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THE FACTS CONFIRM THE APOCALYPSE AS IS IT ANALYZED IN THIS BLOG WITH A FLAWLESS CONSISTENCY. Before answering the question of the title, let see some points.

Whenever some details annoy some people, they relegate them to mere ramblings 'needed to be put in the context of the time'. AND? HOW DOES THE CONTEXT OF THAT TIME EXPLAIN SOME PASSAGES APPARENTLY ABSTRUSE IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION?

Suddenly, there is no one to explain. And it is my experience talking. Things are thrown in the trash of the 'uninteresting details' that Jesus asks specifically in chapter 22 of the Apocalypse not to remove or add to the prophecies.

BUT NOBODY EXPLAINS WHY JOHN HAS GIVEN THESE SPECIFIC INFORMATION IF THEY DO NOT CORRESPOND TO ANYTHING. Putting things aside seems to be the favorite sport of 'those who know everything in advance'.

You can reject the Apocalypse on the pretext not to be interested. But the main reason often lies in the complexity of this Book of Revelation. But once you have all the keys it is much simpler and understandable: JOHN EXPERIENCED A MYSTICAL CONTACT.

This blog is 'based' on the Bible in which it is question of clouds and angels. Of the 74 verses evoking the paranormal clouds only very few verses are in the Apocalypse. I mention the Apocalypse because the debate is centered on the return of Christ. The Apocalypse is the central book that details the conditions of this return in several stages: natural birth, spiritual birth (these two phases are now completed) and the Ministry of Christ who will come in a few years.

It is written that the Christ comes on / in / with a cloud . My purpose is 1) to show that the paranormal clouds are alien spacecrafts, 2) to show that Jesus Christ returns in an alien ship and 3) Prince George is Christ and his parents the Two Witnesses.

First, the flying saucers are precisely mentioned in the Old and the New Testament. Hence this blog. Humans UFO could / should exist only by means of an adequate terrestrial technology, WELL AFTER THE FIRST ALIEN UFO. The Apocalypse it clear about what happens to the Great Multitude in white robes. It will be nourished and protected by God while the chaos will reign on Earth. It will be therefore on another planet. False prophets are everywhere. This is not to say that all those who prophesy are false prophets. But why would the Prince George be Christ?

Take a step back and put everything in the ad hoc context.

Let review a little the Old Testament. In the chapters on Kings, God grants to King David a line of kings after him to represent Him on earth. His son is Solomon. This is also King Solomon who asked his people 666 talents of gold every year to satisfy its needs and requirements. Doing this, Solomon stayed away from God. This case is at the heart of the Number of the Beast.

This Beast is actually the second beast of the Apocalypse. If the first is the WORLD POLITICAL POWER, through the symbol of the British Royalty, via the Red Dragon (Princes of Wales), the second is the WORLD FINANCIAL POWER, through the City of London.

In the Apocalypse, John talks about the mysterious Babylon. And even the Great Prostitute. This is a single symbolic person: the City of London.

The City is a place apart. British kings and queens can NOT get there without being invited (the Apocalypse refers to it in his own way). It is the financial heart of the world as the leading financial center in the world (Stock Exchange, banks and insurance). The City of London, BABYLON-DON, the famous Mother of all prostitutes, that is to say, of all the world stock exchanges, was just the very first implantation of London in the first century. The City was thus baby London, hence BABYLON-DON.

Let us return to the Kings. God also promised to David that his lineage would not miss anything, that it would live in comfort, and that it will last forever!

First, let us see what are the present monarchies in which the seed of David could be found since it is supposed to rule FOREVER.

Here is the list of the current sovereign monarchs:

In green, the islamic monarchies. In purple, the asian religions. In orange, the christian monarchies. We can easily reckon that Christ will return in a christian monarchy.

Islamic countries:

Bahrain
Brunei
Jordan
Kuwait
Malaysia
Morocco
Oman
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates



Asian countries:

Bhutan
Cambodia
Japan
Thailand



Too small christian countries to be a powerful kingdom for Christ:

Andorra
Lesotho
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Monaco
Swaziland
Tonga
Vatican City



Christian countries that might challenge the British monarchy:

Belgium (12 million people). NO MALE CHILD DIRECT HEIR. Saxe-Coburg-Gotha like the British monarchy. First male is 11 and second in line.
Denmark (6 million people). NO DIRECT MALE CHILD HEIR. Heir apparent male is 46.
Netherlands (18 million people). NO MALE CHILD DIRECT HEIR.
Norway (5 million people). NO MALE CHILD DIRECT HEIR. Heir apparent male is 41. Second male in line is 9 but third in line.
Spain (47 million people). NO MALE CHILD DIRECT HEIR.
Sweden (10 million people). NO MALE CHILD DIRECT HEIR except a third in line male of 35.

From these six countries which could have the seed of David NONE has a male direct heir young enough to be a child



Christian countries under THE SAME BRITISH MONARCH WITH A MALE CHILD AS A DIRECT HEIR:

Antigua and Barbuda
Australia
Bahamas
Barbados
Belize
Canada
Grenada
Jamaica
New Zealand
Papua New Guinea
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Solomon Islands
Tuvalu
United Kingdom



THAT SERIES OF KINGDOMS UNDER ONE KINGDOM RESEMBLES A COMMUNITY OF NATIONS FROM THE LINEAGE OD KING DAVID!


The promise to David

The promise to David is the third of the great promises made by God upon which all further revelations are based. This promise is essential if one it to understand the Bible and especially if one is to appreciate what the Bible teaches about Jesus Christ.


Background to David’s life


David was a divinely nominated King of Israel and described in the scriptures as “a man after God’s own heart” (1 Samuel 13:14). Although he was not perfect he had an amazing faith in God and desired to see God glorified above all else.

David, by conquest had extended the Kingdom of Israel to it’s greatest extent and God had given King David “rest from his enemies” and had made his house to prosper. In light of this David wanted to build a temple for the worship of God.

In response to this God told him, through the prophet Nathan that He would not allow him to build the temple but his son, Solomon would. However God promised David that He would actually build David a house and this promise, along with it’s details forms another foundation promise of the gospel. The most significant part of this promise is that the seed of David would sit upon his throne, as king, ruling over an everlasting Kingdom. This is in fact the further unfolding of a previous promise God gave to Abraham:

“In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:” Genesis 15-18

The promised seed (descendant) therefore is connected with the land of Israel.


Why is this important?


If you study what the Bible says about Jesus, you will note that there are lots of references to King David and the promises made to him. Jesus is to fulfill these promises and therefore to understand them is to appreciate what Gods purpose through Jesus Christs is. Consider the following:

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.” Isaiah 9:6-7

“And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will. Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:” Acts 13:22-23

“I Jesus have sent my angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.” Revelation 22:16


What was promised to David?

The promise to David is recorded in 2 Samuel 7. It’s different aspects have been defined below:

Israel, God’s chosen people, would eventually settle and would be safe (this is yet to be fulfilled!) – 2 Samuel 7:10

The promised seed (see promises to Abraham and the promise in Eden) would be a decendant of David – 2 Samuel 7:12

This seed (or decendant) would build a house for God – 2 Samuel 7:13

God, as well as David would be the seed’s Father – he would be the “Son of God” – 2 Samuel 7:14

God’s mercy would remain with David’s seed – 2 Samuel 7:14-15

David’s throne an Kingdom is to be established FOREVER – 2 Samuel 7:13-16

The throne and the seed would be done “before” David (e.g. in front of him)
– 2 Samuel 7:26

What does this mean?


This covenant has not yet been fulfilled. Jesus was the seed (decendant) of David who was to come. Here are two references in the gospels to prove this:

“He (Jesus) shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end”. Luke 1:32-33

“The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham”.
Matthew 1:1

So Christ then was the descendant (or seed) of David but also he was the son of God as was promised to David:

“And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God”. Luke 1:35

The promise stated that David would see his descendant (Christ) sitting on his throne, the throne of David in Jerusalem and that his Kingdom would continue forever. This is to happen in the future when Jesus Christ returns to the earth to establish that kingdom.

“And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again… And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David“. Acts 13:32-34

David himself realized that this covenant would be fulfilled through one greater than himself and he spake of this in one of his Psalms which the apostle Paul later picks up on:

“My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David. His seed shall endure for ever, and his throne as the sun before me. It shall be established for ever as the moon, and as a faithful witness in heaven”. Psalm 89:34-37

“THE LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.” Psalm 132:11

“THE LORD (God) said unto my Lord (Davids seed), Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool”. Psalm 110:1

“Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ”. Acts 2:29-36

Clearly then, the Bible teaches that David must be resurrected, that Jesus Christ must come back to the earth to sit upon Davids and set up a Kingdom which will last forever. This will be a re-establishment of the Kingdom of God (over which David ruled). God told the last king, King Zedekiah, this:

“Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown… I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it (The Kingdom of Israel): and it shall be no more, until he (Jesus Christ) come whose right it is; and I will give it him”. Ezekiel 21:26-27

So this Kingdom then is to be re-established in the future. The one who is to come of whom God will give the Kingdom is Jesus Christ, the descendant of David and son of God.

“Behold, the days come, saith THE LORD, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah. In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness. For thus saith THE LORD; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel”. Jeremiah 33:14-17

In Hebrews 11 we have a list of faithful followers of God. David is mentioned in verse 32. We also read in that chapter the following:

“And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.” Hebrews 11:39-40

So then these promises are in the future and we can be associated with them by belief in them, being baptized and following a faithful life. Peter tells us that by having a knowledge of these things that there have been:

“…given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust”. 2 Peter 1:4

Author: M. Davies, Nottingham, March 2009


Also, God declared that the tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim would be A Nation respectively, and a community of Nations. The two tribes would be asked to dominate the world. And Ephraim is the first son through whom God would send the Anointed. Manasseh is the USA (A Nation). Ephraim is the United Kingdom and ... the Common Wealth (Community of Nations).

So, from the beginning, God planned that Christ would return in the British royal family. There is a movement stating that: the Anglo-Israelism. Some of their claims are misleading, but the basics are solid.

The "British" word is supposed to be derived from two Hebrew words "Berit" and "Ish" to be understood as "men of the covenant." Remember that the Apocalypse is full of kings that can be easily distinguished from other characters. The very notion of royalty is the representation of God on Earth. The king was both the political leader and spiritual leader. There was no Pope.


Promises to Ephraim and Manasseh

THE promises of Israel's greatness were to be fulfilled in the "last days", that is, during the Christian era. These promises apply precisely to the Anglo-Saxon-Celtic people, and can be applied to no other people upon the earth.

""And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days""(GENESIS 49:1).

Joseph was the birthright tribe, and Joseph's two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, were formed into two separate tribes, which became the leaders of the ten-tribed House of Israel; Ephraim taking the more prominent position. The promise given to Joseph in GENESIS 49:22, to be fulfilled in the last days, was: ""Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall ..."".

The promise continues in verse 24: ""But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob ..."". This has been certainly true of the Anglo-Saxon people in this age, as they have spread throughout the earth and have been helped by the providence of God as has no other people.


These two leading tribes, Ephraim and Manasseh, were to become the heads of the two great sections into which Israel was to be divided. As we have already seen, Israel was to become a nation and a company of nations. In GENESIS 48:19, Manasseh was told that he was to become a great people, or nation. This prophecy finds its fulfillment in these last days in the United States of America. Ephraim, on the other hand, was told that he would become a multitude of nations. This prophecy finds its fulfillment in the other great section of Anglo-Saxondom, the company of nations of the British Commonwealth.

What this royalty has become today is precisely the reason for the return of Christ in the royal family, just as Jesus Christ came on Earth 2000 years ago as an heir to the throne of Israel in the midst of a culture whose behavior betrayed God himself! History repeats itself, but the outcome will be very different. Christ does not return to be crucified but to take the elect and for the Last Judgment. All this has nothing to do with the reptilians, but with a secular tradition, and even divine.
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Well, your multi-coloured texts are very nice, and all that, but unfortunately it's wasted on me, cos I ain't reading it. Took me almost 40 minutes just to scroll to the bottom and reach the reply button.

Is this from B.I.W.F, by any chance?
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Royal families give us the creeps.

The Lord will come in a cloud.

His glory will be concealed, but his word will come upon you suddenly.

And make war.
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Cloud was a word for hierarchy
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Wow, nice effort, but you are over-thinking it all IMO.
You're entitled to your take on it all of course, not saying otherwise yet you're obviously intrigued by knowledge.

Apocalypse means revealing of knowledge.

Christ returns, christ is a cloud you say? Christ perhaps could be ether? We've had solid, gas, water (age of pisces/christianity),...elements...christ is ether.

The interpretations of many verses of the bible are false due to the personifications of the celestial universal science - of which the ancients knew and understood.
Myths had to be created. For power, confusion, tyranny...the list is endless.

These myths from all different cultures talk of a jesus figure, yet the jesus they all talk of - spans thousands and thousands of years of myths - even before the christians date of jesus being here on earth.
Jesus is symbolic. The actions described of these figures is symbolic.
It's all there to see for those with the wish to see.
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Cloud was a word for hierarchy
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As in a high council
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Am I expected to read that entire wall of text? The first few paragraphs sum it up nicely I would say. No need to keep repeating the same thing, only with differently colored font (which is highly annoying and does nothing to project your message further.)

Now with that out of the way, let me respond.

This is retarded, and your reading comprehension is terrible. Being able to read, and reading comprehension are two very different things.
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and god said, let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years

This is God's glory revealed.
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What about in american hierarchy?

lol just puttin random stuff together but

The House of Solomon is the former ruling Imperial House of the Ethiopian Empire. Its members claim patrilineal descent from Solomon of Israel and the Queen of Sheba

obamas father is from kenya which is pretty damn near ethiopia.
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Interesting theory about George being Christ.

The Royal Family has come up a lot this week. Someone else posted (and I agree, mostly) that the reason the royal bloodline is so tightly controlled is so that their spirits can continuously incarnate into the family, with none being "lost". This would be especially important if it was the Holy bloodline, not just a royal one.

Also, CBC has been playing documentaries on the Queen/William/Kate/George/Harry all week. This is pure speculation on my part, but I think they know something. Perhaps the queen isn't well and they are "prepping" us for her death by inundating us with the Royals. I also think Charles will step aside and let William take the throne immediately.
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The more you exalt yourselves, the more surely you will be thrown down by the word.

and these are the kings that reigned in the land of edom, before there reigned any king over the children of israel
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Well, your multi-coloured texts are very nice, and all that, but unfortunately it's wasted on me, cos I ain't reading it. Took me almost 40 minutes just to scroll to the bottom and reach the reply button.

Is this from B.I.W.F, by any chance?
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Do you know what I have always found strange is how Roman Catholics view England (Britain), The Roman Catholic exceptionalism is that England (Britain) was the gift God gave to Mary.. Even popes have referred to England with the nickname "Marys Dowery"
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what about Americans
dont we count too
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what about Americans
dont we count too
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You have your own exceptionalism, Putin said so... the English (British) one has always revolved around the Church, with the RC Church seeing England as Marys Dowery.. this comes at the same time the Orthodox Church sees itself as losing England to Rome... circa the Vatican sponsored Norman invasion of England..

Side note, the Russian Orthodox church recently made a Martyr of the last Anglo-Saxon King in his defence of Orthodox Christianity against the Papist Norman Invasion.

Although it does go back further than that, until they decided it was a spelling error in the old Vatican documents they did feel that England (Britain) was the first nation to receive the Word.. now it is put down to a spelling error..

Still that is England (Britains) exceptionalism laid bare, it's relationship with Mary as "her" Kingdom and why the Marian persecutions cut so deeply and burn so brightly even today..
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Interesting theory about George being Christ.

The Royal Family has come up a lot this week. Someone else posted (and I agree, mostly) that the reason the royal bloodline is so tightly controlled is so that their spirits can continuously incarnate into the family, with none being "lost". This would be especially important if it was the Holy bloodline, not just a royal one.

Also, CBC has been playing documentaries on the Queen/William/Kate/George/Harry all week. This is pure speculation on my part, but I think they know something. Perhaps the queen isn't well and they are "prepping" us for her death by inundating us with the Royals. I also think Charles will step aside and let William take the throne immediately.
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Found it strange you guys have gone back to slapping "Royal" on everything again, found it very strange...
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Well, your multi-coloured texts are very nice, and all that, but unfortunately it's wasted on me, cos I ain't reading it. Took me almost 40 minutes just to scroll to the bottom and reach the reply button.

Is this from B.I.W.F, by any chance?
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Do you know what I have always found strange is how Roman Catholics view England (Britain), The Roman Catholic exceptionalism is that England (Britain) was the gift God gave to Mary.. Even popes have referred to England with the nickname "Marys Dowery"
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That would make sense if they were referring to Mary Magdalen. If you believe the theories, she was taken north, through France and up into what are now the Orkney Islands of Scotland.
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Well, your multi-coloured texts are very nice, and all that, but unfortunately it's wasted on me, cos I ain't reading it. Took me almost 40 minutes just to scroll to the bottom and reach the reply button.

Is this from B.I.W.F, by any chance?
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Do you know what I have always found strange is how Roman Catholics view England (Britain), The Roman Catholic exceptionalism is that England (Britain) was the gift God gave to Mary.. Even popes have referred to England with the nickname "Marys Dowery"
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That would make sense if they were referring to Mary Magdalen. If you believe the theories, she was taken north, through France and up into what are now the Orkney Islands of Scotland.
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Back in the day all those churches were erected for the Magdalene..then covered up by the virgin mary
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Um their family tree is bullshit and lies op....thats the real truth.
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Well, your multi-coloured texts are very nice, and all that, but unfortunately it's wasted on me, cos I ain't reading it. Took me almost 40 minutes just to scroll to the bottom and reach the reply button.

Is this from B.I.W.F, by any chance?
 Quoting: Elephant in the room


Do you know what I have always found strange is how Roman Catholics view England (Britain), The Roman Catholic exceptionalism is that England (Britain) was the gift God gave to Mary.. Even popes have referred to England with the nickname "Marys Dowery"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66486356


That would make sense if they were referring to Mary Magdalen. If you believe the theories, she was taken north, through France and up into what are now the Orkney Islands of Scotland.
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The British Library have a book written in the 6th century by a Gaulish Bishop, his research notes that Mary, Lazarus ect made their way from the Holy land through to France and onto what we now call England..

It really annoys me how they have these books and keep them for the most part out of site, the last time that book was on view was a decade ago.. *shakes fist* they also have a high number of Anglo-Saxon bibles, which for some reason are NOT glosses of the Vulgate and get their texts from some other source.

This then flows back to Pelagian and the class between the British church and the Roman Church in the earliest days of the church we know..

Pelagius used terms like, Rome not teaching the original message brought by Jesus, comes back to the how and why would he know such a thing, and how come the British Church and Church of Rome have been at odds for most of the last 1600 years...

I find the historical side very very interesting, and would love to see what is written in those old Anglo-Saxon bibles as they might give us an indication of source.. personally I think their ideas come from the druids rather than Jesus or his disciples, but it would be a facinating insight which has been kept out of our reach for so long.
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Um their family tree is bullshit and lies op....thats the real truth.
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I had a dream of Camilla's portrait locked in a wooden and glass display case.
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Christ has returned .. He said next time he would return in power and glory.. not by incarnation. LOOK UP some night at all the power and glory up there and all the wondrous new material being given to the planet and the FACT that without that return after ww2.. this planet would have killed itself off. THINK. The British Royal Family is KHAZAR... they are not from Britain.
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Well, your multi-coloured texts are very nice, and all that, but unfortunately it's wasted on me, cos I ain't reading it. Took me almost 40 minutes just to scroll to the bottom and reach the reply button.

Is this from B.I.W.F, by any chance?
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Do you know what I have always found strange is how Roman Catholics view England (Britain), The Roman Catholic exceptionalism is that England (Britain) was the gift God gave to Mary.. Even popes have referred to England with the nickname "Marys Dowery"
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That would make sense if they were referring to Mary Magdalen. If you believe the theories, she was taken north, through France and up into what are now the Orkney Islands of Scotland.
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The British Library have a book written in the 6th century by a Gaulish Bishop, his research notes that Mary, Lazarus ect made their way from the Holy land through to France and onto what we now call England..

It really annoys me how they have these books and keep them for the most part out of site, the last time that book was on view was a decade ago.. *shakes fist* they also have a high number of Anglo-Saxon bibles, which for some reason are NOT glosses of the Vulgate and get their texts from some other source.

This then flows back to Pelagian and the class between the British church and the Roman Church in the earliest days of the church we know..

Pelagius used terms like, Rome not teaching the original message brought by Jesus, comes back to the how and why would he know such a thing, and how come the British Church and Church of Rome have been at odds for most of the last 1600 years...

I find the historical side very very interesting, and would love to see what is written in those old Anglo-Saxon bibles as they might give us an indication of source.. personally I think their ideas come from the druids rather than Jesus or his disciples, but it would be a facinating insight which has been kept out of our reach for so long.
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It is Mary M .... Joseph and a bunch of others including her were placed on an oarless boat in the Mediterranean and landed miraculously on the southern Mediterranean shore of France,,, she carrying THEIR DAUGHTER SA RA born at sea.

Joseph of A started the first real organization on property given him by the King... there was a marriage already in existance between a daughter of Joseph of A and I think it was the King's brother.

The place of this was called THE WAY.... Rome never did teach the original Messages.. Joseph of A and his crew DID
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Christ has returned .. He said next time he would return in power and glory.. not by incarnation. LOOK UP some night at all the power and glory up there and all the wondrous new material being given to the planet and the FACT that without that return after ww2.. this planet would have killed itself off. THINK. The British Royal Family is KHAZAR... they are not from Britain.
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It's a shame this thread will be one-starred by the hardcore christians on here, because it's so interesting. I wish they could at least appreciate it as a theory.
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Do you know what I have always found strange is how Roman Catholics view England (Britain), The Roman Catholic exceptionalism is that England (Britain) was the gift God gave to Mary.. Even popes have referred to England with the nickname "Marys Dowery"
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That would make sense if they were referring to Mary Magdalen. If you believe the theories, she was taken north, through France and up into what are now the Orkney Islands of Scotland.
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The British Library have a book written in the 6th century by a Gaulish Bishop, his research notes that Mary, Lazarus ect made their way from the Holy land through to France and onto what we now call England..

It really annoys me how they have these books and keep them for the most part out of site, the last time that book was on view was a decade ago.. *shakes fist* they also have a high number of Anglo-Saxon bibles, which for some reason are NOT glosses of the Vulgate and get their texts from some other source.

This then flows back to Pelagian and the class between the British church and the Roman Church in the earliest days of the church we know..

Pelagius used terms like, Rome not teaching the original message brought by Jesus, comes back to the how and why would he know such a thing, and how come the British Church and Church of Rome have been at odds for most of the last 1600 years...

I find the historical side very very interesting, and would love to see what is written in those old Anglo-Saxon bibles as they might give us an indication of source.. personally I think their ideas come from the druids rather than Jesus or his disciples, but it would be a facinating insight which has been kept out of our reach for so long.
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It is Mary M .... Joseph and a bunch of others including her were placed on an oarless boat in the Mediterranean and landed miraculously on the southern Mediterranean shore of France,,, she carrying THEIR DAUGHTER SA RA born at sea.

Joseph of A started the first real organization on property given him by the King... there was a marriage already in existance between a daughter of Joseph of A and I think it was the King's brother.

The place of this was called THE WAY.... Rome never did teach the original Messages.. Joseph of A and his crew DID
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Do you not find it interesting that within a decade of Jesus dying that Rome chooses to invade Britain? An Island they are literally terrified of.. So much so that the army nearly mutinied on the French caost..

And then one of the jobs while in Britain was to wipe out the religious/political class..

not to mention the stories of Britain being this special place come not from British sources but from Gaulish, Frankish or Germanic sources.. it is the likes of Hilary of Poitiers that say the apostles built their churches in Britain..

For my mind it is those kinds of sources, non native/external that add some weight to the notion that the group headed towards Britain by sea rather than India (both locations that would keep them out of reach of Rome)

Fascinating topic...

I have been researching a lost Church in my area, known as the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.. this church was lost at the time the Templars where disbanded, what has always interested me is the area this church was in was the area the De Payen family (of which Hugh De Payen was a member) held an estate.

There are many other connections, heck even one to clan Sinclair.. (it's the only time a Scottish clan has fought on the Southern English coast.)

but the above is just an aside.. but it all plays together in a wonderfully rich tapestry of history...
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THE FACTS CONFIRM THE APOCALYPSE AS IS IT ANALYZED IN THIS BLOG WITH A FLAWLESS CONSISTENCY. Before answering the question of the title, let see some points.

Whenever some details annoy some people, they relegate them to mere ramblings 'needed to be put in the context of the time'. AND? HOW DOES THE CONTEXT OF THAT TIME EXPLAIN SOME PASSAGES APPARENTLY ABSTRUSE IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION?

Suddenly, there is no one to explain. And it is my experience talking. Things are thrown in the trash of the 'uninteresting details' that Jesus asks specifically in chapter 22 of the Apocalypse not to remove or add to the prophecies.

BUT NOBODY EXPLAINS WHY JOHN HAS GIVEN THESE SPECIFIC INFORMATION IF THEY DO NOT CORRESPOND TO ANYTHING. Putting things aside seems to be the favorite sport of 'those who know everything in advance'.

You can reject the Apocalypse on the pretext not to be interested. But the main reason often lies in the complexity of this Book of Revelation. But once you have all the keys it is much simpler and understandable: JOHN EXPERIENCED A MYSTICAL CONTACT.

This blog is 'based' on the Bible in which it is question of clouds and angels. Of the 74 verses evoking the paranormal clouds only very few verses are in the Apocalypse. I mention the Apocalypse because the debate is centered on the return of Christ. The Apocalypse is the central book that details the conditions of this return in several stages: natural birth, spiritual birth (these two phases are now completed) and the Ministry of Christ who will come in a few years.

It is written that the Christ comes on / in / with a cloud . My purpose is 1) to show that the paranormal clouds are alien spacecrafts, 2) to show that Jesus Christ returns in an alien ship and 3) Prince George is Christ and his parents the Two Witnesses.

First, the flying saucers are precisely mentioned in the Old and the New Testament. Hence this blog. Humans UFO could / should exist only by means of an adequate terrestrial technology, WELL AFTER THE FIRST ALIEN UFO. The Apocalypse it clear about what happens to the Great Multitude in white robes. It will be nourished and protected by God while the chaos will reign on Earth. It will be therefore on another planet. False prophets are everywhere. This is not to say that all those who prophesy are false prophets. But why would the Prince George be Christ?

Take a step back and put everything in the ad hoc context.

Let review a little the Old Testament. In the chapters on Kings, God grants to King David a line of kings after him to represent Him on earth. His son is Solomon. This is also King Solomon who asked his people 666 talents of gold every year to satisfy its needs and requirements. Doing this, Solomon stayed away from God. This case is at the heart of the Number of the Beast.

This Beast is actually the second beast of the Apocalypse. If the first is the WORLD POLITICAL POWER, through the symbol of the British Royalty, via the Red Dragon (Princes of Wales), the second is the WORLD FINANCIAL POWER, through the City of London.

In the Apocalypse, John talks about the mysterious Babylon. And even the Great Prostitute. This is a single symbolic person: the City of London.

The City is a place apart. British kings and queens can NOT get there without being invited (the Apocalypse refers to it in his own way). It is the financial heart of the world as the leading financial center in the world (Stock Exchange, banks and insurance). The City of London, BABYLON-DON, the famous Mother of all prostitutes, that is to say, of all the world stock exchanges, was just the very first implantation of London in the first century. The City was thus baby London, hence BABYLON-DON.

Let us return to the Kings. God also promised to David that his lineage would not miss anything, that it would live in comfort, and that it will last forever!

First, let us see what are the present monarchies in which the seed of David could be found since it is supposed to rule FOREVER.

Here is the list of the current sovereign monarchs:

In green, the islamic monarchies. In purple, the asian religions. In orange, the christian monarchies. We can easily reckon that Christ will return in a christian monarchy.

Islamic countries:

Bahrain
Brunei
Jordan
Kuwait
Malaysia
Morocco
Oman
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates



Asian countries:

Bhutan
Cambodia
Japan
Thailand



Too small christian countries to be a powerful kingdom for Christ:

Andorra
Lesotho
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Monaco
Swaziland
Tonga
Vatican City



Christian countries that might challenge the British monarchy:

Belgium (12 million people). NO MALE CHILD DIRECT HEIR. Saxe-Coburg-Gotha like the British monarchy. First male is 11 and second in line.
Denmark (6 million people). NO DIRECT MALE CHILD HEIR. Heir apparent male is 46.
Netherlands (18 million people). NO MALE CHILD DIRECT HEIR.
Norway (5 million people). NO MALE CHILD DIRECT HEIR. Heir apparent male is 41. Second male in line is 9 but third in line.
Spain (47 million people). NO MALE CHILD DIRECT HEIR.
Sweden (10 million people). NO MALE CHILD DIRECT HEIR except a third in line male of 35.

From these six countries which could have the seed of David NONE has a male direct heir young enough to be a child



Christian countries under THE SAME BRITISH MONARCH WITH A MALE CHILD AS A DIRECT HEIR:

Antigua and Barbuda
Australia
Bahamas
Barbados
Belize
Canada
Grenada
Jamaica
New Zealand
Papua New Guinea
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Solomon Islands
Tuvalu
United Kingdom



THAT SERIES OF KINGDOMS UNDER ONE KINGDOM RESEMBLES A COMMUNITY OF NATIONS FROM THE LINEAGE OD KING DAVID!


The promise to David

The promise to David is the third of the great promises made by God upon which all further revelations are based. This promise is essential if one it to understand the Bible and especially if one is to appreciate what the Bible teaches about Jesus Christ.


Background to David’s life


David was a divinely nominated King of Israel and described in the scriptures as “a man after God’s own heart” (1 Samuel 13:14). Although he was not perfect he had an amazing faith in God and desired to see God glorified above all else.

David, by conquest had extended the Kingdom of Israel to it’s greatest extent and God had given King David “rest from his enemies” and had made his house to prosper. In light of this David wanted to build a temple for the worship of God.

In response to this God told him, through the prophet Nathan that He would not allow him to build the temple but his son, Solomon would. However God promised David that He would actually build David a house and this promise, along with it’s details forms another foundation promise of the gospel. The most significant part of this promise is that the seed of David would sit upon his throne, as king, ruling over an everlasting Kingdom. This is in fact the further unfolding of a previous promise God gave to Abraham:

“In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:” Genesis 15-18

The promised seed (descendant) therefore is connected with the land of Israel.


Why is this important?


If you study what the Bible says about Jesus, you will note that there are lots of references to King David and the promises made to him. Jesus is to fulfill these promises and therefore to understand them is to appreciate what Gods purpose through Jesus Christs is. Consider the following:

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.” Isaiah 9:6-7

“And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will. Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:” Acts 13:22-23

“I Jesus have sent my angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.” Revelation 22:16


What was promised to David?

The promise to David is recorded in 2 Samuel 7. It’s different aspects have been defined below:

Israel, God’s chosen people, would eventually settle and would be safe (this is yet to be fulfilled!) – 2 Samuel 7:10

The promised seed (see promises to Abraham and the promise in Eden) would be a decendant of David – 2 Samuel 7:12

This seed (or decendant) would build a house for God – 2 Samuel 7:13

God, as well as David would be the seed’s Father – he would be the “Son of God” – 2 Samuel 7:14

God’s mercy would remain with David’s seed – 2 Samuel 7:14-15

David’s throne an Kingdom is to be established FOREVER – 2 Samuel 7:13-16

The throne and the seed would be done “before” David (e.g. in front of him)
– 2 Samuel 7:26

What does this mean?


This covenant has not yet been fulfilled. Jesus was the seed (decendant) of David who was to come. Here are two references in the gospels to prove this:

“He (Jesus) shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end”. Luke 1:32-33

“The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham”.
Matthew 1:1

So Christ then was the descendant (or seed) of David but also he was the son of God as was promised to David:

“And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God”. Luke 1:35

The promise stated that David would see his descendant (Christ) sitting on his throne, the throne of David in Jerusalem and that his Kingdom would continue forever. This is to happen in the future when Jesus Christ returns to the earth to establish that kingdom.

“And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again… And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David“. Acts 13:32-34

David himself realized that this covenant would be fulfilled through one greater than himself and he spake of this in one of his Psalms which the apostle Paul later picks up on:

“My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David. His seed shall endure for ever, and his throne as the sun before me. It shall be established for ever as the moon, and as a faithful witness in heaven”. Psalm 89:34-37

“THE LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.” Psalm 132:11

“THE LORD (God) said unto my Lord (Davids seed), Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool”. Psalm 110:1

“Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ”. Acts 2:29-36

Clearly then, the Bible teaches that David must be resurrected, that Jesus Christ must come back to the earth to sit upon Davids and set up a Kingdom which will last forever. This will be a re-establishment of the Kingdom of God (over which David ruled). God told the last king, King Zedekiah, this:

“Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown… I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it (The Kingdom of Israel): and it shall be no more, until he (Jesus Christ) come whose right it is; and I will give it him”. Ezekiel 21:26-27

So this Kingdom then is to be re-established in the future. The one who is to come of whom God will give the Kingdom is Jesus Christ, the descendant of David and son of God.

“Behold, the days come, saith THE LORD, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah. In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness. For thus saith THE LORD; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel”. Jeremiah 33:14-17

In Hebrews 11 we have a list of faithful followers of God. David is mentioned in verse 32. We also read in that chapter the following:

“And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.” Hebrews 11:39-40

So then these promises are in the future and we can be associated with them by belief in them, being baptized and following a faithful life. Peter tells us that by having a knowledge of these things that there have been:

“…given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust”. 2 Peter 1:4

Author: M. Davies, Nottingham, March 2009


Also, God declared that the tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim would be A Nation respectively, and a community of Nations. The two tribes would be asked to dominate the world. And Ephraim is the first son through whom God would send the Anointed. Manasseh is the USA (A Nation). Ephraim is the United Kingdom and ... the Common Wealth (Community of Nations).

So, from the beginning, God planned that Christ would return in the British royal family. There is a movement stating that: the Anglo-Israelism. Some of their claims are misleading, but the basics are solid.

The "British" word is supposed to be derived from two Hebrew words "Berit" and "Ish" to be understood as "men of the covenant." Remember that the Apocalypse is full of kings that can be easily distinguished from other characters. The very notion of royalty is the representation of God on Earth. The king was both the political leader and spiritual leader. There was no Pope.


Promises to Ephraim and Manasseh

THE promises of Israel's greatness were to be fulfilled in the "last days", that is, during the Christian era. These promises apply precisely to the Anglo-Saxon-Celtic people, and can be applied to no other people upon the earth.

""And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days""(GENESIS 49:1).

Joseph was the birthright tribe, and Joseph's two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, were formed into two separate tribes, which became the leaders of the ten-tribed House of Israel; Ephraim taking the more prominent position. The promise given to Joseph in GENESIS 49:22, to be fulfilled in the last days, was: ""Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall ..."".

The promise continues in verse 24: ""But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob ..."". This has been certainly true of the Anglo-Saxon people in this age, as they have spread throughout the earth and have been helped by the providence of God as has no other people.


These two leading tribes, Ephraim and Manasseh, were to become the heads of the two great sections into which Israel was to be divided. As we have already seen, Israel was to become a nation and a company of nations. In GENESIS 48:19, Manasseh was told that he was to become a great people, or nation. This prophecy finds its fulfillment in these last days in the United States of America. Ephraim, on the other hand, was told that he would become a multitude of nations. This prophecy finds its fulfillment in the other great section of Anglo-Saxondom, the company of nations of the British Commonwealth.

What this royalty has become today is precisely the reason for the return of Christ in the royal family, just as Jesus Christ came on Earth 2000 years ago as an heir to the throne of Israel in the midst of a culture whose behavior betrayed God himself! History repeats itself, but the outcome will be very different. Christ does not return to be crucified but to take the elect and for the Last Judgment. All this has nothing to do with the reptilians, but with a secular tradition, and even divine.
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There is nothing truly noble or truly righteous about the idea of royalty.

To associate them (the idea of it) with the truth in any way is like associating murder with the idea of love. It is an insult to all things true hearted. But you know that already don't you? LOL
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Well, your multi-coloured texts are very nice, and all that, but unfortunately it's wasted on me, cos I ain't reading it. Took me almost 40 minutes just to scroll to the bottom and reach the reply button.

Is this from B.I.W.F, by any chance?
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Do you know what I have always found strange is how Roman Catholics view England (Britain), The Roman Catholic exceptionalism is that England (Britain) was the gift God gave to Mary.. Even popes have referred to England with the nickname "Marys Dowery"
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What Pepe and the RC church think about England means little or nothing to me, either.

But I'll stop now, because I see that people are starting to quote the whole OP, which makes it even harder work.

...back to something a bit easier..for me
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Do you know what I have always found strange is how Roman Catholics view England (Britain), The Roman Catholic exceptionalism is that England (Britain) was the gift God gave to Mary.. Even popes have referred to England with the nickname "Marys Dowery"
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That would make sense if they were referring to Mary Magdalen. If you believe the theories, she was taken north, through France and up into what are now the Orkney Islands of Scotland.
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The British Library have a book written in the 6th century by a Gaulish Bishop, his research notes that Mary, Lazarus ect made their way from the Holy land through to France and onto what we now call England..

It really annoys me how they have these books and keep them for the most part out of site, the last time that book was on view was a decade ago.. *shakes fist* they also have a high number of Anglo-Saxon bibles, which for some reason are NOT glosses of the Vulgate and get their texts from some other source.

This then flows back to Pelagian and the class between the British church and the Roman Church in the earliest days of the church we know..

Pelagius used terms like, Rome not teaching the original message brought by Jesus, comes back to the how and why would he know such a thing, and how come the British Church and Church of Rome have been at odds for most of the last 1600 years...

I find the historical side very very interesting, and would love to see what is written in those old Anglo-Saxon bibles as they might give us an indication of source.. personally I think their ideas come from the druids rather than Jesus or his disciples, but it would be a facinating insight which has been kept out of our reach for so long.
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It is Mary M .... Joseph and a bunch of others including her were placed on an oarless boat in the Mediterranean and landed miraculously on the southern Mediterranean shore of France,,, she carrying THEIR DAUGHTER SA RA born at sea.

Joseph of A started the first real organization on property given him by the King... there was a marriage already in existance between a daughter of Joseph of A and I think it was the King's brother.

The place of this was called THE WAY.... Rome never did teach the original Messages.. Joseph of A and his crew DID
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I don't have my notes, but there is a place in France called Fecamp (french for Fig Tree) where the fig tree (boat?) that allegedly carried the Holy Grail (magdalene and child?) washed ashore. Look it up, kind of interesting.

The Norse were converted to Christianity and charged with protecting these people. Their descendants became French/English/Scottish nobility.

The St. Clairs for example descend from the Norse line of Rognivald. His son Hrolf was converted to Christianity and made Duke of Normandy. Their descendents, the St. Clairs, were Earls of Orkney and Caithness in Scotland, took part in the crusades, had ties to the templar, and were the first grand masters of freemasonry. Interesting, no?

I am a direct descendent of these people but on a fairly obscure (irrelevant) branch.
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It's a shame this thread will be one-starred by the hardcore christians on here, because it's so interesting. I wish they could at least appreciate it as a theory.
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When you look at the history of it going all the way back to the founding of the Church, there is so much evidence coming forward of something, that it is not surprising some create magical stories about it, Arthur, the Grail, etc..

What I have found deeply interesting is how the US tends to see itself as Rome.. while the Victorians saw themselves as Israelites...

When the British troops finally entered Jerusalem in 1917 it was said to Parliament to be a Christmas gift to the British people...

If you ever watch BBCs last night of the proms, seek out the hymn "Jerusalem" and then compare the audiences behaviour to that song to their behaviour to the national anthem and then try to explain why one is more reverently observed.

It is fascinating how peoples seek these kinds of identities and how those identities reflect their nature/position in the world around them..

Utterly fascinating stuff...
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I had a dream of Camilla's portrait locked in a wooden and glass display case.
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camilla looks like john kerry





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