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Batty Koda (OP) User ID: 67023903 United States 01/20/2015 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not free energy because it requires the input of energy by the human manipulating the containers, etc, thus burning calories. Although a miniscule amount of caloric energy, it deems the process not "free energy." Physics 101 Quoting: filth All it requires is adding water... Which it would seem that the amount of electric that could be generated from a large scale model would be greater then that Love life, and condemn those who would restrict its freedom, for they are the ones who are in prison. |
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Jeffersons Blackberry User ID: 51105454 United States 01/20/2015 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You do understand the law of Conservation of energy ? And the difference between potential and kinetic ? First of all, he seems to hold the small cube above the surface during the demo. I would have to see this first hand. I think you've been fooled. “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”; Thomas Jefferson |
Batty Koda (OP) User ID: 67023903 United States 01/20/2015 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This shouldn't violate the law of thermodynamics because it is using an already existing outside force to create momentum right? Quoting: Batty Koda Thats ok for a small motor like that, but what sort of force would be needed to turn a major turbine? Okay well theres something to be said for how large it must be. The weight of the water is pushing the wheel. So its using atmospheric pressure to move the water and gravity to turn the wheel Love life, and condemn those who would restrict its freedom, for they are the ones who are in prison. |
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Batty Koda (OP) User ID: 67023903 United States 01/20/2015 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Clever ruse, he is concealing another pipe that is going around the back of his hand to the little box. Otherwise why would he need to keep his hand there and not construct it in a way to keep it going hands free? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66166890 That is a fair observation that I wondered myself. But atmospheric pressure is real and so is gravity. So wouldnt that work anyways? Love life, and condemn those who would restrict its freedom, for they are the ones who are in prison. |
Batty Koda (OP) User ID: 67023903 United States 01/20/2015 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Clever ruse, he is concealing another pipe that is going around the back of his hand to the little box. Otherwise why would he need to keep his hand there and not construct it in a way to keep it going hands free? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66166890 also what if the water was falling from a higher level the force generated when it hit the wheel would be even greater. Love life, and condemn those who would restrict its freedom, for they are the ones who are in prison. |
Batty Koda (OP) User ID: 67023903 United States 01/20/2015 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You do understand the law of Conservation of energy ? Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry And the difference between potential and kinetic ? First of all, he seems to hold the small cube above the surface during the demo. I would have to see this first hand. I think you've been fooled. That may be but think about it. Atmospheric pressure is real and would work this way... and if the water is falling from a high enough level it could easily turn the wheel. You could make it so high that you are maxing out the force of gravity couldnt you? Love life, and condemn those who would restrict its freedom, for they are the ones who are in prison. |
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Joe42 User ID: 61754891 United States 01/20/2015 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Clever ruse, he is concealing another pipe that is going around the back of his hand to the little box. Otherwise why would he need to keep his hand there and not construct it in a way to keep it going hands free? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66166890 This. His hand is concealing a tube. If this were real when he opened the small spigot some water would come out then air would rush into the spigot, the water level in the clear box would drop back into the large container (aren't you glad this signature isn't rediculously long) |
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Batty Koda (OP) User ID: 67023903 United States 01/20/2015 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In theory it is free but when you take into account the build, the delivery, the maintenance and labor then it stops being gratis. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66143722 Initially but once its built then it could last forever Love life, and condemn those who would restrict its freedom, for they are the ones who are in prison. |
Batty Koda (OP) User ID: 67023903 United States 01/20/2015 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Clever ruse, he is concealing another pipe that is going around the back of his hand to the little box. Otherwise why would he need to keep his hand there and not construct it in a way to keep it going hands free? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66166890 This. His hand is concealing a tube. If this were real when he opened the small spigot some water would come out then air would rush into the spigot, the water level in the clear box would drop back into the large container But not if the point where the air comes out is lower then where the air would be it would work like a vacuum actually so you are wrong. Love life, and condemn those who would restrict its freedom, for they are the ones who are in prison. |
Batty Koda (OP) User ID: 67023903 United States 01/20/2015 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: . 6444930 Will Not work as it is presented. There must be a Pump in the upper cube. If there is no pump the outlet pipe Would Suck Air Its simple physics. . Pressure is moving the water the outlet pipe would work as a vacuum as long as the pressure stayed above. Love life, and condemn those who would restrict its freedom, for they are the ones who are in prison. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46984117 United States 01/20/2015 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isn't using a free force like atmospheric pressure and gravity essentially creating a certain percentage of energy that is free? Quoting: Batty Koda no. the energy doesn't replenish itself, therefore it isn't free energy. that is like using the energy of a boulder that falls down a hill. it doesn't roll itself back up the hill to do it again. you simply used a form of energy naturally stored. you can call it natural resources. and so are gas, oil, coal, and nuclear power is a "natural resource" too but it's very efficient. you are eating up material. energy you get from the atmosphere, can be compared to energy you get from a river and hydroelectric dam, calling it "natural resources" and not "free energy". something will come up short somewhere else. natural forces replenish the supply, but there is a limit. |
Hard Eight User ID: 42616711 United States 01/20/2015 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Clever ruse, he is concealing another pipe that is going around the back of his hand to the little box. Otherwise why would he need to keep his hand there and not construct it in a way to keep it going hands free? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66166890 also what if the water was falling from a higher level the force generated when it hit the wheel would be even greater. I think those are called hydroelectric dams. Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
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Fafhrd User ID: 61790121 United States 01/20/2015 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As suggested above, his hand is doing the work by raising the container. That’s the thing about progress; all the word means is “continued movement in the same direction.” If the direction was a bad idea to start with, or if it’s passed the point at which it still made sense, continuing to trudge blindly onward into the gathering dark may not be the best idea in the world. Break out of that mental straitjacket, and the range of possible futures broadens out immeasurably. John Michael Greer |
Batty Koda (OP) User ID: 67023903 United States 01/20/2015 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Clever ruse, he is concealing another pipe that is going around the back of his hand to the little box. Otherwise why would he need to keep his hand there and not construct it in a way to keep it going hands free? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66166890 also what if the water was falling from a higher level the force generated when it hit the wheel would be even greater. I think those are called hydroelectric dams. Exactly!!! Hydrological dams require the use of flowing water... How does water flow on earth? Gravity... So instead of using gravity to make the water flow you use atmospheric pressure and walla Love life, and condemn those who would restrict its freedom, for they are the ones who are in prison. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67145965 United Kingdom 01/20/2015 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The water in the container is being replenished it is not being held there. Try it yourself, its easy to do with a glass in a sink. Once you raise the water above the water line it drops back to the level of the water in the sink. Water will always find its own level. Which is why hes probably got that strange green line around the beaker. Its fake dude. |
Fafhrd User ID: 61790121 United States 01/20/2015 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The suspect word is in bold above. That’s the thing about progress; all the word means is “continued movement in the same direction.” If the direction was a bad idea to start with, or if it’s passed the point at which it still made sense, continuing to trudge blindly onward into the gathering dark may not be the best idea in the world. Break out of that mental straitjacket, and the range of possible futures broadens out immeasurably. John Michael Greer |