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"I Can't Breathe" 25 Year Old Michigan Man Dies After Being Suffocated To Death By 3 Security Guards!

 
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If you can talk you can breathe...

Well, let me tell you a little story. I was at work and a patient approached the nurses station screaming loudly that she could not breathe. Screaming it. I was like "Surely you are breathing if you are able to scream."

Well technically, yes, she was "breathing". What was happening is that oxygen was not entering her blood anyway. So in spite of the fact that she was taking in air, she was not processing the oxygen. When hooked up to a pulse oxygen machine, it was seen her oxygen level was very low.

So a person can be screaming and suffocating.
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was he black? that's all that matters.

if so.. BURN THIS BITCH DOWN
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If you have to get pepper sprayed and then have three cops take you down, then you aren't being a nice cooperative fella. When they say you are under arrest, to say OK bye everyone, I'm going to jail now. You don't lose your shit and attack.

Also, if you are yelling or talking then you are breathing...just like with babies, if they are crying they most certainly are breathing...if they go silent, then you can be concerned.
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Brief have you ever had pepper spray in your face?

Did you remain calm?

Did you attempt to sit straight up and gasp for air?

Did you wipe your snotty nose or tearing eyes while remaining calm?

Cops are not judge and jury and when the perp dies in their hands that will be the perception every time. That they took matters into their own hands.

He died from to much pepper spray. Lawsuits...cost money.
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If you can talk you can breathe...

Well, let me tell you a little story. I was at work and a patient approached the nurses station screaming loudly that she could not breathe. Screaming it. I was like "Surely you are breathing if you are able to scream."

Well technically, yes, she was "breathing". What was happening is that oxygen was not entering her blood anyway. So in spite of the fact that she was taking in air, she was not processing the oxygen. When hooked up to a pulse oxygen machine, it was seen her oxygen level was very low.

So a person can be screaming and suffocating.
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chances are if they weren't screaming bloody hell, they wouldn't be suffocating
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If the perp can breathe with cop choking him, then surely cop can duck when perp pulls shiny object from pocket, that has one in a million chance of being a gun. Just duck, dont shoot.

the number of times a black citizen actually pulls a gun (or even has one in possession) during interaction with cop is way more than million to one according to FBI.

But they shoot, they dont duck?

I guess FBI is just NWO tho, sheesh people buy calculator at garage sale
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There is simply no reason for this kind of shit whether the guy is cooperative or not. If three "trained" guards can't take ONE guy alive then they should be fired and tried in court.
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If you can talk you can breathe...

Well, let me tell you a little story. I was at work and a patient approached the nurses station screaming loudly that she could not breathe. Screaming it. I was like "Surely you are breathing if you are able to scream."

Well technically, yes, she was "breathing". What was happening is that oxygen was not entering her blood anyway. So in spite of the fact that she was taking in air, she was not processing the oxygen. When hooked up to a pulse oxygen machine, it was seen her oxygen level was very low.

So a person can be screaming and suffocating.
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Don't bother trying to explain that to these idiots...some of them are so beyond fucking stupid about human anatomy.
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I dont a shit if the y was yelling or aggressive...in America police need to use great restraint.

This is becoming a fucking police state and I am sick of giving police authority to take down people and restrain and pepper spray --and murder.

We need to take back our government. We need less police and far less government. Pack your own gun, learn how to use it.

Just sayin'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 872633


If this guy was just in the Mall to buy a pair of shoes, this shit wouldn't happen. You need to put the blame where it belongs and take responsibility for your own actions first. Do you know how many times I've been to the Mall and have never been attacked or killed by the cops? ZERO. now ask yourself why that is.
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You must have that big cop cocksucking smile on your face every time you see a cop.
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Actually I avoid them just in case they are having a bad day from having to deal with idiots like you all the time.
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They would rather laugh and feel good about pigs being judge and jury as long as it's not them...who cares.

They flap their jaws about gun rights and the FED than whine like little bitches when they actually need to defend theirselves.

Police state - let'em have it.

I will call the pigs after the perp is dead and my family and pets are safe from the pigs.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28030343


Justified.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28030343


If it's on the news it's fake.
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I agree! They're even using the same line, 'I can't breathe'.
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on the other hand,if he was shoplifting or loitering something minor like that


,mall cops should all go to prison for murder or at the very least manslaughter
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OK, well it's nice to know that if I steal your shit, you'll insist I walk away free and clear.

Fucking nagger.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66455511
no,their job is to secure merchandise and call the police

if the guy is going ape shit,call the fucking cops

he won't get far


stop being an irrational bitch
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59494919


If the perp is going apeshit, subdue him so he is no longer a threat to patrons.

Stop being a Democrat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66455511


OK, well it's nice to know that if I steal your shit, you'll insist I walk away free and clear.

Fucking nagger.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66455511
no,their job is to secure merchandise and call the police

if the guy is going ape shit,call the fucking cops

he won't get far

stop being an irrational bitch
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59494919


You can detain a person you caught red-handed. And if it was something minor, there would be standard "Please leave the property" before.

"He won't get far" is just ridiculous.

In case you have forgotten: mall is a private property. So even if you consider those security guys clowns, they make the rules there.
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you think the mall wants this fucking headache? lets assume it was because it was he stole something,you think the hassle is going to worth it?you think they want a bunch of nig retards protesting every fucking day for a couple bucks worth of shit?

don't be stupid,IF he wasn't a threat to anyone they went beyond their duty
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Cochran got into a confrontation with officers with IPC International, the private security firm contracted by Northland mall, around 5:30 p.m. Cochran is seen on security video approaching the LA Diamonds counter at the mall and telling the owner working behind the counter, "I want to kill someone today."

The medical examiner's office considered physical evidence, toxicology results and videotapes of the confrontation. Tests revealed Cochran was under the influence of marijuana at the time of the incident.

[link to www.detroitnews.com]


By the way: why are we discussing case as old as 3 months?
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you think the mall wants this fucking headache? lets assume it was because it was he stole something,you think the hassle is going to worth it?you think they want a bunch of nig retards protesting every fucking day for a couple bucks worth of shit?

don't be stupid,IF he wasn't a threat to anyone they went beyond their duty
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My point was they were allowed to do it. And it seems they were.
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you think the mall wants this fucking headache? lets assume it was because it was he stole something,you think the hassle is going to worth it?you think they want a bunch of nig retards protesting every fucking day for a couple bucks worth of shit?

don't be stupid,IF he wasn't a threat to anyone they went beyond their duty
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59494919


My point was they were allowed to do it. And it seems they were.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66435506
sometimes you just have to use common sense


but anyway,just read what you posted above


fuck this guy,he was threatening to kill people


completely justified
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It doesn't even say what he did, but if it wasn't rape or murder, which I'm guessing it wasn't, these three piece of shit mall "cops" should be in jail for murder. Pathetic pus*ies. 3 on 1, and still can't do it right. I'm sick of this sh*t, and I'm sick of all the supporters these murderers get, even on here.
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Right. You get a job walking up to cars or a door with zero knowledge of what is beyond before knocking.

Not a fan of abusive cops but people like you are the call 911 pussies who want to armchair quarterback everything.

Shit happens fast. Go get yourself in a fight and see just how fast things do happen.

Fuck leftard internet retards who have ZERO life experience but are experts on EVERYTHING. Seriously-fuck all of you.
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i really don't like mall cops,they're almost all wannabe cop failures and act like huge assholes


that being said

i find it suspicious that they left out the reason he was pepper sprayed and detained


was he trying to assault people? if that's the case,to fucking bad






on the other hand,if he was shoplifting or loitering something minor like that


,mall cops should all go to prison for murder or at the very least manslaughter
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59494919


Most states require a certification process to become any kind of security guard. Once certified, it gives the guards certain rights and authorities to act in accordance with state law, including apprehension and detainment of citizens under certain conditions,(just like bail bondsmen). If you don't like that, you should be petitioning your state government for redress of the law, not blaming the people who are acting within it's scope. But then, its so much easier to sit at your computer and pass sweeping judgements based on grainy video than it is to actually exercise your rights and responsibilities as a citizen. That takes too much effort.
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If you have to get pepper sprayed and then have three cops take you down, then you aren't being a nice cooperative fella. When they say you are under arrest, to say OK bye everyone, I'm going to jail now. You don't lose your shit and attack.

Also, if you are yelling or talking then you are breathing...just like with babies, if they are crying they most certainly are breathing...if they go silent, then you can be concerned.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Brief have you ever had pepper spray in your face?

Did you remain calm?

Did you attempt to sit straight up and gasp for air?

Did you wipe your snotty nose or tearing eyes while remaining calm?

Cops are not judge and jury and when the perp dies in their hands that will be the perception every time. That they took matters into their own hands.

He died from to much pepper spray. Lawsuits...cost money.
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I agree with the above statement. I accidentally sprayed myself with pepper spray and came unfreaking hinged! I could not catch my breathe and went into a panic running around,splashing water in my face, went outside thinking that would help. Can't imagine what it would be like to have people sitting on top of me keeping me from trying to catch my breath!
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If you have to get pepper sprayed and then have three cops take you down, then you aren't being a nice cooperative fella. When they say you are under arrest, to say OK bye everyone, I'm going to jail now. You don't lose your shit and attack.

Also, if you are yelling or talking then you are breathing...just like with babies, if they are crying they most certainly are breathing...if they go silent, then you can be concerned.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Brief have you ever had pepper spray in your face?

Did you remain calm?

Did you attempt to sit straight up and gasp for air?

Did you wipe your snotty nose or tearing eyes while remaining calm?

Cops are not judge and jury and when the perp dies in their hands that will be the perception every time. That they took matters into their own hands.

He died from to much pepper spray. Lawsuits...cost money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63152958


I don't give them a reason to pepper spray me, retard.
I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

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Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP
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I can't see why police have to sit on anyone like this. Cuff his hands and feet and he won't be going anywhere. Sitting on, or piling on people isn't even necessary and people are dying because of it. I find it tragic!!!!

Even so, I hope he wasn't black because if he was, there will be even more rioting and retaliation murders for sure and that's horrible!!!
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What crime was committed? Let's ask ourselves that question first before labeling him a criminal. Everyone is assuming at this point. The crime determines the punishment.
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If you have to get pepper sprayed and then have three cops take you down, then you aren't being a nice cooperative fella. When they say you are under arrest, to say OK bye everyone, I'm going to jail now. You don't lose your shit and attack.

Also, if you are yelling or talking then you are breathing...just like with babies, if they are crying they most certainly are breathing...if they go silent, then you can be concerned.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Brief have you ever had pepper spray in your face?

Did you remain calm?

Did you attempt to sit straight up and gasp for air?

Did you wipe your snotty nose or tearing eyes while remaining calm?

Cops are not judge and jury and when the perp dies in their hands that will be the perception every time. That they took matters into their own hands.

He died from to much pepper spray. Lawsuits...cost money.
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I don't give them a reason to pepper spray me, retard.
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If you have never had it than don't claim how one should react with it on them retard.

I thought you were a cop? Just a pig groupie huh? Ha ha ha ha!
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What crime was committed? Let's ask ourselves that question first before labeling him a criminal. Everyone is assuming at this point. The crime determines the punishment.
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Yes, until he has been pronounced guilty by a jury of his peers, he is to be presumed innocent. He has a right to a trial by jury. His sentence is not to be carried out by arresting officers who think they're Judge Dread. I will concede that in this case, it did not look like the security guards had any intent to harm him.

I would like to add that as someone who used to suffer from asthma attacks in my youth, I can attest that a person is able to talk in those moments before the windpipe closes up. I have said "I can't breathe" in a panic more than a few times in my youth just prior to not being able to breathe at all. It really is best to heed someone when they say they can't breathe.
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If you have to get pepper sprayed and then have three cops take you down, then you aren't being a nice cooperative fella. When they say you are under arrest, to say OK bye everyone, I'm going to jail now. You don't lose your shit and attack.

Also, if you are yelling or talking then you are breathing...just like with babies, if they are crying they most certainly are breathing...if they go silent, then you can be concerned.
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No one deserves this.
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That should get those tossers the death penalty.
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If you have to get pepper sprayed and then have three cops take you down, then you aren't being a nice cooperative fella. When they say you are under arrest, to say OK bye everyone, I'm going to jail now. You don't lose your shit and attack.

Also, if you are yelling or talking then you are breathing...just like with babies, if they are crying they most certainly are breathing...if they go silent, then you can be concerned.
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If awfully funny how reality has a tendency to not agree with your opinions.
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What crime was committed? Let's ask ourselves that question first before labeling him a criminal. Everyone is assuming at this point. The crime determines the punishment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63585442


Yes, until he has been pronounced guilty by a jury of his peers, he is to be presumed innocent. He has a right to a trial by jury. His sentence is not to be carried out by arresting officers who think they're Judge Dread. I will concede that in this case, it did not look like the security guards had any intent to harm him.

I would like to add that as someone who used to suffer from asthma attacks in my youth, I can attest that a person is able to talk in those moments before the windpipe closes up. I have said "I can't breathe" in a panic more than a few times in my youth just prior to not being able to breathe at all. It really is best to heed someone when they say they can't breathe.
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same here, talking does not necessarily imply that breathing will be taking place in the next 30 seconds. you can feel your airway shutting, this is when you start getting shortness of breathe and start saying I Cant Breathe.....
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Another slave murdered
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You have a childish view of freedom.

With freedom comes responsibility.

Have you asked the three year olds what they want for dinner tonight?
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responsibility for what?
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If you cannot make such arrest without killing this guy, you are incompetent and do not deserve a penny of a hard working americans taxes.

Stop paying for shitty service, demand better police!
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It really is that simple. Cops are performing at minimum wage level.

No group can be that incompetent without it trained into them.

6 cops on scene for an 81 year old lady with a stick??
Just walk up and yank the stick out of grannys hand.
She was like hulk hogan!!

I dont know if im crying or laughing





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