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As many ancient sacred texts, there are some interesting things in the Urantia book that state things I always knew, but couldn't find in the Bible.
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Why believe anything they say when they lie about when the inception of the evolutionary process took place.

I mean, it may seem trivial, but even in our propaganda ridden history books, you'll still find exact dates as to when things happened, as it's simple to record.

Mistaking a mass event like the inception of the evolutionary process by 3 billion years it quite a reach.

Also, they seem to be trying to attirbute some sort of extrameaning to the number 6 in that section.

just my 2 cents, post as you please
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and you KNOW when the "evolutionary process took place" you were there?

Why believe anything they say when they lie about when the inception of the evolutionary process took place.

I mean, it may seem trivial, but even in our propaganda ridden history books, you'll still find exact dates as to when things happened, as it's simple to record.

Mistaking a mass event like the inception of the evolutionary process by 3 billion years it quite a reach.

Also, they seem to be trying to attirbute some sort of extrameaning to the number 6 in that section.

just my 2 cents, post as you please
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As far as I know this ain't in the Bible....................


A Six-Year-Old's Reality Check

p1359:3 123:3.2 The first great shock of Jesus' young life occurred when he was not quite six years old. It had seemed to the lad that his father—at least his father and mother together—knew everything.

Imagine, therefore, the surprise of this inquiring child, when he asked his father the cause of a mild earthquake which had just occurred, to hear Joseph say, "My son, I really do not know."

Thus began that long and disconcerting disillusionment in the course of which Jesus found out that his earthly parents were not all-wise and all-knowing.

p1359:4 123:3.3 Joseph's first thought was to tell Jesus that the earthquake had been caused by God, but a moment's reflection admonished him that such an answer would immediately be provocative of further and still more embarrassing inquiries.

Even at an early age it was very difficult to answer Jesus' questions about physical or social phenomena by thoughtlessly telling him that either God or the devil was responsible. In harmony with the prevailing belief of the Jewish people,

Jesus was long willing to accept the doctrine of good spirits and evil spirits as the possible explanation of mental and spiritual phenomena, but he very early became doubtful that such unseen influences were responsible for the physical happenings of the natural world.
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Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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One of my favorites from the Urantia Book........I love this one")




p1368:6 124:2.4 Perhaps his most unusual and outstanding trait was his unwillingness to fight for his rights. Since he was such a well-developed lad for his age,

it seemed strange to his playfellows that he was disinclined to defend himself even from injustice or when subjected to personal abuse.

As it happened, he did not suffer much on account of this trait because of the friendship of Jacob, a neighbor boy, who was one year older.

He was the son of the stone mason, a business associate of Joseph. Jacob was a great admirer of Jesus and made it his business to see that no one was permitted to impose upon Jesus because of his aversion to physical combat.

Several times older and uncouth youths attacked Jesus, relying upon his reputed docility, but they always suffered swift and certain retribution at the hands of his self-appointed champion and ever-ready defender, Jacob the stone mason's son.
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Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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Since I am an artist also, I love this one too!!!


How can you Urantia Book haters, not love this stuff???


Jesus' Artistic Talents Are Thwarted (Age 9)

p1366:4 124:1.3 The most serious trouble as yet to come up at school occurred in late winter when Jesus dared to challenge the chazan regarding the teaching that all images,

pictures, and drawings were idolatrous in nature. Jesus delighted in drawing landscapes as well as in modeling a great variety of objects in potter's clay.

Everything of that sort was strictly forbidden by Jewish law, but up to this time he had managed to disarm his parents' objection to such an extent that they had permitted him to continue in these activities.

p1366:5 124:1.4 But trouble was again stirred up at school when one of the more backward pupils discovered Jesus drawing a charcoal picture of the teacher on the floor of the schoolroom. There it was, plain as day,

and many of the elders had viewed it before the committee went to call on Joseph to demand that something be done to suppress the lawlessness of his eldest son.

And though this was not the first time complaints had come to Joseph and Mary about the doings of their versatile and aggressive child, this was the most serious of all the accusations which had thus far been lodged against him.

Jesus listened to the indictment of his artistic efforts for some time, being seated on a large stone just outside the back door.

He resented their blaming his father for his alleged misdeeds; so in he marched, fearlessly confronting his accusers. The elders were thrown into confusion.

Some were inclined to view the episode humorously, while one or two seemed to think the boy was sacrilegious if not blasphemous. Joseph was nonplused, Mary indignant, but Jesus insisted on being heard. He had his say, courageously defended his viewpoint,

and with consummate self-control announced that he would abide by the decision of his father in this as in all other matters controversial. And the committee of elders departed in silence.

p1367:1 124:1.5 Mary endeavored to influence Joseph to permit Jesus to model in clay at home, provided he promised not to carry on any of these questionable activities at school, but Joseph felt impelled to rule that the rabbinical interpretation of the second commandment should prevail.

And so Jesus no more drew or modeled the likeness of anything from that day as long as he lived in his father's house. But he was unconvinced of the wrong of what he had done, and to give up such a favorite pastime constituted one of the great trials of his young life.
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Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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When I studied it years ago I wrote down all the passages that struck a chord.

no idea where that is now.... agumball
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Todays TruthBook.com quote of the day. Sign up for a daily e-mail of relevant quotes from the blue book. Great way to assmilate in little bits the enormity of this work. Been doing this for over a year now and look forward to these snippets.

Spiritual Heroes


"I admonish you to give up the practice of always quoting the prophets of old and praising the heroes of Israel, and instead aspire to become living prophets of the Most High and spiritual heroes of the coming kingdom."

Jesus, The Urantia Book, Page 1731 (155:6.7)

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Here is a simple overview from Bill Sadler, his father was a big part of the Revelation.....many people seem to think the Urantia Book was channeled, it was not, it had to do with a sleeping subject..(channeling is while a person is awake) However the final book was materialized in the English Language!

A Brief Summary of The Urantia Book
Bill Sadler
9/10/55

This book breaks down into some very interesting sub-sections.

Part I falls into four very clear-cut categories:

A. The Foreword is in a class all by itself. But it is a part of Part I -- it is not outside of Part I.

B. Deity is the beginning of the story of God, and this B group of papers and the Foreword are releated to the A group of papers in Part II, which is the second story of deity, and is further related to the last paper in Part II, which is the third story of deity, and in turn they are related to the third group of papers in Part III.

There are four stories of deity: First, the story that begins in the Foreword, then one in Part I, two in Part II, and one in Part III. In Part I, deity breaks down into 9 papers dealing with personal deity, and one with total deity, the Trinity.

C. Universes. There are four papers that deal with cosmography -- with things, with the geography of the cosmos. In a sense, Paradise is a part of this story, but Paradise is the source, and then, moving outward from Paradise, they discuss its derivations.

D. Personalities. The rest of Part I, 16 papers, is people. There are three groups discussed; Those of origin on Paradise, the Family of the infinite Spirit, and a couple of general papers.

Part I is the most clearly organized of the parts; three groupings in the story itself: Deity, Universes, and Personalities. (You will find among Paradise origin personlaities three levels of God the Sevenfold included in personalities, but this is Absolute deity. We will come to that distinction when we discuss God the Sevenfold.)

Part II, The Local Universe is the shortest of the parts. Its organization is not quite as clear-cut as Part I, but it begins with a discussion of deity, and goes on into a discussion of personalities. Here is the second discussion of Sons of God and also of Ministering Spirits, which was buried in the classification in Part I. "The Local Universe" is a continuation of the story of the universe begun in Part I. Then we have a lonesome paper at the end -- Universal Unity -- the third discussion of deity.

Part III, The History of Urantia. This is the second longest part of the book and breaks down into three rather clear-cut groupings:

A. Historical papers. Twenty eight papers which tell the story of this planet from four different aspects.

B. Religion. Nineteen papers which tell how it came to be, what Melchizedek taught, and what we have now.

C. Deity. There are sixteen papers that are not altogether homogeneous, but they embrace the story of the Triunities, of Thought Adjusters, Seraphic Guardians, the Supreme Being, and the Bestowal paper. They all pertain to deity as such, or to the ministry of deity.

Part IV. The Life and Teachings of Jesus. This is the longest, and it seems to break down into four very clear-cut groupings of papers:

A. The fifteen papers dealing with his mortal career.

B. His public work as the Son of Man, the twenty two papers dealing with the period extending from the baptism to the Mount of Transfiguration.

C. His public work after he openly proclaimed himself as the Son of God, the thirty one papers dealing with the period from the Transfiguration to the Crucifixion.

D. The post-mortal career, the nine papers starting with the resurrection and continuing to the end of the book.
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Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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Too bad you couldn't find that.......I have heard of many people who underline and write all over their Urantia Books in a similar fashion.........

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When I studied it years ago I wrote down all the passages that struck a chord.

no idea where that is now.... agumball
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Do what LOVE would do Always!
(("Divine creator, father, mother, son as one ... If I, my family, relatives and ancestors have offended you, your family, relatives and ancestors in thoughts, words, deeds and actions from the beginning of our creation to the present, we ask your forgiveness ...

Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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I have to agree, there are many today with wisdom well beyond the people of old............they just don't have a book that claims their words are the "word of God"..........live it folks......The Father is just waiting for us to step up and LIVE the life of LOVE!

"I admonish you to give up the practice of always quoting the prophets of old and praising the heroes of Israel, and instead aspire to become living prophets of the Most High and spiritual heroes of the coming kingdom."

Jesus, The Urantia Book, Page 1731 (155:6.7)

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Do what LOVE would do Always!
(("Divine creator, father, mother, son as one ... If I, my family, relatives and ancestors have offended you, your family, relatives and ancestors in thoughts, words, deeds and actions from the beginning of our creation to the present, we ask your forgiveness ...

Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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I know there are many questions about the origin of the Urantia Book, here are some sources.......

[link to truthbook.com]

Personally I think Meredith Sprunger probably has the best idea......since he was a part of the Revelation!
[link to urantiabook.org]

Here is an mp3 with Jesus answering Nathaniel's question about the Scriptures...........

you don't even have to read it, just listen.........you may find answers???
[link to www.truthbook.com]
Do what LOVE would do Always!
(("Divine creator, father, mother, son as one ... If I, my family, relatives and ancestors have offended you, your family, relatives and ancestors in thoughts, words, deeds and actions from the beginning of our creation to the present, we ask your forgiveness ...

Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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No doubt an inspired book,but I couldn't read it,because of the overwhelming number of pages and because of the rather silly names like Satania and names reminding me of detergents and soft drinks.These don't ring true to me and it's way too organized for me,all these hiërarchies and their functions,reminds me of the Alice Baily teachings,from the same period?Gives me the "control- freak"shivers,feels like I'm suffocating.Very likely my own inability to process all that channeled cut-and -dry info,with no room for one's own unique spiritual quest.Whatever...
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I can understand") It is not for everyone, it sometimes takes people decades after knowing of it before they are ready!

It is not channeled though!

No doubt an inspired book,but I couldn't read it,because of the overwhelming number of pages and because of the rather silly names like Satania and names reminding me of detergents and soft drinks.These don't ring true to me and it's way too organized for me,all these hiërarchies and their functions,reminds me of the Alice Baily teachings,from the same period?Gives me the "control- freak"shivers,feels like I'm suffocating.Very likely my own inability to process all that channeled cut-and -dry info,with no room for one's own unique spiritual quest.Whatever...
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Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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THE TWELVE APOSTLES
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It is an eloquent testimony to the charm and righteousness of Jesus' earth life that, although he repeatedly dashed to pieces the hopes of his apostles and tore to shreds their every ambition for personal exaltation, only one deserted him.

The apostles learned from Jesus about the kingdom of heaven, and Jesus learned much from them about the kingdom of men, human nature as it lives on Urantia and on the other evolutionary worlds of time and space.

These twelve men represented many different types of human temperament, and they had not been made alike by schooling.

Many of these Galilean fishermen carried heavy strains of gentile blood as a result of the forcible conversion of the gentile population of Galilee one hundred years previously.

Do not make the mistake of regarding the apostles as being altogether ignorant and unlearned. All of them, except the Alpheus twins, were graduates of the synagogue schools,

having been thoroughly trained in the Hebrew scriptures and in much of the current knowledge of that day. Seven were graduates of the Capernaum synagogue schools, and there were no better Jewish schools in all Galilee.
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Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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THE CRUCIFIXION
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The soldiers first bound the Master's arms with cords to the crossbeam, and then they nailed his hands to the wood.

When they had hoisted this crossbeam up on the post, and after they had nailed it securely to the upright timber of the cross, they bound and nailed his feet to the wood, using one long nail to penetrate both feet.

The upright timber had a large peg, inserted at the proper height, which served as a sort of saddle for supporting the body weight.

The cross was not high, the Master's feet being only about three feet from the ground. He was therefore able to hear all that was said of him in derision and could plainly see the expression on the faces of all those who so thoughtlessly mocked him.

And also could those present easily hear all that Jesus said during these hours of lingering torture and slow death.
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Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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I think most people need to know the deal about these things.............


THE RESURRECTION
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At ten minutes past three o'clock, as the resurrected Jesus fraternized with the assembled morontia personalities from the seven mansion worlds of Satania, the chief of archangels¯¯the angels of the resurrection¯¯approached Gabriel and asked for the mortal body of Jesus.

Said the chief of the archangels: "We may not participate in the morontia resurrection of the bestowal experience of Michael our sovereign, but we would have his mortal remains put in our custody for immediate dissolution.

We do not propose to employ our technique of dematerialization; we merely wish to invoke the process of accelerated time.

It is enough that we have seen the Sovereign live and die on Urantia; the hosts of heaven would be spared the memory of enduring the sight of the slow decay of the human form of the Creator and Upholder of a universe.

In the name of the celestial intelligences of all Nebadon, I ask for a mandate giving me the custody of the mortal body of Jesus of Nazareth and empowering us to proceed with its immediate dissolution."
Do what LOVE would do Always!
(("Divine creator, father, mother, son as one ... If I, my family, relatives and ancestors have offended you, your family, relatives and ancestors in thoughts, words, deeds and actions from the beginning of our creation to the present, we ask your forgiveness ...

Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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No comments? I am surprised!
Hopefully a few people have found something of interest in these posts?
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For all of you that are afraid of what may be coming.......or may not be coming!


THE YOUNG MAN WHO WAS AFRAID

While they were up in the mountains, Jesus had a long talk with a young man who was fearful and downcast. Failing to derive comfort and courage from association with his fellows,

this youth had sought the solitude of the hills; he had grown up with a feeling of helplessness and inferiority. These natural tendencies had been augmented by numerous difficult circumstances which the lad had encountered as he grew up,

notably, the loss of his father when he was twelve years of age. As they met, Jesus said: "Greetings, my friend! why so downcast on such a beautiful day? If something has happened to distress you, perhaps I can in some manner assist you.

At any rate it affords me real pleasure to proffer my services."
p1437:2 130:6.2 The young man was disinclined to talk, and so Jesus made a second approach to his soul, saying: "I understand you come up in these hills to get away from folks; so,

of course, you do not want to talk with me, but I would like to know whether you are familiar with these hills; do you know the direction of the trails? and, perchance, could you inform me as to the best route to Phenix?" Now this youth was very familiar with these mountains,

and he really became much interested in telling Jesus the way to Phenix, so much so that he marked out all the trails on the ground and fully explained every detail. But he was startled and made curious when Jesus, after saying good-bye and making as if he were taking leave,

suddenly turned to him, saying: "I well know you wish to be left alone with your disconsolation; but it would be neither kind nor fair for me to receive such generous help from you as to how best to find my way to Phenix and then unthinkingly to go away from you without making the least effort to answer your appealing request for help and guidance regarding the best route to the goal of destiny which you seek in your heart while you tarry here on the mountainside.

As you so well know the trails to Phenix, having traversed them many times, so do I well know the way to the city of your disappointed hopes and thwarted ambitions. And since you have asked me for help, I will not disappoint you." The youth was almost overcome, but he managed to stammer out, "But—I did not ask you for anything—" And Jesus,

laying a gentle hand on his shoulder, said: "No, son, not with words but with longing looks did you appeal to my heart. My boy, to one who loves his fellows there is an eloquent appeal for help in your countenance of discouragement and despair. Sit down with me while I tell you of the service trails and happiness highways which lead from the sorrows of self to the joys of loving activities in the brotherhood of men and in the service of the God of heaven."

By this time the young man very much desired to talk with Jesus, and he knelt at his feet imploring Jesus to help him, to show him the way of escape from his world of personal sorrow and defeat. Said Jesus:

"My friend, arise! Stand up like a man! You may be surrounded with small enemies and be retarded by many obstacles, but the big things and the real things of this world and the universe are on your side.

The sun rises every morning to salute you just as it does the most powerful and prosperous man on earth. Look—you have a strong body and powerful muscles—your physical equipment is better than the average.

Of course, it is just about useless while you sit out here on the mountainside and grieve over your misfortunes, real and fancied. But you could do great things with your body if you would hasten off to where great things are waiting to be done.

You are trying to run away from your unhappy self, but it cannot be done. You and your problems of living are real; you cannot escape them as long as you live. But look again, your mind is clear and capable. Your strong body has an intelligent mind to direct it.

Set your mind at work to solve its problems; teach your intellect to work for you; refuse longer to be dominated by fear like an unthinking animal. Your mind should be your courageous ally in the solution of your life problems rather than your being,

as you have been, its abject fear-slave and the bond servant of depression and defeat. But most valuable of all, your potential of real achievement is the spirit which lives within you,

and which will stimulate and inspire your mind to control itself and activate the body if you will release it from the fetters of fear and thus enable your spiritual nature to begin your deliverance from the evils of inaction by the power-presence of living faith.

And then, forthwith, will this faith vanquish fear of men by the compelling presence of that new and all-dominating love of your fellows which will so soon fill your soul to overflowing because of the consciousness which has been born in your heart that you are a child of God.

"This day, my son, you are to be reborn, re-established as a man of faith, courage, and devoted service to man, for God's sake. And when you become so readjusted to life within yourself, you become likewise readjusted to the universe; you have been born again—born of the spirit—and henceforth will your whole life become one of victorious accomplishment.

Trouble will invigorate you; disappointment will spur you on; difficulties will challenge you; and obstacles will stimulate you. Arise, young man!

Say farewell to the life of cringing fear and fleeing cowardice. Hasten back to duty and live your life in the flesh as a son of God, a mortal dedicated to the ennobling service of man on earth and destined to the superb and eternal service of God in eternity."


And this youth, Fortune, subsequently became the leader of the Christians in Crete and the close associate of Titus in his labors for the uplift of the Cretan believers.
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Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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Off Topic;

I miss the winds of Waikoloa,
The snows of Mauna Kea,
The beach of Makalawaena,
The whitecaps off Upolu Point,
The waves off Keokea Park in North Kohala,
The sharks at Kawaihae Harbor,
The whales off Pinetree.
The Big Island is a magical place...
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Wind,if Urantia is not channeled material,how has it been written? I mean ,who wrote it and how did he/she achieve this opus magnum,without relying on some source of inspiration?(channeling mode).I do have "Oasphe",the kosmon bible,also difficult to place in our normal,human context,I find.
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Aloha Common Sense

To be honest there is no one alive that
knows exactly how.

What I have read is that the Forum got together and asked questions and recieved answers from "Celestial Beings" via "The Sleeping Subject" this went on for a couple of years at least.

After this time of questions the Urantia Papers were found in written form "materialized" in English.

After this Chrissy typed the whole thing!

One point I would like to make, channeling is when someone goes into a trance correct? The Sleeping Subject was used as a "tool" by the Midwayers while asleep.........not in a trance!!!

Being in a trance allows "control" from others that you may not want to control you, by going into a trance you have given you "will" to be controled, while in a deep sleep, you have NOT given your will over, however your physical body can be used as a "tool" but NOT your mind!

Hope this helps")

Here is a link to the Moyers Papers (Ernest Moyer) he is an expert on the Urantia Book, maybe he can explain it to you better than me")
[link to www.world-destiny.org]

Wind,if Urantia is not channeled material,how has it been written? I mean ,who wrote it and how did he/she achieve this opus magnum,without relying on some source of inspiration?(channeling mode).I do have "Oasphe",the kosmon bible,also difficult to place in our normal,human context,I find.
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Do what LOVE would do Always!
(("Divine creator, father, mother, son as one ... If I, my family, relatives and ancestors have offended you, your family, relatives and ancestors in thoughts, words, deeds and actions from the beginning of our creation to the present, we ask your forgiveness ...

Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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double post sorry
Do what LOVE would do Always!
(("Divine creator, father, mother, son as one ... If I, my family, relatives and ancestors have offended you, your family, relatives and ancestors in thoughts, words, deeds and actions from the beginning of our creation to the present, we ask your forgiveness ...

Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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Aloha Goo Goo

I am sure it is hard to have Hawai'i on your mind")

ua mau ke ea o ka aina i ka pono o Hawai'i

Off Topic;

I miss the winds of Waikoloa,
The snows of Mauna Kea,
The beach of Makalawaena,
The whitecaps off Upolu Point,
The waves off Keokea Park in North Kohala,
The sharks at Kawaihae Harbor,
The whales off Pinetree.
The Big Island is a magical place...
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Do what LOVE would do Always!
(("Divine creator, father, mother, son as one ... If I, my family, relatives and ancestors have offended you, your family, relatives and ancestors in thoughts, words, deeds and actions from the beginning of our creation to the present, we ask your forgiveness ...

Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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John asked Jesus, "Master, what is the kingdom of heaven?" And Jesus answered: "The kingdom of heaven consists in these three essentials:

first, recognition of the fact of the sovereignty of God;

second, belief in the truth of sonship with God;

and third, faith in the effectiveness of the supreme human desire to do the will of God --

to be like God. And this is the good news of the gospel: that by faith every mortal may have all these essentials of salvation."
Do what LOVE would do Always!
(("Divine creator, father, mother, son as one ... If I, my family, relatives and ancestors have offended you, your family, relatives and ancestors in thoughts, words, deeds and actions from the beginning of our creation to the present, we ask your forgiveness ...

Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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What would LOVE do?

When you wake up and look in the mirror, do you like the person you see?

Do you admire the person you see?

If someone watched you for a day, would they admire you?

Will you stand up for what is right, even if it is painful?

Do you live in a way that is helpful to others?

Do you set a good example for kids?

When you die will people remember how good you were?


Would your MOM be proud of you......not the BS you, but the REAL you?
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And you thought Light was the fastest thing!

You were wrong!

[link to www.truthbook.com]

The worlds teem with angels and men and other highly personal beings, but they are handicapped by time and space:

The limit of velocity for most nonenseraphimed beings is 186,280 miles of your world per second of your time;

the midway creatures and certain others can, often do, attain double velocity—372,560 miles per second—while the seraphim and others can traverse space at triple velocity, about 558,840 miles per second.

There are, however, no transit or messenger personalities who function between the instantaneous velocities of the gravity traversers and the comparatively slow speeds of the seraphim, except the Solitary Messengers.


Solitary Messengers are, therefore, generally used for dispatch and service in those situations where personality is essential to the achievement of the assignment, and where it is desired to avoid the loss of time which would be occasioned by the sending of any other readily available type of personal messenger.

They are the only definitely personalized beings who can synchronize with the combined universal currents of the grand universe.

Their velocity in traversing space is variable, depending on a great variety of interfering influences, but the record shows that on the journey to fulfill this mission my associate messenger proceeded at the rate of 841,621,642,000 of your miles per second of your time.


It is wholly beyond my ability to explain to the material type of mind how a spirit can be a real person and at the same time traverse space at such tremendous velocities. But these very Solitary Messengers actually come to, and go from, Urantia at these incomprehensible speeds;

indeed, the whole economy of universal administration would be largely deprived of its personal element were this not a fact.
Do what LOVE would do Always!
(("Divine creator, father, mother, son as one ... If I, my family, relatives and ancestors have offended you, your family, relatives and ancestors in thoughts, words, deeds and actions from the beginning of our creation to the present, we ask your forgiveness ...

Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


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not a quote but true anyway

Native American Wisdom


You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is made of the ashes of your grandfathers. So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.

Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.

Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth. If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. This we know: The earth does not belong to man; man belongs to the earth. This we know.

All things are connected like the blood that unites one family. All things are connected.

Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth. Man did not weave the web of life: he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself.
Do what LOVE would do Always!
(("Divine creator, father, mother, son as one ... If I, my family, relatives and ancestors have offended you, your family, relatives and ancestors in thoughts, words, deeds and actions from the beginning of our creation to the present, we ask your forgiveness ...

Let this cleanse, purify, release, cut all the negative memories, blocks, energies and vibrations and transmute these unwanted energies to pure light ... And it is done."


Morrnah Nalamaku Simeona, Kahuna
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Actually IMO,all info not obtained through the five senses and logical deduction classifies as a form of channeling(trance or no trance),including inspiration.However,persons with an expanded awareness..., I'd regard their info as originating from direct observations,experiences,not so much as channeled info(mystics and clairvoyants).There is no discrepancy between expected ability to access and distribute info and their daily awareness.By the way,do you about "Oashe",the kosmon bible I mentioned before?
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One thing I like about the Oahspe is it has the lives and teachings of many prophets, not just 'Jesus' (Joshu). And it gives a feeling of actual history of the earth.

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