The Grand conspiracy - Earth is threatened & we are being kept in the dark & fed on bullshit. | |
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PERSPECTIVE User ID: 129072 United Kingdom 08/10/2006 07:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nice peice i have thoughts too i think the layers of earths atmosphere act as multiple lenses and by manipulating just one of them you can intensify or regulate the resulting temperature thereof The technology exists for this, as does that of hurricane manipulation so how come the frequency and size of these events is increasing ... i mean if they got the stuff to tame these beasties ... why does it seem like they are infact whipping em up? Maybe they want us all dead and for us to think it was our own fault for not recycling and living with nature instead of against it, then when were dead they will have a nice playground Nah, that's just frickin crazy talk |
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AC 2741 (OP) User ID: 579 United Kingdom 08/10/2006 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thanks for the positive comments so far. this article proved particularly interesting: [link to www.holmestead.ca] project "shield" |
AC 2741 (OP) User ID: 579 United Kingdom 08/10/2006 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | James E. Phelps studied electrical engineering at the University of Tennessee with his thesis being in core reactor refuelling electronics for breeder reactors. Much of his work was at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Tennessee (ORNL) which is funded by the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) where he worked in the areas of radiation detection and measurements and site remediation amongst other tasks. He developed the concept of air pharmacology while working at ORNL. This concept entails "treating" the air with chemicals to mitigate and offset the effects of other toxic chemicals in the air such as hydrogen fluoride and chlorine. The purpose was to lessen the extremely toxic effects of fluoride pollution while not stating that a problem existed to the public. The entire art of pharmacology is about how to add one more toxic effect to mitigate another from industry or environment. The chemtrail technique is basically air pharmacology - how to add one more pollutant that has some positive synergistic effect against another. Phelps developed this approach while looking at weapons plants worker health effects at ORNL. Jim has been actively and openly involved in criticism of ORNL and DOE and much related material may be found by searching online and also at his environmental newsletter web site: DOEWatch. There you will find much on "air pharmacology" or "scattering" or "geoengineering" or, in other words, "chemtrails". In his web pages he openly makes the claim of being a whistle blower. Jim was asked for some opinion on the Holmestead.ca Shield Project web page and he has provided this short "review": ***** "I have been asked to comment on the earlier Holmestead.ca chemtrail question and answer web page regarding the: Shield Project. Here are my thoughts: Sounds connected pretty close - sounds like one of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory types. LLNL (funded by the DOE) is where all the weather and toxic computer science happens in the U.S. They do the EIS [Environmental Impact Statements] for the wars and things. Most of the science and logic "Deep Shield" describes is real close - not perfect. Any errors in the web page version may simply be due to note taking and transcription. Some additional questions could have been asked such as relating to the radiation conversion ionization mechanism of the barium and fluoride. Keep in mind that the "Star Wars" program and "chemtrails" overlap. The Star Wars program called "Excalibur" uses all the physics connected to the chemtrail effects. Excalibur is a nuclear pumped x-ray LASER system, whose basic operations are the same as those for the Sun's radiation acting on the fluorides in the upper atmosphere. They are so close to each other that both of them use the "shield" term. This "Deep" person speaks the exact lingo from ORNL in the 80's that was used as the national security justification for the chemtrails and their close association to Star Wars and Ed Teller. "Deep" refers to the need to keep all this mess secret so as not to panic the planet. What this does is allow them to manipulate things. We all know that for a problem of this magnitude, that in order to fix it, you involve all the peoples of the planet. This process would bring on real global cooperation and peace. This is basically the time when all the peoples of the world deserve to know the problems and learn to work together. This is the real definition for greater good and bringing on global oneness. You are headed in that direction of openness and accountability with your web site work and this is good." Jim Phelps |
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Earnest User ID: 74540 Canada 08/10/2006 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok alot of research has drawn me to this conclusion. read all you can on the following areas: solar activity trends chemtrails global warming emergency drills here's my theory: Man made global warning is a cover story designed to obscure the fact that the sun is getting hotter. The reason for this is damage limitation from TPTB. If TPTB are facing a situation of high severity over which they can exercise no control then they will never admit this to the general population. General panic would ensue. So instead they produce an easily believeable cover story that mans activities are responsible for the warming of the planet, which in fact is not actually fully correct. <snip> Sorry, but I have a couple problems with this. 1. Scientists, many of whom are independent of government are among the most outspoken on "our" resposibility for Global Warming. The most unpopular member of TPTB and his govt. are trying to downplay it, and our part in it. Is this supposed to be another psy-op? 2. I'm no expert in "chem trails" but if they exist, it would take battalions of planes spraying 24/7 to have any effect. They would be everywhere. And I imagine they would need to fly alot higher than our planes can fly. 3. This is a biggie: SOHO while probably the best, isn't the only way to monitor the sun. If it were really getting hotter, the only way to keep it quiet would be to kill all scientists who have the ablility to monitor the sun (all over the world). Then they would have to find all the amateurs who do the same thing. My point is, there would be no way to keep something like that a secret. Reality is interesting enough. |
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Enlightened George User ID: 121150 United States 08/10/2006 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you are on to something but... how do you factor in the deep underground bases that I know exists and places like area 51 where projects so secret are carried out that not even the president of the United States can go there? I have my own theories but they are so "radical" that I would be considered a kook. The debunkers here would have a field day. Our battle field is the mind, our weapon is truth and our shields are honor and courage. |
AC 2741 (OP) User ID: 579 United Kingdom 08/10/2006 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "This is a biggie: SOHO while probably the best, isn't the only way to monitor the sun. If it were really getting hotter, the only way to keep it quiet would be to kill all scientists who have the ablility to monitor the sun. Then they would have to find all the amateurs who do the same thing. My point is, there would be no way to keep something like that a secret." it isn't a secret, there have been a number of articles in scientific journals pointing this out, however this information "appears" to be being ignored by TPTB. (or is it?) |
AC 2741 (OP) User ID: 579 United Kingdom 08/10/2006 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i believe the spraying is targeted over population centres to mitigate immediate effects. |
AC 2741 (OP) User ID: 579 United Kingdom 08/10/2006 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "how do you factor in the deep underground bases that I know exists and places like area 51 where projects so secret are carried out that not even the president of the United States can go there?" there is alot of hearsay about DUMBS. We can only guess at their extent/numbers. Personally i don't go for the alien underground base stuff, just basic humans there for military purposes i think. |
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Earnest User ID: 74540 Canada 08/10/2006 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "This is a biggie: SOHO while probably the best, isn't the only way to monitor the sun. If it were really getting hotter, the only way to keep it quiet would be to kill all scientists who have the ablility to monitor the sun. Then they would have to find all the amateurs who do the same thing. My point is, there would be no way to keep something like that a secret." Quoting: AC 2741it isn't a secret, there have been a number of articles in scientific journals pointing this out, however this information "appears" to be being ignored by TPTB. (or is it?) Linky? I'd think that a "climate altering" change in the sun's temperature would make big mainstream news. Reality is interesting enough. |
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LEGION, FOR THERE ARE MANY User ID: 117859 United States 08/10/2006 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you are on to something but... how do you factor in the deep underground bases that I know exists and places like area 51 where projects so secret are carried out that not even the president of the United States can go there? Quoting: Enlightened GeorgeI have my own theories but they are so "radical" that I would be considered a kook. The debunkers here would have a field day. I`m sure your theories will not be as radical or kooky as you think they are. I feel confident your not alone on your "plateau"............LEGION |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 129098 United Kingdom 08/10/2006 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im in the dallas area and the weather guys in myarea can never get the weather straight,they said 2 days ago we were only gonna be around 98 and last night they said 103 but i think thats because they havnt sprayed for about 2 days and i can see the blue skys for the first time in a couple of weeks,That forcast of 103 is for today. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 112503 United States 08/10/2006 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Earth is not threatened, but we are kept in the dark about a LOT of things. Nobody seems to want to re-write all the textbooks! For instance, NOAA map of the age of the seafloor showing nothing over 200 million years, and the bulk of it considerably newer than that. Impossible to explain with any traditional geology. [link to www.ngdc.noaa.gov] Don't lose any sleep over this. |
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