Why people say they are ok with hell

I'm not ok with heaven and I'm not ok with hell . Everyone who does not want to be involved in this bs we should start a third choice for an afterlife one where we don't have to be tortured and we don't have to be worshipers. A place of peace and total freedom we deserve that at least.

Jude 1:7 references them 'giving themselves over to fornication'. This is a clear reference to the PEOPLE, not the buildings of the city.

First of all the Greek word 'aion', (improperly translated as eternal in our English bibles), is not even in that verse. Secondly, there is no word in either the Hebrew or Greek manuscripts from which modern language bibles are translated, which can be properly translated as 'hell'.

The Christian hell came from the Roman hell which came from the Greek hades which came from the Egyptian Amenti. The Christian hell is the pagan Egyptian underworld of tartarus. Basically it is Dante and Egyptian paganism.

Yeah... I'm talking about people. People lived in Sodom and Gomorrah you know. They suffered the vengeance, not the buildings. You seem confused. It won't be buildings thrown into the lake of fire. We're talking about people.

Why are you so averse to the truth? What do you have to gain? You do realize you have friends, family, relatives, loved ones, acquaintances, schoolmates that will go into the lake of fire? You do realize that? According to you, for an actual eternity.

What were the crime? They feel short? Were they bad people. Not really. What will be the punishment? Why eternal torture of course! A brother or a mother. A finite lifetime of what, 40, 50, 60, 70 years. 999 999 999 999 999 billions millennia of unfathomable suffering and agony and still no sign of relief. We haven't even begun yet! Eternity awaits! No mercy ever! "Please, put an end to us, we've payed for our crimes! Please!" No end, no mercy will ever come.

Does it turn you on? Satanist.

The Scripture agrees with itself. The people of those cities fell under God's wrath, and they did not repent. No the cities are not still burning, yes their souls/spirits are eternally separated form God. The law exposed the crime. Before Jesus and grace, the people had the law given to Moses by God. They knew their crime and had several chances to repent, but did not.

Genesis 18:23 And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?

24 Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?

25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?

26 And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.'

You just keep deviating from topic and focus on wrong parts of the verses posted. It's not why they were destroyed we're discussing, it's how, and why they're made an example. I'm done. Do your own research. Reread the posts in this thread and study the subject. Kneejerk reactions will get you nowhere closer to the truth. I'll leave you with this parable:

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I'm sure you can find some false teachers twisting that passage for you. Just make sure you're numbered with the sheep.

I told you before I didn't even understand your point. How they were destroyed? Fire and brimstone, the sulfur evidence is still there.

You asked what crime they committed? Seriously? You should have been done after that, honestly.

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'geenna'

Hell is the place of the future punishment called "Gehenna" or "Gehenna of fire". This was originally the valley of Hinnom, south of Jerusalem, where the filth and dead animals of the city were cast out and burned; a fit symbol of the wicked and their future destruction.

It is a Hebrew transliteration, not Roman.

And they were given as example of what will become of the ungodly and the wicked. They will be destroyed; ashes; carcases. That was the purpose of the verses I posted; they all support annihilationism. Even if they contain words such as "eternal" or unquenchable.

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. Revelation 21:4

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'geenna'

Hell is the place of the future punishment called "Gehenna" or "Gehenna of fire". This was originally the valley of Hinnom, south of Jerusalem, where the filth and dead animals of the city were cast out and burned; a fit symbol of the wicked and their future destruction.

It is a Hebrew transliteration, not Roman.

"Repentance can be born only of grace. If God does not send grace to a spirit, making it understand the perpetrated evil, then there can be no supernatural repentance. Without grace, a demon can understand that it was a foolish decision to have rebelled, a decision that has caused it suffering. But true repentance is qualitatively different from just mere awareness. It is not simply an act of the understanding; rather, it is a gift from God so that we might bend our knees before Him and humbly ask for His forgiveness. Without this grace, one may feel pain for making a wrong decision, but true repentance is beyond him. Demons can admit that their choice led to suffering, but this does not stop them from hating God.

The eternity of hell, then, is not due to some arbitrary divine decision. Rather, its eternal duration is a necessary consequence of rebellion against God. It is they who have drifted far away from Him and do not want to return. Many Christians think that God is excessively severe in imposing an eternal condemnation on sinners, but He is just giving those who hate Him what they want – eternal separation from Him (see Catechism of the Catholic Church 1033-1037).

Some people think: “Well, no matter how much I sin, I do not want to go to hell and be separated from God. I will always want to ask for forgiveness.” With this kind of reasoning, they calmly go on sinning. To these people we need to say that many who are condemned to hell never thought that they would be. If one continues to sin, this will lead to increasingly more serious sins and eventually one will end up being confirmed in sin, making repentance all the more difficult. We can see this in the lives of those who abuse drugs. In the beginning, they were normal people who started to use drugs socially and in moderation. When they saw the pathetic state of drug addicts, they asked themselves how such people could be so weak and let drugs take over their lives so completely. Soon, though, the social users begin to use more and more, and eventually their state becomes as bad as those they condemned. It is the same with sin: those condemned to hell believed that they would not pass certain limits, that they would keep their sin “under control.” But, as we have said, sin breeds more and greater sin, leading one further down the path to destruction.

But what about the devil? If he repented right now, couldn’t the devil do an intense penance for millions of years to be purified from his sins? This seems like a reasonable question since we know that there is no sin that cannot be forgiven. But the condemnation of the devil (and that of the other demons as well) is not primarily a problem of sin per se; it is a problem of the will. The devil’s condemnation is eternal because his choice is, in the words of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, “irrevocable” and not due to a “defect in the infinite divine mercy” (CCC 393).

Thus, it is impossible for the devil to do penance and return to God. He (and the other demons) possessed the power of an angelic intellect. Unlike us, he did not suffer from a weakened will or a darkened intellect. He knew full well the consequences of his rebellion against the divine will.

It is the devil’s own will that impedes his repentance, and it is certain that no demon or condemned soul has ever repented. Without grace, repentance is impossible. The condemned will not receive this grace since they have already made their definitive decision: non serviam (“I will not serve”). Thus, the circle has been closed around hell for all eternity."

- Father Jose Antonio Fortea, author of Summa Daemoniaca