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| odaeio Offer Upgrade  User ID: 66420861  United Kingdom12/27/2014 06:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| odaeio (OP) User ID: 66420861 United Kingdom12/27/2014 07:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | O.K. I see which side this forum is on. Never mind. Immediately 1 star and a ridiculing comment. I sincerely hope this forum loses the "war", but evil is obviously very powerful - well, it has succeeded so far, but there is a ways to go yet. The Universe does Balance and Equilibrium - neither excess nor deficit. Perhaps humanity would have been wise to follow it's example. |
| Daughter User ID: 62159782  United States12/27/2014 07:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was recorded even by the Roman ruler of the time. The Holy Bible is real, Jesus Christ is not the name he had back then, it is sort of a new name you see we did not have and English name translation. He was Aramaic, but it meant the Lord is with us, Emmanuel another is mostly descriptions of the Christ or Messiah of the Jews, who also became our for we excepted him. People of the time were there saw the miracles and converted even some of the Romans. He was not the first man to do miracles because of God the prophets did by the Holy spirit. But Jesus was the promise Son of God, written about in Issiah and other books of the Old Testament. He did all and more he was really the true king of Israel, he was prophet and High priest of God all rolled into one man. The spirit of God fell on him he was the walking talking true word of the living God here on earth. Everything he did, was only by God strength but he also said what he did we could do and more and this is where the problem lays at the world that is blocking us from being all we are supposed to be. It needs to be a quit world not so noisy a world, no modern thinks that make noise in your head, so you can be with the all in all, It is where the God says we can do it, the world says it is impossible. There in lays the rub. They took the joy and song from man. You know the song the hills are alive with music, well that is a joyful noise unto the Lord. Now, all the electricity has to out just to have a quit time. It is peaceful and people act a lot better. Daughter out with my own way. |
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| GLP UNITE User ID: 66419655 United States12/27/2014 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was just a mushroom, bro. Chill out, smoke some weed, and get to know Jesus. Let JEEZUS inside of you so that you can be SAVED-A! Last Edited by Distribute Mushrooms on 12/27/2014 07:27 AM |
| SunLion User ID: 66371926 United States12/27/2014 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| SunLion User ID: 66371926 United States12/27/2014 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | O.K. I see which side this forum is on. Never mind. Quoting: odaeio Immediately 1 star and a ridiculing comment. I sincerely hope this forum loses the "war", but evil is obviously very powerful - well, it has succeeded so far, but there is a ways to go yet. Your definition of evil isn't exactly what you're saying it is. You say that religion is evil.... well, to a huge extent, it's true. Or more accurately, it's been hijacked for evil purposes. The original purpose for religion was to connect humanity to God. Today it's used to distract people from finding God themselves. |
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| odaeio (OP) User ID: 66420861 United Kingdom12/27/2014 07:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your understanding serves you well? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66419716 But everyone has their own opinion (OP) May I remind you that the disputable truth is still that your sitting in front of a monitor right now. All belief is just to stretch the mind.  My understanding is based on everything factual I see around me. The question to ask is: "Why does humanity behave the way it does with regard to all other life on this planet? What possible benefit can there be in over-riding every single system that Nature employs? How can even humanity itself avoid extinction, if it continues on this path? Where is the logic or reason?" There is only one conclusion that one can come to - a very concerted effort was made to blind humanity to the inevitable outcome - for what purpose? To ensure destruction of life on this planet. What other reason makes sense? Just look at how effective it has been - it is plainly obvious. The Universe does Balance and Equilibrium - neither excess nor deficit. Perhaps humanity would have been wise to follow it's example. |
| odaeio (OP) User ID: 66420861 United Kingdom12/27/2014 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | O.K. I see which side this forum is on. Never mind. Quoting: odaeio Immediately 1 star and a ridiculing comment. I sincerely hope this forum loses the "war", but evil is obviously very powerful - well, it has succeeded so far, but there is a ways to go yet. Your definition of evil isn't exactly what you're saying it is. You say that religion is evil.... well, to a huge extent, it's true. Or more accurately, it's been hijacked for evil purposes. The original purpose for religion was to connect humanity to God. Today it's used to distract people from finding God themselves. Yes and no. If one looks at any religion, it's focus is on "humans", not the rest of life on the planet. It may well be true that somewhere along the line it started out good and was hijacked - and certainly I believe JC was hijacked - but religion appears to have been given by "God" for a specific purpose, and that purpose was not to ensure sustainability within Nature. Not one of the three main religions bangs on about how important Nature is to the survival of humanity - they ALL teach precisely the opposite - that "man" is all that anyone needs to be concerned about, Nature is hardly even mentioned, and when it is, it is portrayed as "inferior", not worth even thinking about. This makes no sense to me, if the survival of humanity was supposedly the aim of the religion? The Universe does Balance and Equilibrium - neither excess nor deficit. Perhaps humanity would have been wise to follow it's example. |
| odaeio (OP) User ID: 66420861 United Kingdom12/27/2014 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | O.K. I see which side this forum is on. Never mind. Quoting: odaeio Immediately 1 star and a ridiculing comment. I sincerely hope this forum loses the "war", but evil is obviously very powerful - well, it has succeeded so far, but there is a ways to go yet. I apologise for this comment - I should take heed of the innocent - I did not do this. I am sorry. The Universe does Balance and Equilibrium - neither excess nor deficit. Perhaps humanity would have been wise to follow it's example. |
| SunLion User ID: 66371926 United States12/27/2014 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes and no. If one looks at any religion, it's focus is on "humans", not the rest of life on the planet. It may well be true that somewhere along the line it started out good and was hijacked - and certainly I believe JC was hijacked - but religion appears to have been given by "God" for a specific purpose, and that purpose was not to ensure sustainability within Nature. Not one of the three main religions bangs on about how important Nature is to the survival of humanity - they ALL teach precisely the opposite - that "man" is all that anyone needs to be concerned about, Nature is hardly even mentioned, and when it is, it is portrayed as "inferior", not worth even thinking about. Quoting: odaeio This makes no sense to me, if the survival of humanity was supposedly the aim of the religion? I certainly agree with everything you said here. But the religions of today take it a step further by dividing human kind into groups.... the rulers and the ruled. There was a time when the Catholic priests would actually face *away* from the congregation during mass, which was the epitome of arrogance. I guess it was too blatant to maintain so they started looking toward the peasant's faces. As for nature.... that's a complicated one. But one thing I do know is that nature is not to be worshiped, but only stewarded and respected. However if you look at the world today, city life is worshiped and nature is regarded as something to be owned, thus why so much of nature is littered and dug up for industrial purposes. How does God feel about the natural world? In my view the "new Heaven and the new earth" symbolizes the melding of both into one. The Dark powers want the two to remain separate yet united in some twisted way. It's in the pentagrams. The right side up pentagram, among other things, represents the natural world ascending into Heaven. The inverted pentagram symbolizes the opposite. So much to discuss. |
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| odaeio (OP) User ID: 66420861 United Kingdom12/27/2014 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes and no. If one looks at any religion, it's focus is on "humans", not the rest of life on the planet. It may well be true that somewhere along the line it started out good and was hijacked - and certainly I believe JC was hijacked - but religion appears to have been given by "God" for a specific purpose, and that purpose was not to ensure sustainability within Nature. Not one of the three main religions bangs on about how important Nature is to the survival of humanity - they ALL teach precisely the opposite - that "man" is all that anyone needs to be concerned about, Nature is hardly even mentioned, and when it is, it is portrayed as "inferior", not worth even thinking about. Quoting: odaeio This makes no sense to me, if the survival of humanity was supposedly the aim of the religion? I certainly agree with everything you said here. But the religions of today take it a step further by dividing human kind into groups.... the rulers and the ruled. There was a time when the Catholic priests would actually face *away* from the congregation during mass, which was the epitome of arrogance. I guess it was too blatant to maintain so they started looking toward the peasant's faces. As for nature.... that's a complicated one. But one thing I do know is that nature is not to be worshiped, but only stewarded and respected. However if you look at the world today, city life is worshiped and nature is regarded as something to be owned, thus why so much of nature is littered and dug up for industrial purposes. How does God feel about the natural world? In my view the "new Heaven and the new earth" symbolizes the melding of both into one. The Dark powers want the two to remain separate yet united in some twisted way. It's in the pentagrams. The right side up pentagram, among other things, represents the natural world ascending into Heaven. The inverted pentagram symbolizes the opposite. So much to discuss. YES, YES and YES again! That is exactly my understanding as well - though I am leaving out the "super-natural" aspect, not that I ridicule it or don't believe it exists, just that I am trying to look at things purely from human logic and reason - keeping both feet on the ground, so to speak. I think there was some truth in the Sumerian records, and I think that the "Annunaki" is "God". I feel that they started the religions, and JC saw through the plan - he saw what the inevitable result would be, and his "mission" was to try and derail it. He failed then, and was subsequently hijacked, but perhaps the "second coming" is nothing physical - just an avalanche of understanding what really happened among humanity? The Universe does Balance and Equilibrium - neither excess nor deficit. Perhaps humanity would have been wise to follow it's example. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66419716 Philippines12/27/2014 08:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your understanding serves you well? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66419716 But everyone has their own opinion (OP) May I remind you that the disputable truth is still that your sitting in front of a monitor right now. All belief is just to stretch the mind. My understanding is based on everything factual I see around me. The question to ask is: "Why does humanity behave the way it does with regard to all other life on this planet? What possible benefit can there be in over-riding every single system that Nature employs? How can even humanity itself avoid extinction, if it continues on this path? Where is the logic or reason?" There is only one conclusion that one can come to - a very concerted effort was made to blind humanity to the inevitable outcome - for what purpose? To ensure destruction of life on this planet. What other reason makes sense? Just look at how effective it has been - it is plainly obvious. Your understanding server you well. Don't worry, if humanity won't, nature will do it's job. John 3:19-20 19"This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. 20"For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21"But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66419716 Philippines12/27/2014 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| odaeio (OP) User ID: 66420861 United Kingdom12/27/2014 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HE REPRESENTED NATURE - HIS "FATHER" WAS NOT "GOD". HIS FATHER WAS ALL LIFE IN THE WORLD. JC says so himself! Quoting: odaeio John 8:23 But he continued, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. So your argument falls on its face. Could this not be part of the "hi-jacking"? The twisting of his words, or even possibly additions - things he did not actually say at all? I see him as a humble person, not a "ruler" or "controller" in any way. He never "looked down" on anyone -or anything - he regarded them as his equals, and tried to show them that this was the natural way of the world, NOT the way the kings and pharisees portrayed it. The Universe does Balance and Equilibrium - neither excess nor deficit. Perhaps humanity would have been wise to follow it's example. |
| odaeio (OP) User ID: 66420861 United Kingdom12/27/2014 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your understanding server you well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66419716 Don't worry, if humanity won't, nature will do it's job. John 3:19-20 19"This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. 20"For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21"But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God." Thank you friend, but what if the religion was "given" by a physical being, or beings, and they attempted, or actually did, portray themselves as "God"? A lie, a deception, in order to hoodwink humanity into believing that what they were doing was "righteous" and "good"? All part of the building a formiddable army against the creation of life on Earth? In Nature there is no "judgement" - only consequence. There is no "rule and obey", only "lead and follow". If an individual chooses to not follow the leader of the pack, there is no "punishment". Sure by not following, the consequences could be disaterous for that individual, or perhaps not, the individual may join another pack, or start thier own. The whole "judgement" business is un-natural, but is heavily taught by the religions. It is just one more aspect of the un-natural teaching of religion, for what purpose? Why teach anything which Nature - or life on this planet - does not support? Could it be that as long as it is not natural, it is against Nature, therefore forwards the ultimate aim of destruction of Nature? The Universe does Balance and Equilibrium - neither excess nor deficit. Perhaps humanity would have been wise to follow it's example. |
