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Warning to Christians

 
beebee

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"Speak to the earth..." Is a poetic admonition to question and look at how things work by observing them as to question how and why. This is not ascribing mystical being to the creation other than what it tells you about God.


"Pulpit Commentary

Verse 8. - Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee. If the material earth be intended, the appeal must be to its orderly course, its summers and winters, its seedtime and harvest, its former and latter rains, its constant productivity, which, no less than animal instincts, speak of a single ruling power directing and ordering all things. If the creeping things of the earth, the reptile creation, be meant, then the argument is merely an expansion of that in the preceding verse. The instincts of reptiles are to be ascribed, no less than those of beasts and birds, to the constant superintending action and providence of the Almighty. And the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. The testimony will be unanimous - beasts, birds, reptiles, and fishes will unite in it."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64838046


The Pulpit Commentary is a homiletic commentary on the Bible created during the nineteenth century under the direction of Rev. Joseph S. Exell and Henry Donald Maurice Spence-Jones. It consists of 23 volumes with 22,000 pages and 95,000 entries, and was written over a 30 year period with 100 contributors.


Hmmm, who says their interpretation is the right interpretation? Are these men well versed in Greek mythology? The Bible, both Old and New Testament used in the West was written in Greek. The Bible is Greek mythology. I highly doubt these men knew anything about Greek mythology.

And besides, if this is indeed "the word of God", why then should I look outside myself for an interpretation? Shouldn't I allow "God" to speak to me directly?


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12/22/2014 09:45 PM
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Love one another! We are all in this together so lets be civil at least?
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I'm not the one throwing filthy insults to other people. In fact, I'm trying to show you that you are Divine. What do i get in return? This:

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"You are an inferior whore/dog of Satan. A stupid Jezebel who can't accept her place in a Man's world...."

Why do you people fear having your beliefs challenged?
 Quoting: beebee


I didn't call you that so why are you adressing me with that? And who are "you people"? Aren't we all divine?
 Quoting: vedklyvare


I know you didn't call me that. All i did is show you what so often happens when i try and show people they are Divine. Yes, we are ALL Divine; however, most religious people just cannot accept or acknowledge that fact. Most are stuck with the "we are all sinners" concept. I also try and show them that since the alleged Satan is the greatest deceiver of all, that would have to mean the majority of people ARE deceived. Which are the 2 major religious groups?
 Quoting: beebee


Are you saying temporary deception affects divinity in a negative way? Aren't we just following the narrative? If you know the truth and they are the ones decieved shouldn't you be more patient and understanding? Salomon also believed in the God of Abraham, so how you acknowledge his writing without acknowledging his core beliefs? You're not being consistent.
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That's what I'm trying to be, but it is quite difficult being civilized to others who resort to filthy name calling. As far as Solomon believing in the God of Abraham, didn't Paul make it very clear that the story of Abraham, Sarah and Hagar were an allegory? I would suggest that means ALL the stories in the bible are allegorical in nature.

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Love one another! We are all in this together so lets be civil at least?
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I am trying to be civil. If you check the posts, it is not i who is doing the filthy name calling. Yes, we certainly are in this together. I also believe once everyone recognizes the Divinity in themselves first and then in others, there can be nothing else but to Love one Another!!
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I didn't call you that so why are you adressing me with that? And who are "you people"? Aren't we all divine?
 Quoting: vedklyvare


I know you didn't call me that. All i did is show you what so often happens when i try and show people they are Divine. Yes, we are ALL Divine; however, most religious people just cannot accept or acknowledge that fact. Most are stuck with the "we are all sinners" concept. I also try and show them that since the alleged Satan is the greatest deceiver of all, that would have to mean the majority of people ARE deceived. Which are the 2 major religious groups?
 Quoting: beebee


Are you saying temporary deception affects divinity in a negative way? Aren't we just following the narrative? If you know the truth and they are the ones decieved shouldn't you be more patient and understanding? Salomon also believed in the God of Abraham, so how you acknowledge his writing without acknowledging his core beliefs? You're not being consistent.
 Quoting: vedklyvare


That's what I'm trying to be, but it is quite difficult being civilized to others who resort to filthy name calling. As far as Solomon believing in the God of Abraham, didn't Paul make it very clear that the story of Abraham, Sarah and Hagar were an allegory? I would suggest that means ALL the stories in the bible are allegorical in nature.

 Quoting: beebee


I know what allegories are, and everybody knows the Bible is full or allegory. That doesn't mean everything is. No, you're not being very patient or understanding. You're almost always aggressive when you post and constantly insults people with different beliefs than you have. Don't worry, we're all divine just as you said, they'll work it out eventually.
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12/22/2014 10:24 PM
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If you're waiting to be lifted off the face of Mother Earth, I'd be quite careful if I were you. You have no idea what this imaginary dude known as JC looks like and you have no idea where you will be taken. Perhaps you will be taken to another "world" because you do not care to be on this one any longer? What guarantees do you have that things will be better on another world? Remember, Satan IS the greatest deceiver of all!!! Perhaps it is YOU that has been deceived in believing you will be taken to a "special place"? Why not choose instead to stay and do everything you can to make this a better place for everyone?
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You shouldn't assume that JC is imaginary. Be more open minded to possibilities.
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"Speak to the earth..." Is a poetic admonition to question and look at how things work by observing them as to question how and why. This is not ascribing mystical being to the creation other than what it tells you about God.


"Pulpit Commentary

Verse 8. - Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee. If the material earth be intended, the appeal must be to its orderly course, its summers and winters, its seedtime and harvest, its former and latter rains, its constant productivity, which, no less than animal instincts, speak of a single ruling power directing and ordering all things. If the creeping things of the earth, the reptile creation, be meant, then the argument is merely an expansion of that in the preceding verse. The instincts of reptiles are to be ascribed, no less than those of beasts and birds, to the constant superintending action and providence of the Almighty. And the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. The testimony will be unanimous - beasts, birds, reptiles, and fishes will unite in it."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64838046


The Pulpit Commentary is a homiletic commentary on the Bible created during the nineteenth century under the direction of Rev. Joseph S. Exell and Henry Donald Maurice Spence-Jones. It consists of 23 volumes with 22,000 pages and 95,000 entries, and was written over a 30 year period with 100 contributors.


Hmmm, who says their interpretation is the right interpretation? Are these men well versed in Greek mythology? The Bible, both Old and New Testament used in the West was written in Greek. The Bible is Greek mythology. I highly doubt these men knew anything about Greek mythology.

And besides, if this is indeed "the word of God", why then should I look outside myself for an interpretation? Shouldn't I allow "God" to speak to me directly?


[link to www.hiddenmeanings.com]
 Quoting: beebee


You are confirmed in your Greek myth view, but by virtue of being in Greek and used in the west in Greek does not endorse the myths by existing in Greek. The Greek myths came from what? Consider that the Bible is God's version of clarifying the myths as to their origins?

As for allowing God to speak to you directly, that is a false dichotomy as though learning from others means God is not teaching you. The Word is a source of knowledge and wisdom and a lens for understanding. Has your view of a Bible teaching never been instructed or changed by hearing another?
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If you're waiting to be lifted off the face of Mother Earth, I'd be quite careful if I were you. You have no idea what this imaginary dude known as JC looks like and you have no idea where you will be taken. Perhaps you will be taken to another "world" because you do not care to be on this one any longer? What guarantees do you have that things will be better on another world? Remember, Satan IS the greatest deceiver of all!!! Perhaps it is YOU that has been deceived in believing you will be taken to a "special place"? Why not choose instead to stay and do everything you can to make this a better place for everyone?
 Quoting: beebee


You shouldn't assume that JC is imaginary. Be more open minded to possibilities.
 Quoting: SunLion 66308964


Same applies to you, yes, no? Don't forget, I was brought up in exactly the same kind of belief system (BS) as you were. If i had been born into the Hindu BS, I would believe in that. Can you not see that? We believe that which we were taught by our parents, teachers, etc., yes, no?

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"Speak to the earth..." Is a poetic admonition to question and look at how things work by observing them as to question how and why. This is not ascribing mystical being to the creation other than what it tells you about God.


"Pulpit Commentary

Verse 8. - Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee. If the material earth be intended, the appeal must be to its orderly course, its summers and winters, its seedtime and harvest, its former and latter rains, its constant productivity, which, no less than animal instincts, speak of a single ruling power directing and ordering all things. If the creeping things of the earth, the reptile creation, be meant, then the argument is merely an expansion of that in the preceding verse. The instincts of reptiles are to be ascribed, no less than those of beasts and birds, to the constant superintending action and providence of the Almighty. And the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. The testimony will be unanimous - beasts, birds, reptiles, and fishes will unite in it."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64838046


The Pulpit Commentary is a homiletic commentary on the Bible created during the nineteenth century under the direction of Rev. Joseph S. Exell and Henry Donald Maurice Spence-Jones. It consists of 23 volumes with 22,000 pages and 95,000 entries, and was written over a 30 year period with 100 contributors.


Hmmm, who says their interpretation is the right interpretation? Are these men well versed in Greek mythology? The Bible, both Old and New Testament used in the West was written in Greek. The Bible is Greek mythology. I highly doubt these men knew anything about Greek mythology.

And besides, if this is indeed "the word of God", why then should I look outside myself for an interpretation? Shouldn't I allow "God" to speak to me directly?


[link to www.hiddenmeanings.com]
 Quoting: beebee


You are confirmed in your Greek myth view, but by virtue of being in Greek and used in the west in Greek does not endorse the myths by existing in Greek. The Greek myths came from what? Consider that the Bible is God's version of clarifying the myths as to their origins?

As for allowing God to speak to you directly, that is a false dichotomy as though learning from others means God is not teaching you. The Word is a source of knowledge and wisdom and a lens for understanding. Has your view of a Bible teaching never been instructed or changed by hearing another?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64838046


What I'm trying to say is - if indeed the bible is actually the word of God, as many of you claim, then, don't you think it would/should be understood by each and every one of us in the exact same way? Why is it that the so called 'word of god' can be interpreted in so many different ways? If there is room for error in translation/interpretation, how then can it be the word of god? If god is perfect, as you all claim, how then can there be any question at all about this so called 'word of god'? Should it not be "perfect" as well? And if it is "perfect" as so many of you claim, then why is it that it can be "misinterpreted"? Should not the very meekest understand it equally as well as the most learned?
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