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I went to a talk with Nouriel Roubini and Ian Bremmer, and now I'm worried about everything [link to read.bi]
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Everything is going to be terrible in 2015.

That's the message that I came away with after listening to Time's Rana Foroohar interview economist Nouriel Roubini and geopolitics expert Ian Bremmer. The three discussed global risk in the coming year.

There are major risks in China, Russia, Europe, the Middle East, and Nigeria.

Beyond just general terribleness, there are a few things to consider specifically:

The Global Economy

On the economy, Roubini said that he sees four major drivers of the global economy: the US, Europe, Japan, and China and other emerging-market economies.

The only one of the four currently on the upswing is the US. However, it's questionable whether the American economy can distance itself from the rest of the world if there are economic headwinds everywhere else. The Federal Reserve's ending of quantitative easing (QE) hasn't hurt the US. But it has hurt emerging markets in the rest of the world.

The economy in Europe, meanwhile, is more or less a disaster.

"I'm more negative about Europe than even during the euro crisis," said Bremmer.



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Everything is going to be terrible in 2015.

That's the message that I came away with after listening to Time's Rana Foroohar interview economist Nouriel Roubini and geopolitics expert Ian Bremmer. The three discussed global risk in the coming year.

There are major risks in China, Russia, Europe, the Middle East, and Nigeria.

Beyond just general terribleness, there are a few things to consider specifically:

The Global Economy

On the economy, Roubini said that he sees four major drivers of the global economy: the US, Europe, Japan, and China and other emerging-market economies.

The only one of the four currently on the upswing is the US. However, it's questionable whether the American economy can distance itself from the rest of the world if there are economic headwinds everywhere else. The Federal Reserve's ending of quantitative easing (QE) hasn't hurt the US. But it has hurt emerging markets in the rest of the world.

The economy in Europe, meanwhile, is more or less a disaster.

"I'm more negative about Europe than even during the euro crisis," said Bremmer.



Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]
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In short, the quick fixes utilized by the world's financial institutions to resolve the 2008-9 financial crisis are coming undone. This is due to two basic and general factors: (1) the "fixes" were never fixes at all; (2) additional stresses have developed in the 5-6 years since the crisis.

(1) Financial institutions engaged in a mix of money "printing" and credit easing ("increased liquidity") in '08-9, coupled with a policy of fiscal centralization, particularly in Europe. Both of these "fixes" were in fact what caused the crisis in the first place, so the "fix" was akin to giving a drug addict a shot of heroin to get past short-term withdrawals. The withdrawal symptoms disappear, but he's still an addict.

This liquidity and centralization did no more than maintain and increase the problems in the market, further decoupling the fiscal market from the productive base of the world economy. For various reasons, we are now seeing this "fix" come undone, starting with the worst-hit European country, Greece, and the country that best survived the previous storm, Switzerland. As is clear, however, all major financial players are being hit.

(2) Since '08-9, we've seen the exacerbation of fiscal stress coupled with the rise of additional geopolitical-economic stresses, such as the Ukraine crisis and Russia standoff. Japan's inflationary policy in particular has helped destabilize currency markets. To add fuel to the fire, crude prices a dropping like a rock, which helps trigger financial instability.

A horribly short explanation, but generally speaking this is what's happening: The locus of the current crisis is currency and bonds, in contrast to the previous crisis which was centered in securities and mortgages. Inflation in loans and mortgages in the early 2000s caused the security/mortgage bubble that burst in 2008; inflation of currency and bonds in '08-9 to fight the previous crisis caused a currency/bond bubble that is now bursting. What's distinctive about a currency/bond bubble is that you can't increase liquidity to fight it - that deepens the crisis. There are only two proven ways to fight it: (1) correct the currency, (2) mass warfare to distract the markets from the severity of the crisis and to artificially boost necessary sectors of economic production (war supplies). Of course, there's a third option, which is to hide your head in the sand and ignore the total collapse of the world market. A market is built on its currency: if the currency goes, the market goes. If the market goes, everything goes.
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If Europe introduces QE to fight the latest Euro-crisis, or if they introduce a further bailout of Greece, run for the hills.
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you can bet it will happen!
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"An ECB Board Member Says QE 'Has To Be Big' To Work

[link to uk.businessinsider.com]
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MineForNothing @minefornothing · 24 seg Há 25 segundos
Kathimerini reports that Greek bank, Eurobank, is under additional pressure as it has a "significant" amount of Swiss Franc mortgages

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and another fx broker down:

Alpari (UK) Important announcement - entered into insolvency
[link to www.forexfactory.com]

Big impact in the forexcommunity! Reading the comments below is pretty entertaining.


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Business Insider @businessinsider · 8 min Há 8 minutos
Here is AT&T's epic $8 billion Friday night news dump [link to read.bi]
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Dam Luis, your are the GLP finance reporter well done again...
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Without QE, “Eurozone Financial Markets Would Collapse”

[link to wolfstreet.com]
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Ummm what is a bail-in? anti-bailout?
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A bail-in is where they steal money from specific bank accounts (i.e. YOURS) rather than just the taxpayers via the federal government. They'll wipe out pension funds too and whatever else they can get away with. Just like a herd of filthy locusts.
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Exactly.

WARNING Bank Deposits Will Soon No Longer Be Considered Money But Paper Investments

[link to www.economicpolicyjournal.com]

This is the "bail-in".


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MineForNothing @minefornothing · 3 min Há 3 minutos
Over half a million Polish families own mortgages in francs, with a majority taken out before the crisis in 2008 [link to www.thenews.pl] …
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Harald Malmgren @Halsrethink · 40 min Há 40 minutos
@MishGEA Greeks,especially Greek Cypriots, are familiar with bail-ins. Fear of "The Great Greek Bail-in" should surprise no one.
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Harald Malmgren @Halsrethink · 40 min Há 40 minutos
@MishGEA Greeks,especially Greek Cypriots, are familiar with bail-ins. Fear of "The Great Greek Bail-in" should surprise no one.
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"Bail-In" Regulations make bank runs an absolute certainty, meaning soon they'll decide they must institute "Bank Holidays" before news that a bank is under extreme stress get out to the "Street".

Which of course will just make the situation worse on the investment side of the coin...

Everything they've done since 2008 has only served to paint themselves further and further into the corner.
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Ugh, I thought we all did a great job dohdging the 2014 doomguess we need to brace ourselves once again.
You are the creator of your own master plan... Make it a good one.

Wake the fuk up and be ready... This is absolutely no time to be stupid!

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yep-
"An ECB Board Member Says QE 'Has To Be Big' To Work

[link to uk.businessinsider.com]
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hesright
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The real question is. How will the QE get into the common mans hands to support his own economy ?

Were did the 30+ Trillion of QE go so far ?

How would anyone even qualify, in significant numbers to effect the economy by receiving this QE in the form of loans ? Just more propping up and kicking the can.

Next !
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"An ECB Board Member Says QE 'Has To Be Big' To Work

[link to uk.businessinsider.com]
 Quoting: rp 67083290


hesright
 Quoting: Luisport


The real question is. How will the QE get into the common mans hands to support his own economy ?

Were did the 30+ Trillion of QE go so far ?

How would anyone even qualify, in significant numbers to effect the economy by receiving this QE in the form of loans ? Just more propping up and kicking the can.

Next !
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Where
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Dam Luis, your are the GLP finance reporter well done again...
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I'm wondering if he ever sleeps...

Highly appreciated!!!
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It was the worst of times,
it was the worster of times.
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Gregor Peter @L0gg0l · 2 h Há 2 horas
More to come.. RT @TheStalwart: Swiss franc move obliterates a $830 million fund [link to www.bloomberg.com] …
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As we are fond of saying in America, “All hell broke loose,” when I awoke Thursday morning. The Swiss National Bank announced they would de-peg their currency, the Swiss Franc, to the Euro. As we are also fond of saying in America, “Something is rotten in Denmark,” In this case, it is Greece. But for us who study the correlation of cycles in the cosmic to cycles in human activity, it is larger than that. It is the Earth, caught in the belly of a cosmic vice that is squeezing ever tighter, involving precise mathematical relationships between the four furthest out planets in the known solar system (Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto) to our planet.


Financial Astrologers call this “hard aspect formations.” That is, spatially, all four planets are in harmonics of a 1/8 relationship to one another. I don’t know the last time this occurred. Specifically, Saturn has just entered a 45° semi-square to Pluto on November 27, 2014, that will last into August 2015. Saturn also entered a 135° sesquisquare aspect to Uranus on ,December 2, 2014 that will last into October 2015. Uranus, of course, remains in a tight 90° square to Pluto through March 16-17, 2014. And now Saturn is within three degrees of a 90° square aspect to Neptune. That’s close enough to have an “influence,” especially as Mars is also with Neptune this past week. It’s a trigger. Given the events of Thursday, January 15, it is more like a detonator on a financial explosive. We may expect more reactions from other central banks within the next few days, given that Mercury will turn retrograde on Wednesday, January 21. That will be like band aid on a teen age pimple entering puberty.


Which brings up the next important point in this developing cosmic tsunami: In addition to Saturn making hard aspect to Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto (and don’t forget Uranus is still in a close square to Pluto), Mercury is about to go retrograde in an air sign (Aquarius) on Wednesday, January 21. This is an important Mercury retrograde passage because it will also go direct in Aquarius on February 10. The Sun is also in Aquarius (air sign) those same dates, making this a quadruple air phenomenon with the Sun and Mercury. The last time this happened was in 2008, when the financial crisis got underway. It happened three times then – once each in Aquarius, Gemini, and Libra. The first occurrence in late January 2008 coincided with the Federal Reserve dropping its key interest rate ¾ of a point, its steepest one-day drop in over 24 years at the time. It needed to do that, because there was a crisis developing in Europe, actually caused by dubious financial banking practices in America, known as the “sub-prime housing market crisis.” Europe was more exposed to this American hybrid of a financial derivative than anyone knew. The world began coming apart. In response, the Federal Reserve Board began a series of steep interest rate cuts, which stemmed the free fall for about 4 months – until the next quadruple air sign of the Sun and Mercury retrograde occurred in May-June 2008. By the time third and final quadruple air collage hit in late September-October 2008, the collapse was underway and forecasters were predicting the end of capitalism, democracy, secure money market funds, and …. money itself. [link to www.mmacycles.com]
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You guys don't seem to see the obvious path they are taking. It appears if everyone converted to US dollars and the FED and did away with these other troubled currencies that all would be well!
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MineForNothing @minefornothing · 47 seg Há 47 segundos
Classy blog from @Macronomics1 - good stuff on SNB too
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Ps - a little technical but still good fun
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Business Insider @businessinsider · 1 min Há 1 minuto
Roubini: 'The Middle East is a total mess, and it's only going to get worse' [link to read.bi]
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Business Insider @businessinsider · 3 min Há 3 minutos
Swiss finance minister: We'll survive the wild franc move [link to read.bi]

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Business Insider @businessinsider · 6 min Há 6 minutos
Will they or won't they? The ECB will answer on Wednesday [link to read.bi]
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Gregor Peter @L0gg0l · 2 min Há 2 minutos
Will Globex be open tonight as usual?

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The US is a total mess. How good are prospects when cops are being targeted coast to coast? Besides creating more vacant cop jobs?
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Paul Mason @paulmasonnews · 17 de jan
ECB to do QE by forcing national central banks to guarantee debt, thus revealing Euro = not really a currency union at all.

Russian Market @russian_market · 2 min Há 2 minutos
Finland rejects debt relief to Greece, Prime Minister Alexander Stubb says, according to Helsinki-based newspaper Helsingin Sanomat.





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