we are so doomed it isn't even funnyQuote

When?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 127333

Probably october.
Though I think the U.S. will go to Alaska and get it.
Doesn't Bush have the power to just override environmentalists?
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