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Flaw that allows any and all cell phone transmissions to be heard,

 
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12/19/2014 01:22 AM
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Flaw that allows any and all cell phone transmissions to be heard,
WOW, there is no longer privacy period.

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12/19/2014 01:29 AM
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None. We all just need to moon our 5acameras for posterity.
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12/19/2014 01:37 AM

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Even with out a cell..our children are shot;
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12/19/2014 01:45 AM
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12/19/2014 01:46 AM
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I wonder how long the HSA has known this?
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12/19/2014 01:50 AM
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Re: Flaw that allows any and all cell phone transmissions to be heard,
no dude not a flaw

that's a feature
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no dude not a flaw

that's a feature
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That's what I was thinking.

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12/19/2014 02:49 AM
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“Many of the big intelligence agencies probably have teams that do nothing but SS7 research and exploitation,” said Christopher Soghoian, principal technologist for the ACLU and an expert on surveillance technology. “They’ve likely sat on these things and quietly exploited them.”

Of course, makes (cynical) sense.

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12/19/2014 02:54 AM

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Just like the old days when you could pick up analog cell calls on a scanner.
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12/19/2014 03:03 AM
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Just like the old days when you could pick up analog cell calls on a scanner.
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That was some fun stuff.

A friend of mine worked at the Swedish state telephone company so he used to hook into the phone calls of people and prank them by starting speaking and butting into the phone calls and stuff like that.
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12/19/2014 03:07 AM
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Nothing new. Nothing to see here.

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12/19/2014 03:09 AM
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WOW, there is no longer privacy period.

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Bud were have you been?? There is no privacy since 1990's
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12/19/2014 04:04 AM
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Just like the old days when you could pick up analog cell calls on a scanner.
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You can pick up cell calls on a baby monitor.
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12/19/2014 04:20 AM
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Nothing new. Nothing to see here.

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what a great sentence.....
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WOW, there is no longer privacy period.

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I don't have a cell phone no smart phone or flip phone.

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12/19/2014 05:10 AM
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Means dumbphone users and their stir on full display.
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12/19/2014 05:25 AM
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Re: Flaw that allows any and all cell phone transmissions to be heard,
SS7 is a protocol, that has been developed for the Land switching lines, in order that a call initiated in a PLMN (exchange) to be routed to the desired number, located in other PLMN, which could be in different company or other country and continent.

Then the same protocol has been "updated" for using also into the Mobile networks and we all know that those networks were created with different spying features: like for direct tapping in the Mobile Switching Centers, which can be done only by knowing and direct order from officialism and you need to have probes, there physical in the operator building, but this SS7 is a surreptitious and occult way, to get "meta" data w/o the express knowledge of the operator, because the SS7 signalling is passing by the operator perimeter and even countries borders.
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12/19/2014 05:32 AM
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This is why I have more than one mobile phone. Regular subscription and a boost mobile. Different people get different numbers. Disinformation goes out on one sometimes, if I feel someone is or might snoop.

It is easy to call back and give correct info on another phone line...and to keep email messages going with the disinfo, once you explain to people they understand.

This subterfuge is more about keeping individuals out of your personal data vs. Feds...bc they have other means of finding out info anyway.

idk if the article mentions spoofing or not, but I have a mad case of that going on right now. People with different voices claiming to be from terminix stating I need to give out updated credit card data. I called the main terminix number and the account is square. This is a ploy to find out my real name and other data and I am pretty sure of the source. Received another phone call today asking for another name. Bitch assed amateurs ain't finding out shit...they think they are slick, they have no idea the rabbit hole they are down. My privacy is my privacy for a reason. Period. Feds know and anyone who would ever be part of my family, other than that hell to the no.

btw - not being paranoid. There are witnesses to these things and such things as my "public" disinfo line being called from it's own number. What would you think if your caller ID shows an incoming call coming from your own mobile number?
My IP never shows where I am either. This is thankfully by design.

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This is why I have more than one mobile phone. Regular subscription and a boost mobile. Different people get different numbers. Disinformation goes out on one sometimes, if I feel someone is or might snoop.

It is easy to call back and give correct info on another phone line...and to keep email messages going with the disinfo, once you explain to people they understand.

This subterfuge is more about keeping individuals out of your personal data vs. Feds...bc they have other means of finding out info anyway.

idk if the article mentions spoofing or not, but I have a mad case of that going on right now. People with different voices claiming to be from terminix stating I need to give out updated credit card data. I called the main terminix number and the account is square. This is a ploy to find out my real name and other data and I am pretty sure of the source. Received another phone call today asking for another name. Bitch assed amateurs ain't finding out shit...they think they are slick, they have no idea the rabbit hole they are down. My privacy is my privacy for a reason. Period. Feds know and anyone who would ever be part of my family, other than that hell to the no.
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whatever Your Privacy Is So Important You Take All These Paranoid Steps And Then Spill It All On A Spook Website. Lol Ok.
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I don't care about US fed spooks. Even though i can protect myself, there are reasons for this which has nothing to do with hiding from the feds, state, local, or companies. :)
It is other stuff.
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12/19/2014 06:07 AM
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Thread: 12 million home and business routers vulnerable to critical hijacking hack
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12/19/2014 06:44 AM
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Re: Flaw that allows any and all cell phone transmissions to be heard,
WOW, there is no longer privacy period.

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 Quoting: Desert Fox


Bud were have you been?? There is no privacy since 1990's
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Go back to ww1 when the brits were monitoring landlines and used the info to let the Germans sink the Lusitania, and thence the Americans into the war
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12/19/2014 07:40 AM
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Another reason why I will never own a cell phone.

Hack proof if you don't use it.


Ever wonder if someone can hack your On-Star? Sure can!

They can activate the microphone and eaves drop in your car. Even turn on the speaker and talk back to you.

GPS locations as well.


If it is electronic, communicates and is networked...it is hackable.

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12/19/2014 07:43 AM
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I can't believe that anybody ever thought you had privacy on a cell phone.

Use accordingly.
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12/19/2014 08:04 AM
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Gee...

You mean people can listen in on my walkee-talkee?

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12/19/2014 08:12 AM
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Re: Flaw that allows any and all cell phone transmissions to be heard,
Just want to note that all phone calls have ALWAYS been accessible to 'secret' monitoring. It was a part of my job some 40+ years ago and as easy as flicking one switch. Seems to me that the reason why you don't hear about it is not that the gvt was covering it up, it was that this technology was so very everyday/commonplace that no one considered it of any interest to talk about. Anyway, I learned very early that absolutely no communication system is private. Not even 'secure lines'.

So, someone or some recording technology listening in hears that you're having an affair, defrauding your company, avoiding taxes or suffering from bi polar disorder...? If the current system were all that good or even interested then there would be massively more prosecutions.

It's the old Stasi 10% thing: the East German security services struggled to keep an eye on less than 10% of the population - but the hype about their systems ensured that everyone lived in fear. Which is what the Stasi wanted.

With respect, we're freaking ourselves out unnecessarily: I honestly think that there are many other things that we need to be paying attention to.
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Thread: SS7 security flaw allows anyone to record or listen to you phone calls and intercept text messages... From ANY cell network!!!
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12/19/2014 08:26 AM
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WOW, there is no longer privacy period.

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Yep, SS7 has been around for quite a while along with it predecessors 6,5 etc. Having worked in this industry in its infancy, privacy concerns are well founded.

A cell phone is a full duplex walkie talkie. Remember walkie talkies? We designed the cell phone to transmit simultaneously in both directions unlike a walkie talkie where you had to "Push to talk"

Knowing all along that it would resemble a telephone and the consumer would think of it as such.

Now that we understand that it is a walkie talkie or two way radio disguised by a different name,

Do you really think anything you say over a portable radio is private???

Security?? LOL1rof1
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12/19/2014 09:11 AM
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Just assume all electronic devices are compromised.

The bigger question is where does all the data go, who funds the data mining, and for what purpose?
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12/19/2014 09:25 AM
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hell, they've had tech for years with which they can see right through your walls...

fire fighters use it to see into burning buildings in advance of rushing in...

surely you're aware of that fact...

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12/19/2014 09:27 AM
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WOW, there is no longer privacy period.

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Good.
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WOW, there is no longer privacy period.

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Good.
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