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Dirtyboy User ID: 66435517 United States 12/27/2014 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He probably has problems with the side effects of whatever drug he is taking. He has to work with the doctor on that. Also a psychologist would help if he cooperates. Medication is not always the best answer. At 18 years old he is responsible for his own behavior. It is difficult but you might have to stop helping him out of what he does. Your fears are legitimate but you can't destroy your life by helping someone who is self destructive. GLP probably isn't the best place to find the right answer for your case. Contact NAMI or some other mental health association in your area and find out your options as well as options for your son. You probably can use some counseling yourself if you have been going through this for a while. There are a lot of reasons people have mental heath problems and if you are a parent of someone with these kinds of problems doesn't mean you are/were a bad parent. Dirtyboy Think beyond impossible. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63049622 United States 12/27/2014 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm bi-polar also. The thing is he needs to learn how to control his anger. Don't get me wrong, it's easier said than done. The way my parents handled me, I was in and out of psych wards from the time I was 13-18. Once I turned 18, I got off my meds went to counseling and anger management classes. I won't lie, I do have mood swings constantly. But I have learned to bite my tounge. I also isolate myself. I'll go for a run, or just remove myself from everyone until I can calm down. I work as much as I can so I can tire myself out. The only downside about me isolating myself is that I have become reclusive. I have anxiety now and cannot be around groups of people. Get him a hobby. Make him work more. Make him exercise. Do something. You have no obligation to financially support him anymore. You do however, have an obligation to help and support him emotionally. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64838046 United States 12/27/2014 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my sister was/is for over 25 yrs. Quoting: theyrcoming was on meds forever, as soon as we changed her diet she was totally a different person. All organic, no sugar, very little dairy, very little meat- it's amazing Certain diets are less or anti inflammatory effecting the gut immune system which interacts with the cns. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64838046 United States 12/29/2014 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.news-medical.net] New Findings on Chemical Linked to Bipolar Psychosis [link to psychcentral.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64923981 United States 12/29/2014 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe he is not bipolar? There are many kids and adults that have parasites that cause erratic behaviors. Look it up. Docs always want to give a mind altering drug when it can get another issue. Also get him off of gluten, caisen, and artificial sweetners and dyes. Could be that him not wanting to take his meds is his natural gut instinct for rejecting a chemical that is not helping him. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64838046 United States 12/29/2014 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe he is not bipolar? Quoting: Scramble There are many kids and adults that have parasites that cause erratic behaviors. Look it up. Docs always want to give a mind altering drug when it can get another issue. Also get him off of gluten, caisen, and artificial sweetners and dyes. Could be that him not wanting to take his meds is his natural gut instinct for rejecting a chemical that is not helping him. The article in my last post "Marker for inflammatory bowel disease linked to bipolar disorder" speaks of the likely problem with gluten and casein. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66348984 United States 12/29/2014 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like he has shitty dumbfuck parents and he knows it and hates you. Quoting: Mister Obvious Best thing you could do is keep your stupid fucking opinions about how he's gonna 'go to jail or end up dead' to your fucking self and tell him that he can BE ANYTHING HE WANTS TO BE. He'll be better off when he's 18 and can get the fuck away from you. "and tell him that he can BE ANYTHING HE WANTS TO BE." Which will likely end up being terrorizing everyone on the streets. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65989672 United States 12/29/2014 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think there's much you can do about it now unless you get the cops involved. And back when that behavior was just called "spoiled" you certainly saw less of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66348984 umm.. unless you want him dead you don't bring in the cops... their monkey brains only understand obedience. Obey or die... With that said our entitlement culture and people's aversion towards discomfort of any sort is what leads to these mental issues to a degree... people need to be subject to adversity at a young age and not babied... Genetics and past life karma also play a factor.. some you are going to have a harder time saving... survival of the fittest ensured that these types don't breed... well only the alpha thugs. ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63893493 United States 12/29/2014 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My father is bipolar and has had episodes his entire adult life. It's not something that goes away. Does this run in either you or your spouses family? You made a choice to bring a child into the world, he didn't make that decision. Turning your back on him would be pretty selfish. Have you tried getting a court order for a treatment facility if he's a danger to himself or others? They can be expensive without insurance but might be the best shot. Also a residential group home might offer a better living situation for everyone. Just some thoughts. Also, fish oil and an organic and chemical free diet/lifestyle does wonders for the mind! Does he have any hobbies? Maybe if he took up painting, some kind of music or a martial art he'd have a place to release his agitation. Some of the most brilliantly creative people have been bipolar. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6004966 United States 12/29/2014 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You shouldn't kick him out of the house, he is sick, not misbehaving intentionally. I doubt he even recognizes his own mood swings. So you can't blame him for something that isn't his fault. He needs the right help. He needs meds and intensive therapy so his mood swings can be observed and documented for the psychiatrist to know how to help him. Without help he will obviously be out of control and could hurt himself, hurt others, end up in jail or worse. What meds does he take when he takes them? Has he ever had seizures? Outside of the psychological does he have any other health problems? Your son probably loves being manic, hates being depressed, has insomnia, etc., right? Unfortunately the manic state makes him too much to handle. He needs a more intensive treatment plan. I've been there done that. I have bipolar. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 65257151 United States 12/29/2014 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you to everyone who has offered kind words of support, encouragement, and understanding. I appreciate all of the helpful suggestions and advice you have given. It is good to know that so many other people can relate in some way to what our family is going through. My son was diagnosed as bipolar with high functioning autism in high school. He has a great doctor whom we trust and respect. It took some time, but we finally found a medication that works well for him (when he takes it). He went off his meds once before, and we did have to hospitalize him because he spun out of control (flunking his classes, not sleeping, excessive talking and lots of swearing, suicidal thoughts, hearing voices, and becoming physically agressive) He was doing much better until he went off his meds again. I want everyone to know that we love our son very, very much. We have been loving, kind, responsible and devoted parents. We do everything in our power to help him. But his combination of bipolar and high functioning autism can be a lot to handle. I am thinking about joining a support group for parents of bipolar kids, and I will see about finding him additional counseling/therapy. Meanwhile, I continue to love him. Thank you everyone for caring, and god bless you. |
One-Hitter User ID: 9742238 United States 12/29/2014 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bipolar is tough, coming from a thirty two year old self medicated with cannabis. The meds they give you work fairly good for a time, then they become the perceived problem without fail in my own experience. They are trying all these supposedly promising new class 2 antipsychotics and tend to not give the old standby, lithium, in conjunction. I think this lead to rapid cycling manic episodes for me. Right when his brain is supposed to be developing fully, it is changing in ways im sure its hard for him to articulate. Its a new ballfield for him entirely, try to be a good coach. Giving up on him now, you are right, he probably wouldnt make it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64838046 United States 12/29/2014 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have posted from literature based on experience of dealing with one with similar issues, I took my loved one to a psych, but they could not help in the 90's. Figured out what helps them with a lot of study and implementation. It took time with the regimen and teaching/working with them. 5 New Theories on the Cause of Depression {this one is where I would look most closely into} 5. Brain inflammation. "In his bestseller, Grain Brain, renowned neurologist David Perlmutter, M.D. explains that the cornerstone of all degenerative conditions — including depression, anxiety, and bipolar disorder — is inflammation, and the most prominent stimulators of inflammation in our diet are gluten and sugar. We get into trouble because we can’t feel the inflammation in our brain like we can in other parts of the body, so we rarely link a kind of food we eat with our mood. Perlmutter points out that study after study demonstrates that people who suffer from mood disorders also tend to be gluten-sensitive and vice versa: depression is found in as many as 52 percent of gluten-sensitive individuals." [link to psychcentral.com] Diet, Depression, Inflammation and the Brain [link to bipolarnews.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62786017 United States 12/29/2014 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bipolar is tough, coming from a thirty two year old self medicated with cannabis. The meds they give you work fairly good for a time, then they become the perceived problem without fail in my own experience. They are trying all these supposedly promising new class 2 antipsychotics and tend to not give the old standby, lithium, in conjunction. I think this lead to rapid cycling manic episodes for me. Right when his brain is supposed to be developing fully, it is changing in ways im sure its hard for him to articulate. Its a new ballfield for him entirely, try to be a good coach. Giving up on him now, you are right, he probably wouldnt make it. Quoting: One-Hitter the old standby is dangerous, glad they stopped prescribing it |
Freckle Face User ID: 66441580 United States 12/29/2014 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lobotomize him.... NO.. NO, don't do that. Its old world. Quoting: Osmium76 Teach him cause and effect. TEACH HIM!!!!! I think a lot of the mental problems people have nowadays are directly related to society fostering lifestyles that do not make people take responsibility. The way in which people live today tends to foster dependence on others and technology, instead of teaching consequences and self reliance. The way society works today has led many to believe they are entitlement to act the way they do based on the lifestyle they currently live. Place him in an environment where he has to interact in a way in which he is forced to choose actions that will benefit himself and others (or not), based upon his choices alone. For example, ditch all other electric heat sources in the winter in favor of wood heat. When he complains that its cold, tell him thats because he didn't fix the fire. Make him bring in the wood and fix the fire. Don't do it yourself. (make sure you have heat tape on the water lines.) Buy rice beans and oatmeal and don't provide ANY food that doesn't require prep time. Don't cook for him, instead show him how to do it OR make him do it with you. Don't buy him hot pockets, boxed cereal or pizza. Force him to take responsibility and learn that his choices and actions affect the lifestyle he wants to lead. Set him up in a way in which he must face decisions that relate to his comfort. In this way he MAY consider how his actions affect others including himself. Too many people today are spoiled by modern technology leading to the delusion that it is an entitlement. Entitled living leads to the false concept that one doesn't have to work for what they have or want. Go back to traditional living and many of the issues young people acquire will be solved by teaching them that THEY have to do something about it instead of relying on others to do it for them. If they don't like living the way you set up for them, they just might rise above and better themselves in order to gain the lifestyle they currently take for granted. They may then make choices that are more in line with positive outcomes. Best post I have EVER read!!!!!! Even read it out loud to my family! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64838046 United States 12/29/2014 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lobotomize him.... NO.. NO, don't do that. Its old world. Quoting: Osmium76 Teach him cause and effect. TEACH HIM!!!!! I think a lot of the mental problems people have nowadays are directly related to society fostering lifestyles that do not make people take responsibility. The way in which people live today tends to foster dependence on others and technology, instead of teaching consequences and self reliance. The way society works today has led many to believe they are entitlement to act the way they do based on the lifestyle they currently live. Place him in an environment where he has to interact in a way in which he is forced to choose actions that will benefit himself and others (or not), based upon his choices alone. For example, ditch all other electric heat sources in the winter in favor of wood heat. When he complains that its cold, tell him thats because he didn't fix the fire. Make him bring in the wood and fix the fire. Don't do it yourself. (make sure you have heat tape on the water lines.) Buy rice beans and oatmeal and don't provide ANY food that doesn't require prep time. Don't cook for him, instead show him how to do it OR make him do it with you. Don't buy him hot pockets, boxed cereal or pizza. Force him to take responsibility and learn that his choices and actions affect the lifestyle he wants to lead. Set him up in a way in which he must face decisions that relate to his comfort. In this way he MAY consider how his actions affect others including himself. Too many people today are spoiled by modern technology leading to the delusion that it is an entitlement. Entitled living leads to the false concept that one doesn't have to work for what they have or want. Go back to traditional living and many of the issues young people acquire will be solved by teaching them that THEY have to do something about it instead of relying on others to do it for them. If they don't like living the way you set up for them, they just might rise above and better themselves in order to gain the lifestyle they currently take for granted. They may then make choices that are more in line with positive outcomes. Best post I have EVER read!!!!!! Even read it out loud to my family! Not. |
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Aquariusdude User ID: 48616511 United States 12/29/2014 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neuroinflammation Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64838046 Neuroinflammation and psychiatric illness [link to www.jneuroinflammation.com] Somewhat related in some cases it seeems is this: Focal brain inflammation and autism [link to www.jneuroinflammation.com] It would be interesting to know of medical problems, if any, like migraines. omega 3 is a very good anti inflammatory and countries that get high amounts of omega 3 such as japan have much lower rates of bipolar then the u.s. Also look into gum health.it has been connected to bipolar rates.Also last and not least check his iron levels if he has either iron overload this can cause psychosis and bipolar like symptoms. I hope this helps op. good luck Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. Albert Einstein |
Montgomery User ID: 63233212 United States 12/29/2014 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my sister was/is for over 25 yrs. Quoting: theyrcoming was on meds forever, as soon as we changed her diet she was totally a different person. All organic, no sugar, very little dairy, very little meat- it's amazing I agree. The nutritional value of our food supply is horrible. Organic and additional organic natural supplements. My daughter was diagnosed with ADHD in high school. We put her on the meds. It was a nightmare. We took her off the meds and changed her diet (we found some amazing organic supplements). We hired a tutor and she graduated early and is now in college. AMAZING!!! Although, she is not bipolar, I believe it is a place to start. |
Aquariusdude User ID: 48616511 United States 12/29/2014 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to psychcentral.com] The people of Japan experience one of the lowest bipolar disorder rates in the civilized world. Compared to the 4.4 percent lifetime prevalence rate of bipolar disorder in the U.S., in Japan it’s just 0.07 percent. That’s no typo — that’s a crazy large difference. The Japanese don’t live a less stressful lifestyle than people in the U.S. In fact, in the white-collar world, the stress levels are often higher and the people often work harder. The Japanese people live on a small, crowded island and rely heavily on imports to sustain their way of life. Japanese schools are results-oriented, and students spend an enormous time engaged in study. So what gives? How come the Japanese have such a low rate of bipolar disorder compared with other high-income, developed nations? Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. Albert Einstein |