All Hail Prince Michael James Alexander Stewart, King of Scotland, England, and Ireland! | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 127956 United States 08/07/2006 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "PRINCE MICHAEL OF ALBANY" This pretended heir of the male line of the Royal House of Stuart like some other pseudo-princes, has based himself in Belgium, a country which also has an over abundance of self-styled "Orders". The Royal House of Stuart became extinct in the male line with the death of Henry (IX) Stuart, Duke of York, Cardinal of the Holy Roman Church and Bishop of Frascati, in 1807. He had succeeded his elder brother, Charles (III) Stuart, sometimes known as "Bonnie Prince Charlie", in 1788, on the latter's death without legitimate issue (he left one illegitimate daughter, Clementina, who also died without issue). Both were the sons of James (III), Prince of Wales, only son of James II, King of England, Scotland, France and Ireland, (illegally) deposed as King of England and Scotland on 10 Dec 1688, and as King of Ireland six months later, who died in exile in 1701. With the death of Cardinal Henry of York, representation of the House of Stuart passed to Charles Emmanuel of Savoy, King of Sardinia. The latter's present heir is Franz, Duke of Bavaria. "Prince" Michael's claim (my thanks to James Dempster) "In November 1785, at Santi Apostoli in Rome, Prince Charles Edward Stuart married Marguerite O’Dea d’Audibert de Lussan, Comtesse de Massillan (1749-1820). This union produced a son, Prince Edward James Stuart, Count Stuarton, Count of Albany (1786-1845) In 1809 "Count Stuarton" married Maria Emmanuella Pasquini (1789-1854), the daughter of Eduordo Guiseppe Pasquini and Leonora, Comtessa di Vaglio, producing a son and heir Henry Edward Benedict Stuart (1809-1869) In 1829 "Prince Henry" married Agnes Beatriz de Pescara (1810-1878), the daughter of Conte Anselmo Bernardo de Pescara and Aliena Garbielle Barberini-Colonna, Principessa de Palestrina, producing a son, Prince Charles Benedict James Stuart (1829-1887). "Prince Charles", who was apparently murdered by Hanovarian agents in 1887 was married in 1864 to Louise Jeanne Francoise Dalvray (1839-1908), daughter of Jean Francois Louis Dalvray and Jeanne Amelie de Valois. This marriage produced Prince Julius Anthony Henry Stuart (1874-1941) who changed the name back to Stewart in 1892 and very graciously renounced his claim to the English throne in 1913. "Prince Julius" was married in 1898 to Marie Joanna Vandenbosch (1873-1942), daughter of Claude Philippe Vandenbosch de Monpertigen and Jeanne Philippe, Comtesse de Lannoy. This marriage produced two sons, Prince Anthony James Stewart (1900-1963 dsp) and Julius Joseph James Stewart of Annandale (1906-1985) "Julius Stewart of Annandale" married - at some time unspecified - Germaine Elize Segers de la Tour d’Auvergne, Princess de Sedan (1908-1992), with issue in 1934 of Renee Julienne Stewart, Princess Royal of Strathearn and Lady Derneley (b 1934). "Lady Derneley" married Baron Gustave Lafosse de Chatry, Comte de Blois (b 1935) producing as issue Prince Michael James Alexander Stewart (b 1958) who has apparently been de jure King Alexander IV since 1963. Fascinatingly, Prince Michael brings together four lines of descent from Prince Charles Edward Stuart. His grandmother, the Princess de Sedan, descends from the marriage of Aglae Clementine, daughter of the Duchess of Albany by Ferdinand de Rohan-Guenene (sic, actually Guemenée), whilst his father the Count of Blois has two descents from the other Rohan-Albany daughter, both via Prince Louis Xavier de Bourbon, son of Charles, Duc de Berri, the son of Charles X. His paternal grandfather descending from Prince Louis daughter Victorine, and that grandfather’s wife being a descendant of the Duc d’Aquitaine. Prince Michael brings together four lines of descent from Prince Charles Edward Stuart. His grandmother, the Princess de Sedan, descends from the marriage of Aglae Clementine, daughter of the Duchess of Albany by Ferdinand de Rohan-Guenene (sic, actually Guemenée), whilst his father the Count of Blois has two descents from the other Rohan-Albany daughter, both via Prince Louis Xavier de Bourbon, son of Charles, Duc de Berri, the son of Charles X. His paternal grandfather descending from Prince Louis' daughter Victorine, and that grandfather’s wife being a descendant of the Duc d’Aquitaine. [link to www.chivalricorders.org] Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 10/27/2013 11:18 PM |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 127956 United States 08/07/2006 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Styled Prince Michael of Albany Michel Lafosse, also known as Prince Michael of Albany, is not an Irish Chief or Prince, but by virtue of his claim to be the Stuart heir to the Throne of Scotland he does appropriate some Irish lineage and therefore deserves attention. Who is Lafosse and what is the nature of his claim? By his own account, Lafosse was born in Belgium in 1958, has made Scotland his permanent home since 1976, and in addition to being the 7th Count of Albany, he goes by the style of Alexander IV, Head of the Royal House of Stuart (or Stewart) and Prince de jure of Scotland. Other more exotic titles include Titular Prince of France and Poland, Head of the Sacred Kindred of Saint Columba, Archpriest of the Celtic Apostolic Church, President of the European Council of Princes, Knight Grand Commander, The Chivalric Military Order of the Temple of Jerusalem, and much more. All laid these claims were laid out on Lafosse's website at [link to mediaquestusa.com] and later at [link to www.royalhouseofstewart.org.uk] both of which sites are now removed (some of the older content may be accessed via the Wayback Machine web archive). One of Lafosse's principal supporters has been the author Laurence Gardner, who styles himself The Chevalier Labhràn de St Germain. Gardner has published a book whose message is clear from its title, Bloodline of the Holy Grail: The Hidden Lineage of Jesus Revealed (Element Books, Shaftesbury, Dorset, and Rockport, Massachussets, 1996). In 400 pages of text and over 50 pages of genealogical charts, Gardner purports to trace a direct line of descent from Jesus Christ and his alleged consort Mary Magdalene to one Lionel, said to be a near contemporary of the fabled King Arthur whose death is placed in 603 AD. Lionel is claimed to be the ancestor of Walter FitzAlan, 1st High Steward of Scotland, who died in 1177 and whose descendant became King Robert II of Scotland in 1371 (Bloodline of the Holy Grail, pages 236-47, 279-80, 424). The Stuarts of course succeeded to the Throne of England in 1603 following the death of the childless Elizabeth I, when James VI of Scotland became also James I of England. The vicissitudes of the later Stuarts in the wake of the overthrow of James II in 1688 are well known, culminating in the last doomed attempt of Prince Charles Edward Stuart, 'Bonny Prince Charlie', to restore the Dynasty during the Jacobite Rebellion of 1745. Now Lafosse and his supporters declare that Prince Charles contracted a second and hitherto concealed marriage with a Marguerite O'Dea d'Audibert in 1785, from whom Lafosse is allegedly descended in the maternal line. Noel McFerran's critique of these and other claims of Lafosse can be read at [link to members.rogers.com] and there is another critical article by Guy Stair Sainty at [link to www.chivalricorders.org] The royal claims of Michel Lafosse are very similar to the now exploded pretences of Terence MacCarthy, who purported to be 'The MacCarthy Mór, Prince of Desmond'. As with MacCarthy, I decided it would be a good idea to start by checking the most recent vital certificates relating to Lafosse's family, copies of which he had helpfully placed on his website, but which were later removed. The first certificate states that Lafosse was born in Brussels on 21 April 1958 in the Ville de Bruxelles district, and that his parents were Baron Gustave Joseph Fernand Clément Lafosse and Princess Renée Julienne Stewart. The second certificate states that Lafosse's grandparents Prince Julius Joseph Jacques Stewart and Princess Germania Elisa Segers were married in 1932, again in Brussels. It seemed advisable to verify these documents, and so a letter of enquiry was sent on 12 April 2002 to the Registrar's Office, Boulevard Anspach 6, 1000 Bruxelles, Belgique. A reply was received by e-mail on 19 April, signed by the Conseiller Etat Civil, which stated bluntly that the above birth and marriage certificates were false ('sont des faux'), and furthermore that Michel Lafosse was born elsewhere in Brussels. Gordon MacGregor Comrie kindly supplied the copy of of Lafosse's true birth certificate below, which shows that he was indeed born in Brussels on 21 April 1958 but in the Watermael-Boitsfort district, with recorded first names Michel Roger, and that his parents are named simply as Gustave Joseph Clément Fernand Lafosse, a shopkeeper, and Renée Julienne Dée, a business employee, with no indication of any noble status whatsoever. Again, it was considered necessary to check that this second certificate was definitely in order, so on 25 July 2002 an enquiry was sent to the Etat Civil, Commune de Watermael-Boitsfort, Place Gilson 1, 1170 Bruxelles, Belgique. A reply was received on 9 August confirming that the certificate below was authentic, the words used being, 'Le certificat en question est une copie conforme à l'original'. At a relatively late stage in research the writer found that a thorough report exposing Michel Lafosse as a fraud had been compiled in Scotland as long ago as 1980 by one Jack S MacDonald, the text of which may be read at [link to priory-of-sion.com] MacDonald established that the birth certificate of 'Prince Michael' was a forgery, that other documentation presented by the claimant was also fabricated, and concluded that he was 'a forger and a fraud'. The latter site provides the interesting information that MacDonald's report was commissioned by 'a group of the Scottish Patriots which included Wendy Wood, A J Stewart, Nigel Tranter and others', and states that being 'told fairy stories by his grandmother is what seems to have inspired Michel Lafosse into becoming the future "Prince Michael of Albany"'. It is remarkable what little effect MacDonald's research appears to have had, although a number of individuals in Scotland and abroad kept the matter in view over the years. Exposing bogus claimants to titles is a complex, time-consuming and often frustrating task, and the writer has found that while a report stating the genealogical facts is an essential element, it is usually not sufficient in itself to settle the issue. It was noted that in 2001 Lafosse received from the Home Office a certificate of naturalisation as a British citizen, using the name Michael James Alexander Stewart of Albany, which document is reproduced below (copy courtesy of Rafal Heydel-Mankoo at [link to www.geocities.com] Lafosse naturalisation cert It will be noted firstly that the certificate 'does not certify the accuracy of the personal particulars, which are supplied by the person who made the application'. However, it can be seen that there is a also a section 'Name at birth if different'. It has been demonstrated above that the applicant's name on his authentic birth certificate is Michel Roger Lafosse, and it was a serious omission not to have notified this to the Home Office when applying for naturalisation. While as indicated above, careful research is required, a definitive media exposure is usually also needed to topple hoaxers such as Terence MacCarthy and Michel Lafosse. While there had been intermittent media coverage over the years, a fairly thorough exposure of the spurious claims of Michel Lafosse aka 'Prince Michael of Albany' appeared in the Scottish Sunday Herald of 2 April 2006: [link to www.sundayherald.com] The article deals with the false birth certificate and the irregular naturalisation certificate, mentioning also a passport obtained using questionable documents and a diplomatic passport issued in the name of the 'Sovereign Order of St John of Jerusalem'. It is understood that the Home Office initiated proceedings against Lafosse in relation to the false documentation presented in support of his citizenship application, and that charity regulators were also investigating his fund raising activities. In late July 2006 it was reported that Lafosse had fled Scotland and moved back to Belgium to live with his mother (Sunday Mail, 23 July 2006), and his website was taken down. Thus appears to have ended the remarkable decades-long hoax of Michel Lafosse, the so-called Prince Michael of Albany, although it remains to be seen whether the Belgian authorities will want to take proceedings in relation to forgery of vital certificates issued within their jurisdiction. [link to homepage.eircom.net] |
yerak_hunt User ID: 1622 United States 08/07/2006 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Council's recognition of a royal Stewart (Stuart) Quoting: Stupi 'Dmofo 127956i'm not the least bit surprised you don't understand the difference between those 2 names. . ^^**^^**^^**^^**^^**^^**^^**^^**^^**^^**^^**^^**^^** so many conflicting conspiracy theories, so little evidence of any. |
Arch~Angel User ID: 128120 United States 08/07/2006 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Council's recognition of a royal Stewart (Stuart) Quoting: yerak_hunti'm not the least bit surprised you don't understand the difference between those 2 names. Enlighten us, please. "It was not my intention to doubt that the doctrines of the Illuminati, and the principles of Jacobinism, had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more fully satisfied of this fact than I am." ~George Washington, 1782 |
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Brian Boru User ID: 128179 Australia 08/08/2006 03:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stuart allegedly denotes royal lineage, whilst Stewart is common. Comes from Steward of the Palace for the first such who was of Norman bllod but married to a Celt. he was the part High King of Scotland's Norman "advisory council".The High King broke Celtic custom by arrogating to himself illegitimate rights of land disposal and incurred a rebellion by the lesser kings or earls led by Somerled the Lord of the Isles (MacDonald line) Complete bullshit that they have claim on being any sort of Celtic royalty as the Celtic kings were selected from aristocratic clanns and ratified by the druids.Norman and Germanic kingship is based on primogeniture, not ability, which the Celtic kingship was.Just a bunch of inbreeds, like the present eurotrash English royal family. "Dragons"... hm maybe they're one of those hybrid Lizzie/human lines. Fuck'em. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38479 United States 08/08/2006 03:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | totally ignorant as to any of this pedigree stuff, but my dad told me that back and back he's from the house of stewart. how exactly we are there, i have no idea. but that's what he says. maybe something to look into, maybe i can be king of scotland too one day. i'll show up in my jeans blaring some nin, and of course my first words will be hail to the king baby. |
Brian Boru User ID: 128179 Australia 08/08/2006 04:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hell, put yourself up as a candidate,you've got as much right as anyone.The whole story is crap... descended form Jesus is one version. Oh sure! Primogeniture= father to son. Old Celtic =the best man for the position. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 128195 New Zealand 08/08/2006 05:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prince Michael of Albany is bloodline descendent to Magdalene and Jesus. The elite who are running this world are weaker strains of this bloodline. All go back to the Annunaki, Michael included. It is my opinion that Michael of Albany is on the good side of the Annunaki descendants and were it up to me he would be running the world!! GO MICHAEL!! A Stewart once was offered the crown of America but foolishly turned it down. Oh how times may have been different. And now a long time ago a moment of humble righteousness may have cost us all dearly. |
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Mi'Kmaq User ID: 1002628 Puerto Rico 11/08/2012 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Michel Lafosse was exposed years ago as a fake. He used fake documents and a fake birth certificate. Nicholas de Vere is the head of The Imperial and Royal Dragon court and The Council of Princes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27328549 so what? he is a lot of people's cousin,you think cousin Nicholas is something?............ Last Edited by 1357 on 11/08/2012 04:07 PM |
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