"I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66460296 United States 12/28/2014 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! Well, let me tell you a little story. I was at work and a patient approached the nurses station screaming loudly that she could not breathe. Screaming it. I was like "Surely you are breathing if you are able to scream." Well technically, yes, she was "breathing". What was happening is that oxygen was not entering her blood anyway. So in spite of the fact that she was taking in air, she was not processing the oxygen. When hooked up to a pulse oxygen machine, it was seen her oxygen level was very low. So a person can be screaming and suffocating. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 63152958 United States 12/28/2014 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! If you have to get pepper sprayed and then have three cops take you down, then you aren't being a nice cooperative fella. When they say you are under arrest, to say OK bye everyone, I'm going to jail now. You don't lose your shit and attack. Quoting: BRIEF Also, if you are yelling or talking then you are breathing...just like with babies, if they are crying they most certainly are breathing...if they go silent, then you can be concerned. Brief have you ever had pepper spray in your face? Did you remain calm? Did you attempt to sit straight up and gasp for air? Did you wipe your snotty nose or tearing eyes while remaining calm? Cops are not judge and jury and when the perp dies in their hands that will be the perception every time. That they took matters into their own hands. He died from to much pepper spray. Lawsuits...cost money. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66435849 United States 12/28/2014 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! If you can talk you can breathe... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66460296 Well, let me tell you a little story. I was at work and a patient approached the nurses station screaming loudly that she could not breathe. Screaming it. I was like "Surely you are breathing if you are able to scream." Well technically, yes, she was "breathing". What was happening is that oxygen was not entering her blood anyway. So in spite of the fact that she was taking in air, she was not processing the oxygen. When hooked up to a pulse oxygen machine, it was seen her oxygen level was very low. So a person can be screaming and suffocating. chances are if they weren't screaming bloody hell, they wouldn't be suffocating |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41552033 United States 12/28/2014 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! If the perp can breathe with cop choking him, then surely cop can duck when perp pulls shiny object from pocket, that has one in a million chance of being a gun. Just duck, dont shoot. the number of times a black citizen actually pulls a gun (or even has one in possession) during interaction with cop is way more than million to one according to FBI. But they shoot, they dont duck? I guess FBI is just NWO tho, sheesh people buy calculator at garage sale |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 63152958 United States 12/28/2014 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! If you can talk you can breathe... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66460296 Well, let me tell you a little story. I was at work and a patient approached the nurses station screaming loudly that she could not breathe. Screaming it. I was like "Surely you are breathing if you are able to scream." Well technically, yes, she was "breathing". What was happening is that oxygen was not entering her blood anyway. So in spite of the fact that she was taking in air, she was not processing the oxygen. When hooked up to a pulse oxygen machine, it was seen her oxygen level was very low. So a person can be screaming and suffocating. Don't bother trying to explain that to these idiots...some of them are so beyond fucking stupid about human anatomy. |
Mugatu User ID: 61526460 United States 12/28/2014 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! I dont a shit if the y was yelling or aggressive...in America police need to use great restraint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 872633 This is becoming a fucking police state and I am sick of giving police authority to take down people and restrain and pepper spray --and murder. We need to take back our government. We need less police and far less government. Pack your own gun, learn how to use it. Just sayin' If this guy was just in the Mall to buy a pair of shoes, this shit wouldn't happen. You need to put the blame where it belongs and take responsibility for your own actions first. Do you know how many times I've been to the Mall and have never been attacked or killed by the cops? ZERO. now ask yourself why that is. You must have that big cop cocksucking smile on your face every time you see a cop. Actually I avoid them just in case they are having a bad day from having to deal with idiots like you all the time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63152958 United States 12/28/2014 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! They would rather laugh and feel good about pigs being judge and jury as long as it's not them...who cares. They flap their jaws about gun rights and the FED than whine like little bitches when they actually need to defend theirselves. Police state - let'em have it. I will call the pigs after the perp is dead and my family and pets are safe from the pigs. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59494919 United States 12/28/2014 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! on the other hand,if he was shoplifting or loitering something minor like that Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59494919 ,mall cops should all go to prison for murder or at the very least manslaughter OK, well it's nice to know that if I steal your shit, you'll insist I walk away free and clear. Fucking nagger. if the guy is going ape shit,call the fucking cops he won't get far stop being an irrational bitch If the perp is going apeshit, subdue him so he is no longer a threat to patrons. Stop being a Democrat. OK, well it's nice to know that if I steal your shit, you'll insist I walk away free and clear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66455511 Fucking nagger. if the guy is going ape shit,call the fucking cops he won't get far stop being an irrational bitch You can detain a person you caught red-handed. And if it was something minor, there would be standard "Please leave the property" before. "He won't get far" is just ridiculous. In case you have forgotten: mall is a private property. So even if you consider those security guys clowns, they make the rules there. you think the mall wants this fucking headache? lets assume it was because it was he stole something,you think the hassle is going to worth it?you think they want a bunch of nig retards protesting every fucking day for a couple bucks worth of shit? don't be stupid,IF he wasn't a threat to anyone they went beyond their duty |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66435506 Poland 12/28/2014 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! Cochran got into a confrontation with officers with IPC International, the private security firm contracted by Northland mall, around 5:30 p.m. Cochran is seen on security video approaching the LA Diamonds counter at the mall and telling the owner working behind the counter, "I want to kill someone today." The medical examiner's office considered physical evidence, toxicology results and videotapes of the confrontation. Tests revealed Cochran was under the influence of marijuana at the time of the incident. [link to www.detroitnews.com] By the way: why are we discussing case as old as 3 months? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66435506 Poland 12/28/2014 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! you think the mall wants this fucking headache? lets assume it was because it was he stole something,you think the hassle is going to worth it?you think they want a bunch of nig retards protesting every fucking day for a couple bucks worth of shit? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59494919 don't be stupid,IF he wasn't a threat to anyone they went beyond their duty My point was they were allowed to do it. And it seems they were. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59494919 United States 12/28/2014 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! you think the mall wants this fucking headache? lets assume it was because it was he stole something,you think the hassle is going to worth it?you think they want a bunch of nig retards protesting every fucking day for a couple bucks worth of shit? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59494919 don't be stupid,IF he wasn't a threat to anyone they went beyond their duty My point was they were allowed to do it. And it seems they were. but anyway,just read what you posted above fuck this guy,he was threatening to kill people completely justified |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63080534 United States 12/28/2014 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! It doesn't even say what he did, but if it wasn't rape or murder, which I'm guessing it wasn't, these three piece of shit mall "cops" should be in jail for murder. Pathetic pus*ies. 3 on 1, and still can't do it right. I'm sick of this sh*t, and I'm sick of all the supporters these murderers get, even on here. Quoting: Really?!?! Right. You get a job walking up to cars or a door with zero knowledge of what is beyond before knocking. Not a fan of abusive cops but people like you are the call 911 pussies who want to armchair quarterback everything. Shit happens fast. Go get yourself in a fight and see just how fast things do happen. Fuck leftard internet retards who have ZERO life experience but are experts on EVERYTHING. Seriously-fuck all of you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66318630 United States 12/28/2014 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! i really don't like mall cops,they're almost all wannabe cop failures and act like huge assholes Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59494919 that being said i find it suspicious that they left out the reason he was pepper sprayed and detained was he trying to assault people? if that's the case,to fucking bad on the other hand,if he was shoplifting or loitering something minor like that ,mall cops should all go to prison for murder or at the very least manslaughter Most states require a certification process to become any kind of security guard. Once certified, it gives the guards certain rights and authorities to act in accordance with state law, including apprehension and detainment of citizens under certain conditions,(just like bail bondsmen). If you don't like that, you should be petitioning your state government for redress of the law, not blaming the people who are acting within it's scope. But then, its so much easier to sit at your computer and pass sweeping judgements based on grainy video than it is to actually exercise your rights and responsibilities as a citizen. That takes too much effort. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45638073 United States 12/28/2014 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! If you have to get pepper sprayed and then have three cops take you down, then you aren't being a nice cooperative fella. When they say you are under arrest, to say OK bye everyone, I'm going to jail now. You don't lose your shit and attack. Quoting: BRIEF Also, if you are yelling or talking then you are breathing...just like with babies, if they are crying they most certainly are breathing...if they go silent, then you can be concerned. Brief have you ever had pepper spray in your face? Did you remain calm? Did you attempt to sit straight up and gasp for air? Did you wipe your snotty nose or tearing eyes while remaining calm? Cops are not judge and jury and when the perp dies in their hands that will be the perception every time. That they took matters into their own hands. He died from to much pepper spray. Lawsuits...cost money. I agree with the above statement. I accidentally sprayed myself with pepper spray and came unfreaking hinged! I could not catch my breathe and went into a panic running around,splashing water in my face, went outside thinking that would help. Can't imagine what it would be like to have people sitting on top of me keeping me from trying to catch my breath! |
BRIEF User ID: 39607259 United States 12/28/2014 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! If you have to get pepper sprayed and then have three cops take you down, then you aren't being a nice cooperative fella. When they say you are under arrest, to say OK bye everyone, I'm going to jail now. You don't lose your shit and attack. Quoting: BRIEF Also, if you are yelling or talking then you are breathing...just like with babies, if they are crying they most certainly are breathing...if they go silent, then you can be concerned. Brief have you ever had pepper spray in your face? Did you remain calm? Did you attempt to sit straight up and gasp for air? Did you wipe your snotty nose or tearing eyes while remaining calm? Cops are not judge and jury and when the perp dies in their hands that will be the perception every time. That they took matters into their own hands. He died from to much pepper spray. Lawsuits...cost money. I don't give them a reason to pepper spray me, retard. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60702613 United States 12/28/2014 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! Even so, I hope he wasn't black because if he was, there will be even more rioting and retaliation murders for sure and that's horrible!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 63152958 United States 12/28/2014 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! If you have to get pepper sprayed and then have three cops take you down, then you aren't being a nice cooperative fella. When they say you are under arrest, to say OK bye everyone, I'm going to jail now. You don't lose your shit and attack. Quoting: BRIEF Also, if you are yelling or talking then you are breathing...just like with babies, if they are crying they most certainly are breathing...if they go silent, then you can be concerned. Brief have you ever had pepper spray in your face? Did you remain calm? Did you attempt to sit straight up and gasp for air? Did you wipe your snotty nose or tearing eyes while remaining calm? Cops are not judge and jury and when the perp dies in their hands that will be the perception every time. That they took matters into their own hands. He died from to much pepper spray. Lawsuits...cost money. I don't give them a reason to pepper spray me, retard. If you have never had it than don't claim how one should react with it on them retard. I thought you were a cop? Just a pig groupie huh? Ha ha ha ha! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66262120 Panama 12/28/2014 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! What crime was committed? Let's ask ourselves that question first before labeling him a criminal. Everyone is assuming at this point. The crime determines the punishment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63585442 Yes, until he has been pronounced guilty by a jury of his peers, he is to be presumed innocent. He has a right to a trial by jury. His sentence is not to be carried out by arresting officers who think they're Judge Dread. I will concede that in this case, it did not look like the security guards had any intent to harm him. I would like to add that as someone who used to suffer from asthma attacks in my youth, I can attest that a person is able to talk in those moments before the windpipe closes up. I have said "I can't breathe" in a panic more than a few times in my youth just prior to not being able to breathe at all. It really is best to heed someone when they say they can't breathe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50121866 United States 12/28/2014 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! If you have to get pepper sprayed and then have three cops take you down, then you aren't being a nice cooperative fella. When they say you are under arrest, to say OK bye everyone, I'm going to jail now. You don't lose your shit and attack. Quoting: BRIEF Also, if you are yelling or talking then you are breathing...just like with babies, if they are crying they most certainly are breathing...if they go silent, then you can be concerned. No one deserves this. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58408507 United States 12/28/2014 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! If you have to get pepper sprayed and then have three cops take you down, then you aren't being a nice cooperative fella. When they say you are under arrest, to say OK bye everyone, I'm going to jail now. You don't lose your shit and attack. Quoting: BRIEF Also, if you are yelling or talking then you are breathing...just like with babies, if they are crying they most certainly are breathing...if they go silent, then you can be concerned. If awfully funny how reality has a tendency to not agree with your opinions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58408507 United States 12/28/2014 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! What crime was committed? Let's ask ourselves that question first before labeling him a criminal. Everyone is assuming at this point. The crime determines the punishment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63585442 Yes, until he has been pronounced guilty by a jury of his peers, he is to be presumed innocent. He has a right to a trial by jury. His sentence is not to be carried out by arresting officers who think they're Judge Dread. I will concede that in this case, it did not look like the security guards had any intent to harm him. I would like to add that as someone who used to suffer from asthma attacks in my youth, I can attest that a person is able to talk in those moments before the windpipe closes up. I have said "I can't breathe" in a panic more than a few times in my youth just prior to not being able to breathe at all. It really is best to heed someone when they say they can't breathe. same here, talking does not necessarily imply that breathing will be taking place in the next 30 seconds. you can feel your airway shutting, this is when you start getting shortness of breathe and start saying I Cant Breathe..... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32930338 United States 12/28/2014 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards! If you cannot make such arrest without killing this guy, you are incompetent and do not deserve a penny of a hard working americans taxes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41947701 Stop paying for shitty service, demand better police! It really is that simple. Cops are performing at minimum wage level. No group can be that incompetent without it trained into them. 6 cops on scene for an 81 year old lady with a stick?? Just walk up and yank the stick out of grannys hand. She was like hulk hogan!! I dont know if im crying or laughing |