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Army-of-Souls (OP) User ID: 64569722 Netherlands 01/17/2015 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any "engraving" older than 6000 and some change on this planet is a lie. Quoting: sundayisNOTthesabbath Just wanted to share the shell, I dont agree on the age either. Peace Last Edited by Jozo on 01/17/2015 07:07 PM |
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Army-of-Souls (OP) User ID: 64569722 Netherlands 01/17/2015 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shell is not 500,000 years-old. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63392571 OP accepted that on faith, just like the author did, just like the "experts" do. I didnt accept that on faith, i dont agree on the age, just wanted to share the shell...omg.. You assume... Lot of bad people this week, if i didnt know better I would think all people are cruel animals these days :) I even believe our history in the books is a lie. Peace Last Edited by Jozo on 01/17/2015 07:13 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24413414 United States 01/17/2015 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shell is not 500,000 years-old. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63392571 OP accepted that on faith, just like the author did, just like the "experts" do. I didnt accept that on faith, i dont agree on the age, just wanted to share the shell...omg.. You assume... Lot of bad people this week, if i didnt know better I would think all people are cruel animals these days :) I even believe our history in the books is a lie. Peace Have a green for your patience. ;) |
Army-of-Souls (OP) User ID: 65126745 Netherlands 01/17/2015 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shell is not 500,000 years-old. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63392571 OP accepted that on faith, just like the author did, just like the "experts" do. I didnt accept that on faith, i dont agree on the age, just wanted to share the shell...omg.. You assume... Lot of bad people this week, if i didnt know better I would think all people are cruel animals these days :) I even believe our history in the books is a lie. Peace Have a green for your patience. ;) thanks |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24413414 United States 01/17/2015 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any "engraving" older than 6000 and some change on this planet is a lie. Quoting: sundayisNOTthesabbath You poor baby. Who did this to you? Common sense. If you truly believe you "evolved" from nothing as you are taught in your public schools, than life means nothing. You are meaningless. Worthless. An accident of nature. That is what satan wants you to think. You came from nothing. Nothing you do matters. Christians are idiots. Funny. Life comes from nothing = genius. Life comes from the Creator = madness. Who indeed is the poor baby... Who indeed is taught to be worthless... |
Army-of-Souls (OP) User ID: 65126745 Netherlands 01/17/2015 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's funny, because I'm not an atheist. Why do (SOME!) Christian people not respect people that are having another belief about what God is. For some people, God is not equal to Jesus, that doesn't make me not believe in God, we just differ on the definition of God. In the eyes of a Christian the thought kicks in that there is just their God, so there starts the blockade why they can't even imagine that some people believe in another theory, they just can't grasp that and punish them in every way they can.(exceptions are anywhere, of course) please respect others, I don't force what I believe down your throats... I wouldn't thumb you down just because I can read between the lines that someone is a Christian and punish you for that, just because our belief don't match.. I just wanted to share a damn shell. it had nothing to do with religion. If I wanted to make a thread about carbon dating true/false, I would have done that, I didn't. to avoid these discussions if the age of the shell is right as claimed, I place a question mark :) it didn't help at all. No I don't believe that shell is 500.000 year old, but who cares what I believe. Now I'm the devil because of that burning in hell ? wtf :) Last Edited by Jozo on 01/17/2015 11:17 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24413414 United States 01/17/2015 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had some feedback in the form of "-1" with the comment "Seek God." Quoting: Army-of-Souls That's funny, because I'm not an atheist. Why do Christian people not respect people that are having another belief about what God is. For some people, God is not equal to Jesus, that doesn't make me not believe in God, we just differ on the definition of God. In the eyes of a Christian the thought kicks in that there is just their God, so there starts the blockade why they can't even imagine that some people believe in another theory, they just can't grasp that and punish them in every way they can.(exceptions are anywhere, of course) please respect others, I don't force what I believe down your throats... I wouldn't thumb you down just because I can read between the lines that someone is a Christian and punish you for that, just because our belief don't match.. I just wanted to share a damn shell. it had nothing to do with religion. If I wanted to make a thread about carbon dating true/false, I would have done that, I didn't. to avoid these discussions if the age of the shell is right as claimed, I place a question mark :) it didn't help at all mate Christians are not the ones leaving neg karma, downvoting ect . Maybe they claim the title, but as even atheists love to tell, a simple claim does not make one a Christian. The Christian standard is found from the very founder of the sect. "by their fruits" Christians are not harassing you. Perhaps men who in error claim the title. But no Christian has attacked you. |
Army-of-Souls (OP) User ID: 65126745 Netherlands 01/17/2015 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had some feedback in the form of "-1" with the comment "Seek God." Quoting: Army-of-Souls That's funny, because I'm not an atheist. Why do Christian people not respect people that are having another belief about what God is. For some people, God is not equal to Jesus, that doesn't make me not believe in God, we just differ on the definition of God. In the eyes of a Christian the thought kicks in that there is just their God, so there starts the blockade why they can't even imagine that some people believe in another theory, they just can't grasp that and punish them in every way they can.(exceptions are anywhere, of course) please respect others, I don't force what I believe down your throats... I wouldn't thumb you down just because I can read between the lines that someone is a Christian and punish you for that, just because our belief don't match.. I just wanted to share a damn shell. it had nothing to do with religion. If I wanted to make a thread about carbon dating true/false, I would have done that, I didn't. to avoid these discussions if the age of the shell is right as claimed, I place a question mark :) it didn't help at all mate Christians are not the ones leaving neg karma, downvoting ect . Maybe they claim the title, but as even atheists love to tell, a simple claim does not make one a Christian. The Christian standard is found from the very founder of the sect. "by their fruits" Christians are not harassing you. Perhaps men who in error claim the title. But no Christian has attacked you. thats why I said exceptions are anywhere m8, the majority of them don't attack me at all(my whole family is Christian but don't attack anyone), it's a small group of Christian-extremists on GLP :) edit: you for example just give your opinion in the open, but some leave feedback this way, so you can't defend yourself, like one star bandits who don't leave a comment at all Last Edited by Jozo on 01/17/2015 11:05 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65941087 United States 01/17/2015 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any "engraving" older than 6000 and some change on this planet is a lie. Quoting: sundayisNOTthesabbath You poor baby. Who did this to you? Common sense. If you truly believe you "evolved" from nothing as you are taught in your public schools, than life means nothing. You are meaningless. Worthless. An accident of nature. That is what satan wants you to think. You came from nothing. Nothing you do matters. Christians are idiots. Funny. Life comes from nothing = genius. Life comes from the Creator = madness. Who indeed is the poor baby... Who indeed is taught to be worthless... So you're choosing the age based on how warm and fuzzy it makes you feel? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61296924 United States 01/17/2015 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to multiple sources - the remote viewer and the bucegi mountain contributors - the secret that the elite know is: Evolution is real BUT it isn't by chance. It is purposely guided by the force of the universe. The natural force of the universe activates certain dna strands at certain times. Nature intelligently guides the process of evolution. Couldn't get much info beyond those basics. How old humans are is irrelevant. We do matter in the universe. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65983829 United States 01/17/2015 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to multiple sources - the remote viewer and the bucegi mountain contributors - the secret that the elite know is: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61296924 Evolution is real BUT it isn't by chance. It is purposely guided by the force of the universe. The natural force of the universe activates certain dna strands at certain times. Nature intelligently guides the process of evolution. Couldn't get much info beyond those basics. How old humans are is irrelevant. We do matter in the universe. there is no such thing as evolution, there is zero evidence of one genome species evolving into another species. |
4thhorseman User ID: 67089348 United States 01/17/2015 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any "engraving" older than 6000 and some change on this planet is a lie. Quoting: sundayisNOTthesabbath You poor baby. Who did this to you? Common sense. If you truly believe you "evolved" from nothing as you are taught in your public schools, than life means nothing. You are meaningless. Worthless. An accident of nature. That is what satan wants you to think. You came from nothing. Nothing you do matters. Christians are idiots. Funny. Life comes from nothing = genius. Life comes from the Creator = madness. Who indeed is the poor baby... Who indeed is taught to be worthless... and you're a fool to believe in a copied life of Horus and Krishna.. You don't even know where your religion comes from.. SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
4thhorseman User ID: 67089348 United States 01/17/2015 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to multiple sources - the remote viewer and the bucegi mountain contributors - the secret that the elite know is: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61296924 Evolution is real BUT it isn't by chance. It is purposely guided by the force of the universe. The natural force of the universe activates certain dna strands at certain times. Nature intelligently guides the process of evolution. Couldn't get much info beyond those basics. How old humans are is irrelevant. We do matter in the universe. there is no such thing as evolution, there is zero evidence of one genome species evolving into another species. No but, read the book of Enoch and you might learn something.. SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
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Army-of-Souls (OP) User ID: 65126745 Netherlands 01/17/2015 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If people like to make this thread a war of the gods, ok, my 2 cents: "I" believe we're mixed something from this: [link to oi62.tinypic.com] (can't proof that): Nobility desires genetically engineered life, as that is their path of evolution. The “peasant body” tends to be sturdier, having a natural evolutionary path via “survival of the fittest” from the Neanderthal stock. The peasants desire natural processes and tend to be organic in their desires, as it is their path of evolution. Our planet also contains a mix of the two lines of descent, so there is a full range of expression of life. I'm thinking that a 'higher consciousness' that we can't grasp doesn't 'ditch' us when we die, because we're not waisted in my belief when we "die", but I don't believe in heaven either by just experiencing 10% of life (by not experiencing the other sex for example or being rich or poor and the actions through a lifetime as a result, you need to experience all aspects of life here before you can leave it for another form of life in my belief) so we start again(reincarnate) and will evolve over time. I don't exclude the fact that their might be 'own' choices for respawning in this cycle, that's unknown for me. Maybe there is free will to evolve, like we have free will here to choose to follow a certain path (inside the boundaries created by the ones in power), but only to an extent, if I didn't learn anything from this "experiment", I don't think I would have a choice to 'rise' to some higher level of existence, but if I did, I think I can, but Nature intelligently guides the process of evolution in this process, so I can't go faster than the system allows me to go faster. (all based on assumptions, can't proof anything of course) Why the unhappy part (like animals) before they die because of diseases or that we have to suffer: "I" think/believe that if you want to create total happiness without suffering, you would get some sort of box with all life (energy) in it in total silence, peacefully, no pain etc, but also no activity so everything(all) is equal as nothing. At the moment that imbalance is created, a movement is the result so we experience life with all dualities in it like pain/joy etc. because without pain, you wouldn't experience the value of joy like there is no light without darkness etc. movement/imbalance is key to experience something/anything in my opinion. No facts, because we're entering an area of something we can grasp from here, so of course everyone will differ in opinion and belief, I can't proof this and I think nobody can :) if tptb wouldn't stimulate us to fight eachother, work all day to feel exhausted, so we could connect with nature and live peacefully and realise love is the way, wouldn't more and more people solve many puzzles of life to make the conclusion we can live in harmony if we choose to do so? adding to my believe that it's not the planet that's flawed by design but the system we live in that makes it look flawed. So we are able to fix it if we were given a chance. If the answer is yes, we should find a way to disconnect from this system or overthrow it. But maybe we just have to witness it and it's part of an experience, who knows, but still not 'ditched' at the end :) We want to be balanced as much as we can in every aspect and when we succeed, we would have more peace, but in the end, we would experience less but it wouldn't matter because we would have experienced it before, so you start with all/nothing(no movement) and you'll end with all/nothing (balanced is no movement, unless you want to have the experience of experiencing at the present (the now), than you have to be somewhere in between, so higher balance-> more peace, lower balance by less movement> less piece but joy would be more intense because of the duality , joy would stand out. so on a scale from 0 to 10 when we talk about imbalance/movement, 0 would be nothing, 1 would be the majority, 2 would be more peace/less suffering but 9 would be perfect. 10 would be too much because that would be equal to 0, 100% balance= no movement=max peace, but also no experience because of that needed imbalance to be able to experience. you can also say, there is no sword with one side, there are always two sides or there will be no sword at all. you are 0 or 10 as used in the example above, so back in 'that box' of everything/nothing, no movement till you choose (or forced to, based on free will or not) to respawn , on whatever level of existence. So where is mankind going from here? Two choices are apparent, particularly if one looks at the goings-on in the world about them: Quoting: taken from an article1.A reinforcement of the Noble/Peasant system, by genetically engineering the peasant stock to be more “slave friendly” to the Nobility. Thank the “Gods” for Monsanto… literally! 2.An evolution of the peasants into an independent species, a species that is basically organic in nature, does not need nor desire bioengineering. Like its LM ancestors, works in rapport with the other life of the planet (and elsewhere, as peaceful explorers). Implementing of the first choice is simple enough, just “engineer” the food that limits the body and regulates the soul to encourage the system of rivalry and obedience, to get your good slaves. Also, reduce the population to manageable size, to go back to the good ‘ole days of a single plague to keep the peasants from revolting. The second choice is where many people are heading, the group seeking the evolution of the species. So how does one do this? Simple: make the ethical choice! What can I proof: NOTHING :) what about evolvement in time.. what were the lessons ? There is one necessity for third density. That necessity is self-awareness, or self-consciousness. In order to be capable of such, this chemical complex of body must be capable of the abstract thought. Thus, the fundamental necessity is the combination of rational and intuitive thinking. This was transitory in the second-density forms operating largely upon intuition which proved through practice to yield results. Quoting: from an articleThe third-density mind was capable of processing information in such a way as to think abstractly and in what could be termed “useless” ways, in the sense of survival. This is the primary requisite. There are other important ingredients: the necessity for a weaker physical vehicle to encourage the use of the mind, the development of the already present awareness of the social complex. These also being necessary: the further development of physical dexterity in the sense of the hand, as you call this portion of your body complex. "density ? people are always talking about the 4th and 5th dimension, wtf?" Therefore, we can conclude by observation that there are only three dimensions. Of course, minds are now racing, thinking this precludes 4D and 5D entities. Not the case. Is that label counting dimensions of motion, or the dimensional aspects of motion? Quoting: some articleDensity: “The state or quality of being dense; compactness; closely set or crowded condition.” The term “density” has been used in metaphysical context for centuries. In that context, it refers to a discrete grouping of relative complexity. Third density refers to the current level of complexity that our biological organisms exist in, which is the three dimensions of space. To understand the concept of density, keep in mind the reciprocal relation between space and time: it is like a seesaw, more time, less space. As consciousness begins to expand into the temporal dimensions, it appears to compress and become more dense, in a spatial sense. But the physical dimensions remain fixed, due to the coordinate space they exist in, so what happens is you get a significantly higher amount of “whatever” in the same amount of space. More stuff in the same space equals the physical concept of higher density. I can talk for hours about these things (if I had the time) without any fight at all, it's so useless to fight but it's so fun to speculate but only if you leave room for other toughts or respect their thoughts, even when you disagree. If others want to slam me down for 'what I think/believe', I can only say: look in the mirror. If I would attack someone who believes differently, I would be like Obama : "if you're not with us... you're AGAINST us" (sorry for this long wall of text, carbon dating is in my next comment) Last Edited by Jozo on 01/18/2015 07:34 AM |
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Army-of-Souls (OP) User ID: 65126745 Netherlands 01/17/2015 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I forgot the most important part after my wall of text, carbon dating in my opinion as showed in an article: It is interesting to note how the "ancient records" greatly differ in time scales from modern geologists. When examining the methods of long-term dating, I did discover that there is a cumulative, exponential error in geologic dating that relies on radioactive decay. Anything beyond the 5,000-year range of carbon dating may be drastically wrong, and the Earth may be much younger than ever conceived--by as much as a factor of 1,000:1. The 4.6 billion year age of the Earth, may be as little as 500 million, and mankind may have been present when dinosaurs walked the Earth, as actually shown etched in ancient Peruvian stone tablets. Also, recent fossil evidence in Texas is supporting this hypothesis--much to the objection of anthropologists--having found human footprints petrified in rock next to dinosaur tracks, as though the humans were hunting the dinosaurs. Originally thought a hoax, until they discovered the tracks continued under a large cliff, and when excavated, showed the same human/dinosaur prints. Quoting: authortaken from: [link to www.reciprocalsystem.com] Last Edited by Jozo on 01/17/2015 11:52 PM |
4thhorseman User ID: 67089348 United States 01/17/2015 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I forgot the most important part after my wall of text, carbon dating in my opinion as showed in an article: Quoting: Army-of-Souls It is interesting to note how the "ancient records" greatly differ in time scales from modern geologists. When examining the methods of long-term dating, I did discover that there is a cumulative, exponential error in geologic dating that relies on radioactive decay. Anything beyond the 5,000-year range of carbon dating may be drastically wrong, and the Earth may be much younger than ever conceived--by as much as a factor of 1,000:1. The 4.6 billion year age of the Earth, may be as little as 500 million, and mankind may have been present when dinosaurs walked the Earth, as actually shown etched in ancient Peruvian stone tablets. Also, recent fossil evidence in Texas is supporting this hypothesis--much to the objection of anthropologists--having found human footprints petrified in rock next to dinosaur tracks, as though the humans were hunting the dinosaurs. Originally thought a hoax, until they discovered the tracks continued under a large cliff, and when excavated, showed the same human/dinosaur prints. Quoting: authortaken from: [link to www.reciprocalsystem.com] yeah, I'm going to have to read that wall tomorrow when I can see straight again...lol it does look long right now.. SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
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